Posted by vivid white
Right I have a upgrade coming up and need some opinions!!
Basically I cant decide between the X1, Blackberry Bold or iPhone 3g. I currently have a iPhone 2g which I have no complaints about but I dont know whether getting a 3g will be alittle samey.
Just want people opinions really on which is the better all rounder. I dont have any really prefs on what a phone does......camera, mp3's, text, call all the normally bits.
Any help would be great.
Thanks
James
Posted by anonymuser
Presumably you have the 2.2 software on your 2G iPhone, so the 3G will be VERY samey - you'd really only gain 3G data (assuming you're in a decent coverage area) and the GPS, which is a nice thing to have, but whether it's worth blowing your upgrade on is another thing.
Everyone here will tell you to get an X1, since this is an SE forum... it is the absolute opposite of the iPhone in many ways so might be nice to have for contrast, and for some of the extra functionality... I bet you go back to the iPhone more often than not, though
Posted by MWEB
I believe Dogmann has owned all three, so i would quiz him for an unbiased opinion on the positives and negatives of each
Posted by masseur
well, I have 2 out of 3 (which according to meatloaf ain't bad!), and while I do love WM, I have to agree that I still use my iphone more than my X1
actually, I'm giving thought to changing the X1 for a HD, which maybe another one for consideration by you?
Posted by Bonovox
I would go for the X1. I prefer SE anyway plus the X1 is a sexy all in one device does everything you need in one amazing package. Iphone features are poor in my opinion and i dont like Blackberry designs. X1 all the way.
Posted by ofiaich
Hi!
I am using a Bold and a HTC Touch HD!
I like WM a lot too but I do like the Bold for it's ease of email.
Screen on the HD is excellent and I can do everything without using the stylus.
Ofiaich
Posted by gforce23
Are you a big texter? If you are, the Bold's a no-brainer.
Otherwise, I'd be equally happy with an X1 or the iPhone3G.
Posted by vivid white
Thank you for everyones replies. I know the only person who can actually decide which one to have is myself but I do like hearing pro's and con's from other users.
I do like the iPhone, I think it is an amazing phone but going for the 3g would seem like im blowing my upgrade really. I think I will do alittle research into the X1 and Bold and see which comes out on top for myself. I am a SE fan really so the X1 always seems to shine through as did the P990i and P1i. Only thing putting me off the BB option is when BB first came to the scene I had one through work for 6 months and was very disappointed. I know obviously things would have changed but still cant shake the fact that it wasnt what I thought it was going to be.
Right im off to have a think about things and I will post back here with my final choice.
Thanks again for all the replies. Can always count on Esato for some good replies.
James
Posted by anonymuser
One last pause for thought - if you really like your iPhone, could you put up with it for another six months? I'm just thinking, you know Apple will be announcing the next generation of iPhone soon enough, to supercede the 3G (and doubtless improve on the screen etc..) - how are you going to feel if you go for the X1 or Bold now, get locked into another 18 month deal, and then the iPhone Pro gets released a few months later?
Posted by vivid white
On 2008-12-16 13:56:09, Boinng wrote:
One last pause for thought - if you really like your iPhone, could you put up with it for another six months? I'm just thinking, you know Apple will be announcing the next generation of iPhone soon enough, to supercede the 3G (and doubtless improve on the screen etc..) - how are you going to feel if you go for the X1 or Bold now, get locked into another 18 month deal, and then the iPhone Pro gets released a few months later?
That is a good point. The only downside to that is if the phone is put back by a couple of months.........for me 6 months already seems like a life time to keep a phone for. I know this probably sounds daft but I do like a change quite often.
Ill have to look into that one.
Another note from me it looks like the BB Storm will also be available to me. If anyone has anything to say on that front!?
Thanks
James
Posted by gforce23
Well, if it's of any relevance, the Blackberry OS seems to have been ported to WinMo devices through a virtualized interface. Kinda makes the Xperia a wee bit hotter, eh?
Posted by dondori
for the HD users: Is the touch screen on the HD better than the one on the X1.
I mean is it more responsive, quicker, smoother, etc?
and for SMS on the HD is the touch keypad responsive and clear for usage (like the i-phone), or is it as annoying as the x1 by using the screen touch keypad (the tiny keypad)?
Thanks
Posted by anonymuser
On 2008-12-16 14:00:16, SEP990i wrote:
That is a good point. The only downside to that is if the phone is put back by a couple of months.........for me 6 months already seems like a life time to keep a phone for. I know this probably sounds daft but I do like a change quite often.
I do know the feeling - I love my iPhone 3G to bits, but dearly wish it wasn't tied to an 18mth contract (only 15 to go now!)
There's always going to be a better phone just around the corner and I don't usually tell people to wait for it, I just get the impression you're looking at the X1 and the Bold for the sake of it more than anything else, and while the iPhone 3G might not be worth the change, the 4G probably will be!
Another note from me it looks like the BB Storm will also be available to me. If anyone has anything to say on that front!?
The reviews aren't good! I don't think it would impress you too much after the iPhone (no wifi for starters, a killer omission).
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
when i upgraded from the 2g to the 3g my upgrade date didnt change, which is prtty awesome, bring on a new one! haha
Posted by ofiaich
Hi!
there are a few threads over at XDA about installing BB on Wm devices, another here
Ofiaich
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Posted by gforce23
On 2008-12-17 00:25:10, ofiaich wrote:
Hi!
there are a few threads over at XDA about installing BB on Wm devices, another here
Thanks for the links but they seem to talk about installing BB Connect on the Touch HD. BerryReview's article (linked in my previous post) talks about using the entire BB OS 4.2 on a WinMo phone.
Posted by justus333
Well, Im a Iphone 2g owner and for the old love to Sony/// sake I bought a X1 and well, sold it after 2 days. So Iīll be waiting for the next generation Iphone as I think no phone comes close in user friendlyness and comfort of everyday use! In those regards the X1 was a BIG dissapointment. Dont know about the bold though, but stick to the IPhone until the next Generation IPhone arrives!
Posted by anonymuser
Are you getting bored of hearing the same thing over and over, Whybe?
Posted by max_wedge
well personally dogmann I see it like this: iphone user's are more often than not the one's who like to skite about the exclusive club they belong to (though I must say I don't put Boinng in that class at all - Boinng please don't think I am referring to you at all).
X1 users such as whybe are just WM users who are pleased to have some of the SE style in a WM handset. I don't think whybe is saying X1 is the ducks gut's and that everyone should have one. He, like me, is probably just sick of people bitching on about the X1 just because it's NOT all things for all people. We KNOW it's not all things for all people, and we are sensible enough to recognise it's virtues without needing it to be perfect in all respects.
Infact I would class whybe, and find it hard to understand how anyone could see different, as one of the more rational X1 owners. He's certainly not an "apologist" for the X1. Boinng's word I believe from one of our past stoushes
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Posted by MWEB
There's a great deal of truth in what Dogmann says IMO, senior members and staff on here would do well to take on board some of those criticisms and start to be a lot more pro-active in countering some of the more hardcore fanboy elements, rather than just closing threads down and hoping for the best!!
Posted by max_wedge
Yes I agree, but I thought his inclusion of whybe was unwarranted. Otherwise I agree with him.
I'm the first one to agree about rampant fanboyism. I'm just as eager to complain about rampant negativism about SE and other OEM's. The two often go hand in hand but not always. Often the people criticising people for SE fanboyism find it difficult to contain their own Nokia or Apple fanboyism.
It shit's me when you can't defend a phone or brand (using logic and reason) without being thought of as a fanboy. So I agree with you 100% but let's not turn it into an either or proposition.
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Posted by anonymuser
I think we all need to lighten up.
That said, WhyBe's post above made me laugh because it was so completely unwarranted. The post he was replying to was perfectly reasonable, fact based (in that it was an account of that person's direct experience), polite, entirely relevant to the topic, not antagonistic in any way - so why that response from WhyBe?
Oh wait - the poster favoured the iPhone against the X1! Therefore, it goes without saying that they must be fanboy! So fair game, right? Isn't that the law here, now?
Posted by MWEB
I like the example set by the Blackberry enthusiasts here on Esato, they chat quite happily amongst themselves in their own section, totally content with the attributes of their chosen brand, without ever feeling the need to sprawl all around the forum ramming their preferences down the throats of any potential purchasers
Posted by anonymuser
But that sort of attitude doesn't really help the OP of this thread, who's asking for a variety of opinions on the Blackberry, iPhone, and X1 combined, does it?
It seems to me more than a little sad that there should be anyone on this forum who doesn't feel free to post their own opinion on any relevant thread. It's equally sad that there may be other posters who want to pigeonhole and marginalise those people to stop them from posting, seemingly afraid of what they might say.
This is a discussion forum. Let's discuss.
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Posted by MWEB
It's less a matter of "boxing people up" and more a case of "keeping people where their wanted", but i agree, it's time to move on
Posted by WhyBe
@max wedge:
Thanks for your post in defense of me.
@Dogmann and Boinng:
You guys are over-defensive. I said "crickets and frogs" and somehow you've done an entire psychoanalysis of what I was thinking. Inaccurately, I might add.
My response was in agreement with Justus333. I was not bashing him at all. He made a very good point about the iPhone. A point that I have repeated many times on this board and even last week in this thread on inxperia.com
People say iPhone is inferior because of a lack of "feature A" or "feature B". When, in reality, iPhones trump card has never been in it's feature set.
I, personally, don't mind sacrificing a little user-friendliness for the sexy power of the X1 though.
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Posted by anonymuser
...crickets and frogs............
Posted by C905
If you want fun and intertainment on so on, then Iphone 3G is the way to go.
Going for X1 are the qwerty-keyboard and better featureset, but then you wont have a nice UI and a big screen
As for the Blackberry, I really can't comment, because we don't have them in Denmark
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-12-17 17:41:11, Boinng wrote:
...crickets and frogs............
Just for that...you're a fanboy!
Posted by anonymuser
but WhyBe, I was ony expressing my full and sincere agreement!
Posted by justus333
Well, maybe I should have gone a bit more in detail with my comment before as it seems to have stirred some totally unnecessary "fanboy" discussion.
Im a Fanboy! Of Sony Ericsson! Thatīs why I bought (being totally happy with the IPhone) the X1 as it seemed the first really worthwhile offer from Sony/// for my specific needs. As it turned out, it didnīt, just because Iīve gotten so used to the specific goodies the IPhone has to offer. I thought the X1 could cater to the things I was missing on the Iphone and it actually can, but it seems that the IPhone indeed has changed the way many people use their mobiles, so I found out that I can not go back to a phone thatīs less "fingertouchfriendly" than the IPhone, even if it has all the goodies the X1 has. I then wrote my comment because I myself was trying to get some user information about direct comparison between the 2 devices and couldnīt find them. Because if I had, i would not of bought the x1 first place
I think the X1 is a great device but the Iphone still is unique and a truly revolutionary device that doesnīt allow me to go back to good oleīSony///
Maybe itīs time for me to say goodbye to a Sony/// Forum and join the IPhone crowd but Im a sentimental guy and still stick to you guys!
Posted by cyco
dont get me wrong i love sony ericsson and nevr bought another brand... however i got the x1 recently and its a peice of art, yet there are many soiftware issues, i returned it and waiting for the black c905 as its out of stock... if u really want an x1 wait a few months untill they release an update...
sometimes it freezes.
its too slow wen switching betwen panels,
sometimes wen trying to find a number and u press backspace it doesnt work,
contatcs doesnt load up sometimes and u have to reset the device
just has many bugs... most of my freinds have the bold and they say its really good no complaints..
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-12-17 17:59:23, Boinng wrote:
but WhyBe, I was ony expressing my full and sincere agreement!
Good for you Boinng!
I had a feeling that you like
xy power too!
@Justus333:
Dont't be alarmed, you haven't stirred anything. You were very clear and I totally agreed with your first point. The guys guarding you were a little over-zealous in defending your point though. They were reading things that weren't there. The "Crickets and frogs" were because there was no way for your point to be outdone by someone counterattacking about "features." IOW, you ended the show.
In hindsight, I should've been more clear.
Posted by Svedge
On 2008-12-17 17:51:03, C905 wrote:
If you want fun and intertainment on so on, then Iphone 3G is the way to go.
Going for X1 are the qwerty-keyboard and better featureset, but then you wont have a nice UI and a big screen
As for the Blackberry, I really can't comment, because we don't have them in Denmark
Not totally right
. You can install TouchFlo 3D for a better UI, it works pretty well even if its still beta. In reality the X1 has a "bigger" screen if you look at the resolution, 480 x 320 (Iphone) vs. 800 x 480 (X1).
With Iphone, you will also be iLocked, Apple hates giving their customers freedom. Thats my biggest reason for staying far away from Apple, I would rather have a deal with the Devil than Apple.
Posted by max_wedge
can you jail break the 3G? If so that seems the best way to go. I'd love it if someone did up a fully working touch interface linux distro for the iphone 3G, now THAT would be interesting
re: previous poster - I don't actually like touchflo that much - to me it comes no where near the iphone in touch user friendliness.
I haven't seen yet a touch interface for WM that motivates me to discard the stylus.
Posted by MWEB
Agree Max, all variants of Tflo leave much to be desired, if the UI is your be all and end all, then the iphone is still way ahead.