Posted by vegetaleb
I have the W995 for about 1 month
I loved in the beggining
But now I am bored of it! Why? because I am tired of the same SE menu since the T68!
Yes sir! I am a heavy addicted and loyal SE user and had always SE phones for 10 years( apart the N95 and 5800 that lasted 2 months each), before the W995 I had the C905 that had the identical menu and software...BORING!
I saw the Samsung Jet last day with its fabulous AMOLED and most of all 480x800 resolution of screen
Widgets seem to be very practical too
Ok it's not a smartphone but it looks like them and it's very different from SE menu,so I would not be bored again!
My cell shop proposed me 100$ for swapping with my W995
Shall I go for it?
PS: I will get the SAtio when it will be at a reasonable price,means not before January
Posted by Bonovox
Why not. Samsung are a quality brand except i hate their menus.
Posted by se_love
Trust me you will get bored of the Jet and fast. Not to mention your going from one of the best phones out there to one of the meh phones right now just cause of OLED and a new menu system. Oled for me while its a power saver is useless.
Posted by vegetaleb
The samsung Jet got some nice grades of 9/10 and 10/10 and bad grades of 7/10 in other reviews.
The W995 has the same kind of mixed grades,so the Jet is not a meh phone.
So for the menus its the choice of having an internal logical menu (SE) that didnt change for years vs a fun external menu thanks to widgets (Samsung released a SDK for widgets) but no themes! Which one is more boring?
Posted by se_love
I find the Samsung one a bit boring. I owned a DJ and believe me I found the A200 a godsend when I reused it. Sure its because I basically modded everything but so what it was just that better. And I thought he said star not Jet so that's why I said meh. Yeah the Jet is fine.
[ This Message was edited by: se_love on 2009-09-19 12:19 ]
Posted by SLY21
why not think about going for the sam i8910 but getting back on theme my mate has got a jet and he was a se man through and through but he was board with the same os and he has not stoped going on about his jet !!,,, he is will happy 5 months down the road !
Posted by Bonovox
Its whatever makes you happy at the end of the day. Samsung imo make quality phones with amazing quality features and i bet the screen resolution looks amazing compared to your old phone but the one thing i detest about Samsung is its menus. Whilst yes i can work them quite well simple tasks like sending a text is not such fun. Very annoying menus that i don't like. But i still think they are great just not their menus compared to Sony Ericsson. But nice one bet the Jet is nice and enjoy it have fun.
Posted by vegetaleb
I promise I will come back to SE when the Satio will cost 500$ and less, the price at launch will be about 750-800$ which is way too much
The Samsung Omnia HD is a Satio before the Satio, but here too the main problem is the price
[ This Message was edited by: vegetaleb on 2009-09-19 12:55 ]
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Lol!! I laughd when i read "you're going from one of the best phones out there to one of the meh phones". Considering that the Jet carries smartphone type hardware: 800mhz CPU with graphics acceleration, 720x480 @ 30fps vid recording and playback, 8GB mem ALREADY BUILT IN and a mem card slot, TV-Out, DNSe Audio, 480x800 screen resolution, Web browser that supports Flash content,support for Xvid DivX etc. . .playback and a great new UI. If it also has multitasking then its a great upgrade from a W995. It makes the SE look totaly outdated, the W995 seems to be the "meh" device here, especialy if you are bored with the UI that hasnt changed much in years, although i dont mind, i prefer SE UI over Samsungs, but i gota give credit where its due, the Jet has loads more to offer,and will smoke the lil W995 at most Multimedia: Video recording, playback, format support, gaming etc. . . Id say go for Jet
[ This Message was edited by: GUCCI.011 on 2009-09-19 17:05 ]
Posted by gola
...Flawless...
Posted by SLY21
hear hear you are rite there
Posted by Bonovox
Samsung phones have poor menus though and all have probably the worst reception you could ever get. Samsung phones do the basics poorly though yes their multi media is fantastic but I would choose the Sony Ericsson.
Posted by MWEB
The LG Arena has more or less everything the Jet has, plus a capacitive display, deranged Samsung put their best CPU in a NON smartphone, where it's pretty damned pointless, W995 *feels/looks* like a quality device, Jet feels/looks like pretty much every Tom, Dick and Harry TS device
So it's not all one way traffic here.
Posted by Bonovox
Yeah but having recently had a few touch screen devices I have come to the conclusion I hate them and prefer buttons. Touch screens drive me up the wall and to be honest I see no point and touch screens are more prone to failure than traditional phones. I have realised now I prefer my lovely trusty Sony Ericsson phones with buttons
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Ye for me personal i prefer buttons as well thats why i settled on the fact that my next phone must be either a N85, N86 8MP, or Samsung Innov8. I need a Dpad, and a t9 keypad, cant stand QWERTY, gota love one handed use, can type a whole post whilest channel hopping on the tv
Posted by se_dude
Err, you seriously dont think the jet is good at gaming.Half the games dont run on it.It has pathetic app management.Seems to run apps on its mood.Cant install files more than 6mb,etc etc.I have both though.And the jet provides a good touch experience.
Posted by Bonovox
I forgot to say a few other things that bug me about Samsung. No matter how amazing their technology I still dont understand why Samsung cannot deal with their pathetic memory card management. Why oh why do you still now on a Samsung phone still have to copy a ring tone and a wallpaper to the phone memory to use it? Its so stupid and wierd. Every other manufacturer does it right but not Samsung. Also their file management is so messy. Plus saving camera pics to memory card as default always goes back to phone memory after plugging into a pc. Drives me up the wall dont think I will bother with Samsung again. Just the little things get on my nerves with them.
Posted by vegetaleb
The W995 which feels solid in the beginning is not the same one month after...the lower part of the slider move about 2mm from side to side,pressing the buttons on the slider part is not the best feeling I have seen,you have cracks!
About java games and apps on the Samsung Jet, do they play full screen or half screen like on the 5800?
Posted by hihihans
Is it still crap? I know it was terrible but hoped they managed to solve the memory matters. My wife is not so happy with her C905, so I was thinking of Jet for her. Lets hope apple puts in a better cam next year.
Posted by titus1
I don't know...It's just that Samsung doesn't have an appeal to me. Looking at my K850 and I can say it is a beauty
Posted by >500
one thing keeping me from a Samsung is their battery life! It's one thing that
does well and as a result i haven't made a permanent switch to other manufacturers. While i have tried others, ive not stuck with them.[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2009-09-20 14:05 ]
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Ye thats one great point about SE, the battery life, although it wasnt that fantastic on my W900, i think it was due to the Vodafone firmware,cause it was the same on K850 until i debranded the K850, now it lasts for ever lol, it lasted a whole week with me just using it for taking a few pics, listenin to some music and some IM a day.
Posted by Bonovox
Yes yes yes Sony Ericsson the best by far for battery life. I do remember many moons ago having the w900 on a Vodafone contract. The battery was awful pity never on other networks. I miss the old s700i.
Posted by vegetaleb
Are you kind of SE advertisers?
The C905 battery could last 3 days and the W995 can't make more than 2 days
And I am not a heavy Wifi user
Posted by Tsepz_GP
LOL! Vegetaleb
Get what you think will be best bro, im shocked to read that SAMSUNG still suffer from their unpratical UI and poor java implentation. Wouldnt you rather get a iPhone3GS or a HTC Hero?
Posted by MWEB
Latest Touchwizz is actually very good, problem with the iphone as an alternative is it's perhaps 50% more, Hero's a great device, Android's superb.
Posted by vegetaleb
Still no Hero in my country (double sense)
@Bonovox Are you talking about the Jet for the Memory problems or Samsung in general?
[ This Message was edited by: vegetaleb on 2009-09-20 18:16 ]
Posted by Bonovox
My brother has a Tocco Lite and it has the touch Wizz interface which is easy to use in some ways and frustrating in others. But yes the Tocco Lite suffers from the stupid memory card thing where you have to copy wallpapers and ring tones to the phone to use them. Its so wierd considering their technology. Also default memory always goes back to phone memory. Its little irritating things like that. I also find texting awkward on their Touch Wizz interface and file management is messy.
Posted by dizzybee
Yeahh but Samsung phones are much better built and don't have any se software problems.
Go for the Jet
Posted by Bonovox
Samsung phones do sometimes suffer from software problems like any. But not as much as Sony Ericsson or Nokia. But my brothers Tocco Lite whilst its a nice reliable phone its so irritating to use for practical things. For some reason even with an 8 giga byte card in it with nothing on it everytime it still shows only 1,000 camera photos can be saved. This goes down with each picture taken. An empty 8 giga byte card can save more than that. It stays the same if you fill it up too but Samsung have such a strange memory card management. Its all backwards. On my Nokia 6303 an 8 giga byte shows i can save over 8,000 photos.
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[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2009-10-23 23:41 ]
Posted by hihihans
I just can't take Samsung serious as a phone builder. I've got a microwave and a video-recorder by them, both great. My wife had 2 Samsung phones ?880 and D-900 both where rubbish with sim/phone management. Setting ringtones was restricted, and the menu was so weird. Not to mention sound and pic quality. I'm sure they improved a lot, a big lot. But I never met someone who said: Samsung is the best. (Should I visit a Samsung forum?)
Posted by Bonovox
No dont bother visiting their forums if you dont like them. I like some of Samsung's quality and they do have great technology know how and make quality products. But i just cant get over how despite all this their memory card management is so poor. And Java
Posted by dizzybee
On 2009-10-24 01:32:36, hihihans wrote:
But I never met someone who said: Samsung is the best. (Should I visit a Samsung forum?)
Me.
But then only since March this year when I recived a U600 to replace my dreadful W910.
Me and my mate have dropped our U600's countless times. You should see the state of hers, but they both work fine. My camera is dying currently but then my phone is 2 years old.
Old sony ericssons last, the new ones dont. I'd like to see if a W595 will endure what a U600 can.
Posted by hihihans
Ok, I'm happy for you. Really. I knew there must be fans or they wouldn't sell so much.
Posted by domipost
Owning a Jét and having owned a W995 twice, I think it's safe to say W995 is way better for everything except video playback. Don't understand me wrong, I love my Jét, but it can't compare to W995's look and feel, music player and menu structure.
If you ware bored of SE menu's, it's a good choice I think, though LG's S-Class interface might be more fun to use for a while. Though I don't find it as handy as Samsung's TouchWiz in everyday use.
Anyway, regarding your choice to buy a Satio soon and wanting to try anything else than SE, I'd say go for it
Posted by Bonovox
Yes i do now prefer LG to Samsung
Posted by dizzybee
I'm not slagging SE. I just prefer Samsung, they've never let me down.
Posted by hihihans
This is why there are different brands and models I guess. There is always one that suits your needs.
Posted by Bonovox
Last time i had a Samsung i never experienced any faults with it just annoying little things about menus that get on your nerves. You still cant beat Sony Ericsson UI
But yes Samsung have less faults than most. The Samsung Tocco Lite did have microphone problems cutting out when it first came out for instance. But it turned out it was just on O2. It was an O2 problem for some reason.
Posted by dizzybee
Yeahh and you have to wait until it sends a message before you can do anything else. Battery life is poor and poor file management like Bonovox said, also slow when view pictures. But then, you can't have everything?
Also with the tocco lite you can have either a red or green theme? You should be able to make your own like on the soul
Posted by Bonovox
Yes the 2 themes are boring on the Tocco Lite. One thing my brother did on his Tocco Lite is take a completely black picture then edit it to screen size and then use it for menu background. That way the icons really stand out on a black background. The Tocco Lite is better regarding battery and speed than the Ultra model.
Posted by dizzybee
I think I'm gona get myself a tocco ultra from ebay. They go for around 100 quid. Same price as the tocco lite brand new. No brainer I guess
Posted by Bonovox
Yeah just dont get a branded one it will make it even slower. Its not a bad phone if you can live with its gripes its camera is very good.
Posted by dizzybee
I've been reading some user reviews and they all say it's an arse to text with. I think I'm just gona get a soul. Cheaper as well
Is it any good?