Posted by Raiderski
3GS shows positive direction of the whole platform development
Posted by bavlondon2
This phone is so cool. Im getting it right away.
Posted by RyaN
On 2009-06-09 11:24:37, bavlondon2 wrote:
This phone is so cool. Im getting it right away.
In 10 days, not right away
Posted by Nanu
On 2009-06-09 09:36:53, Mr Miyagi wrote:
That's true. But your not just paying that ammount of money just for the phone. Your paying for unlimited free Internet your paying for getting so many minutes and SMS free too. Plus it's not just a phone. It is an iPod as well as a movie player and so much more. As the apple saying goes. Your paying a premium price for a premium product. I have decided I will be getting this phone only wen my k850 dies on me and when it's out of warranty. In the mean time I wi also enjoy having my work iPhone. N it's only later on I'll be buying this one.
On 2009-06-08 23:21:23, Nanu wrote:
£1761.84 is a lot of money for a free phone! (based on the 32GB 3Gs over 24 months)
The dictionary definition of free is "available without charge" so if I walked into O2 and back out again with an iPhone 3Gs 32GB in my pocket without signing up to a 24 month contract costing £1761.84 then it would be free (This could be said about any phone except the extortionate pricing)
And as for the free WiFi, I offer a free dishwasher to my customers when then spend over £2.5k on a kitchen, who do you think really pays for that dishwasher???
Either way you look at it your still paying at least £272.81 for the iPhone 3Gs on either contract, this is still ridiculous especially for those who wish to pay out £70+/month
For example:
Simplicity £36.72 gets you 1200 mins 2400 texts unlimited data unlimited WiFi so over 24 months £881.28
iPhone 3Gs £44.05 gets you 1200 mins 500 texts unlimited data unlimited WiFi so over 24 months £1057.20 + the cost of the phone @ £96.89 takes you to £1154.09
£1154.09 - £881.28 = £272.81 (surprisingly)
Also you lose 45,600 texts.
What I am pointing out here is O2 still charge a high price for the handset, no matter what colour blinkers you happen to be wearing!
Posted by >500
so the new iphone will be just as expensive as the iphone 3g was when it launched??? And will it be networked locked as usual?
if so, i plan on getting one when it comes here on upgrade (june 26th we get it apparently) and flogging it off on ebay! Will sell for $1000aud just like the iphone 3g did when released if pricing is the same as 3g when released (or more)
sorry if its been mentioned, i havent read the thread
Posted by Waka
mms, video recording, tomtom and voice activation? Surprisingly apple are are just playing catch-up here rather than being innovative. And the 3mp camera with no flash and no front camera for video recording are pretty disappointing. But my biggest beef is no memory card slot so apple can gouge you for the 32GB iphone and no mini-usb for charging etc. means my next phone will be an android.
sorry Apple, not good enough.
W.
Posted by Barachus
a bit of a let down, there is nothing really to tempt a 3G user to the 3GS, but if i was new phone user i would certainly pick it over any other phone on the market
i have to commend Apple they still take care of the older users of the V1 and 3g, not like other manufacturers who would just move onto the next model and forget completely about the older ones
at the very least we can still enjoy the anger and indignation of the iphone haters as they rant and rave about how apple are putting common features like voice control and video editing in a phone and acting as if they invented it
Posted by anonymuser
Apple are simply doing what they've been doing since the first iPhone and OS appeared - taking existing technologies and making them more useable and useful. Video recording may be nothing new, but in-phone editing of full VGA material - that is new, and it makes the other features like Youtube sharing a lot more useful. Full voice control is available as an expensive add-on for Windows Mobile phones, but on the 3G S it's built in and fully integrated, and presumably open to other apps too. How long before you can talk back to TomTom I wonder?
Its fair to say this won't immediately entice a lot of upgrades from existing 3G owners, particularly the way its priced, but together with the new OS and the rest of the "catching up" going on there, I'm quite sure this will attract a great many new converts. There are a LOT of people who up until recently were saying "I'd like an iPhone but I can't do without video/TomTom/cut and paste/MMS" who have suddenly had all those barriers lifted.
Posted by Barachus
very true, there is nothing left to really criticise the iphone about now, apart from the deluded folk who think their 8MP phones are a viable alternative to a basic camera
[ This Message was edited by: NoKia on 2009-06-09 12:44 ]
Posted by anonymuser
The strange types waging a war on "fanboys" will still whinge on about price, they'll whinge on about iTunes, they'll whinge on about multitasking (ignoring the fact that you don't need it with notifications and a device this responsive), and of course they'll insist that anything less than a 12MP camera and 1080P screen isn't even worth mentioning... but all the genuine gotchas that actually bothered other people are gone now. Which is good.
Posted by bavlondon2
They all like to moan but eventually they end up getting one. lol I find it funny they still find time to whinge after all this time becsaue they cannot stand the attention it gets.
Posted by Coxy
Still can't send items by bluetooth?
Posted by jcwhite_uk
On 2009-06-09 14:29:41, bavlondon2 wrote:
They all like to moan but eventually they end up getting one. lol I find it funny they still find time to whinge after all this time becsaue they cannot stand the attention it gets.
I am moaning because, at last, it has the features I want but is too bl**dy expensive and I can not justify the cost.
Posted by Nanu
On 2009-06-09 14:52:45, jcwhite_uk wrote:
On 2009-06-09 14:29:41, bavlondon2 wrote:
They all like to moan but eventually they end up getting one. lol I find it funny they still find time to whinge after all this time becsaue they cannot stand the attention it gets.
I am moaning because, at last, it has the features I want but is too bl**dy expensive and I can not justify the cost.
I'll second that notion, I would sell my G1 and 32GB iPod Touch tomorrow if only it wasn't so outrageously priced!
Posted by anonymuser
It does seem pricey at the moment. My guess is at some point in the nearish future, the older 3G will be phased out completely with the 16GB S taking it's place, and the prices will be reshuffled and cut at the same time. There's obviously some impressive new silicon in the S giving it all that speed, maybe they need to cover some extra costs there.
Posted by masseur
the price is the downside really.
I guess they put a worm on the hook with the original iphone, cast it out to see who they could catch with the iphone 3g, and now we're all hooked they think they can expect us to pay more for this new 3G S....
unfortunately where I'm concerned they're probably right! I've been scratching my head all morning working out the best way to get the 32gb... do I take another contract and pay out the old which has 7 months left, and then sell the old 3G 16gb which will more than make up for that payout)
do I get a payg 32gb and just sell the old 3g 16gb and then I have no contract, which is my pref, but am I missing out on some of the contract benefits?
hmmmm....
btw, if you use quidco and buy from CPW, you get £45 back. Unfortunately iphone is excluded from quicdo when buying direct from O2
Posted by >500
will probably be cheaper buying one from Aus masseur?
the 3g iphone was cheaper to buy here than uk, no?
i plan on getting it free on my $89 cap, gonna have to fight with Optus for it though, if not, i dont mind switching to my 3 staff plan. which gives me pretty much unlimited data, mobile tv, etc etc etc
Posted by Ricky D
I'm not going to lie, I never really liked the iPhone. Apart from the UI and apps (which are very subjective anyway) it's very very dull. The spec was bad, the smell was bad and it held no use in my life. then my friends all (I mean literally all of them) got the 3G. I played with it and it reinforced my notions already mentioned, but I always though the 3rd generation iPhone will be something to behold. There is so much potential for it to be THE all conquering device but I'm left severely deflated, but happy at the same time. As I said I don't like the iPhone and want it to fail but it hurts to see the potential they have being so badly wasted.
Posted by masseur
@>500, I can't remember... are the Aussie ones locked?
Posted by >500
@masseur
yes, if taken on contract, unlock can be done free, if bought on pre paid, was $80 im fairly sure to unlock with optus.
Posted by ocean21
On 2009-06-09 14:42:30, Coxy wrote:
Still can't send items by bluetooth?
You can, by using a third party app
Posted by masseur
hmm. ok, thanks for throwing that into the pot and giving me more to think about
trouble is that I am impatient when it comes to getting gadgets/technology and its a while before I head home again
Posted by >500
i could always send one over (if desperate and its that much cheaper
)
on sale june 26th here
Posted by anonymuser
On 2009-06-09 15:19:50, Ricky D wrote:
As I said I don't like the iPhone and want it to fail
I reckon you've probably got a little while longer to wait
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-06-09 14:48 ]
Posted by RyaN
On 2009-06-09 15:00:25, Boinng wrote:
It does seem pricey at the moment. My guess is at some point in the nearish future, the older 3G will be phased out completely with the 16GB S taking it's place, and the prices will be reshuffled and cut at the same time. There's obviously some impressive new silicon in the S giving it all that speed, maybe they need to cover some extra costs there.
Was just thinking about this and occured to me that the prices of the new 3GS are not in relation to a shuffle or 'upgrade' to the added memory, which is a joke tbh. the 16GB 3GS is being released at the same price as the 16GB 3G when it was released... surely with 'advancements' in techonology the 16GB should be sold as the 'new' 8GB and the 32GB 3GS the same as the 16GB 3G. This is where O2 have really f*cked up IMO. Extortion.
I can't see the current 3G model being phased out until iPhone 4G next year
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
My bet is that they'll continue selling the current 3G at the announced cheaper price at least until they clear all the stock currently in existence. I doubt they'll manufacture many more, but I bet there's plenty across the world that need to be gotten rid of.
And like RyaN sort of suggested, I bet when the 4th gen comes out next year (kind of sucks to think they're doing the iPod Nano 'one every year' thing with something so expensive huh?), then they'll make this 3GS the cheaper model until it's all cleared out of stock.
Posted by julias
On 2009-06-09 15:14:40, masseur wrote:
btw, if you use quidco and buy from CPW, you get £45 back. Unfortunately iphone is excluded from quicdo when buying direct from O2
Does this quidco discount apply to the PAYG version or contract?
Posted by masseur
looks like its only a fiver for payg
Posted by julias
Not that much then but i guess £5 is better than nothing
Posted by anonymuser
On 2009-06-09 15:49:01, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
My bet is that they'll continue selling the current 3G at the announced cheaper price at least until they clear all the stock currently in existence. I doubt they'll manufacture many more, but I bet there's plenty across the world that need to be gotten rid of.
Yep, exactly - unlike last year when they had a bit of a firesale to get rid of all stocks of the 1st gen iPhone just before the 3G was announced, this year they've kept the price of the 3G steady and will still have plenty of stock. So it becomes a cheap entry level option (for now) and the iPhone reaches an even wider audience.
At some point stocks will start to dry up and it won't make sense to manufacture any more, so perhaps in the run up to Christmas we'll see an "S" model replace it.
O2's pricing meanwhile doesn't make a lot of sense, and doesn't seem to match up with Apple's intentions at all. I don't understand how Apple can have halved the dollar price for the standard 3G 8GB for example, but if I were to go to the O2 online shop right now and order it on my choice of contract, I'd be paying exactly the same as I did last October...?
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-06-09 15:12 ]
Posted by RyaN
I really can see them keeping the 3G as an entry level option for some time. All the manufacturers have to do with the current 3G casing for the 3GS is scribe a little [S] on the back and '32GB' and it's good to go!! lol
I think keeping the 3G in the line up is the best most intelligent move by Apple, more so than bringing out the 3GS. It gives people that option of adopting the iPhone, and essentially buying apps in the future. Good move.
[ This Message was edited by: RyaN on 2009-06-09 15:31 ]
Posted by anonymuser
It makes sense as long as the 3G is cheaper, but here in the UK it's not unless you take out a two year contract, which isn't exactly much of a come on to the lower end of the market. Shame really.
Posted by Coxy
On 2009-06-09 15:25:54, ocean21 wrote:
You can, by using a third party app
Does it need to be jailbroken though?
Posted by tangey
On 2009-06-08 21:27:00, Mizzle wrote:
On 2009-06-08 21:18:01, whentheleveebreaks wrote:
I'll be getting one for sure
saying there is no new features is just wrong
Just what is new?
Ummm how about
Cortex A8 processor.
SGX OpenGL es2.0 graphics
Compass, which means maps will automatically orientate based on the direction you are pointing.
Compass also provides another control mechanism for gaming
Tap for focus (good idea)
Plus a lot of things that most other phones have had for ages. The new feature set means that the iphone is now missing very few "standard" features (which was the main reason I havn't gone for one), and now has the fastest processor/graphics combo (along with i8910), and some innovative new things. I wanted to get one for a while now, to get access to the app store, but the quirky missing things were putting me off.
Posted by ares
That Cortex processor has a max clock speed of 833mhz
Let´s take a minute to compare that (plus 256mb of RAM) with the N97...
Posted by Tsepz_GP
So does this upgrade in RAM mean that you can multitask now on the iPhone3GS? Can you realy compare this to N97? It seems to me that N97 will be a niche device, i cant see it reaching N95 sales, although NOKIA hopes it will.
Posted by se_dude
The satio and the i8910 uses the same proccy and the same amount of AM if am not wrong.
Posted by Bonovox
Just read in The Daily Mail today that Apple are planning on releasing a budget version of the iphone on pay as you go for mass market which could cost £100
Posted by p900 lover
I like the new iphone and plan on getting it in August, or a new BB not sure yet
tbh i wouldn't believe what the Daily Mail say...
Posted by rule_breaker
Im just wondering if I should get black or white? My instincts say White by my brain says black!
Posted by Mr Miyagi
On 2009-06-10 04:09:19, rule_breaker wrote:
Im just wondering if I should get black or white? My instincts say White by my brain says black!
J
Hmmm tough choice. They both look good. How about just tossing a coin then deciding
. Also I don't think they will be launching a £10" iPhone. They would have announced it am sure at the developers conference.
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
For me its not too expensive, id happily pay £175 for a 32GB iPod. My contract is up so dont have anything to pay off. Hopefully it wont be too difficult to get one on release day.
Posted by bavlondon2
If you are in your last month of your contract or you clear all the remaining months how much will an upgrade be?
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
I guess it the same price as buying it from scratch?
Posted by voda_jon
yeh the upgrade prices are the same as the new customer prices...
J.
Posted by bavlondon2
It really is ridiculous for existing customers. Whats the point of 18 and 24 month contracts when they have a 12 month refresh rate?
I was going to wait till xmas to upgrade but the way I see it why bother as then we will only be 6 months away from the 4th iphone!
To quote someone else
"o2's business plan is bad news for Apple as it will seriously dent sales figures for the 3GS"
I hope the iphone 3GS fails big time!
[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2009-06-10 11:32 ]
Posted by masseur
O2 are not going to be doing pre-orders on this one I've just been told
CPW, on the other hand, have apparantly confirmed (on pocketlint) that they will have pre-orders up at http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/iphone sometime today
Posted by RyaN
On 2009-06-10 15:30:05, masseur wrote:
O2 are not going to be doing pre-orders on this one I've just been told
Do O2 actually do anything to make the customer happy - at all? No pre-orders? Why, cos they're too imcompetent to get it right or something?
Posted by Nanu
On 2009-06-10 15:51:12, RyaN wrote:
On 2009-06-10 15:30:05, masseur wrote:
O2 are not going to be doing pre-orders on this one I've just been told
Do O2 actually do anything to make the customer happy - at all? No pre-orders? Why, cos they're too imcompetent to get it right or something?
I think O2 don't actually want to sell any of these, or at least it seems they are going out of their way to p*ss people off!
Posted by masseur
You hear such bad stuff about AT&T in US... I reckon O2 are taking a leaf out of AT&T's book, rather than it being the other way around! but at least O2 are offering the tethering which AT&T aren't!