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Sony Ericsson X10 Official Thread


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Posted by Hiron
serious text work?

Have you try to texting with an iPhone + your finger? It's faster than typing with X1 + stylus... And it's already accurate with that big icon...

X10 also had an additional queued predictive texts that is showing at the same time... Just watch X10 messaging hands-on videos that is posted by rog at se-first.com... You'll know why you don't need a stylus...

Having capacitive screens means that we can enable multitouch for rapid keyboard tapping (later at Android 2.0) so we can types much faster with 2 fingers... Increased response time and touch sensitivity is also a big plus

For capacitive screens, there is also special types of stylus that work, but you wont need it since working with your thumb is easier... You don't need to push on the screen like you do with resistive... On capacitive, you only need to touch, and that's why we don't need a stylus on big 4" capacitive screens

EDIT:
I had tried Satio in local SE-Store in my town... Resistive screen is a big issue for me, especially if you had use iPhone before... Sometimes I want to use only one hands without stylus but I can't do that when typing with Satio in portrait mode...


Hiron
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2009-11-17 15:00 ]



Posted by -16-
All technologies have their pros and cons. In my opinion a capacitive TS is the better solution for working with your finger. Works much easier. Text working features (like easy copy and paste) have also been improved, so you don't need a stylus anymore. Bur maybe you're right, that for you a stylus-friedly screen would be better. But for me it was the right decision by to use the capacitive screen.

Posted by anonymuser
Oh dear. Doministry's figured out that most other phones aren't based on the Xperia X1.

Posted by karlosperu


On 2009-11-17 11:04:04, sealover94 wrote:



on the team in black is not the camera for video call or I'm seeing wrong?




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[ This Message was edited by: giancito on 2009-11-17 14:54 ]


Posted by McKinley
You are wrong, there is a front camera of course but the black front fascia is hiding it well

Posted by Hiron
I see two holes on the left side of the phones. Stereo speakers?

EDIT: Oh, only the upper holes has a sound. So what is the holes on the bottom left of the phone? (I'm not talking about a lanyard holes on the bottom )


Hiron
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2009-11-17 15:22 ]


Posted by MyP910

On 2009-11-17 15:53:06, Hiron wrote:
serious text work?

Have you try to texting with an iPhone + your finger? It's faster than typing with X1 + stylus... And it's already accurate with that big icon...

X10 also had an additional queued predictive texts that is showing at the same time... Just watch X10 messaging hands-on videos that is posted by rog at se-first.com... You'll know why you don't need a stylus...

Having capacitive screens means that we can enable multitouch for rapid keyboard tapping (later at Android 2.0) so we can types much faster with 2 fingers... Increased response time and touch sensitivity is also a big plus

For capacitive screens, there is also special types of stylus that work, but you wont need it since working with your thumb is easier... You don't need to push on the screen like you do with resistive... On capacitive, you only need to touch, and that's why we don't need a stylus on big 4" capacitive screens

EDIT:
I had tried Satio in local SE-Store in my town... Resistive screen is a big issue for me, especially if you had use iPhone before... Sometimes I want to use only one hands without stylus but I can't do that when typing with Satio in portrait mode...


Hiron
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2009-11-17 15:00 ]



both systems (capacitive and resistive) have pros and cons.... I agree that, with big screen, capacitive screen is okay for texting.... but sometimes I do want to make sketch drawing. Actually I do make a lot of drawing (sketch) on my Xperia X1. here I think, the stylus is very useful.

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Posted by XPHCTOC

On 2009-11-17 16:13:14, Hiron wrote:
I see two holes on the left side of the phones. Stereo speakers?

EDIT: Oh, only the upper holes has a sound. So what is the holes on the bottom left of the phone? (I'm not talking about a lanyard holes on the bottom )


Hiron
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2009-11-17 15:22 ]


You can remove the battery cover thanks to this "hole".

Posted by se_dude
Insane cam quality. I am floored.

Posted by synn
Jesus, those are SOME amazing shots!
I hope the next Satio FW update brings similar levels of noise control to it as well.

Posted by bider
Another new videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V-FhVgaX84
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8aNp0JLJ88
[ This Message was edited by: bider on 2009-11-17 17:30 ]


Posted by sealover94
No stereo speakers.. i wish it has!But i don't know the use of this holes..
As for the text work..who ever have that in priority go and buy XPERIA X2..not this phone..
Browsing without zoom in/out by multitouch is very annoying!!! + - buttons cannot zoom in/out in a specific area you want so you have to do extra moves to do that !! Com'on SE you can do better!


And with 1ghz cpu the menu MUST have be QUICK....veeeery QUICK !! There is no excuse for delays or frames !I had SATIO for 2 days and i was dissapointed!I don't need fancy transition effects with tranceperent photos...just speed like iphone (600mhz).
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-17 17:58 ]


Posted by se_dude
Theres this thing called double tap to zoom. Sealover, go learn your basics first. then come and comment.

Posted by OffLineR
I started to use Opera Mini 5 Beta on my p1i lately and zooming is excellent on that. Made me love my phone again.

BTW, do you really need stereo speakers. How often do you really use that?

Posted by sealover94

On 2009-11-17 18:56:43, se_dude wrote:
Theres this thing called double tap to zoom. Sealover, go learn your basics first. then come and comment.


i know my basics se_dude.... So why don't you go and test an ON/OFF light switch with a dimmer switch to see the difference and then come and speak to me !


On 2009-11-17 18:59:50, OffLineR wrote:
I started to use Opera Mini 5 Beta on my p1i lately and zooming is excellent on that. Made me love my phone again.

BTW, do you really need stereo speakers. How often do you really use that?



I looove the quality stereo speakers of my phone (w995) having it fro 3 months now so why should i compromise with less in 6 months??Anyway.. that is not a priority for me..had to test it by myself just answering a question of @Hiron
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-17 18:06 ]


Posted by anders260
maybe this video have been posted before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm9gt7F91h4

Posted by OffLineR
I really want a white X10 but after watching these videos the black one looks great as well.
It is going to be very difficult to choose.

Posted by anders260
Black for me

Will this screen be good in sunlight?

Posted by moogoo
it is a TFT screen, so it should be fine in sunlight? my assumption anyway

Posted by anders260
hope so

X10 at WEB 2.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]SoTo&feature=autoshare_twitter

Posted by -16-
I never had a mobile with stereo speakers. But I never had a device with such a big screen, too. I think it's nice to watch videos on X10. Stereo speakers would be very comfortable for a good sound while watching videos.
But all in all it's just a nice to have feature.
[ This Message was edited by: -16- on 2009-11-17 19:19 ]


Posted by bider
Another video - for sure not posted earlier. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA53X7bkBAs

Posted by Ravager
The Italians seem to be interested about the phone

Posted by bider
I think it's just because they have a possibility to play with it for a while - I suppose that these videos are from the same italian press event. I'm sure that tomorrow we will see some more vedeos from Web 2.0 in NY.

Posted by OffLineR
http://www.expansys.com is collecting preorders


Posted by ron.jeremy

On 2009-11-17 20:17:44, -16- wrote:
I never had a mobile with stereo speakers. But I never had a device with such a big screen, too. I think it's nice to watch videos on X10. Stereo speakers would be very comfortable for a good sound while watching videos.
But all in all it's just a nice to have feature.
[ This Message was edited by: -16- on 2009-11-17 19:19 ]



Stereo speakers are just a gimmick, W995 haven't got a much louder tone than it's mono speakers siblings anyway.
I'm more affraid of the vibra, in such a large device, it's probably hard to detect imo?


Posted by brazzuka's
look guys appears that Sony Ericsson have made inroads optimizing the X10 Android phone for its 1GHz Snapdragon processor... not pay attention to the song in the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]-JUW1Q&feature=player_embedded
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 preview ENG hands-on

via: android hd blog




Posted by mediar
This video is posted a few pages before. The optimisation so far looks good, but there is still some work to be done.

Posted by Domecot
What the hell is going on? I am stunned and clue less!
Take a look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm9gt7F91h4
& compare it to this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA53X7bkBAs
The speed is uncomparable! On the first video it barely takes 1 second to open/load TimeScape while on the second it takes 3 seconds! The same thing is with MediaScape. Oh man I need an answer from SE’s officials.
Rikard, Mattias, Sumit please comment on how time it takes to load/open TimeScape and MediaScape?

Posted by doministry

On 2009-11-17 15:54:02, Boinng wrote:
Oh dear. Doministry's figured out that most other phones aren't based on the Xperia X1.



What a nice retarded comment

It's about the TS technology which was present on all past (and present) devices
incl. all Pseries I used, right? Not any specific device.

As for txt work: guys, if you work with sms that's fine.
But when using Word for instance you don't use predective txt,

and basically: when EDITING like selecting few letters etc. it's a hell with your fat finger
compared to stylus. Please, there's no comparison really,
believe me: I work in theatres for years and finger is cr..p in this situation.

But of course, my anger is not about convincing anybody that one should use stylus not finger,
or about pointing a "better" or "worse".

I talk about CHOICE here: somebody else decides for me what is better! So I have no choice!

So the perfect situation is to have finger friendly UI which CAN be operated by normal plastic stylus or anything you like.
That's my point.
And the reason I will stay away from - anyway great! - X10.

P.S. Doesn't HTC HD2 have the same screen?

P.S.2. X10 is a great device anyway and creates a lot of hype here.... Nice.

Posted by anders260
My guess is that the variance in start up time must come from either different SW or that the Apps are ready lying in the background
[ This Message was edited by: anders260 on 2009-11-17 20:47 ]


Posted by Domecot

On 2009-11-17 21:46:49, anders260 wrote:
My guess is that the variance in start up time must come from either different SW or that the Apps are ready lying in the background
[ This Message was edited by: anders260 on 2009-11-17 20:47 ]


I hope that is it. I though of that too but still something is bugging me
I am waiting an answer form SE's officials!

Posted by clobar

On 2009-11-17 21:22:54, brazzuka's wrote:
look guys appears that Sony Ericsson have made inroads optimizing the X10 Android phone for its 1GHz Snapdragon processor... not pay attention to the song in the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]-JUW1Q&feature=player_embedded
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 preview ENG hands-on

via: android hd blog


Looks like they updated the keyboard (got new skin and right and left arrow keys) and added a skin to the calendar app. Thank god they haven't removed the week view, like HTC does....

Posted by OffLineR

On 2009-11-17 21:52:58, Domecot wrote:

On 2009-11-17 21:46:49, anders260 wrote:
My guess is that the variance in start up time must come from either different SW or that the Apps are ready lying in the background
[ This Message was edited by: anders260 on 2009-11-17 20:47 ]


I hope that is it. I though of that too but still something is bugging me
I am waiting an answer form SE's officials!


They already gave the answer for that. For debugging purposes logs everything on the back ground which causes most of the lag.
[ This Message was edited by: OffLineR on 2009-11-18 06:13 ]


Posted by bider
Look at the speed of timescape - it looks like they are really working hard to make it smooth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvTpVYmfemE

Posted by sealover94

On 2009-11-18 10:39:55, bider wrote:
Look at the speed of timescape - it looks like they are really working hard to make it smooth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvTpVYmfemE



That's the speed i was talking about Nice video @bider

Posted by SE-Naz
That is really starting to look good now... Good find bider

Cheers
ENJOY

Posted by mediar
Yea, Timescape looks very smooth and nice. Mediascape is smooth too, but there's more work to be done on it. Maybe SE has to decrease the inertia's movement in the Timescape.

Edit - another thing I saw is that SE has changed the colour of the menu's highlight:

[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2009-11-18 10:28 ]


Posted by domipost
Initial Experience with the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10

Some of my experiences and pictures from the X10 after playing with it for a few hours yesterday









Posted by Tejstar
Nice pictures domipost. How does it compare to the Acer Liquid?

Posted by XPHCTOC

On 2009-11-18 10:39:55, bider wrote:
Look at the speed of timescape - it looks like they are really working hard to make it smooth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvTpVYmfemE


very nice video! I've noticed the build nr it is R1AA044.

Posted by chenmartin
Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 gets Android Eclair ( 2.0 ) and support 16 M colour

http://translate.google.com/t[....]d%2529%26utm_content%3DTwitter

Posted by McKinley
That's great news really
The new world order is here!

Posted by domipost

On 2009-11-18 11:59:29, Tejstar wrote:
Nice pictures domipost. How does it compare to the Acer Liquid?


The speed is about the same at this point, but mind you that both are still proto's.

The interface from X10 is much, much better, though. I totally love how timescape gives you a view of all your mails, texts, facebook updates, tweets, calls, taken photo's, played music and played vids in one Works pretty smooth too Only the infinity function in Mediascape is a bit slow still, but I expect that to be fixed in february when it goes on sale

Acer neoTouch and HTC HD2 are both faster at this point, but they where both retail units and the X10 was only a proto, so that could verry well change

Posted by sealover94

On 2009-11-18 13:33:36, chenmartin wrote:
Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 gets Android Eclair ( 2.0 ) and support 16 M colour

http://translate.google.com/t[....]d%2529%26utm_content%3DTwitter


GREAAAAAAAAAT NEWS!!!! Well done SE!!!!AT LAST !!!

That's why i insist to support this upgrate when i was getting attacked by some people here ...
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-18 13:24 ]


Posted by domipost
What I liked the most, is that they will be offering updates constantly through a period of 2 years that add nice new functionalities

Posted by McKinley
Sealover, finally peace in your SE soul


Posted by clobar

On 2009-11-18 14:21:50, domipost wrote:
What I liked the most, is that they will be offering updates constantly through a period of 2 years that add nice new functionalities



Why didn't they announce this earlier, instead of just implying that it might be upgradeable to 2.0 in the Q&A.
Seams kind of stupid.

Posted by domipost
I dunno, but that is wat SE The Netherlands said to us during an X10 event


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