Posted by Mizzle
It does not utilize a GPS, but instead makes use of the cell ID info.
Posted by NightBlade
Exactly.
Posted by Mr Miyagi
Oh great thanks guy's. I am so excited about this phone.anyone else excited like me? Lets hope its april and not May. Even tho its a month after april. I can't wait.this is nice timing this information. Its going to be great this phone
sony ericsson makes the best phone's ever. I think i will miss my k850i when i get this new phone. But i will keep my trusty somewhat problematic k850 which i love too.[ This Message was edited by: Mr Miyagi on 2009-02-10 21:22 ]
Posted by Bhavv
I cant see the excitment over this phone. It is hardly an improvement over the K850i, wow, its just a rubbish little thinner!
Still only 2.2" screen, no wifi or GPS, and will it have VGA 30 FPS recording?
Comeon
, get serious and competitive! Both the LG secret and Renoir are already ahead of this phone and they look better with larger screens! And the LG KM900 arena is out this month and it beats everysingle model that have right now, and on top of that, Samsung have even better models!
If
keep this up, they wont even be a top 5 manufacturer next year, and a few years from now they will be out of business.
I am fed up of this same crap from
again and again.
Posted by driftmania
On 2009-02-10 21:42:55, Mr Miyagi wrote:
I am happy with this phone. I don't need wifi as I have HSDPA internet speed wherever I go. I don't need GPS, as I believe that drains the battery a lot, and nothing is better than a purpose built GPS Sat Nav. And about 3G video calling. I only ever used it once on my K850, never used it again. So overall this phone is going to be amazing
Is this phone as thick as the K850i? Does anyone know? or is the thickness the same as the C902?
[ This Message was edited by: Mr Miyagi on 2009-02-10 20:43 ]
The GPS only drains battery when it's in use and I doubt it really drains the battery that bad.
Posted by se_dude
@bhavv- Umm.. the renoir is a flagship LG andcosts round 600 euros here. This phone is not gonna cross 300 euros. Think before saying.
Posted by puestadelsol
I'm really excited about this phone too. But I have to realise that after 1,5 years this phone has compromises too -for example the annoying lack of the front camera (like the case of c905, c903, t700). I can't understand whats's the point when the decide which of the phones get front camera... But I would buy this phone just if it will takes better photos than my k850, with vivid colours. I would buy this phone for summer, so if by the time I realise that it's camera isn't that impressive, I could wait for the models which will have been announced untill summer, but that would be Sonyericsson's last chance for me. It would be sad, because I always had just Ericsson than Sonyericsson phones.
Posted by Bhavv
On 2009-02-11 03:00:52, se_dude wrote:
@bhavv- Umm.. the renoir is a flagship LG andcosts round 600 euros here. This phone is not gonna cross 300 euros. Think before saying.
LG Secret is better then this handset and cheaper. LG Renoir is better then C905 and maybe cheaper. I wasnt comparing the C901 to the Renoir, it was a general observation that even LG, as well as Samsung and Nokia now have better products then SE do.
SE phones are actually more expensive and poorer specified then the competition.
I already have every K series SE phone plus a T700, Im not going to waste my next upgrade on an identical but different looking handset.
I need something innovating and new, SE dont do innovation anymore. Wake me up when they come out with such a device.
[ This Message was edited by: Bhavv on 2009-02-11 03:46 ]
Posted by HxH
is simply made for PHONE device, not multimedia device so they don't put up a lot stuff.
It's just a PHONE, What you expected from it.
Posted by mode
@HxH
Maybe in the year 2000 which you probably just arrived from (greetings, welcome to the future), cellphones were just for calling. Here's some info for you, almost a decade from your time, all phones have colour screens and are multimedia computers that take photos, video and play audio etc. Only the extent of these capabilities vary, and SE is behind which is what we're b!@#h!*g about.
@Mr. Miyagi
3G video calls drain battery too but it's standard in every phone and it doesn't drain your K850's battery does it? Besides, GPS is only great for navigation if you're driving so get a car charger hence, no battery drain at all. Battery drain is a poor and old excuse which can be solved very easily
Posted by mediar
On 2009-02-11 06:21:19, mode wrote:
Battery drain is a poor and old excuse which can be solved very easily
I think so - just take your charger and you have problem fixed.
Posted by King9
c901 looks very nice. if it has same solid casing and image sensor as c902 we have a clear winner.
its quite slim, and (it seems) it have a well made lens cover.
about gps or not im glad c901 dosent have gps. gps is just a toy, you play with it some times then you bored. Goggle maps works splendid if you want to find a location sometimes. gps also drain your battery way to fast.
abot wlan or not, im also glad c901 dosent have wlan, why ? because you must find unlocked connection all time, and where do you find that ? well, at your home (if you have a wireless router of course), otherwise its quite hard to find some free wifi).
im using my H (hspda) much more often, there i at least have fast internet connection 24/7 (well, at least in most big cities)
Posted by marty mcfly
On 2009-02-11 05:23:01, HxH wrote:
is simply made for PHONE device, not multimedia device so they don't put up a lot stuff.
It's just a PHONE, What you expected from it.
What are you talking about? Then for what purpose was the 8gb Card included with my handset, if not for Media storage? 1000000 contacts? Why do
's then have dedicated Media shortcuts on the home screen that link to the vast Playstation style Multimedia screen? And why do they have an enormous line of Walkman branded handsets if Media is not a concern?
This message was posted from a Walkman branded Media orientated W902
Posted by sale987
On 2009-02-11 10:06:59, King9 wrote:
abot wlan or not, im also glad c901 dosent have wlan, why ? because you must find unlocked connection all time, and where do you find that ? well, at your home (if you have a wireless router of course), otherwise its quite hard to find some free wifi).
im using my H (hspda) much more often, there i at least have fast internet connection 24/7 (well, at least in most big cities)
Will in my case the main Antene for Wirelles is 100meters far from my house, and 250 meters from my workplace, and signal strengh is 75% to 100%, and i have my own account
. thats why i hate because this phone haven't WIFI. And (hsdpa) is too much expensive in my country. about 10$US per 5mbites
Posted by Killfr3nzy
On 2009-02-11 05:23:01, HxH wrote:
is simply made for PHONE device, not multimedia device so they don't put up a lot stuff.
It's just a PHONE, What you expected from it.
TRUE, if you were talking about the 90's.
Posted by -PERFECT-
On 2009-02-11 03:00:52, se_dude wrote:
@bhavv- Umm.. the renoir is a flagship LG andcosts round 600 euros here. This phone is not gonna cross 300 euros. Think before saying.
In my country you can buy it for 360 Euro, where do you live?
I agree with Bhavv, last SE phones don’t worth the price.
Posted by aydahm
I'm quite suprised to see people excited about this phone. I already own a K850i and this phone improves almost nothing over it, and unlike the K850i it has no front camera for video calling.
Had the video recording been VGA @ 30fps, then I could (not would, but could, since SE has been too late to implement VGA recording) change my mind. But since this is not the case, C901 is really a somewhat meaningless phone in my opinion.
Posted by puestadelsol
On 2009-02-11 10:06:59, King9 wrote:
c901 looks very nice. if it has same solid casing and image sensor as c902 we have a clear winner.
In this case is really a loser. C902 produces the same, or worse pictures than K850, which I would change with this phone. And K850, C902 have the one of the weakest cameras amongst 5Mp cameraphones.
Posted by Bhavv
In the UK, LG Secret only costs £160 sim free (kicking myself for paying the same amount on a T700).
The LG Renoir costs £299 sim free. But most people nowadays are on a contract, which means you get the phones at a subsidised price or for free.
For my upgrade in March, I will the following handsets to choose from to upgrade my K850i:
Nokia: 5800 music, N96, N97 (no N85 on my network)
Samsung: pixon, omnia, acme, S8300.
LG: Secret, Renoir, KM900 arena
SE: No X1 Xperia no my network, but the other smartphones are better. C905 is just rubbish and too large compared to the Samsung and LG models, and why on earth would I *UPGRADE* a K850i to an identical model that is just slightly thinner?
If I want a cheap phone, even the LG Secret beats everything from SE below the C905.
@ the comment that a phone is just a phone, why are you interested in the C and walkman ranges from
then? They have internet browsers, MP3 and Video players, camera and Video recorder, colour screen, games and applications. If you dont use any of that then why are you even interested in the C901?
I would believe your comments if you still used a 3310, and didnt have a walkman branded phone in your sig.
But at least
arent as brainwashed or defensive as Iphone fans, and can hold a discussion without getting threatened and telling me to get out the thread. Your defense that you only want a low end phone would be ok if phones werent so overpriced. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but two years ago, people were fans of because they had highly specified phones with good features. Yet it is now 2009, and they still dont put Wifi, GPS, or larger screens onto their phones, yet they charge the same amount for a phone which lacks these features. Oh, and do even have VGA 30 FPS recording yet in their mid range phones? The LG Secret has, the next model from LG has 720x480 capture, as well as the pixon, and the upcoming Samsung phone has HD recording. The new phones from Samsung and LG are also only 11-12 mm thick including the slider S8300, wait a Minute, C901 is 13 mm and C903 is 16 mm??? Huh? SE cant even compete or innovate anymore when it comes to phone size? They used to bring us all the latest features in smaller handsets then Nokia before.
[ This Message was edited by: Bhavv on 2009-02-11 13:14 ]
Posted by puestadelsol
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]ones/overview/c901?lc=es&cc=pe
Here is the link of C901 product page from peru. I can't find it at any other countries. The C901 doesn't have Image stabiliser. Why????
( It has video stabiliser, I can't understand why doesn't have image stabiliser too, C903 has it, has Gps too, it but it lacks the xenon flash. Sony Ericsson made us intended two phones with so many compromisses? Why didn't make us two almost identical phones with fromt camera, xenon flash, image stabiliser, any anybody can make a decision just considering the design. I wait the C901's photos quality, or announcements untill summer, but I want to change my K850 at summer, because I'm fed up with the pink colours intead of red in K850's photos.
Posted by Bhavv
On 2009-02-11 14:14:11, puestadelsol wrote:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]ones/overview/c901?lc=es&cc=pe
Here is the link of C901 product page from peru. I can't find it at any other countries. The C901 doesn't have Image stabiliser. Why????
( It has video stabiliser, I can't understand why doesn't have image stabiliser too, C903 has it, has Gps too, it but it lacks the xenon flash. Sony Ericsson made us intended two phones with so many compromisses? Why didn't make us two almost identical phones with fromt camera, xenon flash, image stabiliser, any anybody can make a decision just considering the design. I wait the C901's photos quality, or announcements untill summer, but I want to change my K850 at summer, because I'm fed up with the pink colours intead of red in K850's photos.
's new marketing strategy.
'Instead of placing all the latest features into one phone like all of our competition, we will seperate the features between the C901 and C903. This way, if the customer want all the latest features, they can buy two phones for it instead of one. Remember our new moto at
, two phones are better then one. All our fans will now buy both the C901 and C903 because they will be unable to choose between the two models'.
This fan will move over to LG instead.
Posted by gtr83
That's why I said SE should slash its current design/production department and call for backup from the Japanese HQ.
Posted by puestadelsol
On 2009-02-11 14:22:37, Bhavv wrote:
's new marketing strategy.
'Instead of placing all the latest features into one phone like all of our competition, we will seperate the features between the C901 and C903. This way, if the customer want all the latest features, they can buy two phones for it instead of one. Remember our new moto at
, two phones are better then one. All our fans will now buy both the C901 and C903 because they will be unable to choose between the two models'.
This fan will move over to LG instead.
Two phones are better than one
) =)) )
Posted by Radu_91
if that will be the strategy they will go bankrupt.....
Posted by gtr83
That strategy was originally Nokia's, but they can afford to do that because of their mass resources, a mature market of their own and some star products that can make up for the failures. Unlike SE, whose last star product was K800 from two years ago.
Posted by Bhavv
Yes, I was going to mention how great my K800i was. It is over 2 years old now, still functional, mint condition, at the time was an outstanding handset...
Then I have two K850s break in one year, and the paint on the D pads of both my K850i and T700 started to peel away after a couple of months of daily use.
For people, like me, who say they dont need Wifi, how can you tell you wont like it untill you actually have a phone with it? I dont need a camera on my phone, but by having it there, I dont need a seperate camera.
Posted by gtr83
I think I'm going to give C905 a try, the C702 did all I expected from it although it's admittedly a pretty basic phone for today's standards. Bang for the buck though!
Posted by Bhavv
On 2009-02-11 14:32:38, gtr83 wrote:
That's why I said SE should slash its current design/production department and call for backup from the Japanese HQ.
To be honest, sony as a whole company seem to be on the downfall for me. They are losing market share, their Playstation range isnt doing well, and the last sony product I bought was an X-black PC monitor many years ago. I dont watch or use TV or Hi-fi systems, all my multimedia use is within my PC and Phone, and I dont see a single product from either Sony or
that interests me. As far as multi product tech companies go, for me both Samsung and LG are ahead of Sony. Samsung have already made a great impact on me in the PC market - I will only ever buy and use Samsung hard drives because they are silent and reliable. Plus I had to RMA one of my Spinpoint harddrives, and they both tested and posted my replacement in under 24 hours, and my new drive arrived 2 days after I sent mine back. Now I cant compare that to other major manufacturers because it was the only time I used a manufacturers RMA service, but I was so impressed that I want to only buy Samsung hard drives now.
Oh yea, I sent my K850i back to
and they told me 'pay £40 to have it rehoused before we fix it, theres a crack on the back'. I dont care about the damn crack or worn out D Pad, I can rehouse it myself if needed - but the damn bluetooth and camera button dont work and they refuse to even look at it unless I paid the £40 for a rehouse. So its not just bad quality products from , its also a terrible warranty cover and service. This was also within my 2 year warranty.
Posted by karlosperu
I think the flash is small?
Posted by Coquito
@Bhavv: On your long long long posts you only talk about the lack of innovation from SE, how bad your K850 and T700 are and how good LG is, do you have anything really "useful" to say in this thread? I mean come on this is a C901 discussion thread, no another of the very common SE complain and bashing thread!!
On topic
Anyone have seen live pics somewhere? I want lo see how it looks in "real"
(Sorry for my english)
_________________
iPhone 3G &
K850i
[ This Message was edited by: Coquito on 2009-02-11 15:15 ]
[ This Message was edited by: Coquito on 2009-02-11 16:39 ]
Posted by gtr83
@Coquito
Well Bhavv used to be an
fan, the current products just don't cut it for him. Be easy on him
Posted by Bhavv
On 2009-02-11 16:13:45, Coquito wrote:
@Bhavv: On your long long long posts you only talk about the lack of innovation from SE, how bad your K850 and T700 are and how good LG is, do you have anything really "useful" to say in this thread? I mean come on this a C901 discussion thread, no another of the very common SE complain and bashing thread!!
On topic
Where are the live pics? I want lo see how it looks in "real"
(Sorry for my english)
_________________
iPhone 3G &
K850i
[ This Message was edited by: Coquito on 2009-02-11 15:15 ]
Just because I am not praising or worshiping the C901 doesnt mean that my input is not useful. I have already stated that the C901 is a underspecified and bad product from
, everything else I mention are simply reasons for why I think this and also why is failing as a company. This is a valid discussion, if you dont like it then you can simply ignore my posts and continue to admire such a deficient product. I see nothing wrong with criticism of a company that is falling far behind the standard they used to be at 2 years ago. It would be even better if actually listened to the complaints from their dying fan base, but they continue to ignore us, and as a result their sales will continue to fall.
This is the first time in 5 years that there is not one product out by
that appeals to me, I mean, if Nokia actually have phones that I like for once, and doesnt, there is something very wrong. [ This Message was edited by: Bhavv on 2009-02-11 16:47 ]
Posted by gtr83
To be honest the units in the live pics look a bit cheap, but those could be changed in the retail version. And they could be real hits if the prices are below 200-250 EUR SIM-free (which is impossible I think).
Posted by xironghostx
On 2009-02-10 20:28:35, xironghostx wrote:
What CPU does this phone use?
Anyone know??
Posted by Raiderski
giancito
yep, something like in K800 but in most cases is still 10x better than LED
Posted by NightBlade
The C901 has a double-flash a la C905/K850. A xenon for pictures and a triple LED for videos. I must say both of them come quite in handy.
Posted by sidnasheikh
Salam every one
This message was posted from a B2150
Posted by Aware
Just realised, LEDs sit under the lens cover - so no Light/torch function?? Shame if so...C902's the same......
Posted by jaguare
Well,its no problems to use c902 led as a torch,just enable video mode and hit the 'flashbutton',voila,you have a very strong torch
[ This Message was edited by: jaguare on 2009-02-12 20:35 ]
Posted by sale987
Yes aware just opet the cover, and use led like torch
, nothing will happen with your phone hehe . Even in my k850, i hate to search to turn on torch manualy, thats why i just set on video and turn on camera
Posted by rambo47
I'm waiting for the C903. Slightly bigger screen, but the addition of built-in GPS it the real plus I'm looking for. That, and a NAM version.
Posted by korbindallis
so this is 4mm thinner then K850 okie so if its priced right ie say a little higher then what C902 is then it should sell well and i would buy it unless something with gps comes a long with same screen or a 2.4"
Posted by King9
i think c901 will rock the boat bigtime. my only simple wish is a really solid casing. 2.2" screen is far enough for me, i rather have a smaller phone then a big brick in my pants.
Posted by rphilippe
I can't seem to find the C901 listed on the UK Sony Ericsson website either in press nor forthcoming products... The other two phones are.
Does this mean we won't be getting it?
or getting hopefully something different? With higher spec? In a CandyBar?
Posted by jaguare
Youtube-compatible,Pictbridge,Picasa webalbums,smileshutter,snapfish,Xenonflash... ooh my,c901 have some really new cool upgrades from c902.
Cant wait to get my hands on this beauty
Ps. I wish only
SE removed smart contrast, it suxs[ This Message was edited by: jaguare on 2009-02-14 10:09 ]
Posted by xironghostx
On 2009-02-11 17:56:42, xironghostx wrote:
On 2009-02-10 20:28:35, xironghostx wrote:
What CPU does this phone use?
Anyone know??
I am still wondering. Does anyone have the slightest clue?
Posted by puestadelsol
First live photos!!!
On the next photo seems that C901 has a quite little lens (related to the other phones)... wich suggests that it could have a tiny sensor too... So I just hope that it's photos will be better than previous Cyber-Shot model's
Posted by puestadelsol
If I understanded well from google translation according to mobile-review's russian page at MWC's SonyEricsson stand wasn't exposed the C901... It's quite strange for me, because there is no product pagefor C901, just in few countries, and isn't listed at SonyEricsson's press release's page either...
Posted by chaos7
More pics of the peach colour variant at the bottom of the page:
http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=7016
2 camera sample shots:
http://www.zoto.com/sudekinanako/albums/18845/
Photos look surprisingly good, especially compared to these 2 of C903, which are just awful:
http://www.zoto.com/sudekinanako/albums/18846/
[ This Message was edited by: chaos7 on 2009-02-17 04:27 ]
Posted by glennfc27
@ chaos7
Thanks for sharing the photos for the two handsets (C901 and C903). C901 performed well, and C903 seems to have purple fringing again, which is widely common to all SE's phones.
Buying C901 compromises alot, why don't they put basic features on two of these phones, it seems that for them front camera is a special feature for a particular phone must have and the other phone under the same product line doesn't have. Well, it's for us guys to decide which really suits us.