Sony Ericsson X10 Official Thread

Posted by anonymuser
I found the most prominent three-way test between the three phones you mentioned, the one that most people reading this will have seen, from one of the most in-depth Nexus One reviews published. It was easy to find, since it was the first one to come up on Google. I'm quite sure I can find more.

For the record, I've never said the X10 is history - it would have to exist on the market first before it could even earn that title - but let's not forget you're still reduced to scoring points off phones which are on the market now, and earning their makers money - the Nexus One that's been out for weeks, the Droid that dates back to November, the iPhone 3GS that's been out more than half a year and more than proved its point already - and the all conquering X10's out in January right? No, sorry, February? Oh, wait, March? An entire three months (if it's lucky) before the next version of the iPhone? It'd better get that schooling in quick...

Posted by ron.jeremy
The latest FW are a week or two old, and it's improved alot on the speed on the device.

Posted by synn
lol, coming from a man who has made several posts about the next gen iPhone being superior, this is quite amusing.

It'd be fun to watch boinng self destruct when the X10 is out and his final line of defense is broken.
This comedy writes itself.

Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-02-01 13:29:03, synn wrote:
lol, coming from a man who has made several posts about the next gen iPhone being superior, this is quite amusing.

It'd be fun to watch boinng self destruct when the X10 is out and his final line of defense is broken.

Que? Sometimes Synn, you're just kind of odd. I really don't know what the above means or where it's coming from, or indeed why you have to get quite so aggressive about every new SE phone, but I think you need to chillax.

For the record, I don't need a "final line of defense" because I'm not a tank commander, I'm just somebody who likes his iPhone and has a few opinions about SE, thanks. Know what new phone I'll probably get later this year? Yeah, it'll probably be the iPhone, because that'll be the one phone out this year that does everything my current phone does, at least as well as my current phone does it, and a lot more. The Nexus One and Droid can't do that, neither will the X10, neither will any other Android or SE handset. For me (and actually quite a lot of other people) the phones you're championing don't even beat the current 3GS, so yes, the next gen iPhone will be superior.

Even without the Apple glasses on, will the next iPhone be superior to the X10? Bearing in mind that the X10 was originally designed for release about a month ago, while Apple still have six months to hone their design (right down to their own chip hardware) and still be bang on target. What do you think?

This comedy writes itself.

Doesn't it just.

[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2010-02-01 13:02 ]

Posted by doministry
But truth is - let's see the real finished device first, the finished product,
before getting excited over fragmentary vidoes showing this and that.

I've seen many videos of this kind as all of you probably,
and often they don't say much on the device really.

I mean would be great to see X10 doing well.

Posted by doministry

On 2010-02-01 13:58:27, Boinng wrote:
Know what new phone I'll probably get later this year? Yeah, it'll probably be the iPhone, because that'll be the one phone out this year that does everything my current phone does, at least as well as my current phone does it, and a lot more. The Nexus One and Droid can't do that, neither will the X10, neither will any other Android or SE handset. For me (and actually quite a lot of other people) the phones you're championing don't even beat the current 3GS, so yes, the next gen iPhone will be superior.

How many times a day you repeat yourself this lie?
Drop in, I show you 10 things iCrap will never do while my SE does.

P.S. iPad is a perfect example of Apple philosophy,
which is = lie.

Posted by XPHCTOC

On 2010-02-01 14:00:26, doministry wrote:
But truth is - let's see the real finished device first, the finished product,
before getting excited over fragmentary vidoes showing this and that.

I've seen many videos of this kind as all of you probably,
and often they don't say much on the device really.

I mean would be great to see X10 doing well.

fragmentary videos? Pocketpc.ch has shown at least 30 minutes in depth video reviews. X10 is now very responsive.

Posted by doministry

On 2010-02-01 14:08:13, XPHCTOC wrote:

fragmentary videos? Pocketpc.ch has shown at least 30 minutes in depth video reviews. X10 is now very responsive.

Okay, my mistake, didn't see that.
My point is however - product and proto are a bit different story.

Posted by synn

On 2010-02-01 13:58:27, Boinng wrote:
I really don't know what the above means or where it's coming from

Why blame your lack of comprehension or coherence on me, bud?

On 2010-02-01 13:58:27, Boinng wrote:
or indeed why you have to get quite so aggressive about every new SE phone, but I think you need to chillax.

Coming from someone who hasn't made ONE constructive post in ages, that means very little.

For the record, I don't need a "final line of defense" because I'm not a tank commander

A stranger to the world of metaphors, you are. Ain't that a pity?

For the record, I don't need a "final line of defense" because I'm not a tank commander, I'm just somebody who likes his iPhone and has a few opinions about SE, thanks. Know what new phone I'll probably get later this year? Yeah, it'll probably be the iPhone, because that'll be the one phone out this year that does everything my current phone does, at least as well as my current phone does it, and a lot more. The Nexus One and Droid can't do that, neither will the X10, neither will any other Android or SE handset. For me (and actually quite a lot of other people) the phones you're championing don't even beat the current 3GS, so yes, the next gen iPhone will be superior.

Indeed, the fruit tinted glasses are on. For all of those phones do MORE. No point in trying to break it through your thick wall of denial, so I won't bother.

Bearing in mind that the X10 was originally designed for release about a month ago, while Apple still have six months to hone their design (right down to their own chip hardware) and still be bang on target. What do you think?

What do I think about the next iPhone?

Well, considering that they spent close to a decade finely honing the maxiPad and how it turned out to be a damp squib, the worst disappointment since Segway and the butt of jokes till kingdom come...

...not much.

Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-02-01 14:07:39, doministry wrote:

How many times a day you repeat yourself this lie?
Drop in, I show you 10 things iCrap will never do while my SE does.

Read what I've written again, carefully, and then look again at what you've said. I'm telling no lies, you're simply twisting my words to perpetuate a lie you like to tell yourself.

Can your SE do everything my current phone does, at least as well as my current phone does it? Let me save you some time - no, it can't.

Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-02-01 14:13:47, synn wrote:
Why blame your lack of comprehension or coherence on me, bud?

I can safely say that incoherence is your problem

Indeed, the fruit tinted glasses are on. For all of those phones do MORE. No point in trying to break it through your thick wall of denial, so I won't bother.

If doing MORE is all that matters then my HTC Tytn II from three years ago beats the X10 and every other Android phone to be released this year. Of course it's 2010 and just doing MORE doesn't cut it anymore - you have to actually do things well. With the Appstore behind it, even my lowly iPhone 3G does a lot of things very well indeed.

I'm so glad you feel that way about the iPad. I'm going to enjoy that

Posted by synn

If doing things WELL matters, then your iThingy can't even DO a lot of things its competitors do WELL.

But yeah, I'll give ya something: With the appstore behind it, it sure can fart better than most. Pun unintended, of course.

I'm so glad you feel that way about the iPad. I'm going to enjoy that

Gee, I hope it doesn't bring upon you enjoyment the way apple TV did to a lot of appletons. We don't wanna risk a cardiac arrest or anything, ya know...

Posted by doministry

Can your SE do everything my current phone does, at least as well as my current phone does it? Let me save you some time - no, it can't.

It can + much more.

Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-02-01 14:48:41, synn wrote:
If doing things WELL matters, then your iThingy can't even DO a lot of things its competitors do WELL.

Yeah, it can. Let's not get carried away.

But yeah, I'll give ya something: With the appstore behind it, it sure can fart better than most. Pun unintended, of course.

Oh no you didn't!? You made an ifart joke! That's completely destroyed my argument, the satisfaction of millions of iPhone users, the utterly genre-defining impact of the iPhone itself, and the billions the iPhone and the appstore have made for both developers and Apple.

Fart! Ha ha!

Gee, I hope it doesn't bring upon you enjoyment the way apple TV did to a lot of appletons. We don't wanna risk a cardiac arrest or anything, ya know...

"a damp squib, the worst disappointment since Segway and the butt of jokes till kingdom come" - yeah, you'll be hearing that one again

Posted by drinki
Another OT and ban for life for both of ya..oh wait

I'm not a mod. Keep it clean guys, we're not here to listen you guys satisfy your egos..

Posted by synn
Ask the fruitman to keep his fruit talk in the fruit forums. No one here's interested to hear how OMGWTFBBQLOLAWESOME his "Appstore" is and I'm just delivering the message.

Posted by DentyCracker
No, no no, I'm quite enjoying this little pissing match

Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-02-01 15:04:00, doministry wrote:

Can your SE do everything my current phone does, at least as well as my current phone does it? Let me save you some time - no, it can't.

It can + much more.

Well I thought that I was going to save you some time there, but apparently it turns out that your SE phone does have push notifications. And itunes built in. It must also have multitouch with pinch and zoom in the browser, photo album, and dozens of other third party apps. That'll be the SE phone with visual voicemail too, and spotlight search across the whole phone. Of course it goes without saying that your SE phone is every bit as quick as the iPhone to open and close intensive apps, and it has the best web browsing experience available in a handheld device, and access to over 100,000 apps from a single, easy to use catalogue. Right?

I mean, you wouldn't be wasting all our time, right?

Posted by synn

Yeah, it can. Let's not get carried away.

Denial. It's not a river in Egypt.
Say, how's the file download scene from mobile Safari going on? Free turn-by-turn? Reading an e-book and listening to Pandora? Using the stocks app and the effin' calculator?

It did all that and probably stole your lunch money too. Better check your pockets.

[quote

"a damp squib, the worst disappointment since Segway and the butt of jokes till kingdom come" - yeah, you'll be hearing that one again

[/quote]

Why wait? You can start off right now:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1928558

SE phone does have push notifications.

No, we have push email and proper multitasking for other things that need real time updates. It's a wonderful concept.

And itunes built in.

No we buy our music cheaper from Amazon.

It must also have multitouch with pinch and zoom in the browser, photo album, and dozens of other third party apps.

Not a day goes by when I don't miss multitouch. I mean, what use is proper bluetooth profiles, a file manager and a fully functional browser if you cant claw the screen with two fingers, right?

Of course it goes without saying that your SE phone is every bit as quick as the iPhone to open and close intensive apps

When you do one thing at a time, it's not that hard to be fast. Also, INTENSIVE apps lol.

the best web browsing experience available in a handheld device

Except for Flash, java, local file download... etc. etc. Nope, we're totally screwed there.

and access to over 100,000 apps from a single, easy to use catalogue.

OMG GUYS, JUPITER IS THE BEST PLANET IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM COZ IT'S THE BIGGEST AMIRITE???

Posted by Nitro Fan

On 2010-02-01 09:46:26, goldenface wrote:

On 2010-01-31 18:36:32, Nitro Fan wrote:
Last demo I saw it looked Fking slow not amazing to me.
Lets see it run with two or three hundred contacts before we get too carried away perhaps?

I guess if you can't give us the link to this recent demo, showing it working slow we'll just have to take your sacred word for it?

There are plenty of demos around showing it working lightning fast, but I guess if all you're intent on doing is being miserable and moaning like a bitch about things then your not going to notice them, right?

[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-02-01 10:22 ]

Sacred, Bitch, debate not insults please, we are supposed to be adults here are we not

I can only say what I have seen, and in all the demo's I have seen (And whilst we are at it, I made no reference too any recent demo goldenface,YOU DID! Do try to be accurate when insulting me please

) Timescape takes at least three seconds to load and in one demo 5 seconds with what appear to be a few contacts if that's acceptable to you fine, but it is far from acceptable to me.

BTW do try to remember this is a phone we are discussing, A phone that at present is STILL unavailable!

I am not smacking anyone's child here, I am just expressing an opinion on a mobile telephone! based upon my own observations, is that OK or is this supposed to be a place where

are failings are simply glossed over?

I would be happy to see a demo where Timescape runs fast with lots of contacts, show me one please that is all I am asking

to do, Just show us it working as it should, and providing the price is right I will be in the queue to buy it but I will never applaud

just for saying it will produce something I have been burned by them in the past!

[ This Message was edited by: Nitro Fan on 2010-02-01 15:46 ]

Posted by Ricky D
Syn, Boinng

Let's just settle it.

Both of you list what advantages your phone has over the other, bullet each point and keep it short, and we'll see where we stand.

Straight shoot off, who's the bigger in the trousers, my grandma and your grandma blah blah blah.

Posted by synn
You get it all wrong.

I don't go into Apple forums and start to describe how much more awesome my phone is. An iPhone thread is an iPhone thread and that's that.

I expect others to show the same amount of common sense, but alas...

Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-02-01 16:35:57, synn wrote:
You get it all wrong.

Everyone else always does, don't they synn?

Posted by Nitro Fan

On 2010-02-01 16:22:46, Ricky D wrote:
Syn, Boinng

Let's just settle it.

Both of you list what advantages your phone has over the other, bullet each point and keep it short, and we'll see where we stand.

Straight shoot off, who's the bigger in the trousers, my grandma and your grandma blah blah blah.

I do not want to take sides but I think Synn has already summed the argument up perfectly

"It'd be fun to watch boinng self destruct when the X10 is out"

When we can actually buy the X10 we will all be able to make up our own minds, but until then surely Boinng MUST have full bragging rights as he has his phone in his hand NOW!

[ This Message was edited by: Nitro Fan on 2010-02-01 15:52 ]

Posted by synn
Er... All the things I said can be done are with the phone I have right NOW.

If the X10 is not out, then you leave that thread be until it's out until you start comparing. That is again, basic common sense.

Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-02-01 17:31:18, synn wrote:
Er... All the things I said can be done are with the phone I have right NOW.

So just to confirm, your posts today in the X10 thread haven't actually been anything to do with the X10?

If the X10 is not out, then you leave that thread be until it's out until you start comparing. That is again, basic common sense.

Yeah, trying to make comparisons to the X10 right now would be pretty dumb. Sorry, what was that you said earlier? The reason I came into this thread?

synn wrote
I mean, every test out there shows that the Nexus One is faster than the Droid and almost all of them show it's faster than the iPhone and here's our X10, called "History" by some scholars here, kicking it's rounded little ass.

Yeah, pretty dumb.

[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2010-02-01 16:46 ]

Posted by synn
Just to confirm, I made a post about videos that exist on the internet that shows that the Nexus One is faster at browsing than the iPhone and the X10 is in turn, faster than that.

YOU, then rushed in with OMG LOOK AT MY 578344374904634 APPS GUYS! posts for the umpteenth time.

It's obvious you have less than zero interest in the X10, let alone a desire to buy it. Then why the hell do you return to this thread time and again?

Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-02-01 17:43:41, synn wrote:
Just to confirm, I made a post about videos that exist on the internet that shows that the Nexus One is faster at browsing than the iPhone and the X10 is in turn, faster than that.

YOU, then rushed in with OMG LOOK AT MY 578344374904634 APPS GUYS! posts for the umpteenth time.

No I didn't. Anyone reading the thread without their hate-goggles on can see that.

It's obvious you have less than zero interest in the X10, let alone a desire to buy it. Then why the hell do you return to this thread time and again?

I have plenty of interest in the X10, and SE's future. I don't have to justify anything more to you.

Posted by doministry
@Boinng

Please. Stop trashing the forum.

You have all rights to love the device you use
and be happy with it as we all.

But this is SE X10 forum.
Plus those iPhone lies don't make any good.

Posted by synn
Nice edit.

I the comparison I talked about was very real and it actually exists on the internet for people to see. The X10 WAS faster than the Nexus one. Tests done by people who have both phones in hand. Again, the Nexus One was faster than your precious and the Milestone according to several others who have all three phones. Just go to engadget, check their Nexus One review, scroll down to their comments and you'll get the links.

The comparisons YOU make are all hypothetical. Things about release dates, about how the next iPhone being superior... Anyone with a three digit IQ score would understand the difference.

I have plenty of interest in the X10, and SE's future.

Bwahahaha ok. If you say so.

Posted by Caspa
I envy you guys, wish I had as much time on my hands as you do.

Posted by titus1

On 2010-02-01 17:59:42, doministry wrote:
@Boinng

Please. Stop trashing the forum.

You have all rights to love the device you use
and be happy with it as we all.

But this is SE X10 forum.
Plus those iPhone lies don't make any good.

Yup..trasher. Boinng and Nitro fan that is. disgruntled SE fan. Why can't you just moved on guys?

Posted by MyP910

On 2010-02-01 15:59:23, Nitro Fan wrote:

Timescape takes at least three seconds to load and in one demo 5 seconds with what appear to be a few contacts if that's acceptable to you fine, but it is far from acceptable to me.

could you provide link to prove this ?

Posted by glownlow

On 2010-02-01 03:02:58, >500 wrote:

@saka
sorry, but 'so many devices'? What are you smoking? The only snapdragon android phone out at the moment is the nexus one. And the underclocked Acer liquid.

Dont talk nonsense!

the only snapdragon on the market is nexus one? wow maybe i should return my LG expo as i was told it was running a snapdragon as well.. same as all HD2 owners...and Toshiba TG01 owners.. and ACER liquid owners..(even if it is underclocked) ...go smoke another one urself bud

[ This Message was edited by: glownlow on 2010-02-02 01:47 ]

Posted by synn
Dude, he said Snapdragon ANDROID phone. Your expo, the HD2 and TG01 are all WinMo machines.

Posted by my ninja
i read this thread everyday ... but man! its gotta suck trynna get info outta this place. i went ahead and got a n900 before christmas couldnt be more satisfied right now. im still patiently waiting for the sexx but ... wow, hop off the knob for second take a deep breath. get the phone or not, this over analysis is unecessary. i dunno you all could be having a blast doing it, but still think of the children, wont somebody please think of the children!

Posted by Nitro Fan

On 2010-02-02 01:02:38, titus1 wrote:

Yup..trasher. Boinng and Nitro fan that is. disgruntled SE fan. Why can't you just moved on guys?

2008 you newbies really do think you are something special

Posted by >500

On 2010-02-02 02:41:01, glownlow wrote:

[ This Message was edited by: glownlow on 2010-02-02 01:47 ]

Ah... read my post mate.... i did say snapdragon 'android' phones. As Synn said, the phones you listed defo are not Android, and, neither is your LG.

Maybe the stuff im smoking is pretty good hey?

shall we get back on topic now... thanks (every one in general)

I've heard word Telstra plans on releasing the x10 here mid-end of Feb provided it gets through testing smoothly. We'll see what happens....

[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2010-02-02 10:30 ]

Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-02-01 17:59:42, doministry wrote:
Plus those iPhone lies don't make any good.

Where are these lies exactly? Just wondering if you can quote any. At all.

Posted by LRI

On 2010-02-02 10:30:41, Nitro Fan wrote:

On 2010-02-02 01:02:38, titus1 wrote:

Yup..trasher. Boinng and Nitro fan that is. disgruntled SE fan. Why can't you just moved on guys?

2008 you newbies really do think you are something special

wow, you win dumbest post sofar, and thats pretty impressive considering this thread. How would the time a person's been a registered user of esato matter in anyway?

Posted by chenmartin
is this true??
http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/[....]rtphone_to_launch_1_March.aspx

Posted by goldenface

On 2010-02-02 10:30:41, Nitro Fan wrote:
2008 you newbies really do think you are something special

http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/[....]rtphone_to_launch_1_March.aspx

Roll on March 1st. Yipppppeeeeeeeeee!

[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-02-02 12:27 ]

Posted by chenmartin
PDair Leather Case for Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 - Vertical Pouch Type Belt clip included (Black)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0CEwKd-zSs

PDair Leather Case for Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 - Horizontal Pouch Type (Black)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPK2ZHF_mBc

source
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/[....]Path=10100000_1800000_11000898

Posted by XPHCTOC

On 2010-02-02 13:17:48, goldenface wrote:

On 2010-02-02 10:30:41, Nitro Fan wrote:
2008 you newbies really do think you are something special

http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/[....]rtphone_to_launch_1_March.aspx

Roll on March 1st. Yipppppeeeeeeeeee!

[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-02-02 12:27 ]

Good to know

Posted by goldenface
At last! My C905 is definitely on its way out so the sooner the better, eh?

Now it's finding out if the White version is going to be available sim-free or as the Voda exclusive.

Posted by -16-

On 2010-02-02 13:16:25, chenmartin wrote:
is this true??
http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/[....]rtphone_to_launch_1_March.aspx

i think it's 2 nice 2 b true...

Posted by anonymuser
I think it's probably true. Why wouldn't it be? March is about as far as they can stretch "Q1" - they'll officially release on the 1st, but (I predict) we'll see a few more weeks pass before stock gets out there in numbers.

Posted by SE-Naz
That is good news... Lets hope all works out well and there are no issues with the handset

Posted by Nitro Fan

On 2010-02-02 13:17:48, goldenface wrote:

On 2010-02-02 10:30:41, Nitro Fan wrote:
2008 you newbies really do think you are something special

http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/[....]rtphone_to_launch_1_March.aspx

Roll on March 1st. Yipppppeeeeeeeeee!

[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-02-02 12:27 ]

Still waiting for the demo that shows timescape running real fast?

Posted by mediar
It would be great if SE release it on 1st March. That PDair Leather Case looks promising. I will buy one of I see it somewhere in the shops around in sale.

@Nitro Fan - someone mentioned that the lates X10 fw is already two weeks old, so I think the next one, which may be out soon, will speed Mediascape and Timescape up.

[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2010-02-02 13:20 ]