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Posted by panonski
Does anyone trying something or it is all on dead spot ....


Posted by superleeds27
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=179240

Posted by mauasca
The best results (with less noise in the countryside) I have obtained them by turning off the stabilizer.
the stabilizer, being digital, not optical, tends to increase the ISO and consequently to increase the noise fondo.PS with the stabilizer off, the pictures weigh a little more ', circa 2700/2900 KB 0_o
February out 'a new firmware and hopefully in a patch for this bug, because I think that now the CamModders can not do much to improve quality and reduce the noise at least with this firmware ^ _ ^

Posted by panonski

On 2009-01-22 20:43:27, mauasca wrote:
The best results (with less noise in the countryside) I have obtained them by turning off the stabilizer.


I do that right time when I was first use camera, because I realize logically the quality must be little less. Stabilizer do this job in a way to doesn't allow lowly shutter speed ( pics are much sharper if you have unsteady hands ) and that means the ISO must be higher, and that's finally results with more NOISE.


the stabilizer, being digital, not optical, tends to increase the ISO and consequently to increase the noise fondo.


What I just told you


PS with the stabilizer off, the pictures weigh a little more ', circa 2700/2900 KB 0_o
February out 'a new firmware and hopefully in a patch for this bug, because I think that now the CamModders can not do much to improve quality and reduce the noise at least with this firmware ^ _ ^



Hope so.... But I wondered how cammodders may do much improvements on other SE phones,

and with this one seems to be hard job to do that... :?

Posted by panonski

On 2009-01-22 17:47:45, superleeds27 wrote:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=179240


tnx, but that was some time ago....and I already now it

Posted by gtr83
@panonski

I thought you were going to sell your C905?

Posted by panonski
I was planing to. . .but I realize that would be maybe stupid and unnececeary move. .My phone is bought just because of cam, and that will may be improve. . .This phone has warranty ( i beleive 2 years )
and that means, I got more time to let him... . to go f**ked
...


Posted by Raiderski
wait for next firmware but don't expect miracles... in order to avoid disappointments

Posted by panonski

On 2009-01-23 11:25:58, Raiderski wrote:
wait for next firmware but don't expect miracles... in order to avoid disappointments



I'm not

Tell me one thing.... I already post that question before...How's that older SE phones may much improve in photoarea by modding camdriver,

and this one not ? Where is the difference? I see on all topics mini miracles in camdrives

and with this phone I seen in cammoding ......well, almost nothing

Posted by number1
The older se's have less megapixels so less noise reduction increasing the sharpness has a bigger effect, also they have a larger iso range the old 2megapixels are 100-800 with lower isos prodcuing noticeable better quality , so just reducing the iso a little bit means alot better quality. With the C905 and it's iso range of 64-200 theres not much difference in the noise reduction in iso 64 or 200 it's just extremly heavy all the time and noise levels are about the same, the sharpness doesn't seem to have a big effect probley because the powerful noise reduction just smooths it out again, if you add colour saturation to the c905 camdriver you could improve the colour but theres not much to be done in turns of quality unless you could tweak the noise reduction but then you'd have to choose between noise or detail, se clearly choose to remove all noise reguardless of detail. The C905's output photos are a product of the post-processing/noise reduction more than anything else.

Posted by panonski
only between 64 and 200 ?!!!

Men! This is ...Can I tell the word .. ? It's start with Sh...

Tnx, number1, I realize now where is the problem ... You have just no space to improve anything here....




Posted by number1
With a correctly tuned modded camdriver you would notice a slight improvement in quality but nothing huge the 8mp on tiny cmos sensor isn't the best hardware to work with. In future if looking for a good cam phone go for something with the less megapixels on it's tiny cmos sensor unless it has a ccd or huge sized cmos sensor( the phone would be the size of DSLR), 1,2,3 megapixels all work ok on the current small cmos sensors anything more and you might notice the quality goes down. the C905 has a slightly larger Exor sensor so it could probley hold 4-5 megapixels with good quality pics.

Posted by Raiderski
modding was easier and results were visible almost imediately. this doesn't work well for C905 any more

Posted by number1
Yea even less hope with the new 12mp cam phones se are gonna accounce, probley 0 hope.

Posted by panonski
I wondered,

is on C905 larger sensor than on others SE's ?

Like K850 or C902?



Posted by number1
Yes only slightly larger, but no where near even close enough to effectivly hold 8mp.

Posted by Raiderski
actually max ISO value is limited only by software and it's not ISO 200. you can find ISO 400 pics, this is good limit. hardware can go up to ISO 1600 which is not really useful for normal user

real potential of hardware is big but SE never wanted to use it in Cyber-shot

... C905 is good shooter but could be better maybe with next firmware

EDIT: damn, this 12MP cameraphone is really ridiculous idea

[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2009-01-23 11:53 ]

Posted by panonski

On 2009-01-23 12:52:01, Raiderski wrote:
actually max ISO value is limited only by software and it's not ISO 200. you can find ISO 400 pics, this is good limit. hardware can go up to ISO 1600 which is not really useful for normal user

real potential of hardware is big but SE never wanted to use it in Cyber-shot

... C905 is good shooter but could be better maybe with next firmware

EDIT: damn, this 12MP cameraphone is really ridiculous idea

[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2009-01-23 11:53 ]



somehow, I believe they gone make large step forward in next firmware
to use,

all power of hardware to improve photo quality...


And that will be happened only because of INNOV, Pixon and their objective fear

of financial loose in battle.

This two phones (INNOV, Pixon) already have much better things inside,

and only way to beat them is on CyberShot field ....

( and even on that field SE losing game right now )


So.... Only thing for expect is MUCH IMPROVEMENT to beat the Samsung.


Is that possible?.... We shall see

Posted by number1
I was refering to there auto mode iso values, increasing the ev you can get 1600, more to the point which 1 do you think would produce the best iso 1600 pic the c905 or k750, the new c905 firmware will improve pic quality a tiny bit at the most or it could make it worse, i dont think se are botherd longs they have the most megapixels which they will when they realease there 12mp

Posted by panonski

On 2009-01-23 14:15:18, number1 wrote:
I was refering to there auto mode iso values, increasing the ev you can get 1600, more to the point which 1 do you think would produce the best iso 1600 pic the c905 or k750, the new c905 firmware will improve pic quality a tiny bit at the most or it could make it worse, i dont think se are botherd longs they have the most megapixels which they will when they realease there 12mp




Hope you're not right

p.s.

But I mean you're right :/


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