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New Samsung i8910 HD ( ex Omnia HD)

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Posted by Alpha Trion
sorry floatlite, when first announced the HD was mentioned as having an FM transmitter (as well as receiver i.e. FM radio) this would allow streaming of your music in your car etc. just curious to know if this feature is still there?
free @£70pm on a 18mth?


Posted by floatlite
Nope no sign of that, its also not listed on the Samsung website either. Apparently the hardware is there, but no software is installed to use it.

David

Posted by rbg777
floatlite, think you could upload any pics?

Posted by floatlite
As requested, quick ( and crappy) photos

A comparison shot with some contemporary models


Front shots



Rear shot


Posted by rbg777
cheers bud. How're you finding the phone? The OS is annoying/slow is it? And just how much have orange mucked things up from what you can tell

RBG

Posted by Yakkaimono
Would be nice if you'd keep us updated about this phone.
How do you feel about the size of the i8910?
And how is the ui so far?

Thanks!

Posted by skblakee
Well Floatlite you might be the unofficial reviewer here.

How does she handle? Any bugs so far? Is she feeling flimsy as in the feel of the body?

Posted by floatlite

On 2009-05-17 01:22:50, Yakkaimono wrote:
Would be nice if you'd keep us updated about this phone.
How do you feel about the size of the i8910?
And how is the ui so far?

Thanks!


So far so good, the Symbian S60 FP5 is fast (in fact VERY fast), the 256mb RAM will help that along, getting about 160mb free after fully booted, pretty normal as far as Symbian UI goes, very Nokia 5800 like, but faster and the screen is much more responsive (as it should be).

Size is good, narrow enough to be help comfortably in the hand, and slightly longer than normal, but plenty of screen real estate, and great for web browsing, almost on a par with the iPhone in this area. The wide screen qwerty keyboard is well laid out, and the keys are nicely spaced for fast typing.


On 2009-05-17 01:22:50, skblakee wrote:
Well Floatlite you might be the unofficial reviewer here.

How does she handle? Any bugs so far? Is she feeling flimsy as in the feel of the body?


Not really found any bugs to be honest, although, i'm sure one will pop out sometime, the more I use it.

The body is well made, and no creaks or groans (so far), the battery cover is tight and creak free. The buttons are solid feeling and positive click, and it's nice to have a touch screen lock seperate from the full button and screen lock button.

So far so good, did I say the screen is pin sharp, very impressive.

David


Posted by recl
how's the audio? are the speakers loud enough? how about the headset?

Posted by rbg777
Floatlife, just how bad is the crappy AMR codec when recording in HD?

Posted by Radu_91
floatlite does the Omnia HD have an Fm transmitter and another question can u put your own shorcuts in the widget bar or what's it called
[ This Message was edited by: Radu_91 on 2009-05-17 12:51 ]


Posted by recl
i think you can choose your own shortcuts. it's called touchwiz

Posted by floatlite

On 2009-05-17 12:46:18, recl wrote:
how's the audio? are the speakers loud enough? how about the headset?


Audio seems to up to standard, not the loudest ever, but certainly not quiet, speakers are usable, not exactly blow yer socks off, but in a quiet to medium background noise environment they are fine.


On 2009-05-17 13:39:36, rbg777 wrote:
Floatlife, just how bad is the crappy AMR codec when recording in HD?


it's, well, I certainly would be careful with the use of the term High Definition, although it's many times better than most camera phones video.

Posted by Yakkaimono
Sounds good so far.
I should be getting mine at the end of the month. Can't wait.

Can you say anything about the widgets floatlite? Are they of any use?

Posted by floatlite

On 2009-05-17 18:41:02, Yakkaimono wrote:
Sounds good so far.
I should be getting mine at the end of the month. Can't wait.

Can you say anything about the widgets floatlite? Are they of any use?


Yeah the widgets are quite cool, you can totally customise them, you can select the number you want to show, from none to all of them, you can turn the feature on or off, and then you can obviously drag and drop the ones you require onto the 'desktop'

Interesting addition to Symbian S60

Posted by Yakkaimono
I have two more questions if you don't mind.
How is the sound quality during calls?
Some reviewer report that it is fine and others say it is bad. So it would be nice to hear your opinion on this.

And did you check the sound quality during video recording? Everyone says that it is really awful.

Thanks!

Posted by floatlite

On 2009-05-17 22:04:50, Yakkaimono wrote:
I have two more questions if you don't mind.
How is the sound quality during calls?
Some reviewer report that it is fine and others say it is bad. So it would be nice to hear your opinion on this.

And did you check the sound quality during video recording? Everyone says that it is really awful.

Thanks!


Sound quality during call is fine, not awesome, but as good as 99% out there (i've tried alot!)

Sound during video is ok, as long as you do not have the volumes all set to the max.

It does tend to pic up a bit of 'near' noise interference, but i find it acceptable, to be honest I would use it for a back up, or on the spot video, I use a Sony HD camcorder for more serious video work.

Posted by Prom1
@rbg777, who said its using AMR codec for audio in video recording? I don't know of any phone that uses that since the K750i or earlier.

I believe its using AAC but in very low bitrate. Lets hope Samsung updates this and thus the quality of Video recording will be better.

@David,

could you please revisit the quality question on audio when video recording please? Test both low video quality's Audio, vs medium and high 720p video recording's Audio quality? Thanks.

All die hard SE fans should be more interactive with David's review of the Samsung HD since the hardware platform is VERY VERY similar to what SE will be using in the Idou.

Symbian Foundation has made the TI OMAP3 platform the baseline of all future Symbian^2 or higher OS based devices ... which means some seriously fast performance with the codec already supporting SMP which no other smartphone OS does natively, not even the bullshit quoted "iPhone OS is the best mobile OS in the world" or Linux of any form or branch thereof.

SMP, and the ability to use TI Omap ARM cpu's is something Nokia had pushed for in the days of the N95. Many SE fans don't see this kind of innovation but will when Idou launches.

Posted by rbg777
@Prom1

yep, Samsung has decided to go with 2003 sound recording technology unbelievably. Its definately the AMR codec.

Posted by dainesefreak
Mine should be delivered on Wednesday, could have been tomorrow but I'd have got woman grief.

Couldn't bring myself to go onto an 18 month contract so it cost me £215 on Dolphin 35 for 12 months. I'll sell my 16gb Omnia to soften the blow.

Posted by Yakkaimono
@ floatlite

Can you tell us what is icluded in the box of the i8910. (Maybe with some pics)

@ Prom1

Take a look at this thread over at Samsung Mobile Innovator. A guy from the innovator team confirms that it uses AMR.

Posted by Prom1
[quote]
On 2009-5-18 14:55:15, rbg777 wrote:

@Prom1

yep, Samsung has decided to go with 2003 sound recording technology unbelievably. Its definately the AMR codec.


On 2009-05-18 14:55:15, Yakkaimono wrote:
@ Prom1

Take a look at this thread over at Samsung Mobile Innovator. A guy from the innovator team confirms that it uses AMR.


DAMN! You guys were not kidding!! I stand corrected.
Now, the Xperia X1 or its upgrade or the N86, N97 will get my upgrade dollars or I'll just wait until my E71 gives out.

Posted by frank2345babies
Sure the i8910 sound recording is not quite up to par but. I still think it hands down beats the phones mentioned above hardware and software wise. In all aspects apart from the qwerty keyboard. Oh and i would also like to know what items are included in the box

Posted by firenze_25
@floatlite:

Which GSM and 3G HSDPA bands are supported by your new Omnia HD?
How's the battery life?

Thanks.

Posted by Alpha Trion
You haven't said where you are Firenze_25 but,

2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8910_omnia_hd-2691.php


Posted by firenze_25

On 2009-05-20 12:34:48, Alpha Trion wrote:
You haven't said where you are Firenze_25 but,

2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8910_omnia_hd-2691.php




At Samsung Mobile UK ( http://uk.samsungmobile.com/m[....]/samsung-i8910hd-specification ) in the specs of Omnia HD, it appears GSM 900/1800/1900 y 3G 850/900/1900/2100
But, as you mentioned at GSM Arena it says GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and 3G HSDPA 900/1900/2100
Who's right about this???



Posted by dainesefreak
Got mine today and first impressions are good. I've got to admit that I like Symbian and WinMo so the change from WinMo 6.1 wasn't really a biggie for me.

The whole unit is so much faster than the i900 and the screen is great from both a sensitivity point of view and image quality. S60 is a simpler OS than WinMo but it takes away that "make do with" thing that under lies touch operation on Windows Mobile devices; because at some point the nice 3rd party UI hits the Microsoft OS.

Texting is nicer than on the standard Omnia due to the screen size, sensitivity and lack of lag.

The AMR thing really doesn't bother me as I only really tend to shoot video of my 5 year old son and watch it back on the handset or message it out to my wife's mobile. The picture quality of the video is on a completely different level to anything else I've owned, but then they were all SE handsets other than the previous Omnia.

I can't fugure out what that the little hinged thing with the landard is for, I'm sure it's great whatever it is though!!

Yakkaimono - Phone, Battery, Headphones, Wall Charger, USB Lead/Charger and little doobrey I mentioned above.
[ This Message was edited by: dainesefreak on 2009-05-20 17:50 ]


Posted by Yakkaimono
Thanks!

It would be nice if you could report something about the web browsing and the battery life.

Posted by dainesefreak
I like the browser, it seems to be applied better than Opera was on the i900. I found the i900 Omnia really fiddly to use as the zoom function could be a pain. Sometimes it zoomed to places that I didn't click or the slide zoom at the side zoomed when you wanted to scroll. The i8910 is similar to use but it's executed better, it zooms to where I tell it to zoom and has been fairly quick bringing pages down over WiFi and 3G.

A nice function is the back option that shows all of the previous pages as a sort of carousel. You roll it backwards and forwards to select the page you want.

I can't really say too much about the battery yet as it's been on charge for most of the morning and then been plugged into the USB copying music and video over. It charges from the USB so it's full still.

I've not really found anything to grumble at with the whole handset so far. I'm sure a bit more use will dig something up though.

Posted by recl
can you post some sample pics?
the omnia hd should have the same camera sensor as the innov8 but from all reviews that doesn't show.
then again, the pics i've seen weren't the best.

Posted by alexho
is the i8910 comes with any orange logo and branding or orange box pls? AS i know they r only available on orange at the moment!

Posted by Bonovox
Samsung are really leading the way now with their tech

Posted by dainesefreak
I'm at work today but I'll try and get some pics done and uploaded this evening. First impressions from the couple of shots I took yesterday, outside in good light, was that it was a much better camera than the i900.

The phone comes in the usual Orange branded box with the Orange bumf, manuals, etc. The only branding on the phone is a small, less than 1 cm, Orange cube logo on the back cover with the i8910 number next to it. UI wise from the menu view (not a Widget fan) there's Orange World which is the Web Browser with Orange homepage. It doesn't seem like this is changeble but obviously I can add bookmarks such as google. There is also the Orange Music Store that installs as an app when first used. Other than that there's an Orange Maps Widget in the Widgets bar which takes you to the Orange Maps page to download/buy their Sat Nav.

There really isn't much enforced as far as Orange branding goes. I would imagine the noticable difference will be seen when the phone is de-branded and I can see what Orange have removed over the original Nokia/Samsung OS.

Posted by Prom1

On 2009-05-20 16:10:26, firenze_25 wrote:

On 2009-05-20 12:34:48, Alpha Trion wrote:
You haven't said where you are Firenze_25 but,

2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8910_omnia_hd-2691.php




At Samsung Mobile UK ( http://uk.samsungmobile.com/m[....]/samsung-i8910hd-specification ) in the specs of Omnia HD, it appears GSM 900/1800/1900 y 3G 850/900/1900/2100
But, as you mentioned at GSM Arena it says GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and 3G HSDPA 900/1900/2100
Who's right about this???



As of right now ANY model with the 850Mhz 3G band is NOT shipping. Currently Orange UK is the ONLY reliable source on bands supported on an Omnia i8910 because its SHIPPING and verifiable.

I don't fully trust GSMArena as they've made mistakes before, then edited their content.

Posted by Alpha Trion

On 2009-05-21 13:43:22, Prom1 wrote:

As of right now ANY model with the 850Mhz 3G band is NOT shipping. Currently Orange UK is the ONLY reliable source on bands supported on an Omnia i8910 because its SHIPPING and verifiable.

I don't fully trust GSMArena as they've made mistakes before, then edited their content.


Very good & valid comments

Posted by alexho

On 2009-05-21 10:45:46, dainesefreak wrote:
I'm at work today but I'll try and get some pics done and uploaded this evening. First impressions from the couple of shots I took yesterday, outside in good light, was that it was a much better camera than the i900.

The phone comes in the usual Orange branded box with the Orange bumf, manuals, etc. The only branding on the phone is a small, less than 1 cm, Orange cube logo on the back cover with the i8910 number next to it. UI wise from the menu view (not a Widget fan) there's Orange World which is the Web Browser with Orange homepage. It doesn't seem like this is changeble but obviously I can add bookmarks such as google. There is also the Orange Music Store that installs as an app when first used. Other than that there's an Orange Maps Widget in the Widgets bar which takes you to the Orange Maps page to download/buy their Sat Nav.

There really isn't much enforced as far as Orange branding goes. I would imagine the noticable difference will be seen when the phone is de-branded and I can see what Orange have removed over the original Nokia/Samsung OS.

thank you for answering my questions. could u also tell where did u buy your mobile phone? was it from Orange direct or other mobile store. wanna get one from mobiles.co.uk but not sure whether the phone is branded or not!

Posted by dainesefreak
I ordered mine directly from Orange online. I would imagine the Mobiles.co.uk phones are branded too as the earliest date I've seen is the 25th May for the SIM free units coming in and Mobiles claim to have stock already. I could be wrong though.

Posted by Alpha Trion
Digging about on the Orange website and clicking the 'orange recommends' link

http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop[....]nds/paymonthly?WT.ac=ACSPALL_L

clearly advertises the 16GB internal memory! (you even get a fancy flash annimation when clicked on) Yet click on 'more detail'

http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop[....]ung_i8910hd/detail/pay_monthly

then shows the 8GB version being stocked.

Anyone who's actually recieved their HD direct from Orange like to comment on which version is being shipped? Thinking as this is Orange we're talking about is probably just a glaring mistake on their website!!!


Posted by Alpha Trion
Thinking the 16GB version would certainly go a little way to justifing the £99 blanket min cost?

Posted by dainesefreak
It's an 8gb version from Orange. I would imagine that the "Exclusive" bit is around the 8gb part and that another Mobile company will get the 16gb version. I don't believe the 16gb version has finished final production/shipping yet. So Orange will have the handset exclusively until that time. If I recall correctly they did it with the i900; Orange got 16gb and Vodafone 8gb.
[ This Message was edited by: dainesefreak on 2009-05-21 17:54 ]


Posted by dainesefreak
Some Photos from the handset. As you can probably tell I'm really not a photographer , the most I'll use the camera for is MMS pics really. All I do is hold the button down and click.







Everything above is at ISO200 3MP, on a light cloud/sunny day.


The following 2 are 8mp with auto ISO settings. I reduced to 70% and resaved in Paint to upload.






Posted by frank2345babies
the hinged item is a stand for video playback etc. to save holding, something i found quite usefull on the 5800.00 as the phone supports something like 5 1/2 hours video playback, and the phone is the same size/weight as a baby elephant its something that i think you might find quite usefull. not dissing the phone i have one ordered but just stating the obvious

Posted by dainesefreak
Ah I see, thanks for that.

Posted by recl
can you please upload some fullsize photos?

Posted by dainesefreak
The full size images are huge 3264 x 2448 and between 3.5-4mb per image.

Posted by alexho

On 2009-05-21 16:41:14, dainesefreak wrote:
I ordered mine directly from Orange online. I would imagine the Mobiles.co.uk phones are branded too as the earliest date I've seen is the 25th May for the SIM free units coming in and Mobiles claim to have stock already. I could be wrong though.

thank you very much again! I am with o2 at the moment and the problem with o2 is they don't stock all the latest handset so i am still waiting to see whether they r going to stock the i8910 this time. If not then I will leave o2 and join whatever network which stock unbrand i8910.

Posted by dainesefreak
I'm with O2 and have just taken a new contract out with Orange, in fact I'm due to port over today. I like O2 but their policy of not stocking handsets that may take sales away from the iPhone was enough to make me move. I ended up having to buy the i900 SIM free so that I could stay with O2 last year. I couldn't be bothered to do that this time and I've actually got better reception with Orange at home into the bargain.

Posted by alexslane
hmmm been watching this thread for some time now.
can't make my mind up whether to stay with my hd that I have had for 3 days or to send it back and get to omnia hd.
was looking forward to installing tomtom on the hd or would garmin xt work with this handset?
alex

Posted by masseur
Garmin XT will work fine. I'm using it on my Nokia 5800 which is also a fully touchscreen S60 5th edition.. (and I prefer the Garmin over the TomTom)... just be aware that if you have a slighter older version of the XT software, you'll need the latest (free) update from the Garmin site for full S60 touchscreen compatibility

Posted by dainesefreak
I prefer Garmin to TomTom too but I've just tried the lastest 5th Edition version on the HD and it doesn't work properly. The touch screen works but where there is an OK/Continue option, such as selecting the language down in one of the bottom corners, it just doesn't respond.


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