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Sony Ericsson X10 Official Thread


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Posted by mediar
Does X10 have equalizer in the Mediascape application?

How does X10's screen look like when someone is calling you? Is it like Aino's or it's better?
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2010-01-01 21:34 ]



Posted by Caspa
With regards the calling question, I would add...

When someone calls it will obviously display the associated contact picture, but will it have the green Android robot when there is no contact picture - just like the HTC Hero???

Ive read that a number of people dont like that green robot so have been looking for ways to change it - think the only solution at the moment is a custom rom...

I wonder if SE has skinned that and made it the same as there other phones...

Posted by jack00
do we at least know a release window for this one ?

Posted by mediar
And I have another question ( but don't forget the previous one - I am waiting an answer ) - how do we multitask in Android?

Posted by Domecot

On 2010-01-03 09:09:07, mediar wrote:
And I have another question ( but don't forget the previous one - I am waiting an answer ) - how do we multitask in Android?


There are several applications available on Android Market. I don't know the exact names but Rikard Skorberg said he downloaded one and it performed excellent.

Posted by mediar
I actually found the answer a while ago here - http://forum.dailymobile.se/index.php?topic=14381.0 . I found also some good file explorers and other interesting applications for Android, such as MobileWrite, Voice Text, Youtube Downloader and so on.

As far as I understood, when you press the middle button in X10, you actually minimize the program, but you don't close it. I'm wondering how do you switch between the opened apps. Using "EStrongs Task Manager", there is an option "Switch To", but how to open the task manager, since there is no icon in the taskbar?
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2010-01-03 12:39 ]


Posted by Caspa
As per your link, you simply need to hold down the 'Home' button to bring up the last 6 used apps... If you wanted to use another you would need to just single press the home button and then navigate to the other program... This is of course unless you use a different task manager type program... But as you can setup your home screens how you like, you can do so in a manner that allows you to access what you need quickly and easily...

Posted by mediar
New video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Za_RF2C-UA

If don't make this phone too expensive, X10 will have bright future.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2010-01-04 19:55 ]


Posted by cgmiki
What's the latest on secondary video call camera? Can anyone confirm it?
Cheers

Posted by PakMan786
bad news guys ,
according to rog, from se-first.com, the X10 will be availeble in late march....

Source: http://www.telefon-treff.de/s[....]php?postid=3962650#post3962650


Posted by mreman4k

On 2010-01-05 01:07:48, PakMan786 wrote:
bad news guys ,
according to rog, from se-first.com, the X10 will be availeble in late march....

Source: http://www.telefon-treff.de/s[....]php?postid=3962650#post3962650



I hope its not true. The Android landscape is going to heat up Q1 2010. Having an SE Android 1.6 handset come out that late (in a few select markets) is going to cost SE a lot of money.

Posted by tranced
Why the delay? Hardware or software problem now?

Posted by mediar
That's really bad. Why don't they stop working on 1.6 and go directly on 2.0? At the time they release X10, Google Nexus One will have obsesses X10's supposed marked share.

X10 is going to have the same release period like X2 - 5 months.

Posted by sealover94
now what i was saying about a month ago.... about delaying.......
I hope some guys understand why i was agry when i was informed about X2 releasing dates......

Posted by OffLineR
X10 is still the best phone for me.
I hope it will as well be when release the phone

Posted by Hiron
Why don't they just release X10 with 1.6 vanilla android on november (without UX) and then release an update to 2.0.1 with UX later in March? That would make a lot of money from the end-year season...


Hiron
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2010-01-05 09:13 ]


Posted by Osmano
SE's release date was originally Q1 so technically there isn't a delay yet....

Posted by snoFlake

On 2010-01-05 09:15:35, sealover94 wrote:
now what i was saying about a month ago.... about delaying.......
I hope some guys understand why i was agry when i was informed about X2 releasing dates......



No they can't and that's why they didn't get it when you pointed out the implications of it to them once again bringing down the rage of the juvenile on your head. When I consider the input you've had to this thread and the way you're regularly treated by fanboi infants I'm amazed and impressed you continue bothering.

I hope Rog's info is worst case scenario rather than set in stone for SE's sake and let's see how today's announcement from Google leaves the X10 project looking.

Posted by Nitro Fan
Given past record the chances of the X10 being on time, reasonably priced and with working SW mods are IMHO remote

However having had an opportunity to use an android device (T-Mobile Pulse) extensively over the Christmas period could learn a thing or two about build quality from Huawei this thing is CHEAP yet it is very well built so take note

But as for capacitive screens, they are rubbish! I had more typos than I can care to mention, the screen simply does what it feels like, unlike the resistive screens and Nokia have been using which are accurate and work first time every time, whoever thinks capacitive screens are the way forward has clearly never used one that's for certain.

In fact the screen made the whole experience rather disappointing, often taking three or four touches to launch an application and it was rather laggy I can only hope decide to drop putting another layer of interface over the OS.
For one thing they have proved they are no good at it with the X1 and secondly it will be so slow it wont be worth trying to use it!

Overall I can see where Android is coming from and it has the potential to be a very good OS although Google Docs needs FAR better integration but it is not yet the finished article

I am seriously considering either the N900 (But I need to see how those slider keyboards behave over time before I spend MY hard earned cash on one) - Or an Android device the HTC Hero looks very promising and in theory the X10 looks very good but as I said at the beginning have my doubts about ability to deliver.




Posted by anonymuser
I suspect the January release window was dreamt up by somebody at SE back when they still thought it was okay to release horribly buggy phones to early adopters - before the embarrasment of the Satio and the public shaming that the retailers wrought on SE. Maybe someone got nervous about repeating that again so soon.

Or maybe they've decided that the X10's launch was likely to get lost in all the Nexus One's hooplah anyway? Do they release now and try to shout louder than Google, or leave that to settle down and release in March when the X10 is even more out of date? An unenviable choice.

What they should have done? Dropped development of the pointless and similarly delayed X2 several months ago, piled all their resources into the X10 from the onset, and released this phone before Christmas when it could have had a real impact.

Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-01-05 13:38:15, Nitro Fan wrote:
But as for capacitive screens, they are rubbish! I had more typos than I can care to mention, the screen simply does what it feels like, unlike the resistive screens and Nokia have been using which are accurate and work first time every time, whoever thinks capacitive screens are the way forward has clearly never used one that's for certain.


To be fair, that sounds like a poorly implemented (cheap?) screen, with an OS that has no multitouch support (and hence a rubbish on-screen keyboard). There are a LOT of satisfied iPhone users out there who have used a capacative screen extensively and are certain they're the way forward (though not for everyone, naturally).

Android makers really need to make more use of multitouch, especially on keyboard-less phones, and it's something of a mystery why they don't.

Posted by >500
sorry but how does releasing a phone for christmas mean better sales??

dont know bout over there, but phone sales have been poor over christmas here. well, only thing which say higher sales are the cheaper things, like prepaid/payg

Posted by anonymuser
People tend to buy things at Christmas, then tighten their belt in the new year - but to be honest that's almost incidental to this. Releasing a high-end handset before one of the biggest companies in the world releases a directly competing product, that would have helped SE sell this phone.

Posted by goldenface
Have SE actually confirmed a specific release date in Q1? If they haven't then how can it be delayed.

@Boinng

Do we have a release date for the google phone or is it just an announcement?
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-01-05 13:07 ]


Posted by Arne Anka
To my best knowledge SE officially never gives any specific dates, just quarter and year. Specific dates given usually comes from second sources, which may or may not have any insight in the company (difficult to know).
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2010-01-05 13:12 ]


Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-01-05 14:05:21, goldenface wrote:
Have SE actually confirmed a specific release date in Q1? If they haven't then how can it be delayed.


The January launch date was always unlikely but it has been attributed to various "official" SE sources over the past month or so. It even appeared on the SE website at one point.

@Boinng

Do we have a release date for the google phone or is it just an announcement?


Right now we have nothing, the announcement hasn't happened yet - but the phone exists in fairly final form and has been released (complete with what appears to be retail packaging) to the likes of Engadget for in-depth review. It gained FCC approval earlier than the X10 and appears to be ready for a January release.

Either way, even a promise of this phone from Google themselves will take out some of the X10's potential sales. They should have been quicker, simple as that.


Posted by goldenface
@Boinng

You sound like you've written off the X10 already but it's still a very highly anticipated phone. After an update to 2.0 the X10 will be on par software wise and probably above par hardware wise and I'd say that most would agree the X10 is eye candy when sat next to it.




Posted by anonymuser
I haven't written it off, but the existence of the Nexus One is a serious blow to the X10's chances. It was originally thought (by some) that the X10 would be the first 1GHz Snapdragon Android handset, and a clear class leader - not any more.

Like I said before, they should have dropped the X2 and gotten the X10 out a lot sooner - and if you aren't convinced that the X2 was a waste of development resource, read this - http://news.softpedia.com/new[....]ricsson-Xperia-X2-131164.shtml

After the "success" of the Satio and X2, could there be more riding on the X10 now?

Posted by moogoo
check it out guys... X10 is coming to canada.. officially!

http://smr.newswire.ca/en/son[....]on-xperia-x10-coming-to-canada

anybody know what rogers' 3G frequencies are? i'm wondering if this means the north american (i.e., ATT 3G compatible) model will be available then too.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2010-01-05 14:27 ]


Posted by BBB


It says second quarter :

Toronto , January 5, 2010 – Canadians will be among the first in the world to experience open and integrated social media, communication and entertainment with the launch of the Sony Ericsson Xperia ™ X10 phone, which will make its North American debut first in Canada , exclusively from Rogers . The Xperia ™ X10 is expected to be available in the second quarter 2010.


Posted by mreman4k

On 2010-01-05 15:24:55, moogoo wrote:
check it out guys... X10 is coming to canada.. officially!

http://smr.newswire.ca/en/son[....]on-xperia-x10-coming-to-canada

anybody know what rogers' 3G frequencies are? i'm wondering if this means the north american (i.e., ATT 3G compatible) model will be available then too.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2010-01-05 14:27 ]



Rogers 3G frequencies = ATT 3G frequencies

Posted by moogoo
awesome looks like we don't have to wait that long after all


Posted by Pistvakten

On 2010-01-05 14:05:21, goldenface wrote:
Have SE actually confirmed a specific release date in Q1? If they haven't then how can it be delayed.



In November there was a date available...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/[....]-in-uk-says-sony-ericsson-sit/


Posted by Caspa

On 2010-01-05 13:57:01, >500 wrote:
sorry but how does releasing a phone for christmas mean better sales??

dont know bout over there, but phone sales have been poor over christmas here. well, only thing which say higher sales are the cheaper things, like prepaid/payg



Generally half of all retail sales happens at this time of year, and that was definately true of Carphone Warehouse when I used to work for them some some 8 years ago - not sure if this is still the case, but either way, the Christmas shopping period is key for retail...

Posted by mats1
source http://www.minhembio.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=237172&st=630

Ok, but you've heard wrong. We talked a bit more and it is an irritant ###### thing that slows down the launch. Namely, that Qualcomm can not clear the platform. It would have been ready V.40 but is not ready yet.

Are you a bit conspiratorial as one might imagine that Google had to slip in the queue. So it has nothing to do with software.


Posted by doministry

On 2010-01-05 15:21:32, Boinng wrote:
I haven't written it off, but the existence of the Nexus One is a serious blow to the X10's chances. It was originally thought (by some) that the X10 would be the first 1GHz Snapdragon Android handset, and a clear class leader - not any more.

Like I said before, they should have dropped the X2 and gotten the X10 out a lot sooner - and if you aren't convinced that the X2 was a waste of development resource, read this - http://news.softpedia.com/new[....]ricsson-Xperia-X2-131164.shtml

After the "success" of the Satio and X2, could there be more riding on the X10 now?



Which one of those have you used?
X2? X10? Or maybe none?

If that's a fact that you haven't even touch any of them,
stop talking about things you have no clue about really.

Oh wait! Vodafone is not having HTC HD2 anymore and is not planning to stock it...
That must be a sh..ty device!
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2010-01-06 00:05 ]


Posted by Supa_Fly
HAHA you FISHES!

FINALLY SonyEricsson is stepping up to the plate!!!

Here in Canada ... the X10 will become available SOON on our 2nd largest provider Rogers Wireless and its the FIRST TIME ANY SonyEricsson phone will be available AT LAUNCH at the same time as those of you in EUROPE!

I'm so happy for SonyEricsson right now. No I won't be buying one anytime soon, but I'm VERY happy for them.
Considering the Google phone just looks like CHEESE to me and seemingly to the rest of the world, this bodes VERY well for SonyEricsson. Their device announced early is being delivered in style and competitive!

http://www.rogers.com/web/con[....]_Eng-_-XperiaX10_WIR_PRE_slot1



The link above for the image is
http://www.rogers.com/cms/ima[....]icsson_X10_preorder_banner.jpg




Posted by titus1
There is so much negative vibe here in Esato...don't you think?



[ This Message was edited by: titus1 on 2010-01-06 05:07 ]


Posted by SE-Naz
Im not sure if anyone can confirm the correct date

Expansys UK have a date in April... if this is for real... then are in serious trouble...

http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=185317

Cheers
ENJOY

Posted by Nitro Fan

On 2010-01-05 13:49:07, Boinng wrote:
I suspect the January release window was dreamt up by somebody at SE back when they still thought it was okay to release horribly buggy phones to early adopters - before the embarrasment of the Satio and the public shaming that the retailers wrought on SE. Maybe someone got nervous about repeating that again so soon.

Or maybe they've decided that the X10's launch was likely to get lost in all the Nexus One's hooplah anyway? Do they release now and try to shout louder than Google, or leave that to settle down and release in March when the X10 is even more out of date? An unenviable choice.

What they should have done? Dropped development of the pointless and similarly delayed X2 several months ago, piled all their resources into the X10 from the onset, and released this phone before Christmas when it could have had a real impact.


+10 Boinng but that would have taken foresight and planning... and this IS we are talking about! Happy New Year

Posted by mediar

On 2010-01-06 10:43:43, SE-Naz wrote:
Im not sure if anyone can confirm the correct date

Expansys UK have a date in April... if this is for real... then are in serious trouble...

http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=185317

Cheers
ENJOY



So 6 months... That's more than Satio's release period ( May - October - 5 months ).

Posted by sealover94
IMHO Wait for a new SE Android smartphone(hopefully with no delays till summer) ... don't become testers of another sonyericsson's outdated first attempt. Otherwise go for Nexus one.

I said goodbye to this device since i heard about the x2 releasing date about a month ago..



Posted by Dups!
When last was that page updated? There are so many errors that I highly doubt it is the correct date in there.

But then again, SE is excellent in delays...

Posted by kingcool88
As mentioned before, its not SE thats delayed, its QUALCOMM that cant deliver the platform in time!
SE side is almost ready with the software, so qualcomm is a big backstab...

And to the guy asking if the green android guy shows up if somebody you dont have contactpic, calls. The answer is now:) It shows a timescape blue pic, with the number:)

Info taken from minhembio (swedish):
http://www.minhembio.com/foru[....]237172&view=findpost&p=2730526
http://www.minhembio.com/foru[....]237172&view=findpost&p=2730291

Posted by Nitro Fan

On 2010-01-06 05:20:40, titus1 wrote:
There is so much negative vibe here in Esato...don't you think?



[ This Message was edited by: titus1 on 2010-01-06 05:07 ]



THAT is entirely down to disappointing its loyal customer base time after time after time. as of this minute the Nexus looks a far better bet than the X10 for me.

Posted by MyP910
but.. the nexus one is ugly (to me)... In term of design, X10 wins hands down.

Posted by synn
Ever occurred to some of you that the launch date of the X10 may be revised purely due to marketing reasons, i.e. to not let it get lost in the sea of hype that follows the Nexus One?

Jeez, at the first sight of blood, the sharks come out. Talking logic here is an exercise in futility.

Posted by doministry
X2 in Poland SE store available from 18th Jan.

Posted by anonymuser

On 2010-01-06 13:13:11, synn wrote:
Ever occurred to some of you that the launch date of the X10 may be revised purely due to marketing reasons, i.e. to not let it get lost in the sea of hype that follows the Nexus One?


Yes.


On 2010-01-05 13:49:07, Boinng wrote:
Or maybe they've decided that the X10's launch was likely to get lost in all the Nexus One's hooplah anyway? Do they release now and try to shout louder than Google, or leave that to settle down and release in March when the X10 is even more out of date? An unenviable choice.


SE wouldn't be in this position if they hadn't mismanaged their own R&D from the start.

Posted by goldenface

On 2010-01-05 22:08:38, Pistvakten wrote:

On 2010-01-05 14:05:21, goldenface wrote:
Have SE actually confirmed a specific release date in Q1? If they haven't then how can it be delayed.


In November there was a date available...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/[....]-in-uk-says-sony-ericsson-sit/



Thanks for clearing that up. So the Expected release date was 10th Feb and its now been put back six weeks or so. Thats fine. So with an update to 2.0 it'll have up to date software but anyway, I guess the majority of people are more interested in what the phone can do rather than what version software it is running.

So the delay seems to rest with Qualcomm not clearing the platform? That sounds serious to me. Why might they not be able to clear it?

All the latest video demonstrations we have seen so far show the software performing well.

After having Satio for a while I'm looking forward to trying out the X10. I think it's an amazing device.

@Prom1 Yeah, I'm feeling the joy. An device released on both sides of the Atlantic at the same time for once. That's got to be a first.
[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2010-01-06 13:38 ]



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