Posted by SE-Naz
Well when the video starts the calender entries look the same and its the same person doing the demo...
unless he has upgraded the software on his... This is exactly the same proto with a software upgrade... im confident in saying they look like the same video to me...
Posted by my ninja
so complaining about the screen, is worse than all of the posts complaining about him complaining? way to have some perspective guys, i can guarantee that there are more posts asking him to quit than there are of him explaining his frustration. so having 6 ppl say that they dont want to hear it anymore is no nice different. its all annoying, at least hes providing links and information rather than merely using personal preference/past experience to justify telling him hes wrong.
what hes doing is more productive to the thread than just tellin him to back off.
@se_love with your new responsibilities i would think you would be more level headed towards the situation.
@seal its the same video bruh i posted the other day, that you linked below my post that someone uploaded to youtube, that youve linked again, its not faster. ps: the phone isnt slow, android isnt slow, UX is slow.
has SE made any news about which browser they will be using in the X10, i know that the old (android 1.6) webkit doesnt support HTML5 and that the new one included with 2.0 does, with websites like wave.google.com and other sites popping up (we've seen wave on the N900 as well as bittorrent) will we be able to take advantage of these services with the X10 eventually (or port the OS ourselves). I know that android is capable now at least, id just like to know if SE had plans to support in the first quarter after launch. but developing on 1.6 got them in the quandry now do you think that SE may wait on Flan (2.1) before they upgrade UX, as a means to allow for development time, or do they have to wait for the SDK (i think moto had a deal with google, ie google dictated what kind of phone they wanted and moto agreed b.c of their situation financially) so because of that relationship they had access to the SDK before it was released which is part of the reason we have 1.6 on the X10. thats not SE's fault so much as google's preference at the time.
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2009-11-09 17:08 ]
Posted by synn
but developing on 1.6 got them in the quandry now do you think that SE may wait on Flan (2.1) before they upgrade UX, as a means to allow for development time, or do they have to wait for the SDK (i think moto had a deal with google, ie google dictated what kind of phone they wanted and moto agreed b.c of their situation financially) so because of that relationship they had access to the SDK before it was released which is part of the reason we have 1.6 on the X10.
For the thousandth time, learn the difference between Google experience devices and custom Android ROMS.
Why do you think the motoDEXT is still running Android 1.6, even though Motorola has "Full access" to Android 2.0?
Logic: Use it, once in a while.
[ This Message was edited by: synn on 2009-11-09 17:25 ]
Posted by xenia
http://anathe-ma.livejournal.com/
1. Small lag during opening Media/Nimescape.
2. Screen 16m-very good.
3. No metal
Posted by yawdapaah
On 2009-11-09 18:41:16, xenia wrote:
http://anathe-ma.livejournal.com/
1. Small lag during opening Media/Nimescape.
2. Screen 16m-very good.
3. No metal
Where do you see 16m screen?
Posted by my ninja
On 2009-11-09 18:24:42, synn wrote:
but developing on 1.6 got them in the quandry now do you think that SE may wait on Flan (2.1) before they upgrade UX, as a means to allow for development time, or do they have to wait for the SDK (i think moto had a deal with google, ie google dictated what kind of phone they wanted and moto agreed b.c of their situation financially) so because of that relationship they had access to the SDK before it was released which is part of the reason we have 1.6 on the X10.
For the thousandth time, learn the difference between Google experience devices and custom Android ROMS.
Why do you think the motoDEXT is still running Android 1.6, even though Motorola has "Full access" to Android 2.0?
Logic: Use it, once in a while.
[ This Message was edited by: synn on 2009-11-09 17:25 ]
look here dont disparage me. the tone youve taken is one of condescension, i dont appreciate it. say what you have to say without being rude. the part of my post you quoted is basically what you were trying to correct. so it should have been obvious i understand the difference, but i dont know why that would discount the browser when the browser IS part of android, and not a google application like maps/gtalk/gmail etc ... so, the delineation youve made is inaccurate. even still, does that mean the X10 will NEVER see the new browser, was that the point of your post? I just want to know if, like the keyboard you could supplant the current browser, would it still work, does it use new APIs that wouldtn allow it to work in 1.6?
Posted by xenia
In comments from user inside post
Posted by sealover94
On 2009-11-09 18:41:16, xenia wrote:
http://anathe-ma.livejournal.com/
1. Small lag during opening Media/Nimescape.
2. Screen 16m-very good.
3. No metal
It's all plastic... ihave already confirmed that...
No info about a new screen... still 65k (wish for 16m)
@my_ninja : thanks
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-09 18:45 ]
Posted by volume100
On 2009-11-09 15:23:47, Boinng wrote:
On 2009-11-09 15:18:18, >500 wrote:
seriously sealover, i think i speak for most, if not all, those following this thread.
1. Sealover has a perfect right to post his opinion here, the same as you.
2. You have absolutely NO right to speak for anyone else here.
I say he speaks in my name when saying that.
Sealover, are you doing this on purpose now? Whats the point?
EDIT: Would it be too personal to ask you how old are you?
[ This Message was edited by: volume100 on 2009-11-09 19:39 ]
Posted by xenia
http://www.nomobile.ru/reviews/53620.html
Posted by moogoo
interesting review. I wonder if the specs he listed are all correct or just his speculation or misinformed by an SE employee.
It's interesting that he said it doesn't feel/look that great in person (google translation, so it might be wrong). I can't imagine it feeling that crappy considering all the "hands on" previews there have been.. no one has mentioned it feeling cheap as far as i know.
Posted by hydro-
Uch.... That review says the screen is 16Million.....
Posted by xenia
You wrong. He said it feels great))) maybe too light
Posted by untitled1
I think some of the specifications are wrong:
16m colors
1000 mAh battery
16GB sd-card included
those 3 things do not correspond with the official announcement.
Posted by sealover94
This russian review is totally wrong... many mistakes...
Nice photos though
@volume100 ... my first phone was ga628 back in university before the existance of this forum (esato.com) ... what's yours ??? So pleaaase
Posted by Legen
Does the review say anything bout audio quality? Google translate is producing gibberish. Anyone speak Russian?
Posted by untitled1
On 2009-11-09 21:57:06, Legen wrote:
Does the review say anything bout audio quality? Google translate is producing gibberish. Anyone speak Russian?
he says nothing about sound, he also hadn't the possibility to hold the mobile longer in his hands and didn't want to make a video of the media/timescape because it was lagging. so nothing new from this review.
another question: does the x10 has a light sensor?
Posted by sealover94
On 2009-11-09 21:57:06, Legen wrote:
Does the review say anything bout audio quality? Google translate is producing gibberish. Anyone speak Russian?
As i said x10 has only one speaker ...
The quality afaik is similar to C905...
Posted by johanlingon
On 2009-11-09 21:51:06, sealover94 wrote:
This russian review is totally wrong... many mistakes...
Nice photos though
@volume100 ... my first phone was ga628 back in university before the existance of this forum (esato.com) ... what's yours ??? So pleaaase
I like the fact that the black x10 doesn't have any front camera but the white one does^^,
Posted by goldenface
Doesn't seem to have an ambient light or a proximity sensor either, which you thought it would do with such a large screen although it's probably because it's a proto.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2009-11-09 22:52 ]
Posted by volume100
On 2009-11-09 21:51:06, sealover94 wrote:
This russian review is totally wrong... many mistakes...
Nice photos though
@volume100 ... my first phone was ga628 back in university before the existance of this forum (esato.com) ... what's yours ??? So pleaaase
It was a Telital something from year 2000.
It's just that I can't understand a grown man can be so persistent in proving his point...
Posted by sealover94
Take a look , and translate this
http://www.pestaola.gr/sony-e[....]x10-5-things-you-need-to-know/
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-10 00:08 ]
Posted by S4k1s
On 2009-11-09 23:56:24, sealover94 wrote:
Take a look , and translate this
http://www.pestaola.gr/sony-e[....]x10-5-things-you-need-to-know/
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-10 00:08 ]
Nothing new there, just a regular blogpost...
Το X10 έχει οθόνη ικανή για 65,536 έτσι ώστε να μην ανησυχείτε όταν θα δείχνετε τις ασπρόμαυρες φωτογραφίες
Sarcasm?
Εξοπλισμένο με capacitive screen και Android 1.6, το X10 θα έπρεπε να υποστηρίζει multi touch αλλά δυστυχώς δεν.
Really now? Isn't 1.6 just touch?
Όπως όλα τα σύγχρονα και high end smartphones, έτσι και το X10 υποστηρίζει hardware acceleration στα γραφικά και φυσικά παίζει με OpenGL 1.1 και Open GL 2.0. Όλα τα παιχνίδια που ξέρετε και αγαπάτε θα μπορούν να τρέξουν και στο X10
I believe Android 1.6 can't run Open GL 2.0.
Posted by synn
On 2009-11-09 19:01:20, my ninja wrote:
On 2009-11-09 18:24:42, synn wrote:
but developing on 1.6 got them in the quandry now do you think that SE may wait on Flan (2.1) before they upgrade UX, as a means to allow for development time, or do they have to wait for the SDK (i think moto had a deal with google, ie google dictated what kind of phone they wanted and moto agreed b.c of their situation financially) so because of that relationship they had access to the SDK before it was released which is part of the reason we have 1.6 on the X10.
For the thousandth time, learn the difference between Google experience devices and custom Android ROMS.
Why do you think the motoDEXT is still running Android 1.6, even though Motorola has "Full access" to Android 2.0?
Logic: Use it, once in a while.
[ This Message was edited by: synn on 2009-11-09 17:25 ]
look here dont disparage me. the tone youve taken is one of condescension, i dont appreciate it. say what you have to say without being rude. the part of my post you quoted is basically what you were trying to correct. so it should have been obvious i understand the difference, but i dont know why that would discount the browser when the browser IS part of android, and not a google application like maps/gtalk/gmail etc ... so, the delineation youve made is inaccurate. even still, does that mean the X10 will NEVER see the new browser, was that the point of your post? I just want to know if, like the keyboard you could supplant the current browser, would it still work, does it use new APIs that wouldtn allow it to work in 1.6?
Yeah, that tone comes after people repeatedly keep speculating even if the truth is right in front of their eyes.
The part I quoted was the one where you say "Developing 1.6 got them into this" and all that. You speak as if they had a choice between two versions and they chose the older one. The fact is, nobody that develops custom Android ROMs is anywhere close to being capable of announcing a 2.0 phone; simply because Google is currently tending to the Google experience phones. It has been said since the beginning of Android that the Goog-exp phones would ALWAYS get the updates first.
The amount of speculation that goes on in here makes the oil market look tame in comparison.
Posted by Legen
On 2009-11-09 22:03:48, untitled1 wrote:
On 2009-11-09 21:57:06, Legen wrote:
Does the review say anything bout audio quality? Google translate is producing gibberish. Anyone speak Russian?
he says nothing about sound, he also hadn't the possibility to hold the mobile longer in his hands and didn't want to make a video of the media/timescape because it was lagging. so nothing new from this review.
another question: does the x10 has a light sensor?
@untitled - thanx
@sealover - ment through head/ear phones. Speakers on phones are rarely any gud whether they're stereo or not. Thanx tho.
Is sound quality a hardware or software thing? Coz i have not read anything positive bout android in that respect(e.g the Hero - no equaliser even)
Posted by my ninja
someone may have to look it up but the QSD8250 may have a separate DSP.
Posted by S4k1s
On 2009-11-10 02:52:42, my ninja wrote:
someone may have to look it up but the QSD8250 may have a separate DSP.
Embedded 600MHz DSP.
The QSD8250™ and QSD8650™ are now shipping to customers worldwide... The two solutions feature a custom gigahertz microprocessor core paired with Qualcomm's sixth-generation DSP core running at 600 MHz for unsurpassed mobile performance delivering an instant-on and always-connected user experience.
Source 1 , 2
Posted by makebelieve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4zhwKkGC10
Posted by pavlov's_dog
I don't know if this can be answered but is there a way to change the theme in timescape and mediascape? As much as i love the concept the blue background is giving me a headache...I'm hoping for something like, well, plain black.
Posted by Ravager
Haha, feels like SE have a larger commercial budget, than phone development budget
Posted by doministry
Maybe I'm wrong,
but doesn't it look like white and black one are a bit different devices?
Posted by Ravager
On 2009-11-10 14:15:31, doministry wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong,
but doesn't it look like white and black one are a bit different devices?
It's the same, pause the video and you'll see... But of course the white one is glossy and the black, is not.
Posted by snoFlake
On 2009-11-10 14:08:08, Ravager wrote:
Haha, feels like SE have a larger commercial budget, than phone development budget
+1
Posted by makebelieve
HMMM....
http://mobile.mail.ru/reviews[....]icsson_Xperia_X10-prev.html#mp
Posted by sealover94
On 2009-11-10 14:08:08, Ravager wrote:
Haha, feels like SE have a larger commercial budget, than phone development budget
hahahaha +1
what ?? 700 euros ...??
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-10 16:27 ]
Posted by Ravager
what ?? 700 euros ...??
Bare in mind that when the P800 was released it cost up to 850 euros here in sweden
A flagship should cost a lot, but then the key behind all success is that you get what you pay for, so it better be awesome!
Posted by mediar
On 2009-11-10 17:19:32, makebelieve wrote:
HMMM....
http://mobile.mail.ru/reviews[....]icsson_Xperia_X10-prev.html#mp
That review looks good - there are quite a lot photos of the screen.
The UI looks good to me. Especially MediaScape's ( I think it has slightly changed since this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvsl5IBSZh0 ). The camera's interface looks good too, but I like Satio's more.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2009-11-10 19:01 ]
Posted by goldenface
Here's a nice little article regarding the X10.
link.
Posted by Legen
that article is...ummm...different
Posted by Domecot
On 2009-11-10 20:28:44, Legen wrote:
that article is...ummm...different
It's ... interesting, creative and amusing to me, though it's nothing we haven't heard before.
Posted by untitled1
On 2009-11-10 17:19:32, makebelieve wrote:
HMMM....
http://mobile.mail.ru/reviews[....]icsson_Xperia_X10-prev.html#mp
Очень понравилось качество экрана, уровень яркости. За счет такого разрешения картинка смотрится гладкой, нет никаких претензий. Очень хорошо прорисованы иконки, другие элементы, шрифты, интерфейс выглядит аккуратным, красивым. Над экраном находится датчик освещенности, фронтальная камера для видеофонии и датчик приближения.
"The quality of the screen, level of brightness is very good. Because of the high resolution pictures are looking clean/smooth, can't object to sth. The Icons are drawn sharp, other elements, fonts and interface are looking accurate, cute. Above the screen are: light sensor [hehe, yesss!], front cam and proximity sensor [what's that for??]"
Posted by Ravager
On 2009-11-10 20:45:10, untitled1 wrote:
On 2009-11-10 17:19:32, makebelieve wrote:
HMMM....
http://mobile.mail.ru/reviews[....]icsson_Xperia_X10-prev.html#mp
Очень понравилось качество экрана, уровень яркости. За счет такого разрешения картинка смотрится гладкой, нет никаких претензий. Очень хорошо прорисованы иконки, другие элементы, шрифты, интерфейс выглядит аккуратным, красивым. Над экраном находится датчик освещенности, фронтальная камера для видеофонии и датчик приближения.
"The quality of the screen, level of brightness is very good. Because of the high resolution pictures are looking clean/smooth, can't object to sth. The Icons are drawn sharp, other elements, fonts and interface are looking accurate, cute. Above the screen are: light sensor [hehe, yesss!], front cam and proximity sensor [what's that for??]"
Sounds very good, and the proximity sensor is for dimming the screen during calls...
Posted by untitled1
On 2009-11-10 21:25:08, Ravager wrote:
On 2009-11-10 20:45:10, untitled1 wrote:
On 2009-11-10 17:19:32, makebelieve wrote:
HMMM....
http://mobile.mail.ru/reviews[....]icsson_Xperia_X10-prev.html#mp
Очень понравилось качество экрана, уровень яркости. За счет такого разрешения картинка смотрится гладкой, нет никаких претензий. Очень хорошо прорисованы иконки, другие элементы, шрифты, интерфейс выглядит аккуратным, красивым. Над экраном находится датчик освещенности, фронтальная камера для видеофонии и датчик приближения.
"The quality of the screen, level of brightness is very good. Because of the high resolution pictures are looking clean/smooth, can't object to sth. The Icons are drawn sharp, other elements, fonts and interface are looking accurate, cute. Above the screen are: light sensor [hehe, yesss!], front cam and proximity sensor [what's that for??]"
Sounds very good, and the proximity sensor is for dimming the screen during calls...
cool! and when putting the x10 in a case or pocket!i think some nokias and blackberrys have such a feature...
Someone asked about sound quality before, he writes, that sound is really good the speaker has good quality and is a little bit more quiet than the n97 but it doesn't overmodulate.
He also writes that the phone or esp. the UI has lots of features that are not apperent but very usefull and nice. It's not a naked android system! and u can reinstall or turn every feature off or uninstall it not like on the motorola or samsung etc.
i love this phone more and more with each new detail about it
Posted by volume100
I think both reviews take to broad daylight some good features of the phone without mentioning hardware specs that are impressive by itself, although I'm sick of hearing how every phone compares to iPhone.
Also I didn't notice any complaints about the screen either although most of this topic covers nothing but the screen issues.
Posted by Ravager
On 2009-11-10 21:57:02, volume100 wrote:
I think both reviews take to broad daylight some good features of the phone without mentioning hardware specs that are impressive by itself, although I'm sick of hearing how every phone compares to iPhone.
Also I didn't notice any complaints about the screen either although most of this topic covers nothing but the screen issues.
Of course the screen is going to be good, Sony Ericsson got one chance left, would they really choose a bad screen? If this phone becomes a flop, the company is history, theoretically at least.
What if we have only seen prototypes of different screens and that's why they have different specs everywhere, not even the managers know the final product?
[ This Message was edited by: Ravager on 2009-11-10 21:12 ]
Posted by sealover94
Totally exposed camera lenses... | no metal(alluminum) parts at all... | back to single led flash..
and the colors are vivid?Are they blind or sth ??
The good resolution is the only + in this screen... for a 2010 1.6 Android phone.
Yeah...great review...they dont' even know the total memory support ....
Still waitin for a better review and videos of the 65k/no multitouch screen..
as i confiormed .. some days before[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-10 22:11 ]
Posted by Ravager
so hmm, who should i listen to, the one who speculate over bad photos or the guy who have held it in reel life? hmm...
And what i've heard it will have multitouch after the update to Android 2.0, and also with that release they will not have the limitations of the screen by the software. Therefore my theory is that they are going to have a better screen then the os can handle "limited to 65k" but after the upgrade we will see the real beauty.
Posted by untitled1
seal, you are really annoying: look on all of the screenshots and then think about "transparency" and "effects" the cards and the pictures on it are transparent and brighter consciously, maybe to demonstrate the power of OpenGL. If the display would really so bad as you try to show it with your ignorance and/or arrogance since thousands of your threads, the guy would write it. He also tells about other disadvantages of the phone and hopes that they become better in the final release, so why he doesn't mention the display and says:
"The quality of the screen, level of brightness is very good. Because of the high resolution pictures are looking clean/smooth, can't object to sth. The Icons are drawn sharp, other elements, fonts and interface are looking accurate, cute. Above the screen are: light sensor, front cam and proximity sensor"
you maybe know greek better than my english, but my native language is russian, and till now the guy has one of the best reviews, if not the best. if a good review in your eyes is when the tester says "the screen is terrible", ... lol.
so please stop this rubbish-posts, with no real content. efkaristo poli. [had ancient greek @school years ago]
Posted by sealover94
On 2009-11-10 23:21:54, Ravager wrote:
so hmm, who should i listen to, the one who speculate over bad photos or the guy who have held it in reel life? hmm...
And what i've heard it will have multitouch after the update to Android 2.0, and also with that release they will not have the limitations of the screen by the software. Therefore my theory is that they are going to have a better screen then the os can handle "limited to 65k" but after the upgrade we will see the real beauty.
You should listen to a better review from well-known and reliable websites such as gsm-arena and watch videos-photos with your own eyes.. These russian guys don't even know what's the memory support of the phone... why you would trust them ?
As for the rest of your post... well i really hope that YOU ARE RIGHT and have a retail package that includes a multitouch screen with 16M colors and adroid 2.0 . Then i will buy it too
On 2009-11-10 23:39:50, untitled1 wrote:
seal, you are really annoying: look on all of the screenshots and then think about "transparency" and "effects" the cards and the pictures on it are transparent and brighter consciously, maybe to demonstrate the power of OpenGL. If the display would really so bad as you try to show it with your ignorance and/or arrogance since thousands of your threads, the guy would write it. He also tells about other disadvantages of the phone and hopes that they become better in the final release, so why he doesn't mention the display and says:
"The quality of the screen, level of brightness is very good. Because of the high resolution pictures are looking clean/smooth, can't object to sth. The Icons are drawn sharp, other elements, fonts and interface are looking accurate, cute. Above the screen are: light sensor, front cam and proximity sensor"
you maybe know greek better than my english, but my native language is russian, and till now the guy has one of the best reviews, if not the best. if a good review in your eyes is when the tester says "the screen is terrible", ... lol.
so please stop this rubbish-posts, with no real content. efkaristo poli. [had ancient greek @school years ago]
The screen is clear ! YES i can see that and know that cause of the VERY GOOD RESOLUTION...
Your best review says : 32 gb support and 16gb in package which is WRONG...... so pleeeeaaaaase !!!
If you want to dream your perfect phone... well nothing stops you...
Even the N97 comparison is 16M colors and 32gb internal .... so pleeeaaase again !!
But i don't blame you!I blame the stupid marketing team of SE...
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-10 22:46 ]
Posted by McKinley
Give it a break now Seal!
We can only pray that Sony Ericsson end up making the right decision about the screen issue.
I know I have been ranting about the same stuff but absolutely nothing will help repeating it all over again.
You sound like a malfunction record now.
I do however appreciate you keep posting new photos of the X10 so keep it up
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2009-11-10 22:48 ]