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Sony Ericsson X10 Official Thread


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Posted by sealover94

On 2009-11-13 13:15:43, synn wrote:

On 2009-11-13 13:05:35, sealover94 wrote:

There is STILL a major problem :

Are they going to provide an A2.0 update (which means better usage of hardware: 16m colors,multitouch, etc) or not ?




Sigh.
I'm 99% sure that there WILL be an Android 2.0 update for the X10 as soon as Google releases the source for manufacturers who use custom Android solutions. These conspiracy theories don't hold much water unless another manufacturer comes up with a 2.0 set that isn't a Google experience device.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Incidentally, there's something you should know. There are G1 users that are running Android 2.0 currently, although no official ROM was ever released. There are also G1s that are running motoBLUR.


Hmm , interesting ...


Posted by mediar
After watching this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEdbJ9bIyN8&feature=channel ( the one posted in the previous page ), I'm really impressed and astonished, but I have a question - where are the rest of the options in the camera ( such as WB, geotaging and the rest ) or how to reach them?

Posted by snoFlake
Not being helped by SE being so very "careful" with their language.

Saying:

* Will the X10 receive Android 2.0 update (for those who bought from the initial batches with Android 1.6) ?

The UX platform used for Xperia X10 will evolve to Android 2.0 over time


Source

Is very different from saying when Andoid 2.0 becomes available on "general release" the X10 will be updated. Which would of course include the SE special apps which would be lost possibly using a cooked ROM.

Posted by XPHCTOC

On 2009-11-13 12:55:04, Domecot wrote:

On 2009-11-13 12:20:28, McKinley wrote:
Looked very smooth in WVGA video recording.
I don't need to look elsewhere now. I'm determined to get this phone.

I agree with You. But the color choice is killing me! Dunno...

Killing me softly with this... phone, killing me softlyyyyyyyyyyy
I prefer the white one (it's very classy)

Posted by anders260
Hi Tibor,


X10 is very fast phone. Check http://www.youtube.com/user/SonyEricssonDev and see that it takes about 3 seconds to start/load game. Try it on any other phone and tell me how many seconds it will take. I found that some viewers of that video said that it is few times faster than on other phones.


Also I saw that there are some videos where X10 looks very slow but the reason is that people have very old frrmware and they are not allowed to show it since it is not finished. Also it is not only old firmware but it is developer firmware and it is slower since we are logging everything in Dev. firmware and it takes time to log every detail in background. On Sony Ericsson official web sites and videos you can see latest firmware and even that firmware is old and slow compared with firmware available today. And it will be even better when the X10 hits the market.


Don't worry you will feel the power of 1GHz processor when it comes to games, productivity applications...


Best Regards,

Amir


http://developer.sonyericsson[....]thread/50008?start=15&tstart=0
[ This Message was edited by: anders260 on 2009-11-13 13:29 ]


Posted by Nitro Fan

On 2009-11-11 12:08:38, synn wrote:

On 2009-11-11 10:29:26, Nitro Fan wrote:
and dont cripple the android SW with their own rubbish


Eh?

If anything, the SE additions have always enhanced the Core UI of the respective OS's, everytime they have customized one.


He ha you haven't used a lot of phones have you! take a look at the X1
[ This Message was edited by: Nitro Fan on 2009-11-13 13:59 ]


Posted by sealover94

On 2009-11-13 14:29:02, anders260 wrote:
Hi Tibor,


X10 is very fast phone. Check http://www.youtube.com/user/SonyEricssonDev and see that it takes about 3 seconds to start/load game. Try it on any other phone and tell me how many seconds it will take. I found that some viewers of that video said that it is few times faster than on other phones.


Also I saw that there are some videos where X10 looks very slow but the reason is that people have very old frrmware and they are not allowed to show it since it is not finished. Also it is not only old firmware but it is developer firmware and it is slower since we are logging everything in Dev. firmware and it takes time to log every detail in background. On Sony Ericsson official web sites and videos you can see latest firmware and even that firmware is old and slow compared with firmware available today. And it will be even better when the X10 hits the market.


Don't worry you will feel the power of 1GHz processor when it comes to games, productivity applications...


Best Regards,

Amir


http://developer.sonyericsson[....]thread/50008?start=15&tstart=0
[ This Message was edited by: anders260 on 2009-11-13 13:29 ]



Yeah... we want to feel the power of 1ghz in a multitouch 16m screen too Amir in A2.0 update if you want to feel the power of our money in your pocket !

Posted by encoded
will be a great follow up for my p990i

I'm thinking about getting the white edition ... but white reminds me at mac/apple and I don't love the mac/apple hype

Posted by juris15
from the official SE UK store Sony Ericsson Xperia™ X10 Expected launch: Feb , 10


Pre-Register - Expected launch: Feb , 10
Sony Ericsson Xperia™ X10



[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2009-11-13 14:26 ]


Posted by moogoo
great news!!! now what about the x10a??

Posted by S4k1s

On 2009-11-13 15:03:25, sealover94 wrote:

On 2009-11-13 14:29:02, anders260 wrote:
Hi Tibor,


X10 is very fast phone. Check http://www.youtube.com/user/SonyEricssonDev and see that it takes about 3 seconds to start/load game. Try it on any other phone and tell me how many seconds it will take. I found that some viewers of that video said that it is few times faster than on other phones.


Also I saw that there are some videos where X10 looks very slow but the reason is that people have very old frrmware and they are not allowed to show it since it is not finished. Also it is not only old firmware but it is developer firmware and it is slower since we are logging everything in Dev. firmware and it takes time to log every detail in background. On Sony Ericsson official web sites and videos you can see latest firmware and even that firmware is old and slow compared with firmware available today. And it will be even better when the X10 hits the market.


Don't worry you will feel the power of 1GHz processor when it comes to games, productivity applications...


Best Regards,

Amir


http://developer.sonyericsson[....]thread/50008?start=15&tstart=0
[ This Message was edited by: anders260 on 2009-11-13 13:29 ]



Yeah... we want to feel the power of 1ghz in a multitouch 16m screen too Amir in A2.0 update if you want to feel the power of our money in your pocket !


Can't you just stop?
The phone is just touch not multi-touch. If you don't like it then don't buy it. 44 pages in it is getting VERY annoying having to read your complaints all the time, even several times in every page.

* Will the X10 be able to have upgrades to future android version's i.e 2.0?. and also will the X10 screen support multitouch?

Re: X10 Android version and Multi touch


Hi,
Here are few answers from X10s globarl marketing manager

Will it have multi-touch in future updates?
Xperia X10 has a capacitive screen. It does not support multi-touch functionality at launch, but is considered for the future.

Will the X10 receive Android 2.0 update (for those who bought from the initial batches with Android 1.6) ?

The UX platform used for Xperia X10 will evolve to Android 2.0 over time.



Best Regards,

Amir
Source

Read that carefully and try to understand what is saying here.

The X10 won't magically get a A2.0 update with UX multi-touch and all, the UX platform will evolve over time. The X10 might not, but the UX will.

Having said that, the X10 has no hardware limitations that prevents it from running A2.0 (like some older Android phones) so over time we will probably get A2.0+UX on the X10.

Also have in mind that right now hasn't promised A2.0 for the X10 nor did they promise multi-touch, as you can see they only speak about the UX platform and not the handset.

Posted by OffLineR
I wonder what does multitouch offers that much?
I can get why the 65K limitation is annoying but I don't get multitouch at all.

I'm going to buy this phone whether it is going to have Android2.0 update or not. I know even if wont give us an upgrade, we'll find a way. It is like installing winamp 3.0 to P1i. Would you believe that when the phone released

Posted by se_love
All multitouch really offers is pinch to zoom and fancy gestures. Jesus effing Christ is this ridiculous, its like you guys can't be pleased with one of the strongest phones out there now bar screen color.

Posted by OffLineR
Double click is much more easier to use IMO.

Posted by goldenface

On 2009-11-13 15:25:50, juris15 wrote:
from the official SE UK store Sony Ericsson Xperia™ X10 Expected launch: Feb , 10


Pre-Register - Expected launch: Feb , 10
Sony Ericsson Xperia™ X10



[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2009-11-13 14:26 ]



Thanks. However, I'd like to know if the 'lustre white' version will also be launched at the same time or will that be reserved for a operator exclusive (probably vodagroan).

Posted by anonymuser
If you're not used to using a multi-touch phone on a daily basis, then it means nothing to you - or you imagine it's just about pinch-to-zoom and "fancy gestures" and can live without it.

If you do use multi-touch, you'll be frustrated by the X10, and probably already discounting it. It's that big a deal.

Posted by SE-Naz
Well to be fair I have a 3GS and hardly use the pinch zoom I prefer the double tap...



Posted by sealover94
@S4k1s can't YOU just stop? Go and buy the phone the first day that will be out ....
I wanna know more about a product in order to choose to spend or not my money on this ! Ok??

Now i 'm not a kid who wants to play games and use facebook...
I want some divx support there for movies without convert them to mp4... for long distance trips
And multitouch for zoom in-out photos/browsers etc ...
A big screen (already have that)
And a software that handles hardware better.... i dont care if android 1.6 limits colors... then go to 2.0...

You remind me a guy some posts before saying...

I don't need radio... i use handsfree
i dont' need camera ... i use my slr
hell.. i don't need a phone ... there are phonebooths everywhere !!

jeez !!!
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-13 16:55 ]


Posted by XPHCTOC

On 2009-11-13 17:37:53, Boinng wrote:
If you're not used to using a multi-touch phone on a daily basis, then it means nothing to you - or you imagine it's just about pinch-to-zoom and "fancy gestures" and can live without it.

If you do use multi-touch, you'll be frustrated by the X10, and probably already discounting it. It's that big a deal.


I have two multitouch computers pinch zooming is cool but that's not a groundbreaking feature. And I don't think that having this function on a phone is essential. Pinch zooming is a gadget... You can do exactly the same thing by double taping.

Posted by sealover94

On 2009-11-13 18:02:06, XPHCTOC wrote:

On 2009-11-13 17:37:53, Boinng wrote:
If you're not used to using a multi-touch phone on a daily basis, then it means nothing to you - or you imagine it's just about pinch-to-zoom and "fancy gestures" and can live without it.

If you do use multi-touch, you'll be frustrated by the X10, and probably already discounting it. It's that big a deal.


I have two multitouch computers pinch zooming is cool but that's not a groundbreaking feature. And I don't think that having this function on a phone is essential. Pinch zooming is a gadget... You can do exactly the same thing by double taping.


here it comes again....

I don't need radio... i use handsfree
i dont' need camera ... i use my slr
hell.. i don't need a phone ... there are phonebooths everywhere !!

jeez !!!


dont' need it doesn't mean x10 should not have it... multitouch screens is the future...16m colors is the future ... and the future is 2010...

that's why your computers have it !! for people want to use this new feature!!
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-13 17:15 ]


Posted by anonymuser

On 2009-11-13 17:48:37, SE-Naz wrote:
Well to be fair I have a 3GS and hardly use the pinch zoom I prefer the double tap...


You use the keyboard though, right? If you type at any sort of speed then you're probably using multi-touch every time. And I won't bother listing all the games and apps that would be impossible without it, I'd be here for weeks.

Posted by moogoo
pinch zoom is probably not that important on such a small device as double tap to zoom is probably more useful and practical. but as boinng points out, typing on the onscreen keyboard at any real speed definitely requires the use of multi-touch. otherwise it's some very, very careful timing or slow typing.

I for one don't really mind. it's a minor issue for me and I can slow down my typing speeds.

Posted by anonymuser

On 2009-11-13 18:02:06, XPHCTOC wrote:
I have two multitouch computers pinch zooming is cool but that's not a groundbreaking feature. And I don't think that having this function on a phone is essential. Pinch zooming is a gadget... You can do exactly the same thing by double taping.


With all due etc, multitouch on a computer is a gadget. Multitouch on a handheld touchscreen phone is a completely different experience, and a whole UI in and of itself.

Posted by se_love

On 2009-11-13 18:12:38, sealover94 wrote:

On 2009-11-13 18:02:06, XPHCTOC wrote:

On 2009-11-13 17:37:53, Boinng wrote:
If you're not used to using a multi-touch phone on a daily basis, then it means nothing to you - or you imagine it's just about pinch-to-zoom and "fancy gestures" and can live without it.

If you do use multi-touch, you'll be frustrated by the X10, and probably already discounting it. It's that big a deal.


I have two multitouch computers pinch zooming is cool but that's not a groundbreaking feature. And I don't think that having this function on a phone is essential. Pinch zooming is a gadget... You can do exactly the same thing by double taping.


here it comes again....

I don't need radio... i use handsfree
i dont' need camera ... i use my slr
hell.. i don't need a phone ... there are phonebooths everywhere !!

jeez !!!


dont' need it doesn't mean x10 should not have it... multitouch screens is the future...16m colors is the future ... and the future is 2010...

that's why your computers have it !! for people want to use this new feature!!
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-13 17:15 ]

If the future is over complicated bullshit like that then count me out. I can understand the complaint of the screen to an extent but come on multitouch is hardly needed. There is one reason why SE has stayed through the years and will continue to stay. The keep it simple and clean how an effing cellphone is supposed to be, gradually evolving the simple and clean into the modern simple and clean. You want your over confusing technological wizadry go to apple or Samsung or whatever and we'll be here happy with our simple and clean modern day wonders.

Posted by OffLineR
Future is communication, future is gathering communities.
is going to do that and we are going to love it

Posted by XPHCTOC

On 2009-11-13 18:12:38, sealover94 wrote:

On 2009-11-13 18:02:06, XPHCTOC wrote:

On 2009-11-13 17:37:53, Boinng wrote:
If you're not used to using a multi-touch phone on a daily basis, then it means nothing to you - or you imagine it's just about pinch-to-zoom and "fancy gestures" and can live without it.

If you do use multi-touch, you'll be frustrated by the X10, and probably already discounting it. It's that big a deal.


I have two multitouch computers pinch zooming is cool but that's not a groundbreaking feature. And I don't think that having this function on a phone is essential. Pinch zooming is a gadget... You can do exactly the same thing by double taping.


here it comes again....

I don't need radio... i use handsfree
i dont' need camera ... i use my slr
hell.. i don't need a phone ... there are phonebooths everywhere !!

jeez !!!


dont' need it doesn't mean x10 should not have it... multitouch screens is the future...16m colors is the future ... and the future is 2010...

that's why your computers have it !! for people want to use this new feature!!
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-13 17:15 ]



I was only talking of pinch zooming. Multitouch is essential for typing text on the screen in a very fast way. That's why I would like a quick upgrade to 2.0.
For me the principal improvement of 2.0 is multitouch typing (I repeat pinch zooming is an epiphenomenon)
[ This Message was edited by: XPHCTOC on 2009-11-13 17:36 ]



Posted by sealover94

On 2009-11-13 18:28:40, se_love wrote:

On 2009-11-13 18:12:38, sealover94 wrote:

On 2009-11-13 18:02:06, XPHCTOC wrote:

On 2009-11-13 17:37:53, Boinng wrote:
If you're not used to using a multi-touch phone on a daily basis, then it means nothing to you - or you imagine it's just about pinch-to-zoom and "fancy gestures" and can live without it.

If you do use multi-touch, you'll be frustrated by the X10, and probably already discounting it. It's that big a deal.


I have two multitouch computers pinch zooming is cool but that's not a groundbreaking feature. And I don't think that having this function on a phone is essential. Pinch zooming is a gadget... You can do exactly the same thing by double taping.



here it comes again....

I don't need radio... i use handsfree
i dont' need camera ... i use my slr
hell.. i don't need a phone ... there are phonebooths everywhere !!

jeez !!!


dont' need it doesn't mean x10 should not have it... multitouch screens is the future...16m colors is the future ... and the future is 2010...

that's why your computers have it !! for people want to use this new feature!!

If the future is over complicated bullshit like that then count me out. I can understand the complaint of the screen to an extent but come on multitouch is hardly needed. There is one reason why SE has stayed through the years and will continue to stay. The keep it simple and clean how an effing cellphone is supposed to be, gradually evolving the simple and clean into the modern simple and clean. You want your over confusing technological wizadry go to apple or Samsung or whatever and we'll be here happy with our simple and clean modern day wonders.


That is not true !! When p800 was out back in 2004 it was the "technological wizadry" epitome ... and SE was in 3rd position.... now 6th or 7th ?? help me out

p990 was "gradually evolving the simple and clean into the modern simple and clean" ???? You must be joking right?
(i speak as an owner of p990)
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-13 17:37 ]


Posted by anonymuser

On 2009-11-13 18:28:40, se_love wrote:
If the future is over complicated bullshit like that then count me out. I can understand the complaint of the screen to an extent but come on multitouch is hardly needed. There is one reason why SE has stayed through the years and will continue to stay. The keep it simple and clean how an effing cellphone is supposed to be, gradually evolving the simple and clean into the modern simple and clean. You want your over confusing technological wizadry go to apple or Samsung or whatever and we'll be here happy with our simple and clean modern day wonders.


What an absolute crock.

As their abysmal performance over the last few years proves beyond doubt, there is no reason why SE have stayed "through the years" other than the patience of its two parent companies and some pretty deep pockets, and actually every possibility that they may not last much longer at all.

That aside, to pretend that SE products are "simple and clean" while painting multitouch as "confusing technological wizardry" is just staggeringly, mind-numbingly stupid. Look at Satio, look at the X1, SE's two most recent smartphones - are they "gradually evolved" or "simple and clean"? Like hell they are. Two fudges of the highest order, with UI's that are part SE, part legacy OS, with a double click here and a single click there, here a stylus, there a finger - defend the phones themselves all you like but neither of those UIs is evolved or simple.

Meanwhile, the multitouch you're ignorantly slagging off for the simple reason that SE doesn't have it is actually exactly what you're trying to ascribe to SE - a simple, clean, flowing method of interacting with a touchscreen device. Apple understand that, Android understand that, and because I haven't completely lost faith in them I'm sure that SE understand that too (they just can't do it yet). But you? You're too busy defending the indefensible to have even half a clue...

Posted by synn
Yeah, Apple understood the importance of running more than one task at a time, right?

Oh wait...


Multi-touch for zooming is bullshit. Double tap works swell.
Multi-touch for gaming is bullshit. Get some proper buttons or get lost.
Multi-touch for typing fast, I can agree with.

Posted by ron.jeremy
Seriously, sealover, your such a lowlife.
Don't you see, we are sick and tired of your half empty glass ranting about the X10.
It might not be the P800 all over again, but beeing a SEMC device of late, it is a nice freaking change, and it brings alot to the table, wether it doesn't fullfill all your pathetic needs, we don't really care!!!
And don't bother sending me pm's again with threaths and bs, that's for little kids with no life!


Pretty much all the news from it's announcment, the X10 have actually improved it's specs.
Gyro, Video resolution, the amount of colours on the LCD
[ This Message was edited by: ron.jeremy on 2009-11-13 19:49 ]


Posted by my ninja
^ after poking and prodding SE, from consumers on their developers site.

mind you it isnt just seal, it was a team effort here. it was actually very easy to get the questions answered in the right forum. this phone is right on track as far as im concerned, im buying it, ive been waiting for a superior device and this is it, i cant wait for the reviews, the comparison b.w X10 and HD2! A1.6 v. WM6.5, and then another set b.w A2.0 v. WP7. this will be a good one. they are so close yet the choice of OS for me personally is android, it affords a cleaner overall os than wm yet retains the customizations that its famous for, and some others that are not iii.

Im proud of SE for at least understanding how to create chart topping phones. now the real test is how the follow it up! if it starts down the path of platform reuse for top teir devices instead of trickle down with the top being new and fresh then i dont know how much they can withstand from Samsung/HTC chomping away at smartphone sales. SE needs this, I cant wait to test one out.

the phone has met my expectations and of course there could be more, there always could but the services i want supported from the hardware, are. and the ones that arent can be enabled through software, so im not too worried ESPECIALLY seeing the difference b.w firmware. good to know dev units are logging everything, thats SOP for optimization, ill need to keep that in mind if it comes up again.

thanks for the links everyone!

Posted by anders260
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEdbJ9bIyN8&feature=channel

video is gone now?

Posted by my ninja
yea the picture review is gone, and the page with the video embed is gone as well, i am happy i saw it though!


Posted by sealover94
I didn't know how patient could i be with some people here and their personal attacks... keep going guys... i bet noone of you make money on your own...

@my ninja|@anders260 which one was that video ??
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-13 20:35 ]


Posted by anders260
@sealover94 the one from italy (hdblog.it)

Posted by my ninja
the video will be back soon ... hold for edit: why monday?

sorry about the quality.

if you want to see the video now search "yzarc" at dailymotion.
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2009-11-13 21:08 ]


Posted by mediar

On 2009-11-13 21:13:57, anders260 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEdbJ9bIyN8&feature=channel

video is gone now?


NO! I started downloading it, but I stopped because I thought it's useless, when I can watch it online... The two blog posts at http://www.hdblog.it/ for X10 are gone too.

the video will be back soon


I hope so.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2009-11-13 20:50 ]


Posted by bider
From HDblog.it YouTube channel: Video Xperia X10 will be back on this Monday. Sorry

Posted by volume100
Seal, give it a break! First it was the compass, then the screen, now it's multi-touch... Tell me which phone meets your demands...

...and then go and buy it.

You're ruining the topic with your endless complaints, mate.

Posted by koto

On 2009-11-13 19:06:59, synn wrote:
Multi-touch for typing fast, I can agree with.



Can you or Boinng please explain this in more detail. I do need fast typing and this would be my first phone without keyboard. I thought that capacitive screen is enough for fast typing why multitouch? Thanks.

Posted by frank2345babies
DoubLe tapping to zoom is nothing like as usable as pinch zooming. Double tapping can only take you to a certain level of zoom it's either zoomed in or not with pinch zooming a lot easierto adjust thelevel of zoom to what ever suits you best. It's kind of like comparing a regular light switch to a dimmer switch it does the job but just doesn't give you the same level of adjustment.

Multitouch is important for typing fast because alot of times when you are typing fast your finger doesn't actually lift off fully from the button you are pressing before your other finger presses the next button/key. multitouch allows both presses to be registered but without multitouch one or both presses will not berecognised. Meaning you will have to edit, adjust or redo whatever you have just typed.
[ This Message was edited by: frank2345babies on 2009-11-13 21:35 ]


Posted by volume100
Because when you're typing really fast individual presses overlap. That means that if you type 'AB' really fast chances are that you're going to press B before you manage to completely release A.
If the screen isn't multi-touch you have to type somewhat slower in order for the screen to register all of the presses.

Posted by sealover94


On 2009-11-13 22:33:14, frank2345babies wrote:
DoubLe tapping to zoom is nothing like as usable as pinch zooming. Double tapping can only take you to a certain level of zoom it's either zoomed in or not with pinch zooming a lot easierto adjust thelevel of zoom to what ever suits you best. It's kind of like comparing a regular light switch to a dimmer switch it does the job but just doesn't give you the same level of adjustment.

Multitouch is important for typing fast because alot of times when you are typing fast your finger doesn't actually lift off fully from the button you are pressing before your other finger presses the next button/key. multitouch allows both presses to be registered but without multitouch one or both presses will not berecognised. Meaning you will have to edit, adjust or redo whatever you have just typed.
[ This Message was edited by: frank2345babies on 2009-11-13 21:35 ]



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On 2009-11-13 22:01:02, volume100 wrote:
Seal, give it a break! First it was the compass, then the screen, now it's multi-touch... Tell me which phone meets your demands...

...and then go and buy it.

You're ruining the topic with your endless complaints, mate.



Excactly... first it was the compass... when i said that it would be a big mistake not to have one ... and finally X10 has it!!
Then was the colors of the screen when i was saying that if the hardware didn't support 16m colors this would be a mistake too....and so on till all the undifened issues will be defined for our own good !!

You and some other stuborn people here only attack us saying nothing here.. So go and get the phone and leave forum..
Even if the X10 has no compass/no 16m hardware/no multitouch/no memory at all.... still you post the same things till a next phone appeared to write the same for that too....So pleeeaaaaase... (that's the last time i respond to you..and the others)
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-13 21:42 ]


Posted by koto

On 2009-11-13 22:37:59, volume100 wrote:
Because when you're typing really fast individual presses overlap. That means that if you type 'AB' really fast chances are that you're going to press B before you manage to completely release A.
If the screen isn't multi-touch you have to type somewhat slower in order for the screen to register all of the presses.



I get it now. Thank you

Posted by volume100
You're flattering yourself waaay too much for saying that they implemented compass just because YOU sad it is going to be a mistake not having one. Same goes for the screen. You were just ignorant and decided to flame instead of doing some research and find real answers.

I'm not saying much because I'm here to read some useful info, not to post just for the sake of it...

BTW: you haven't answered my question... I'm waiting.

Posted by Supa_Fly

On 2009-11-13 19:06:59, synn wrote:
Yeah, Apple understood the importance of running more than one task at a time, right?

Oh wait...


Multi-touch for zooming is bullshit. Double tap works swell.
Multi-touch for gaming is bullshit. Get some proper buttons or get lost.
Multi-touch for typing fast, I can agree with.


1 - Double Tap works BUT in Safari for several sites like Esato's home page double-tap doesn't work to enlarge the posts on the right side much while in Portrait mode (it does in landscape). This is just smart rendering so multi-touch opposite pinch works well. You NEED to use it for 30days to understand that you're talking out your derriere.
2 - GAMING works perfectly.
some games you NEED to see on youtube or more so try for yourself:
Real Racing or Real Racing GTi.
3 - agreed, touch typing is paramount. This is used in physical keyboards, although the OS only takes the intial key used.

Posted by TJMonkey15
Multi-touch would be nice so you have options when it comes to browsing. You could zoom by double-tapping, or you could zoom by pinching. And as everyone else has been saying, it'd be great for using the virtual keyboard.

My fingers are crossed that they upgrade the X10 to Android 2.0 (along with the proprietary UI as well) sooner rather than later, but it looks great on 1.6 for now. The phone seems like a winner to me so far. Hopefully it only gets better by the time it gets released.

Posted by sealover94

On 2009-11-13 23:09:55, Prom1 wrote:

On 2009-11-13 19:06:59, synn wrote:
Yeah, Apple understood the importance of running more than one task at a time, right?

Oh wait...


Multi-touch for zooming is bullshit. Double tap works swell.
Multi-touch for gaming is bullshit. Get some proper buttons or get lost.
Multi-touch for typing fast, I can agree with.


1 - Double Tap works BUT in Safari for several sites like Esato's home page double-tap doesn't work to enlarge the posts on the right side much while in Portrait mode (it does in landscape). This is just smart rendering so multi-touch opposite pinch works well. You NEED to use it for 30days to understand that you're talking out your derriere.
2 - GAMING works perfectly.
some games you NEED to see on youtube or more so try for yourself:
Real Racing or Real Racing GTi.
3 - agreed, touch typing is paramount. This is used in physical keyboards, although the OS only takes the intial key used.



There is no need tryin to explain this to some stuborn guys here... It's like we re tryin to explain the advantages of TFT against CRT monitors to a 5 years old kid who wants that phone to chat on facebook....

Any technology that is out 2 years ago is A MUST HAVE for a high end phone today...and of course in 2010...
Multitouch/compass/1ghz cpu/16M colors are ESSENTIAL features for a 700 euros phone in q1 2010..!End of story!
For those who want to close their eyes and go buy the phone.. no need to be in this forum.. they can preregister in SE and get informed about the release date..SO SIMPLE!

Posted by clobar

On 2009-11-13 23:20:07, sealover94 wrote:
There is no need tryin to explain this to some stuborn guys here... It's like we re tryin to explain the advantages of TFT against CRT monitors to a 5 years old kid who wants that phone to chat on facebook....

Any technology that is out 2 years ago is A MUST HAVE for a high end phone today...and of course in 2010...
Multitouch/compass/1ghz cpu/16M colors are ESSENTIAL features for a 700 euros phone in q1 2010..!End of story!
For those who want to close their eyes and go buy the phone.. no need to be in this forum.. they can preregister in SE and get informed about the release date..SO SIMPLE!



Give me a break!

Do you get paid for every word you type or are there some other explanation for your constant nagging...

Posted by PakMan786
@sealover:
And because of YOUR pressure on SE they decided to develope something like the X10 right? keep on dreaming you wannabe insider.

Things that annoyed us and especially YOU:
no comapss -> there is comapss
no multi-touch -> there will be multi-touch
65K Color -> amir says: "our phone can support 16 million colors"

Things that are annoying us right now:
YOU AND ONLY YOU

for me and many more here this device keeps in getting the perfect fon we all have been waiting for PLUS ITS MADE BY

I don't know what your problem is, I cant understand why a "qualified grown-up" (as u pointed out in many comments) act like a hungry monkey throwing with stones (in this case: repetitive and stupid comments) at the audience. It seems to me that ur only concern is in gaining attention and hear comments like: " Sealover we would never have known these details abt x10 if we hadn't a commited user like YOU "

FOR GOD'S SAKE, PLZ STOP ACTING LIKE A 12 YEAR OLD KID PLZZ

PS: did I mention that X10 will be available in black and in white? ( CONFIRMED BY ME ). I think chose these color-variants bcs they knew that these were my favorite ones
[ This Message was edited by: PakMan786 on 2009-11-13 22:56 ]



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