Posted by Mizzle
I'm expecting a firmware update to allow touch screen use throughout the operating system.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2009-05-30 11:31:19, AK wrote:
Im not sure what it would feel like typing an SMS on the Aino, buy it looks like it would be a bit top-heavy.
That's what I thought. I love everything about this phone's style, bar the keypad and limited touch. I already occasionally found texting slightly awkward on the W910i (usually it was fine, but sometimes not), so this is looking to be a lot worse.
@Mizzle: I hope so. And I don't see why they wouldn't. Surely SE knows they've made a disabled phone.
Posted by Mizzle
Look at the menus - i.e. the settings menu. They've removed the tabbed overview and made it more "touchable" for a reason.
Posted by gola
Great news
Posted by se_love
On 2009-05-30 11:43:18, Mizzle wrote:
Look at the menus - i.e. the settings menu. They've removed the tabbed overview and made it more "touchable" for a reason.
Posted by Mizzle
Yup, that's how it works now. Oh, and we're still talking A2 afaik.
Posted by se_love
On 2009-05-30 11:51:51, Mizzle wrote:
Yup, that's how it works now. Oh, and we're still talking A2 afaik.
Yeah I just saw it. Amazing I liked it before cause it was all in one streamless thing but now its back and forth but that is much better. Much much better. And this is still A2 with some touch ups?! Oh dear god A3 must be amazing then.
Posted by Mizzle
A3 would have been a much more significant update.
Posted by se_love
On 2009-05-30 11:55:22, Mizzle wrote:
A3 would have been a much more significant update.
True true. But didn't A2 just bring fancy menus the call and end buttons and some minor tweaks?
Posted by Mizzle
A2 is still here, still being updated. I'd say there are quite a few differences from, say, a T650 and Aino.
Posted by se_love
On 2009-05-30 12:12:33, Mizzle wrote:
A2 is still here, still being updated. I'd say there are quite a few differences from, say, a T650 and Aino.
I know i know I meant like didn't A2 just bring that? But now it has the conversation style text messaging and now the settings and the walkman player are a bit tweaked. This is V4 for the walkman correct?
Posted by hihihans
A3 or A2 ? Whats better? New and buggy or old but redeveloped.
Posted by mediar
I don't like the new style of the settings menu. It's just like T630.
And does Walkman V4 have basic skin that looks like v3?
Posted by QVGA
This phone looks brilliant and very classy. Well done SE for this. Good stuff!
Posted by goldenface
On 2009-05-30 14:31:02, QVGA wrote:
This phone looks brilliant and very classy. Well done SE for this. Good stuff!
I agree. It such a new direction from the usual stuff. When Dicky said we will see some good high end stuff this year he came through. The design is a big PLUS. It has Sony written all over it.
On 2009-05-30 11:31:19, AK wrote:
I hate to be so negative (no I really do!) but I'm just incredibly dissapointed. I was hoping Sony Ericsson would give us the Western version of KDDI AU S001 with the 3'3" inch AMOLED screen and brilliant design (a classic and cool beauty compared to the Aino), instead we get this confused halfbreed.
You'd be surprised how the Japanese covet some of the Western stuff. Sony 'alpha' said they were impressed with our C905.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2009-05-30 13:38 ]
Posted by mobse
On 2009-05-30 11:31:19, AK wrote:
I was hoping Sony Ericsson would give us the Western version of KDDI AU S001 with the 3'3" inch AMOLED screen and brilliant design (a classic and cool beauty compared to the Aino), instead we get this confused halfbreed. Not quite a touchscreen phone, not quite a classic slider.
On 2009-05-30 14:31:02, QVGA wrote:
This phone looks brilliant and very classy. Well done SE for this. Good stuff!
The S001 is a sheer beauty. It is marketed as "The First Class" in Japan and that's for a reason. I would jump at the opportunity to get the likes of it.
However, the AINO is stunning too. Still I would trade the gimmicky PS3 integration (is that really a genuinely marketable feature in the first place...?) any minute for a front d-pad. Some of us don't fancy opening the phone to answer calls or do simple navigation tasks.
@Mizzle. If true, fuller touch integration is truly good news. Thanks!
[ This Message was edited by: mobse on 2009-05-30 13:56 ]
Posted by gola
If Aino is still A2, does that mean that the WM player of A2 phones such as the w995 can be updated to v4?
Posted by goldenface
On 2009-05-30 15:00:54, gola wrote:
If Aino is still A2, does that mean that the WM player of A2 phones such as the w995 can be updated to v4?
Its A3. Read back in the thread a bit.
Posted by se_love
On 2009-05-30 15:50:03, goldenface wrote:
On 2009-05-30 15:00:54, gola wrote:
If Aino is still A2, does that mean that the WM player of A2 phones such as the w995 can be updated to v4?
Its A3. Read back in the thread a bit.
Actually Miz said its A3. What is it? A2 A3 or A2.5?
Posted by Chico212
On 2009-05-30 14:54:59, mobse wrote:
On 2009-05-30 11:31:19, AK wrote:
I was hoping Sony Ericsson would give us the Western version of KDDI AU S001 with the 3'3" inch AMOLED screen and brilliant design (a classic and cool beauty compared to the Aino), instead we get this confused halfbreed. Not quite a touchscreen phone, not quite a classic slider.
On 2009-05-30 14:31:02, QVGA wrote:
This phone looks brilliant and very classy. Well done SE for this. Good stuff!
The S001 is a sheer beauty. It is marketed as "The First Class" in Japan and that's for a reason. I would jump at the opportunity to get the likes of it.
However, the AINO is stunning too. Still I would trade the gimmicky PS3 integration (is that really a genuinely marketable feature in the first place...?) any minute for a front d-pad. Some of us don't fancy opening the phone to answer calls or do simple navigation tasks.
@Mizzle. If true, fuller touch integration is truly good news. Thanks!
[ This Message was edited by: mobse on 2009-05-30 13:56 ]
for people which ps3 yes
Posted by se_love
On 2009-05-30 15:54:03, Chico212 wrote:
On 2009-05-30 14:54:59, mobse wrote:
On 2009-05-30 11:31:19, AK wrote:
I was hoping Sony Ericsson would give us the Western version of KDDI AU S001 with the 3'3" inch AMOLED screen and brilliant design (a classic and cool beauty compared to the Aino), instead we get this confused halfbreed. Not quite a touchscreen phone, not quite a classic slider.
On 2009-05-30 14:31:02, QVGA wrote:
This phone looks brilliant and very classy. Well done SE for this. Good stuff!
The S001 is a sheer beauty. It is marketed as "The First Class" in Japan and that's for a reason. I would jump at the opportunity to get the likes of it.
However, the AINO is stunning too. Still I would trade the gimmicky PS3 integration (is that really a genuinely marketable feature in the first place...?) any minute for a front d-pad. Some of us don't fancy opening the phone to answer calls or do simple navigation tasks.
@Mizzle. If true, fuller touch integration is truly good news. Thanks!
[ This Message was edited by: mobse on 2009-05-30 13:56 ]
for people which ps3 yes
So that would mean say about 20 people? *shot*
Posted by gola
Oh okay, thanks goldenface...
Posted by tranced
On 2009-05-30 15:52:03, se_love wrote:
Actually Miz said its A3. What is it? A2 A3 or A2.5?
it's the platform the phones work.
old phones are A100(aka a1. db2000, db2010, db2012 and db2020). C702, C905, W902, K850, etc. are A200(db3150 and db3210). these are A300, what mizzle wanted to say
Posted by mediar
So the A300 is still under developing?
One thing which desapionts me is that the a300 platform still doesn't support reading Xls and Doc files. Is it so difficult to add office pack in a phone,
?
Posted by 10123
Dont see the point in the PS3 integration thing, the whole idea behind the aino is so that you can store all your media one one device, why would you need to access it using another device, when you can supposodley store everything you want on the Aino?? If the aino really wanted the edge they should allow users to play games on there ps3 on there aino, although im sure once the Aino comes out some one will find away to modd the aino so that it can play games on the PS3.
Posted by TeknoBoi90
Reading this thread I'd say...
About the new full touch firmware I wouldn't be so optimistic, rarely they improved so much a phone after the announcement... For sure it would be a nice thing but, it's SE, you know...
I think that the tab settings were removed because of the 6th element introduced, the user guide (i remember i read somewhere SE would put only electronic manuals in phones to be more ecological) and not for the touch, but maybe I am wrong... However I liked tabbed settings, they were well arranged...
About the A3 discussion... Even if I'm not so informed, I have a different opinion... I know better the DB distinctions like DB3150, Db3210 etc, and for sure this is a new version of this platform but I don't know if it's possible to call it A3 or still A2... i.e. already the C905 had an upgraded platform but was referred to as A2... Some innovations are always there... (however the T650 was A1 not A2)
Last thing... Am I the only to see some W595 design elements in the Aino?! Maybe the colour??
[ This Message was edited by: TeknoBoi90 on 2009-05-30 18:27 ]
Posted by mediar
Yea, it looks like W595, because of the form is almost the same - in the both phones the bottom and the top parts go thiner and thiner. You can se this when you're watching the phone sideway.
Maybe the platform isn't A3. Why not to be updated A2 ( W910 => W760 => C905 => Aino)?
Posted by mobse
On 2009-05-30 18:54:21, TeknoBoi90 wrote:
Am I the only to see some W595 design elements in the Aino?! Maybe the colour??
The colour more or less, but the curvy edges surely ring the W595 bell.
As to the AINO PS3 connectivity, it sounds good without a doubt, seems to work, as shown in the Thurseday's presentation video, but my point is that many people who would otherwise consider the AINO may not own a PS3 and the fact that the phone sports such a feature will raise its price considerably. So, it may not be the hit
very much need to stay afloat, despite the handset's other features and good looks that could contribute to its success. They could have put a Xenon flash and a more touch friendly UI instead, which could have made it a true younger sibling of Satio with the well-loved feature phone interface, a lower price tag and consequently broader consumer target group.
Cheers!
[ This Message was edited by: mobse on 2009-05-30 18:54 ]
Posted by drgiorgio
Guys,
Does anyone knows what kind of cam sensor Aino uses?
Is it the new Exmor?
thnx
Posted by synn
On 2009-05-30 18:29:03, 10123 wrote:
Dont see the point in the PS3 integration thing, the whole idea behind the aino is so that you can store all your media one one device, why would you need to access it using another device, when you can supposodley store everything you want on the Aino?? If the aino really wanted the edge they should allow users to play games on there ps3 on there aino, although im sure once the Aino comes out some one will find away to modd the aino so that it can play games on the PS3.
Because a full length, BR quality movie would be several gigs in size and it'd be foolish to store it on a phone. The PS3 can hold all your media, the phone reads it, downsizes it on the fly and plays it.
PS3 level gameplay requires way more firepower than a phone can provide.
Guys,
Does anyone knows what kind of cam sensor Aino uses?
Is it the new Exmor?
thnx
Does anyone knows what kind of cam sensor Aino uses?
Is it the new Exmor?
thnx
Not 100% sure, but it seems to be the same module as the one in the C905/ W995. It wouldn't make financial sense to make 2 different modules for the same resolution. (The one in the C905 IS the 8MP Exmor).
[ This Message was edited by: synn on 2009-05-30 19:17 ]
Posted by drgiorgio
SYNN
Not 100% sure, but it seems to be the same module as the one in the C905/ W995. It wouldn't make financial sense to make 2 different modules for the same resolution. (The one in the C905 IS the 8MP Exmor).
[ This Message was edited by: synn on 2009-05-30 19:17 ]
Is it the new Exmor CMOS 8.1 megapixel? cos the new one would be available in feb 2009, so C905 can´t have it. and not forgeting that Aino takes VGA videos, but neither C905 nor W996 can.
So what do you think? does Aino have the new Exmor CMOS?
[ This Message was edited by: drgiorgio on 2009-05-30 19:46 ]
Posted by 10123
On 2009-05-30 19:34:20, mobse wrote:
On 2009-05-30 18:54:21, TeknoBoi90 wrote:
Am I the only to see some W595 design elements in the Aino?! Maybe the colour??
The colour more or less, but the curvy edges surely ring the W595 bell.
As to the AINO PS3 connectivity, it sounds good without a doubt, seems to work, as shown in the Thurseday's presentation video, but my point is that many people who would otherwise consider the AINO may not own a PS3 and the fact that the phone sports such a feature will raise its price considerably. So, it may not be the hit
very much need to stay afloat, despite the handset's other features and good looks that could contribute to its success. They could have put a Xenon flash and a more touch friendly UI instead, which could have made it a true younger sibling of Satio with the well-loved feature phone interface, a lower price tag and consequently broader consumer target group.
Cheers!
[ This Message was edited by: mobse on 2009-05-30 18:54 ]
Agree, imagine of Se gave it full integrations support with just Xbox 360 that would be a shocker
Posted by jj03
sweet child o mine! What a beautiful clean looking device...great spec too. . C'mon SE!!...good times will soon return!! I am stunned by this device. .simply gorgeous.
Posted by synn
On 2009-05-30 20:32:59, drgiorgio wrote:
SYNN
Not 100% sure, but it seems to be the same module as the one in the C905/ W995. It wouldn't make financial sense to make 2 different modules for the same resolution. (The one in the C905 IS the 8MP Exmor).
[ This Message was edited by: synn on 2009-05-30 19:17 ]
Is it the new Exmor CMOS 8.1 megapixel? cos the new one would be available in feb 2009, so C905 can´t have it. and not forgeting that Aino takes VGA videos, but neither C905 nor W996 can.
So what do you think? does Aino have the new Exmor CMOS?
[ This Message was edited by: drgiorgio on 2009-05-30 19:46 ]
http://www.slashphone.com/son[....]exmor-for-mobile-phones-143277
That's the announcement of commercial availability of the 12 MP Exmor (The smaller one next to it is the 8 MP one). Isn't that around when the C905 hit the shelves too? Someone with inside info can perhaps throw some light on this.
Also, Video recording doesn't have much to do with sensor design. Keep in mind that even a full HD video frame is several times smaller than 8 MP. It's more of a processor/ programming thingy.
Posted by drgiorgio
CMOS Image sensor ”IMX060PQ”
out in mars 2009, price 2,500 yen
Typ: 1/2.5, 12.25 megapixel
CMOS Image sensor ”IMX046PQ”
out in november 2008, price 1,500 yen
Typ: 1/3.2 8.11 megapixel
CMOS Image sensor ”IMX045PQ”
out in mars 2009, price 1,000 yen
Typ: 1/4, 5.15 megapixel
Lens module ”IU060F”
out in september 2009, price 9,000 yen
Typ: 1/2.5, 12.25 megapixel
Lens module ”IU046F”
out in februari 2009, price 5,000 yen
Typ: 1/3.2, 8.11 megapixel
http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1226699865.html
anyone knows??
[ This Message was edited by: drgiorgio on 2009-05-30 20:18 ]
Posted by hihihans
this is how I see it. Aino has A3 platform and Exmor module. Otherwise, what's the point of the changes SE is making. Different looks, Names instead of numbers and free loading dock. I think this is the first step of Ericsson leafing SE. I'll say: go for it sony!
Posted by se_love
On 2009-05-30 21:19:07, hihihans wrote:
this is how I see it. Aino has A3 platform and Exmor module. Otherwise, what's the point of the changes SE is making. Different looks, Names instead of numbers and free loading dock. I think this is the first step of Ericsson leafing SE. I'll say: go for it sony!
Doubt it. They will stay together forever and ever.
Posted by drgiorgio
On 2009-05-30 20:59:15, synn wrote:
Also, Video recording doesn't have much to do with sensor design. Keep in mind that even a full HD video frame is several times smaller than 8 MP. It's more of a processor/ programming thingy.
Yes Synn, i know that, but i think it has to do with the hardware and propriety of the cam module too.
Posted by synn
On 2009-05-30 21:19:07, hihihans wrote:
this is how I see it. Aino has A3 platform and Exmor module. Otherwise, what's the point of the changes SE is making. Different looks, Names instead of numbers and free loading dock. I think this is the first step of Ericsson leafing SE. I'll say: go for it sony!
Right.
It's not like they announced Playstation integration or anything...
Why do people revel in doomsday predictions? Why can't we just be normal consumers for once?
Posted by se_love
On 2009-05-30 21:23:41, synn wrote:
On 2009-05-30 21:19:07, hihihans wrote:
this is how I see it. Aino has A3 platform and Exmor module. Otherwise, what's the point of the changes SE is making. Different looks, Names instead of numbers and free loading dock. I think this is the first step of Ericsson leafing SE. I'll say: go for it sony!
Right.
It's not like they announced Playstation integration or anything...
Why do people revel in doomsday predictions? Why can't we just be normal consumers for once?
Because it takes a couple of months with the fanboys of SE to finally stop making it seem liike for SE the shit hit the fan. Seriously this is getting a tad out of hand. To me at least SE has just redeemed themselves quite well and with an announcement next week of possibly non EU phones for the summer some more redeeming can be done. Up until now no shit has hit the fan. And I doubt we will ever get to that point for a while.
Posted by korbindallis
please every body, Sony Ericsson is no Motorola thank God for that and aino rocks it should be a fast UI just like all other A series phones
[ This Message was edited by: korbindallis on 2009-05-30 21:15 ]
Posted by se_love
On 2009-05-30 22:14:39, korbindallis wrote:
please every body, Sony Ericsson is no Motorola thank God for that and aino rocks it should be a fast UI just like all other A series phones
[ This Message was edited by: korbindallis on 2009-05-30 21:15 ]
SE right now for me is a bit of Samsung or possibly LG. Of yesteryear not now.
Posted by Mizzle
I said A2 and that's what I meant.
Posted by se_love
See I knew it. It is A2. So whatever A3 would be if it comes it would something great. Just look at how fresh A2 looks.
Posted by bodeh6
A2 with JP 8.5 looks amazing. So fresh compared to my K850i.
[ This Message was edited by: bodeh6 on 2009-05-30 23:45 ]
Posted by 10123
On 2009-05-31 00:44:59, bodeh6 wrote:
A2 with JP 8.5 looks amazing. So fresh compared to my K850i.
[ This Message was edited by: bodeh6 on 2009-05-30 23:45 ]
How can you say that yet, i havent seen any in depth screen shots of the aino, such as messaging etc, seems like typical A200 to me with an updated media and a nice flash theme.
Posted by Hiron
It's still A2... Maybe because the security is still DB3210? Still can be accessed with A2uploader, I thought
Err... Does it has Clear Audio or not? Front page says it has, but in hands-on, we only see "Equalizer" and "Stereo Widening", can someone clarify this? I already ask this question before...
Hiron
Posted by Platia1
So
Is there an API built-in for third party programs to utilise the touch-screen?
Or did they really stuff up and leave it out?
If they make everything touchable this could be the perfect phone for me, but only making the Internet Browser touchable or atleast letting other programs use it's Touch screen is acceptable as well
Posted by oddie k750
Please help me get this straight- this phone is PHYSICALLY ABLE to use it's touch sreen for basically anything including multitouch??? Tell me how hard would it be to make the software to run this? It's not like se would be the first to try such a feat...
Don't get me wrong though, I love this phone in other aspects, although one more con I'd add would be the screen resolution...
edit: oops-somehow missed Mizzle's post. But still- does anuone know about multitouch? Still not going to beat the iphone screenwise, new gen to have double the 3g's resolution- when will the iphone bullies stop picking on me??
[ This Message was edited by: oddie k750 on 2009-05-31 10:13 ]
Posted by gola
Okay, so it's A2, anyone care to answer this question... Mizzle perhaps? Anyone?
On 2009-05-30 15:00:54, gola wrote:
If Aino is still A2, does that mean that the WM player of A2 phones such as the w995 can be updated to v4?
[ This Message was edited by: gola on 2009-05-31 10:28 ]