Posted by Hobbs
I'm glad you still feel that way Tsepz.With you getting that N8 I was worried I was going to lose an Android loving buddy lol
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Thanks Hobbs, im glad to, its quite a relief when you realise you made the right decision, N8 is great no doubt about it, but man does it just feel outdated, everytime i pick up my X10 and unlock it its like a breath of fresh air, its all just so complete, fluid, consistant and all that blah blah lol, there's no way im leaving Android for Symbian3, if im one of the lucky 8, the N8 will be used as my camera, and will replace my K850.
X10 may not run the latest Android version but its still such a powerhouse of a phone, if only the Satio had been Android to, what a phone that would have been.
Posted by DevilHell
Finally I got 2.1!!!!!!! (my phone is Belgium region)...
Where is MS Exchange support in the default email? I don't mean the Moxier junk. I thought 2.1 comes with naive Exchange support!!!!!
Fonts and icons are way bigger than before. My screen feels smaller now.
Pattern unlock is redundant: I have to slide to unlock and then draw my pattern? Why can I just skip "slide to unlock" and use use the pattern drawing only?
Posted by Bonovox
www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso[....]e_specs_revealed-news-2079.php
Posted by Hobbs
My X10's successor will only come in June 2012 so I couldnt be bothered with the Anzu.
Posted by Hiron
Just checkin se product blog... rikard demoed multitouch in x10
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Sony Ericsson X12 a.k.a. Anzu looks cheap as hell.
Posted by Bonovox
Yes and why an 800 mhz processor
Posted by angryman
On 2010-11-18 00:54:47, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
Sony Ericsson X12 a.k.a. Anzu looks cheap as hell.
Cheap looking and feeling products seemed to have Worked for Samsung, so I guess SE might as well save a few $$ and do the same.
[ This Message was edited by: angryman on 2010-11-18 01:24 ]
Posted by Ricky D
That anzu device will supposedly have a gradient colour scheme like the X8 and the material looks very similar to the X8 unlike the rubberised effect that we see on the top-end
products.
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
On 2010-11-18 01:16:00, Bonovox wrote:
Yes and why an 800 mhz processor
Posted by Indiandawg
Frist of all I want to know how can I connect EDGE from X10 to MAC OSX through Bluetooth? no Wifi no USB.
Second. I have been using Sony Ericsson for a very very long time now. Not that I'm die hard fan of SE but I generally like the design and specs of SE smartphones. They both go really well together. It may not have all the specs but it's always right up there. SE has been making smartphones since a very long time. From P800 to Xperia just shows how many smartphones SE has made till now. Back in the days I have also used T68i which was no less as a smartphone in those days. Using WAP in T68i was excellent.
But now it seems all changed. The industry of cell phone market has changed so much. It's not like those days where it use to take 1 year for innovation. Now it's like every 3-6 months. There is so much of fragmentation. It is a good thing and a bad thing. Good because we can get features quick and not to wait for a long time like we did in the past. Bad because we get left out too at the same time if we use a phone model for 1 year which now seems outdated.
Do you guys really think SE will be able to catch up with such fragmentation? cause look at Samsung - coming out with Dual Core processor in New Galaxy S. Then there is HTC, Dell, LG. I mean there are other players are trying really hard to catch up such fragmentation. But honestly I don't see Sony Ericsson catching up anywhere. Lack of multitouch and 1.6 Android was the only complaint of X10 before and then the delay of update.
Now X12, X7 (SE Windows Phone), PSP Phone are the line up for 2011. If X12 comes out with 800mhz it's going to be another downfall for SE. While X7 and PSP Phone will talk when they get released.
My point is - Is it time to quit SE? I'm really happy with the phones of SE that I have used before and also love my X10i but I need features now. May be am thirsty but I need them. Like I do miss multitouch, wifi tether, apps to SD (I really miss this feature a lot), Adobe Flash and some small features which I can't think of right now. These features have nothing to do with games. I use my X10i for hardcore browsing and documents like excel and pdf. When I look back I feel I compromised lot of Good features that should have been on my phone cause I need them and they are not there which makes me feel, I should go for another company now. May be Apple or HTC?
But still there is a lot of time to buy a new phone. I really hope SE gets a phone which is upto the current market trends. At least with Android version. None of the SE phones have 2.2 Android. Think about it!
Posted by Hobbs
I ask myself the same question about the 800 mhz processor...why go backwards? makes no sense but lets wait and see what comes forth officially from SE and not some blog.
Posted by Ricky D
On 2010-11-18 02:38:17, Ricky D wrote:
That anzu device will supposedly have a gradient colour scheme like the X8 and the material looks very similar to the X8 unlike the rubberised effect that we see on the top-end
products.
i.e. Anzu/X12 is not the best phone to come from SE in 2011. Don't worry fruit will come.
@indiandawg root your X10 with superoneclick then you can install some form of apps2sd, wifi tether, bluetooth tether etc, multi-touch is coming too, officially. Your X10 will still be a worthy phone up until the middle of next year by which time we'll see SE's top gadget for 2011. Flash is the only thing I'm looking for a solution to but even then I'm not too bothered as the X10 is still a kick-ass phone.
Posted by Indiandawg
On 2010-11-18 05:52:04, Ricky D wrote:
On 2010-11-18 02:38:17, Ricky D wrote:
That anzu device will supposedly have a gradient colour scheme like the X8 and the material looks very similar to the X8 unlike the rubberised effect that we see on the top-end
products.
i.e. Anzu/X12 is not the best phone to come from SE in 2011. Don't worry fruit will come.
@indiandawg root your X10 with superoneclick then you can install some form of apps2sd, wifi tether, bluetooth tether etc, multi-touch is coming too, officially. Your X10 will still be a worthy phone up until the middle of next year by which time we'll see SE's top gadget for 2011. Flash is the only thing I'm looking for a solution to but even then I'm not too bothered as the X10 is still a kick-ass phone.
I was thinking about that to root X10. Need to browse around XDA so I can understand everything about rooting and it's benefits. No doubt X10 is a kick ass phone right when it had 1.6 android. I had a choice between iphone 4 and X10i and trust me 80% I was sure I want to buy X10i and I ended up buying it lol. Love it!!
Posted by Hobbs
Having the X10 has been anything but boring.Its been quite a ride up to now and the downwards part of the course is still to come.Once this phone gets opened up that's when we are all going to be smiing from ear to ear.At least Im going to be.
[ This Message was edited by: Hobbs on 2010-11-18 06:25 ]
Posted by AndyD777
On 2010-11-18 01:16:00, Bonovox wrote:
Yes and why an 800 mhz processor
Its probably more powerful than the CPU in the X10 due to the improvements made. Its also has a much more powerful GPU, Adreno 205 compared to the 200 that's in the X10. Smaller numbers don't always mean lower performance.
As a example.
http://smartphonebenchmarks.c[....]does-it-compare-to-other-gpus/
[ This Message was edited by: AndyD777 on 2010-11-18 08:47 ]
Posted by AndyD777
On 2010-11-18 05:18:11, Hobbs wrote:
I ask myself the same question about the 800 mhz processor...why go backwards? makes no sense but lets wait and see what comes forth officially from SE and not some blog.
As above
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2010-11-18 09:45:47, AndyD777 wrote:
On 2010-11-18 01:16:00, Bonovox wrote:
Yes and why an 800 mhz processor
Its probably more powerful than the CPU in the X10 due to the improvements made. Its also has a much more powerful GPU, Adreno 205 compared to the 200 that's in the X10. Smaller numbers don't always mean lower performance.
As a example.
http://smartphonebenchmarks.c[....]does-it-compare-to-other-gpus/
[ This Message was edited by: AndyD777 on 2010-11-18 08:47 ]
Exactly, its the same graphics accelerator as the DesireHD, same Scorpion applications processor, just underclocked to 800mhz. Its better suited for HD720p video than the 1st gen Snapdragon found in the NexusOne, Desire and X10, if Anzu has the same battery as X10 it will give great battery life as well, so allround performance boost with that CPU.
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Posted by Big_D
Sorry for being naive, but I been reading alot about "rooting" on this thread. What is it exactly and how advantageous would that be for my phone? Disadvantages?
Posted by Ricky D
Rooting is generally used as having access to the system files of the OS i.e.Android. This 'root access' allows certain functions and blocks to be implimented or bypassed e.g. 2.1 doesn't have native wifi tethering but with root access an extra installed app can access the system privilages and add in the functionality. Root access also means you can use certain specially apps to remove preinstalled apps (moxier is the prime deadweight example).
Manfuacturers don't give root access out of the box as it opens the door to inexperienced owners to potentially render their expensive new phone a fancy looking paperweight.
Rooting is not to ne confused with bootloader access. Access to the bootloader gives the ability to load custom ROMs e.g. maybe a plain 2.2 install or a heavily customised 2.1 with Flash back ported or the fabled multitouch drivers installed. Basically then everything is possible within the constraints of the hardware and the efforts of freelance/hobby developers (the xda guys are famed for their skills).
Hope that's clear. I know I can ramble a bit.
Posted by Hobbs
Thanks AndyD and Tsepz for educating us dummies on processors
Its good to know these things.
Big_D One of my main reasons for rooting is so I could install Typefresh and change my system fonts.I dont like DroidSans
[ This Message was edited by: Hobbs on 2010-11-18 17:18 ]
Posted by tai020381
If SE manages to make this processor run as fast or even faster than iphone speed, which is damn bloody fast, yet saves battery life, why not?? Lets hope they have the ability to do it ^^
Posted by Indiandawg
On 2010-11-18 17:21:16, Ricky D wrote:
Rooting is generally used as having access to the system files of the OS i.e.Android. This 'root access' allows certain functions and blocks to be implimented or bypassed e.g. 2.1 doesn't have native wifi tethering but with root access an extra installed app can access the system privilages and add in the functionality. Root access also means you can use certain specially apps to remove preinstalled apps (moxier is the prime deadweight example).
Manfuacturers don't give root access out of the box as it opens the door to inexperienced owners to potentially render their expensive new phone a fancy looking paperweight.
Rooting is not to ne confused with bootloader access. Access to the bootloader gives the ability to load custom ROMs e.g. maybe a plain 2.2 install or a heavily customised 2.1 with Flash back ported or the fabled multitouch drivers installed. Basically then everything is possible within the constraints of the hardware and the efforts of freelance/hobby developers (the xda guys are famed for their skills).
Hope that's clear. I know I can ramble a bit.
I got a question. Have you rooted your X10 and if yes how much difference do you notice when it comes to UI speed?
BTW Brilliant explanation. That really sums it up
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Also guys, if anybody knows how to connect EDGE from X10 to MAC OSX Via Bluetooth
Posted by Big_D
@Ricky D : thanks, I kinda understand the gist. I dunno if I want to do that though, cuz it'll might really screw up my phone. I like to tinkle with technology myself, but the kinda who gets it right after several try. Something like this seem risky, dun want to damage my xperia x10.
Posted by DevilHell
so 2.1 doesnt come with naive MS Exchange support? Am I stuck with Moxier mail?
Posted by rickster2kuk
On question on 2.1. The email client now displays emails with a red mark on the left hand side. I presumed this meant unread (like the green mark in 1.6) however unread emails are also displayed with a colour over the whole mail subject. So what does the red mark mean - or is this a quirk in 2.1?
Posted by Ricky D
@Indiandawg & @Big_D
I have rooted my X10 white v2.1 using the superoneclick method described here at the xda forums. The process is quite simple if you read the first post, it's all there. Basically you need to download the latest version then run the .bat file and press root when connecting your phone in USB Debugging mode.
In the actual process of rooting the phone the risks are quite minimal, you just need to figure out how to use the superoneclick client. Once I rooted I installed an app called 'super user permissions' or something like that which basically controls which apps can access the system files (this is for security I guess and is necessary), I then installed 'Titanium backup' which backs up apps (system apps and user installed apps). This is strongly advisable. At this point you have to be careful not to un-install apps which are clearly for use of the system e.g. don't uninstall the dialler or the messaging app or any of the settings or you could start to screw things up. I just uninstalled moxier, wisepilot, setup wizard (it starts everytime I start the phone!!) and quadrapop. I suppose you could also take out the Japanese, Korean and Chinese keyboards if you want, I didn't because I use them. Timescape I heard is quite integral so don't uninstall that. You get the picture.
I installed Barnicle tethering for wifi tethering, there is also 'wireless tether for root users' which does bluetooth tethering as well as wifi. Not really gone more adventurous than that.
Speed-wise, there are still lagging points but in general the phone is fast if I kill a few tasks. Faster than before but not sure if that's because of the 2.1 update or the fact I cleared crap out of the pre-installed apps.
Do a backup with the SE backup and restore app before you do anything and that way if you do screw up or make changes you don't know how to reverse you can reflash in SEUS and restore from the backup.
Posted by Big_D
Anyone here knows a good memo/note app that can Read and edit from import text files, edit it and save on SD?
I need one, since Xperia x10 doesn't seem to provide a note or memo pad... unless I'm wrong. I'm also still looking for a customizable dual/multi- clock that basically can be set a different time than the integral clock.
I still can't believe SE left these out when designing the phone. wouldn't most people want a multiple clock (not the same as what I wanted) and a memo/note app integrated into the phone for users. most phones does, especially smartphones, for people on the go and businesspeople, and old SE phones had, too, right?
To Ricky_D : Thanks for that info. Just wanna know if there will be anything wrong with rooting the phone? will anything malfunction or not work?
I do want to uninstall unwanted apps like Moxier and quadrapop.
Posted by Ricky D
@Big_D
I still have full functionality, in fact I have more with the options of adding in wireless tethering. Think of a glass wall in a library with doors that they're locked. This wall has no function except to stop you getting to a certain section of a library, you can see the books (system files) on the other side but cannot change them, remove them or add any new ones. Rooting is basically unlocking the doors to allow access to the books on the other side. If you really wanted to you can open the doors, remove the stuff that's taking up space (moxier and quadrapop) then lock them all up (unroot the phone) again.
I haven't experienced any malfunctioning. The only thing I know that has happened is early adopters experiencing a loop when trying to root, but if you follow the instructions you won't get this.
Posted by Hobbs
BigD I'm not encouraging you to root your phone but Id just like to say the first time doing a root procedure or flashing is terrifying.Then once you do it you realise it pretty straightforward.Its what you do afterwards is what could cause the problems.My first attemp at using Typefresh (used for changing fonts) was disatrous.Phone wouldn't bootup past logo.Learnt a big lesson.Take your time and read the instructions carefully.I had missed a Line.Rooting ain't essential.Itsjust a must for me because of the changing fonts.Also Barnacle Wifi Tether to tether with my netbook.
[ This Message was edited by: Hobbs on 2010-11-19 05:15 ]
Posted by Indiandawg
Thanks Ricky D and Hobbs.
I need Wifi tether and I think am going to root my phone. Need to take out moxier and several applications
Posted by Hobbs
Indiandawg
Just a heads up,I've never gotten Wifi Tether to work on the X10.It says there's a Kernel issue.Give it a try though and let me now if it works for you.
Barnacle Wifi Tether works great though.
[ This Message was edited by: Hobbs on 2010-11-19 06:21 ]
Posted by OffLineR
@Ricky D
Thanks for all the info.
They are very helpful
Posted by Indiandawg
@Hobbs Sure buddy. I'll get back to you on that.
Am using Z4root as I'm using MAC OSX so can't use superone click.
Also I want to know, what is the purpose of Market Widget? I mean it shows no info. When I click on the widget, it directs to market that's about it!
Posted by Indiandawg
Guys anybody knows how to uninstall stock apps after rooting?
I searched on XDA, there is an article of removing apps via Windows and am using MAC OSX
Posted by anders260
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835308
2.2 ROM AOSP soon ready
Posted by fjcarlsson
On 2010-11-18 22:29:51, rickster2kuk wrote:
On question on 2.1. The email client now displays emails with a red mark on the left hand side. I presumed this meant unread (like the green mark in 1.6) however unread emails are also displayed with a colour over the whole mail subject. So what does the red mark mean - or is this a quirk in 2.1?
If you have more than one email account on your phone the different accounts will be displayed with different colour. In the combined inbox you can then easily see which email address the mail was sent to. (In your account inbox all emails will have the same colour)
Posted by Big_D
@Ricky D and Hobbs : thanks, maybe I will try the root.
Posted by Ricky D
@Indiandawg
Install Titanium Backup by Joel Bourquard, you will need to install BusyBox by Stericson too. Then open Titanium Backup touch 'Backup-Restore' and touch the app you want to uninstall then touch 'Un-install !'. I suggest you back-up what you have first though. Good luck!
Posted by Indiandawg
On 2010-11-19 06:23:36, Hobbs wrote:
Indiandawg
Just a heads up,I've never gotten Wifi Tether to work on the X10.It says there's a Kernel issue.Give it a try though and let me now if it works for you.
Barnacle Wifi Tether works great though.
[ This Message was edited by: Hobbs on 2010-11-19 06:21 ]
Nop. It's not working. Kernel issue. The app looks good though.
Barnacle Wifi Tether works great.
Posted by Indiandawg
On 2010-11-19 14:26:36, Ricky D wrote:
@Indiandawg
Install Titanium Backup by Joel Bourquard, you will need to install BusyBox by Stericson too. Then open Titanium Backup touch 'Backup-Restore' and touch the app you want to uninstall then touch 'Un-install !'. I suggest you back-up what you have first though. Good luck!
Thanks Ricky D. I appreciate your help
Posted by rickster2kuk
If you have more than one email account on your phone the different accounts will be displayed with different colour. In the combined inbox you can then easily see which email address the mail was sent to. (In your account inbox all emails will have the same colour)
Thanks for that, much appreciated.
Anyone experience issues with bluetooth file transfer on 2.1. Can't get it to work now, can pair the phone but it won't connect. Just says connection failed.
Posted by Hobbs
Sorry bud.Bluetooth issues go right over my head.Don't ever use bluetooth anymore for anything.
Posted by mediar
Is it possible to use two or three memory cards with X10 ( or any android phone )? So when I capture HD videos, to be able to save them on a empty 8GB/16GB card, different than the regular one ( that doesn't have free space enough )? I know that's possible on A200 phones, because I use 2 m2 cards with my W910 and I swap them when it's needed ( 1GB + 2GB = 3GB at all ), but is it possible with Android phone?
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2010-11-20 10:48 ]
Posted by SKIBBE
Programs use the SD card for temp/install files not all but many, so if you change the SD card they will not work or will create the files again. leaving you not beeing able to acces savefiles in games/other programs you have installed
but that is just my theory
Posted by mediar
That's not a problem. I'll synchronize the system files at regular intervals as I do know with the two M2 cards. But will that be a problem for the Timescape/Mediascape/system?
Posted by Rookwise
Yes you can use more than one memory card. Just make sure the default folders are the same on both. Only problem you have is constantly turning the phone off, removing the battery cover and battery to swap the card over. End result is a very worn battery cover which creaks and doesn't lock properly.
Posted by Bonovox
And we all know
is the best at creaky battery covers 
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Ive done a load of sim swapping on my X10 and the battery cover is still perfectly fine.
This thing is solid, i learnt that when my lil 3yrld sister decided to throw it at the wall.