Posted by tranced
Sorry if this has been posted before
Tutorial: Timescape and Mediascape applications
Posted by xenia
http://community.livejournal.com/sonyericsson/26034.html
live photos
Posted by yawdapaah
On 2009-11-04 14:11:15, Legen wrote:
On 2009-11-04 12:56:08, Deron wrote:
Motorola released the Droid a week after announcement...
HTC have today announced the HD2 and it's shipping immediately.
HTC can make even crappy winmo phones run well and look good using the same cpu as SE.
Imagine what kind of Android device the can produce based on what they did with the Hero months ago...
Watch this video... and tell me it doesn't look gorgeous...
[ This Message was edited by: Deron on 2009-11-04 11:57 ]
scary thought. HTC will prob announce something awesome soon for december release. Samsung will definately wana cramp sonyericsson's style(like they oways do). Anything to say to this badassmam?
At 1:45, there's a song called Fcuk you. Then at 1:54, it says Sony Ericsson. LOL
Posted by Legen
And apparently timescape and mediascape are applications. So they'll end up on the htc phones. Maybe even b4 X10 is released(X2 panel thing is on touch pro 2). Shame
Posted by S4k1s
On 2009-11-04 13:54:51, sealover94 wrote:
On 2009-11-04 13:50:08, se_love wrote:
On 2009-11-04 12:30:39, sealover94 wrote:
The biggest greek tech website says 16000 colors...
http://techblog.gr/mobile/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-482/
hahaha ma giati to les auto
So waiting for some iphone-htc-moto comparison now !~
Enough about the colors already. I can probably dig up the biggest [input random country here] tech website that says it has 256k/16m colors...
The units used were proto's and the info on different
sites contradict each other right now so just wait for final specs and stop this madness plz.
Even I am getting annoyed now ffs...
[ This Message was edited by: S4k1s on 2009-11-04 14:40 ]
Posted by doministry
Boinng
Anticipation which is already fading, in the face of equal or better devices that are coming to market much, much sooner. This the P990, X1, and (dare I say it) Satio all over again.
Anticipation which is already fading, in the face of equal or better devices that are coming to market much, much sooner. This the P990, X1, and (dare I say it) Satio all over again.
Blah blah blah.
There's always better device on the horizon and constantly whining guys like you
who just cannot admit they're favourite product is MUCH more flawed and behind but still
try to convince everybody that it's the best.
Additionally, X1 was the strongest WM device for a long time after market launch.
FALSE argument than. X1 is a completely different story than Pseries.
GTFO to iPhone forum man.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2009-11-04 15:35 ]
Posted by anders260
Hi
After being a loyal
fan for many years, (i have only had the P800 and P990 for the last 6-7 years), i had really high hopes for the X10, to be honest i think the x10 will be a success, but before i decide i will buy it the following issues most be clarified:
- Upgrades, the X10 needs to be able to upgrade to later Android builds
- Speed, the UX (timescape, mediascape) needs to be much quicker when launched ( there can't be no lagging)
- Multitouch, needs to be confirmed
These are my only concerns, if these are ok when they launch it i will buy it.
Anders
Posted by mediar
The final word about X10's screen - http://developer.sonyericsson.com/community/thread/50008
Posted by anonymuser
On 2009-11-04 16:33:03, doministry wrote:
Blah blah blah.
There's always better device on the horizon and constantly whining guys like you
who just cannot admit they're favourite product is MUCH more flawed and behind but still
try to convince everybody that it's the best.
Additionally, X1 was the strongest WM device for a long time after market launch.
FALSE argument than. X1 is a completely different story than Pseries.
GTFO to iPhone forum man.
Yes, I know you bought the X1
Posted by Arne Anka
A few more pictures here
Posted by shearbolt
I think SE could have released this phone much sooner if they used the standard Android OS. Getting the timescape and mediascape apps working is what is going to take time, hence 2010 release.
Would SE users be happy with this phone if it has the standard 2.0 Android version like the Droid?
Posted by sealover94
ok guys herer is the only way to prove what i'm saying for the screen in general (NOT ONLY THE COLORS)...
A TEST
HTC HERO SCREEN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSxGrjxuyEU
VS
XPERIA X10 SCREEN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYWEFG7iLVU
The camera used to record HERO is MUCH MUCH cheaper than the proffesional camera used by SE.Both running 1.6 Android, with xperia having a much better analysis and hero 65k colors..
Comments are yours....
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-04 17:57 ]
Posted by XPHCTOC
The light conditions are definitively not the same.
The first one is a finished product the second one a prototype.
edit: and we don't know what screen settings have been chosen on both products.
That's my comment.
@sealover: mh leme malakies twra...
[ This Message was edited by: XPHCTOC on 2009-11-04 17:37 ]
Posted by S4k1s
Which camera was used to record the Hero and which one was used to record the X10 and what were the lightning conditions on the both occasions and also back light of the screens?
Maybe you are right in the end but right now there is no way of telling.
Edit: The Hero is indeed a lot brighter than the X10 on those videos and the colors on the X10 video are a bit washed out
[ This Message was edited by: S4k1s on 2009-11-04 17:34 ]
Posted by ron.jeremy
If this was a site i was a mod on... i know i'd clean up this tread yesterday, it's beeing ruined by kids with repeated garbage imo.
To bad...
Posted by McKinley
Sealover, give us a break now ok?
Developer people have their words said, it will use 262k colour display so end of story.
Regarding the question if people would be happy with the regular Android 2.0 UI, HELL yes!
Posted by XPHCTOC
On 2009-11-04 18:40:25, ron.jeremy wrote:
If this was a site i was a mod on... i know i'd clean up this tread yesterday, it's beeing ruined by kids with repeated garbage imo.
To bad...
@ron.jeremy: I totally agree. I have tried to explain some things it was a vain attempt. I won't reply here.
@sealover: http://techblog.gr/mobile/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-482/ Mr Vlachakis who is not stubborn has already changed the X10 specs on his blog.
Posted by untitled1
sealover your posts are really annoying.
look at the hands on first picture and on the second - what do u see? on first picture the gamma of the hands is warm, while on the second it is cold. don't comapre pears with apples. Stop it finally if you have no idea of the matter.
btw: something is wrong with the colors here, the first photo is more blueish, the should rebuilt it with more colors:
sry for offtopic.
[ This Message was edited by: untitled1 on 2009-11-04 18:00 ]
Posted by sealover94
You don't knoW anyhing about photography and you are annoying too...
I could remove the post ... and let you speak for a phone that NOONE can think anything wrong about it... but let's try one more time to explain to you ....
No...no contrast...no warm up... warming up the X10 as you can see DOES NOT make the colors more vivid...
Maybe the light of the phone is low...maybe sth else but NOONE ...not me..not you... knows for sure...
I just make an assumption... like it or not its MY POINT OF VIEW... and it is all we have right now...!
@XPHCTOC : Poios sou eipe oti einai ilithios? Monos sou ta les monos sou ta ksanales.... prin eipes oti eimai egw pisw apo to site...
Egw apla dinw phrofories apo ekgyra sites eite autoi kanoun lathos eite oxi
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-04 18:12 ]
Posted by moogoo
SE has never disappointed me with screen quality... EVER! it has always been one of the best, if not THE best quality screens on the market. Even with lower spec'd screens, they are comparable or better than those with higher specs.
sealover, you've shared your point of view. WE ALL GOT IT. please refrain from posting more about your disappointment on the screen and colors until there is a release model available and demoed.
I for one am on the edge of my seat waiting for the X10. With the rumors that it will be compatible with android 2.0 (which to me seems like it means it will be upgradable), I'm happy. I don't really care if there is multi-touch because honestly, the pinching motions can get kind of annoying to do. At least this is from my experience with my itouch. I'd rather just double tap to zoom, which is what is implemented in android anyway.
I really like timescape and mediascape and im fully confident SE will optimize the speeds to satisfy even the most critical mobile user.
I suppose my only question would be battery life. There's no info yet on that and I'm curious how it will fair. SE's always had a great reputation for long battery life, which is one of the reasons I choose to stick by them. Hopefully the X10 can be used to its potential and not drain all the battery in say.. under an hour or two of watching videos, music and pictures.
Posted by se_love
Hmm from the looks of it, the black one is definitely a more rubberized smooth look. While the white one is definitely going for that glassy front and and a glossy back. While the black one does have an all glass/plastic front its definitely not as showing as the white one.
Posted by sealover94
And if you compare the 2 videos from youtube you will also CLEARLY see the AMAZING frame rating of XPERIA X10.... this is obvious too...
1Ghz vs 0.5 Ghz
Posted by captainsm
Ok sealover, we get it.
the first 10 posts was enough, let it go now. We'll see when the X10 is released how the screen performs.
Posted by sealover94
On 2009-11-04 19:18:46, captainsm wrote:
Ok sealover, we get it.
the first 10 posts was enough, let it go now. We'll see when the X10 is released how the screen performs.
in the two videos posted why you see only the negative .... look at the framerates too
Posted by doministry
On 2009-11-04 17:07:37, Boinng wrote:
On 2009-11-04 16:33:03, doministry wrote:
Blah blah blah.
There's always better device on the horizon and constantly whining guys like you
who just cannot admit they're favourite product is MUCH more flawed and behind but still
try to convince everybody that it's the best.
Additionally, X1 was the strongest WM device for a long time after market launch.
FALSE argument than. X1 is a completely different story than Pseries.
GTFO to iPhone forum man.
Yes, I know you bought the X1
Sure! And I know what I'm saying.
Posted by ron.jeremy
What are the differences from 1.6 (donut) to 2.0 (Eclair)?
We have the multitask, and bluethooth file transfer, what are other things, anyone know?
Posted by NightBlade
http://gizmodo.com/5383485/an[....]rst-look-fresh-face-sick-speed
Posted by mediar
How do we multitask in Android? Is there something like the "Events menu" in the normal SE phones?
Posted by bider
@sealover: Could you please stop disscussing the colour issue? We cannot say anything at the moment because the product is obviously unfinished. I am a photographer and the white balance and gamma settings are used to tweak and reproduce the best colours depending of the light where you are shooting. Look at the colour and the contrast of palms on each photo... Are you trying to reach 500 comments?
edit: I think that my monitor is not working correctly - I've made 4 photos, and on each the colours are different. strange...
[ This Message was edited by: bider on 2009-11-04 20:10 ]
Posted by sealover94
On 2009-11-04 20:33:30, bider wrote:
@sealover: Could you please stop disscussing the colour issue? We cannot say anything at the moment because the product is obviously unfinished. I am a photographer and the white balance and gamma settings are used to tweak and reproduce the best colours depending of the light where you are shooting. Look at the colour and the contrast of palms on each photo... Are you trying to reach 500 comments?
are you blind ??? that post was about 4 hours ago..... jeez
are you tryin to reach 500 comments ?? 
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-04 19:56 ]
Posted by XPHCTOC
Why android 1.6 and not 2.0?
Just read this article: http://androidandme.com/2009/[....]roid-2-0-we-deserve-an-answer/
and particularly this phrase: "I really hope I’m wrong on this, but it would appear Verizon and Motorola have some kind of exclusive deal with Google for Android 2.0."
That's exactly what I was thinking yesterday. Don't blame SE for everything!
Posted by sealover94
On 2009-11-04 20:59:16, XPHCTOC wrote:
Why android 1.6 and not 2.0?
Just read this article: http://androidandme.com/2009/[....]roid-2-0-we-deserve-an-answer/
and particularly this phrase: "I really hope I’m wrong on this, but it would appear Verizon and Motorola have some kind of exclusive deal with Google for Android 2.0."
That's exactly what I was thinking yesterday. Don't blame SE for everything!
and blame who ?? Moto and verizon who are smart enough to have this deal ???
Posted by ron.jeremy
Can someone please ban sealover94 right now!?!
I for one will noe ever contribute if this J/O is around in here, i shit you not.
Posted by anders260
Can't you just ignore him, it's ok to have other opinions and to be critical but to repeat everything again and again is quite irritating.
Posted by koto
Besides batery life I also wander how good texting will be (writting long mails, editing word documents, etc.).
I don't know why sealover iritates you so much. I have nothing against his posts. Let the man speaks freely. It does not affect the beauty of X10 if one really like it.
Posted by badassmam
Don't worry about Android 2.0, the X10 UI is very nice but its stupidly slow regardless of the 1Ghz processor so keep working at it
. The phone will speed up by release, Android 1.6 is good so chill. Give them some credit for what they have done on top of Android. The protos on 'basic' Android were very quick so it shows how demanding the UI is. No multi-touch is disappointing though.
Posted by Caspa
On 2009-11-04 20:18:03, ron.jeremy wrote:
What are the differences from 1.6 (donut) to 2.0 (Eclair)?
We have the multitask, and bluethooth file transfer, what are other things, anyone know?
• The whole system feels much faster, especially the browser. Apparently it renders about as fast as the 3GS's, though part of that could be down to the hardware
With Snapdragon and looking at the videos this seems to be what the X10 is doing with 1.6 speed wise...
• The browser also gets double-tap-to-zoom (some current ROMs already come with this)
Surely the X10 will have this if as it says in brackets, "some current ROMs already come with this...
• Facebook friends are integrated right into the contacts system
This is something that SE's Timescape seems to deal with (at least to some degree), not having it built into Android isnt neccessary as SE have it built in via their proprietry application...
• Voice control has been scattered through the whole system, and even gets its own dedicated dashboard
This sounds like something 2.0 does that the X10 wont have on release... How useful this is would be my comment though, cant say i'm a massive fan of voice control... Suppose we have to ask what the iPhone users think of the voice control they have with 3.0?
• There's an upgraded version of Google Maps, with layer support
Would be very nice to have this with Snapdragon, should run fast and smooth... So a definately WANT as it were...
• Native MS Exchange support
SE seem to have this sorted themselves, and from the BGR review of the DROID the native implementation doesnt seem all that great at the moment...
• A unified email inbox, for joining multiple accounts
This sounds like a useful feature for some... Personally it isnt as I have a work MS Exchange account and a couple of personal Gmail accounts. Android deals with Gmail in a specific native application so it isnt part of this unified inbox (as far as I am aware from what has been said on BGR)...
• A YouTube homescreen widget, which enables two-click uploads
With SE's 8.1MP camera taking decent videos (we hope), this is a definate WANT I would say (even though I have never uploaded a video to YouTube myself!)...
• A "Car Home" app offers larger shortcuts for functions you might need while driving, as well as easy access to voice control
Sounds like a useful feature, so a definate WANT... But my car has built in SatNav so again I aint bothered at all...
From the list above it doesnt sound like we are missing out on much, but closer inspection at http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.0-highlights.html (see below) does make it sound a lot better and therefore an upgrade is in itself a definate MUST for SE...
Contacts and accounts
* Multiple accounts can be added to a device for email and contact synchronization, including Exchange accounts. (Handset manufacturers can choose whether to include Exchange support in their devices.)
* Developers can create sync adapters that provide synchronization with additional data sources.
* Quick Contact for Android provides instant access to a contact's information and communication modes. For example, a user can tap a contact photo and select to call, SMS, or email the person. Other applications such as Email, Messaging, and Calendar can also reveal the Quick Contact widget when you touch a contact photo or status icon.
* Exchange support.
* Combined inbox to browse email from multiple accounts in one page.
Messaging
* Search functionality for all saved SMS and MMS messages.
* Auto delete the oldest messages in a conversation when a defined limit is reached.
Camera
* Built-in flash support
* Digital zoom
* Scene mode
* White balance
* Color effect
* Macro focus
Android virtual keyboard
* An improved keyboard layout to makes it easier to hit the correct characters and improve typing speed.
* The framework's multi-touch support ensures that key presses aren't missed while typing rapidly with two fingers.
* A smarter dictionary learns from word usage and automatically includes contact names as suggestions.
Browser
* Refreshed UI with actionable browser URL bar enables users to directly tap the address bar for instant searches and navigation.
* Bookmarks with web page thumbnails.
* Support for double-tap zoom.
* Support for HTML5:
o Database API support, for client-side databases using SQL.
o Application cache support, for offline applications.
o Geolocation API support, to provide location information about the device.
o tag support in fullscreen mode.
Calendar
* Agenda view provides infinite scrolling.
* Events indicate the attending status for each invitee.
* Invite new guests to events.
New Platform Technologies
Media Framework
Revamped graphics architecture for improved performance that enables better hardware acceleration.
Bluetooth
* Bluetooth 2.1
* New BT profiles: Object Push Profile (OPP) and Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)
New Framework APIs
Android 2.0 includes several new developer APIs. For an overview of new APIs, see the Android 2.0 version notes.
For a complete report of all API changes, see the API Differences Report.
What does everyone else think as I am a newbie when it comes to Android, but have been generally impressed by a colleagues HTC Hero...
EDIT: And as Badassman has pointed out, no multi-touch is a dissappointment - see comments relating to the Keyboard and typing in the overview provided by Google - this would be my main worry!
Also, apologies for the long post!
[ This Message was edited by: Caspa on 2009-11-04 23:43 ]
Posted by my ninja
russia: http://community.livejournal.com/sonyericsson/26034.html#cutid1
color seems fine, the contrast however ... my word thats bad.
still want that compass, and can see no reason why its NOT available. HOWEVER tmob 3g is super awesome!
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2009-11-04 23:42 ]
Posted by bider
Few photos that you haven't seen yet
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0004gcg7
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003yd2g
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/00042wcs
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003t3q3
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003wqwg
The last one is the best. You can clearly see that white is glossy and black is rubber. I think I'd go for the black one
Posted by my ninja
my post above was late, sorry about that, bider thanks for the new photos, they are HUGE!
pz mates.
ps, seal i feel your angst but everyone sees what your seeing, however they are going to wait for more final production units before you judge the screen. i would think that you would be lenient seeing the state of the software as well.
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2009-11-04 23:54 ]
Posted by sealover94
On 2009-11-05 00:52:06, my ninja wrote:
my post above was late, sorry about that, bider thanks for the new photos, they are HUGE!
pz mates.
ps, seal i feel your angst but everyone sees what your seeing, however they are going to wait for more final production units before you judge the screen. i would think that you would be lenient seeing the state of the software as well.
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2009-11-04 23:54 ]
i agree with that
Posted by Indiandawg
Good Job !! but long way to go Sony Ericsson..
Sleek and Trendy Design. Intro of new OS (Android). Amazing features sepcailly where you click on person's profile and you can acess messages,facebook,photos everything relating to it. Great Job Sony Ericsson.
But I really doubt this will sustain. HTC/Samsung are definately going to answer back with android 2.0 and not only with the android platform but they will also have answer to Sony Ericsson Mediascape too. So that means again Sony Ericsson losses out it's market because of Android 1.6. I'm not complaining about not having Android 2.0 but the matter of fact in today's market, Features and Technology makes the Top Smartphone.
Again I loved X10 and I think it's a beauty itself to have it but it's going to be hard for Sony Ericsson to get Non SE customers buy this phone.
Posted by moogoo
oh wow! seeing those photos makes me want to get the white one even more!!! it's just so beautiful.....
Posted by Caspa
On 2009-11-05 00:44:44, bider wrote:
Few photos that you haven't seen yet
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0004gcg7
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003yd2g
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/00042wcs
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003t3q3
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003wqwg
The last one is the best. You can clearly see that white is glossy and black is rubber. I think I'd go for the black one
Excellent, thanks Bider...
Few things... First off, I have to comment on Sealover's observations and do that via these photos... Yes, the screen does look a bit dodgy...
On this pic...
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/00042wcs
It looks very pixelated and you can see diagonal lines...
With regards to White or Black... Thats very tough... I was all set with white, but seeing that it is glossy makes me think... Glossy would mean its feel in the hand would be very different, even slightly slippery and more prone to mishaps perhaps???... It is so beautiful though, so beautiful, my precious!
I would love the black to be rubber a'la T68 back, that felt fantastic in the hand... Maybe they are simply playing with ideas on these protos?
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003t3q3
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003wqwg
Also, going back to my earlier post... What about the screen with respect to finger prints and therefore some sort of coating that the guy spoke about???
Finally, in this pic...
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003yd2g
Take a look at a number of things... First off the applications, so Voice Search, Sony Ericsson Sync, Gesture Builder, Office Suite, Wisepilot and the others you can see - are all these standard? Obviously we can see the SE ones like the sync, Quadrapop, PlayNow and the proto stuff like Debug Menu and Dev Tools...
What about the top right of the screen just below the service bar... Does that say the following;
CPU - 51%
MEM - 98% (246/251MB)
???
[ This Message was edited by: Caspa on 2009-11-05 00:24 ]
Posted by my ninja
I have to assume the pixelation is due to the res of the video, and not the device, in addition to the picture moving at an angle being captured by a digicam.
on that site we get a glimpse of the cam gui. they could stop being lazy and ask sony for some 4" OLED's ... which they have and so does samsung.
Posted by XPHCTOC
CPU - 51%
MEM - 98% (246/251MB)
They are maybe testing how much applications they can run in background at the same time with the mediascape or the timescape.
[ This Message was edited by: XPHCTOC on 2009-11-05 00:58 ]
Posted by sealover94
1. white look quite cheap in these photos (very nice quality photos though
) . I prefer BLACK !
2. black back is SEXY
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003t3q3
3. take a look at the big button ... blue lines... definetly no 16m colors...
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/0003x6ds
4. resolution = brilliant !!!
5.there is sth wrong with colors here... still confusing me..
http://pics.livejournal.com/dmitry_lazarev/pic/000418dq
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-05 01:03 ]
Posted by Caspa
I have been tempted away from the white and thats after thinking that this would be my first white phone... Definately gonna have to reserve judgement on colour until release and in the flesh viewing!!!
Only the white handset seems to be displaying that CPU and MEM info... There are some interesting icons in the service bar on the black handset in the photo of them side by side...
Posted by XPHCTOC
The video playback looks great
I'm starting to save money (50€ every week ) I want to play with the white one (I don't like the fingerprint coating on the black battery cover). I have had a black X1 a black w810, my first phone was a black motorola. It's time to change.
Posted by Supa_Fly
A little something ... a commercial break for laughs when you guys wake up.
