Posted by nicv27
I am about to buy either a Sony A350 or a Canon eos 450d. as a replacement for my Sony a200. I have bought every magazine on the market and watched all the reviews i can, but i am still undecided.
Any help would be appreciated especially if you own either of these dSLR`S
Thanks
Posted by fatreg
Canon.
end of.
Posted by weirdwilli
Personally I'd go with the A350
Posted by thomas93
As Reg said Canon.
All the proffesionals I know use Canon, and swear by it.
Posted by gaming_guy
canon here as well
(providing that you dont have any sony lenses as they wont be compatible with the canon)
[ This Message was edited by: gaming_guy on 2009-03-15 13:42 ]
Posted by Nanu
I have a Sony a200, but if money wasn't an issue I would have a Canon!
Posted by arien617
Canon, naturally.
Massive choices of Canon, and third party lenses and a quality product from a company that has been around making cameras for 60+ years.
Posted by fatreg
On 2009-03-15 14:41:22, gaming_guy wrote:
(providing that you dont have any sony lenses as they wont be compatible with the canon)
[ This Message was edited by: gaming_guy on 2009-03-15 13:42 ]
you can get one of this
Posted by thomas93
Reggie am I right in saying you lose your AF system with them?
Posted by fatreg
Mais non, they even let the Minolta (or Sony) focus to infinity!
[ This Message was edited by: fatreg on 2009-03-15 14:53 ]
Posted by QVGA
sony for point and shoot.
canon for DSLR
Posted by fatreg
Actually, I might be lying, you may lose AF but anyone that can use a DSLR should be able to focus!!
Posted by thomas93
Thats what I meant
Thomas 1 - 0 Reggie
Posted by nicv27
Thanks for all the reples looks like Canon it is
Posted by Berry
Or Nikon.
I know many who use Nikon.
(p.s. I was on their Pro Team too)
Having said that i use Canon now
[ This Message was edited by: Berry on 2009-03-15 21:35 ]
Posted by jcwhite_uk
IMO:
Pro Sony:
Use your existing Sony Lenses
Higher Megapixel (doesnt necessarily mean better pictures though).
Keep your existing Memory cards (450D uses SD)
Lenses dont need image stabalisation as its build into the body meaning cheaper lenses.
Moveable live view screen
Cheaper.
Lighter.
Faster AF in Live View
Pro Canon:
Higher ISO range
More lenses available
More lenses available on Ebay
USM lenses
Can connext to computer to shoot pictures (Ithink it can anyway).
Higher FPS rate (2.5 on Sony 3.5 on Canon).
If you arent too worried about cost then go for the 450D, overall it is the better camera but dont under estimate the Sony.
I am using a Sony A300 (a A350 with 10MP instead of 14MP) and love it. One really useful feature is it focuses automatically when you put your eye upto the viewfinder (not when in live view) so it is already focused before you press the button. this is a geature that my friend with with his new 40D likes.
[ This Message was edited by: jcwhite_uk on 2009-03-15 21:47 ]
Posted by Berry
Whilst i agree with a varied market. I think like mosst industries there are leaders and followers.
Surely you would want to get the leading camera for your money. Nikon and Canon are the leaders - even Minolta have fallen back.
I know the arguement will be about funds possibly at these mid-ranged placed camera.
Whenever i am asked about recommedations on a camera, i always point in the direction of Canon / Nikon.
Just my opinion though.
Posted by nicv27
Within reason funds aren't a major issue, i am not going to spend thousands but a couple of hundred extra would be ok the reason I chose these cameras is because of the reviews I have read & watched and because it seemed the natural progression after my a200. I also considered the a700
Posted by Berry
40D is very good but i do prefer the Nikon equivalent D300 (shame its over priced)
but the D60 is not as good as the Canon 450D.
Ooh this confusing
Posted by fatreg
And if anyone knows about cameras it's berry....
Posted by jcwhite_uk
On 2009-03-15 22:51:41, Berry wrote:
Surely you would want to get the leading camera for your money. Nikon and Canon are the leaders - even Minolta have fallen back.
Minolta havent fallen back, they left the digital camera market in 2006 and the digital SLR arm was bought by Sony. The Sony Alpha range was born from Minoltas digital range and at the budget end of DSLRs are gaining sales ground on Canon and Nikon. The Sonys can use most of the lenses and flashes that Minolta made later on.
[ This Message was edited by: jcwhite_uk on 2009-03-15 23:58 ]
Posted by deluded
@nicv27, since you've mentioned that you did consider the A700, I'd say go for it if you're intending to stick with the Alpha. The A350 isn't that much of an upgrade from your A200. The A700 has more to offer and picture quality is noticeably better. The A700 is using a CMOS sensor which offers better noise control.
Also, the advantage of getting the A700 is that you can use your current lenses without needing any adaptors.
Posted by fatreg
On 2009-03-16 00:52:46, jcwhite_uk wrote:
The Sonys can use most of the lenses and flashes that Minolta made later on.
I was told any lens from 73/4 can be used?
Posted by Berry
On 2009-03-16 00:52:46, jcwhite_uk wrote:
On 2009-03-15 22:51:41, Berry wrote:
Surely you would want to get the leading camera for your money. Nikon and Canon are the leaders - even Minolta have fallen back.
Minolta havent fallen back, they left the digital camera market in 2006 and the digital SLR arm was bought by Sony. The Sony Alpha range was born from Minoltas digital range and at the budget end of DSLRs are gaining sales ground on Canon and Nikon. The Sonys can use most of the lenses and flashes that Minolta made later on.
[ This Message was edited by: jcwhite_uk on 2009-03-15 23:58 ]
I know JC but they will never be a leader in my opinion.
Maybe on a consumer level they have gained ground, but my comments are made on my experience.
You never see anything but Canon or Nikon in the professional field.
Posted by jcwhite_uk
I never said that Sony was at professional level just saying that Minolta hadn't really gone away but had been reborn as Sony. Also have never seen a 450D used by professionals only things like 40Ds and 5D MKII's.
Posted by nicv27
When i buy the camera this weekend i aim to buy a macbook also, i guess all of these cameras work ok with apple macs as a lifelong windows user just thought i had better check first.
Thanks
Posted by jcwhite_uk
The software supplied with my A300 (same software as A350) says it works with Mac OSX 10.1.3 or later.
Posted by Berry
So whats the choice Nic?
Sure you dont want to come down to TN to have a go on the EOS1n MkIII?
Posted by nicv27
^ I'd love too but unfortunately i have to work this weekend and the Olympics won't build theirself. With Regards to camera choice I think it will be the Canon Eos 450d(I think I have made up mind now) and a new mac book to edit the pictures on after.
Thanks for all the advice it's been much appreciated
Posted by arien617
You'll want Aperture 2 to go on that MacBook.
And a quick tip, avoid the Regent Street store.
Go to the Westfield one, it's decently big and nowhere near as crowded as Regent St.
Posted by nicv27
^ thanks for the info. I was told by a friend that Argos are doing the MacBook a little cheaper than the Apple stores or currys Comet etc so I might have to look about
Thanks
Posted by amnesia
why isn't a Nikon D90 on your list?
Posted by Berry
On 2009-03-18 16:11:27, amnesia wrote:
why isn't a Nikon D90 on your list?
Yay - another Nikon person
Posted by Dups!
Sony is quite behind Canon and Nikon in dslrs. Of the two you're better off with the Canon. Having said that though, I used to be a Canon man myself until I tried the Nikon D200. I ended buying it and I don't seem to be that interested in Canon anymore. Do also try out the Nikon D900 and see which appeals to you.
[ This Message was edited by: EMS06 on 2009-03-18 16:42 ]
Posted by jcwhite_uk
Heres a review of bothe the 450D and A350:
Canon:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/re[....]450d-dslr-digital-camera.phtml
Sony:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/re[....]Alpha-350-digital-camera.phtml
Posted by amnesia
reviews of the D90 state that it's better than the canon in many aspects, even the iso is like 3 times more than the canon
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2009-03-17 22:09:37, nicv27 wrote:
I think it will be the Canon Eos 450d(I think I have made up mind now)
Nice one. I have a 450D and while I admit I don't know a hell of a lot about cameras, I can pretty much guarantee you won't be disappointed with it.
On 2009-03-18 17:37:56, EMS06 wrote:
Sony is quite behind Canon and Nikon in dslrs. Of the two you're better off with the Canon.
Not meaning to say you're wrong or anything, but I was at my local camera shop the other day talking to the most expert guy there, he told me that Sony was generally pretty up there in terms of technology, and comparing to an equivalent Canon, you're paying several hundred dollars less. Dunno how much truth there is in that though.
[ This Message was edited by: Muhammad-Oli on 2009-03-19 05:50 ]
Posted by frankthetank
If image quality is your thing, buy a 450D body only and a Canon 50mm f1.4 lens, or the 17-85mm IS USM (Depending how and what you shoot) and start from there, you will not be disappointed. Kit lenses are a waste of money - buy good glass.
I prefer to go by dpreview as far as camera equipment reviews go it is top notch
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydslra350/page17.asp
The winner is obviously the Canon, and this mostly due to the difference between CMOS and CCD sensors I believe, the Sony has higher res and built in Steadyshot, the Canon better image quality at higher ISO so higher shutter speeds can be used to reduce camera shake
The Sony can utilise Minolta AF lenses (Sony bought Minolta out and rebadged their technology and use their propietrary Alpha mount)
[ This Message was edited by: frankthetank on 2009-03-20 07:15 ]
Posted by nicv27
Right today is the day I am off to buy the camera if I am honest I still don't know which one I am going to get. I was pretty much decided it would be either the Canon or the Sony but my brother in law has just bought the Nikon d60 and hasn't stopped going on about how good it is.
Posted by nicv27
Just a bit of an update i bought the a350 and instead of the Macbook i bought a Vaio also. I had always been happy with my a200 and i know that a lot of people voted for Canon, but i guess i was just happy with the Alpha range.
... And also i got such a good price for the Camera and the Vaio it would have ben criminal to refuse it
Posted by thomas93
Well theres nothing wrong with Sony's, just canon have such an ace reputation
I nearly got an a200 once too.
But man you should of got the mac
Posted by nicv27
^ i love my Vaio. i will get the mac but probably later in the year.