Posted by se_dude
if there had been any major problems, it would be known.At least in this forum.
Posted by anonymuser
On 2009-11-26 18:03:04, se_dude wrote:
if there had been any major problems, it would be known.At least in this forum.
But yet there are, and apparently it wasn't. What else is there to say? SE pulled their own phone for a laugh?
Posted by 10123
On 2009-11-26 17:46:07, snoFlake wrote:
Do you think just maybe there could be something behind the "negative publicity" or is it part of the world-wide anti SE conspiracy? Maybe Eldar put UK leading phone reatilers Carphone Warehouse and phones4u and industry insiders magazine "Mobile Today" up to it as part of his anti SE master plan.
What's needed clearly is more positive advertising and PR spend from SE on top of their giant budget much better spent on positive "spin" rather than developing phones and services.
Ermmmm..... you have a point......well no! Looking a bit too deep into it, the N97 has been withdrawn from vodafone and it has been reported, and seen as the Satio is doing so well it is very likley the phone will be reported on. Not too fussed about the aino, no one bought it in the first place.
Posted by kits
On 2009-11-26 17:34:08, se_dude wrote:
yes, boiing, you are right.Wont be long for SE to get it all right.
if you ask me, SE is getting too much negative publicity. I dont think any one in this forum has had any problems with the Aino. Have they?
The problems I have are several:
1. The phones gets really really slow when I use conversation and have a conversation that has 10+ conversations. I changed the settings to save messages on phone memory instead of SC card and it helped a little.
2. Phone sometimes goes blank and comes back again. I think it's struggling to get memory resources or something. Will cool apps like Facebook and Twitter on standby screen SE should have spent a few $$ to add more RAM to improve performance.
3. The lock button design is terrible. It should have been a tight slider button or something. In one week I ran into several situations where I started to hear music from my pocket as the phone got unlocked and touch mode started to play music.
4. You will never want to talk on this phone with slider closed as you will accidently touch the call end button with your ear and get disconnected. Even when you use bluetooth you want to make sure you don't have the phone in your pocket as it will result in call getting disconnected.
I thought LG Cookie which is a $130 phone lately is utter crap. But that is because of LG software. Aino is worse than that even though it has the great SE software. They messed up how the touch is implemented for locking and call handling.
Posted by MBrostroem
My friend has an Aino, I have not opened mine yet.
He has had it for a week and heīs very happy with it.
The lagging sometimes in "ConverSATIOns"
..is something Iīve noticed in my C905 also.
My C905 is probably the most bug-free phone Iīve owned. No issues what so ever! (Donīt use the above)
I think there is so little patiens, if there is some minor bugs (Like "Convers..) Iīd say that it works really great!
The Aino is a really really great device, much better than my Symbian-based Satio.. (Love the camera though;) ..and I canīt understand why anyone would say that it sucks and is bad in all aspects..!?
Some complain that it isnīt a fulltime touchscreen, why donīt you look at another device?
I think the Aino is perfect for me, (the Xenon flash from C905 or Satio would be great)
When you listen around the complaints are really ridiculos sometimes.
The buttons are too small, the buttons are too large, the screen isnīt OLED..? (Why does that matter? Yes I know the difference.)
Name a phone and I can promise a long list of cons on any phone you can come up with, itīs just a matter of the need to whine IMO..
Canīt wait to open mine, but Iīve promised myself to finish some important work first..
..at least I get to play with my friends phone.. 
Posted by kits
The main reason I got Aino is because it has large screen for non-touch. I don't care for touch screen. My main problems with it is how it gets unlocked and starts playing music. As a work around, I browse photos and then lock it. This way I am at least protected from music playing when I am in some meeting. But the main problem is to talk with slider open as with slider closed I end up touch the call end button so many times. With new firmware they should come up with something like iPhone has. While on call I can press the lock key and the phones stays locked while I am on call. I love the Facebook and Twitter apps on standby screen but can't use them because they make the phone act very slow when I can next text messages. I almost can't open the message sometimes for a minute.
My son uses C905 and I have to say that phone may not look great but the damn thing is holding very good even with his rough use and the slider still feels solid after almost 5 months. I just noticed how his phone also feels laggy when he gets several SMS on the conversations screen. Too bad he never uses SMS and so never told me. But I never noticed this problem on W995.
On 2009-11-26 21:01:53, MBrostroem wrote:
My friend has an Aino, I have not opened mine yet.
He has had it for a week and heīs very happy with it.
The lagging sometimes in "ConverSATIOns"
..is something Iīve noticed in my C905 also.
My C905 is probably the most bug-free phone Iīve owned. No issues what so ever! (Donīt use the above)
I think there is so little patiens, if there is some minor bugs (Like "Convers..) Iīd say that it works really great!
The Aino is a really really great device, much better than my Symbian-based Satio.. (Love the camera though;) ..and I canīt understand why anyone would say that it sucks and is bad in all aspects..!?
Some complain that it isnīt a fulltime touchscreen, why donīt you look at another device?
I think the Aino is perfect for me, (the Xenon flash from C905 or Satio would be great)
When you listen around the complaints are really ridiculos sometimes.
The buttons are too small, the buttons are too large, the screen isnīt OLED..? (Why does that matter? Yes I know the difference.)
Name a phone and I can promise a long list of cons on any phone you can come up with, itīs just a matter of the need to whine IMO..
Canīt wait to open mine, but Iīve promised myself to finish some important work first..
..at least I get to play with my friends phone..
Posted by Bonovox
That lag with the conversations thing happens in other Sony Ericsson phones too
Posted by pt020
Here in holland it still goes strong
todays newspaper
(deal is for 2 years + 200min a month free)
Posted by RikkeJules
Hey guys, i'm new to this forum, and this is my first post, so hey!
I just wanted to say, that i've actually not seen a single Satio commercial here in Denmark, but I see commercials for the Aino VERY often.. So it's almost the other way around here.
I just stumbles across a review of the Aino on a danish site posted about a week ago, where they call the Aino the best Sony Ericsson phone in a long time, and give it a 9/10.
I'm still waiting to get my Aino, and have been for a month, but should finally get it sometime next week. I hope that my experience with this phone will be positive as it has been for a lot of you.
This is the link to the video review (danish) of the aino, dunno how to link properly, so sorry.
http://webtv.comon.dk/alle/Sony-Ericsson-Aino-1.247527.html
Posted by Bonovox
I just downloaded the Aino theme for my c902. Its a lovely theme
Posted by domipost
With flash menu?
Link please
Posted by Bonovox
It does not come out as flash on my c902 but its got the nice animated coloured balls. I got it from www.myc902.lasyk.net
Posted by Platia1
New firmware update incoming with following changelog!
11-26-2009
New software available soon
New software will soon be available for your phone. The latest software which is not yet released, will include improvements such as:
Improved touch performance
Improvements of performance and general stability
Lower power consumption
Improved WLAN and Bluetooth function performance
WLAN improvement - Media Home can now transfer large files
Improved GPS performance
New software available soon
New software will soon be available for your phone. The latest software which is not yet released, will include improvements such as:
Improved touch performance
Improvements of performance and general stability
Lower power consumption
Improved WLAN and Bluetooth function performance
WLAN improvement - Media Home can now transfer large files
Improved GPS performance
Awesome!
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/support/phones/aino?cc=ae&lc=en
Hopefully Media Home will be able to transfer Album Art with the music files (I am currently unable to do this with the Media Home via WiFi, if someone has it working could you let me know?)
[ This Message was edited by: Platia1 on 2009-11-29 08:04 ]
Posted by Mano82
Wowww Good news Platia1
Have waited for it very long... Hope it will fix sloo-problems as well.
Posted by >500
bargain! only $499aud here now!
https://shop.allphones.com.au[....]anufacturer:eq:SONY%20ERICSSON
Posted by Platia1
My Aino is being a real pain in the arse, this new firmware update can not come soon enough
Anyway
Opera Mini 5 Beta 2 is now available, The D-Pad now works! (no reason to use Opera Mini 4.2)
Posted by mediar
What's the changelog for OM beta 2?
Posted by m2kk
Any ideas what happened to the code(password) store app? Stored all my useful codes in it when I had my w880. Anyone has any java based replacement suggestions?
Another thing I noticed that WalkMate was in the apps list in the initial press release but now it has dissapeared.
Posted by Mano82
I hope new firmaware is around the corner
for central europe, it's available now
U10 CENTRAL-EUROPE CDF1233-4904 R7AA071
Posted by Platia1
On 2009-12-02 11:13:00, Mano82 wrote:
I hope new firmaware is around the corner
for central europe, it's available now
U10 CENTRAL-EUROPE CDF1233-4904 R7AA071
Where did you get this info from? Release number is strange
Nonetheless, very much looking forward to this
Posted by makato
For those of you with a white aino, do you find that the white model was geared towards women with the pink on the sides? I myself think the white model is pretty nice but is that pink hue really noticeable? I'm guessing it is really faint and depends on the lighting more than anything. How cheap do you guys think the price is going to be after Christmas time? I'm looking at purchasing one soon since my 2006 Samsung phone is crapping out on me. It doesn't really make sense to keep a phone that can't make phone calls but can only receive eh?
I am really leaning towards the aino but the $450 ish price tag is kind of making me hesitant.[ This Message was edited by: makato on 2009-12-02 12:33 ]
Posted by kits
I just noticed Touch interface works for Gmail app. Are thei any other Java apps like Opera Mini 5 Beta, and Gmail where touch interface works?
Posted by m2kk
Just installed the new software - haven't noticed anything (I didn't have much problems to begin with just some general slowness from while to while)
But yes, the touch works on gmail, bu the menus are too small to use with fingers. I noticed that the touch works on mgmaps as well.
Posted by goldenface
Aino Is Here To Stay.
It seems the story about Aino being pulled from stores is just a nasty rumour.
Aino is here to stay.
Posted by m2kk
One thing that has changed with the new firmware:
You can't play audio from the main touch menu anymore. Clicking on the bottom of the screen on the bar where the battery and network indicators are doesn't bring up the audio player. And when you have an audio file playing the bar doesn't glow red anymore. I guess this is to not have audio start playing when the phone is in your pocket. So now to be able to do anything in the touch menu you have to slide it open. A good thing if you ask me
[ This Message was edited by: m2kk on 2009-12-02 15:03 ]
Posted by kits
On 2009-12-02 16:01:40, m2kk wrote:
One thing that has changed with the new firmware:
You can't play audio from the main touch menu anymore. Clicking on the bottom of the screen on the bar where the battery and network indicators are doesn't bring up the audio player. And when you have an audio file playing the bar doesn't glow red anymore. I guess this is to not have audio start playing when the phone is in your pocket. So now to be able to do anything in the touch menu you have to slide it open. A good thing if you ask me
[ This Message was edited by: m2kk on 2009-12-02 15:03 ]
HAHAHA! Solves one problem for me. 2 more to go.
1. Should be able to lock the phone while on call so the "Call End" button is not accidentally touched. Happens a lot while talking with slider closed or with phone in pocket while talking handsfree. Good idea will be to AGAIN disable touch for ending a call
.
2. Improve performance for Conversation view.
Posted by m2kk
On 2009-12-02 16:27:45, kits wrote:
HAHAHA! Solves one problem for me. 2 more to go.
1. Should be able to lock the phone while on call so the "Call End" button is not accidentally touched. Happens a lot while talking with slider closed or with phone in pocket while talking handsfree. Good idea will be to AGAIN disable touch for ending a call
.
The light sensor works really well for me and locks the phone when the slider is closed and in a call. It even works when the phone is pressed to the ear. Was this feature not included in the previous software?
[ This Message was edited by: m2kk on 2009-12-02 15:48 ]
Posted by angryman
On 2009-12-02 16:27:45, kits wrote:
On 2009-12-02 16:01:40, m2kk wrote:
1. Should be able to lock the phone while on call so the "Call End" button is not accidentally touched. Happens a lot while talking with slider closed or with phone in pocket while talking handsfree. Good idea will be to AGAIN disable touch for ending a call
.
2. Improve performance for Conversation view.
For End Call, wouldn't it be a better option to make the end call tab slide? Like when you answer the phone you have to slide your finger on the answer call tab.
1 feature I would like is having the volume button bring up the clock when pressed if the phone is closed, as it is it does nothing unless the slider is open.
Posted by Mano82
On 2009-12-02 13:11:28, Platia1 wrote:
Where did you get this info from? Release number is strange
Nonetheless, very much looking forward to this
From: http://seusdb.10001mb.com/
Posted by Mano82
On 2009-12-02 13:24:49, makato wrote:
For those of you with a white aino, do you find that the white model was geared towards women with the pink on the sides? I myself think the white model is pretty nice but is that pink hue really noticeable? I'm guessing it is really faint and depends on the lighting more than anything.
I've white Aino, i've owned it 1 month now, not a single person has noticed that "pink" sides, not even me
I just read on a site that it changes colour with light conditions, then i noticed it. it's not pink, but in room light it looks like pink, but it's noticeable at all. It may be green or any other colour with diff light conditions
Posted by Mano82
On 2009-12-02 15:54:35, m2kk wrote:
Just installed the new software - haven't noticed anything (I didn't have much problems to begin with just some general slowness from while to while)
But yes, the touch works on gmail, bu the menus are too small to use with fingers. I noticed that the touch works on mgmaps as well.
m2kk, what about speed? is it improved or still slow? is Camera improved?
Posted by kits
On 2009-12-02 16:47:44, m2kk wrote:
The light sensor works really well for me and locks the phone when the slider is closed and in a call. It even works when the phone is pressed to the ear. Was this feature not included in the previous software?
[ This Message was edited by: m2kk on 2009-12-02 15:48 ]
The light sensor is located to suit the right handers (right ear). It's more bothering when it's in pocket. Anyway, I decided to return this phone.
Posted by pt020
hahahaha you guys walk with pink phones ..... oops sorry
Posted by m2kk
On 2009-12-02 18:12:01, Mano82 wrote:
On 2009-12-02 15:54:35, m2kk wrote:
Just installed the new software - haven't noticed anything (I didn't have much problems to begin with just some general slowness from while to while)
But yes, the touch works on gmail, bu the menus are too small to use with fingers. I noticed that the touch works on mgmaps as well.
m2kk, what about speed? is it improved or still slow? is Camera improved?
Seems a bit better but not that much different. Opera mini 5 is clearly faster(multiple tabs open faster etc.) but this might be down to switching to beta 2 the same time I updated the phone firmware.
I'm not a very keen picture taker - so can't comment on the camera.
Posted by RikkeJules
@m2kk
Sorry, but am i getting this right? You can't use the touch menu without having to open the phone?
but that's just.. stupid! do you have to have the keyboard slid out when browing the touch menu in horisontal mode?
hope i'm misunderstanding this..
Posted by m2kk
On 2009-12-02 21:42:25, RikkeJules wrote:
@m2kk
Sorry, but am i getting this right? You can't use the touch menu without having to open the phone?
but that's just.. stupid! do you have to have the keyboard slid out when browing the touch menu in horisontal mode?
hope i'm misunderstanding this..
nononono
I meant the unlocking on the touch menu. Its like a slider on the screen you have to move to get to the camera, pictures, audio, video etc...
On the previous software you could play audio files just tapping the bottom of the screen - that has gone. Now to do anything you have to unlock it first.
[ This Message was edited by: m2kk on 2009-12-02 22:01 ]
Posted by hihihans
Hmm I had to slide all the time (I think) anyway I'll charge tonight and update tomorrow together with OM5b2
On 2009-12-02 20:06:29, pt020 wrote:
hahahaha you guys walk with pink phones ..... oops sorry
He! I've got a pink car too!
Posted by RikkeJules
On 2009-12-02 22:59:20, m2kk wrote:
On 2009-12-02 21:42:25, RikkeJules wrote:
@m2kk
Sorry, but am i getting this right? You can't use the touch menu without having to open the phone?
but that's just.. stupid! do you have to have the keyboard slid out when browing the touch menu in horisontal mode?
hope i'm misunderstanding this..
nononono
I meant the unlocking on the touch menu. Its like a slider on the screen you have to move to get to the camera, pictures, audio, video etc...
On the previous software you could play audio files just tapping the bottom of the screen - that has gone. Now to do anything you have to unlock it first.
[ This Message was edited by: m2kk on 2009-12-02 22:01 ]
OH, sorry, I get it now.. thanks! : D
Posted by Tail
I just noticed one thing about the new fw, there is no facebook. It's gone
Posted by m2kk
I think there is some other stuff missing from the applications as well. But there is a new game
(LocoRoco)
Posted by kits
On 2009-12-03 09:58:42, Tail wrote:
I just noticed one thing about the new fw, there is no facebook. It's gone
They must have removed it because it makes the phone very laggy as it becomes standby application randomly even when we don't launch it when the phone randomly restarts. It happened to my phone couple of times. It's like Facebook app automatically starts and shows up in standby mode.
Posted by hihihans
You can always install facebook self.
It was my way to see if Aino had a restart.
Posted by Tail
Where can i find facebook for Aino?
Posted by martinbickley
Facebook is still showing under Applications on mine.
Current software version: -
1223-3004
R77AA071
Martin
Posted by Tail
Strange, it's gone here.
Is there a way to reinstall facebook?
Posted by Ricky D
Does anyone know if the camera driver was updated?
I forgot to check before I flashed, but the R7A camera driver is version 6.8 on my HK Generic aino.
Posted by Tail
Are there more people that are missing facebook in the new fw?
Posted by Tail
Strange, it's gone here.
Is there a way to reinstall facebook?
Posted by martinbickley
I've also noticed that since the upgrade my texts are automatically going to conversations, which they did not do before.
Martin
[ This Message was edited by: martinbickley on 2009-12-03 13:21 ]
Posted by Ricky D
My facebook app is still there, personally I'd like rid of it.
The touchscreen seems more responsive now. Still a little inaccurate but that's the technology rather than the software.
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