Posted by Bonovox
Has anyone seen the You Tube video of this phone being made in the factory in Finland? It says the Nokia N97 is on its way
Make it sound like the second coming
Posted by Bonovox
This phone was on BBC News tonight comparing it to the new iphone. Huh iphone is crap
Posted by GUCCI.011
indeed, my poor father is stuck with an iPhone3g 8gb for the next 6months, and i just know he would like a phone like E72 or N97 type phone now.
Posted by alexho
i am going to receive my N97 in the morning. Ordered it 2 days ago from mobilephonesdirect.com. It's going to be unbrand and sim free even it's on vodafone network. BTW, the general release day of N97 in uk is 26 July!
Posted by Bonovox
Oh you lucky thing. I aint had a Nokia for a year or more would like to try one again some day been with SE for a while now. Actually most of my mobile life has been Ericsson or Sony Ericsson.
Posted by captainsm
On 2009-05-25 20:49:30, mario2004 wrote:
I am pretty sure, this is about the best a nail sized lens can do. It will be interesting to see how a higher mp pixel sensor can increase the pic/lens quality. I think 3.2mp is just about right for the lens size/quality a cell phone has those days. Anything above that and the sensor is overkill. Anything under and the sensor is the weak link. I expect next year to see 12 - 15mp sensors. The question is, will the picture really be 5x better then a 3mp? I very much doubt it. From now on I personaly don't bother about pixel count. However lens quality is the 'joker' card when it comes to pic quality in a cell phone. Karl Zeiss better deliver in 2010, otherwise not even a 20mp cell will impress me
Tell that to plankgatan..
I bet his C902 pics (with the right "driver") will outperform my Canon 5d mark II.
Posted by alexho
just received my N97 from the postman. My first impression is the box is so small compare to N93 and N95.
Posted by JiggyJaggy
is this out on Orange yet?
Posted by mario2004
On 2009-06-20 10:38:56, alexho wrote:
just received my N97 from the postman. My first impression is the box is so small compare to N93 and N95.
Hey, give us a review or some first impressions. Don't mention Nokia. Just talk about the n97 and s60. Makes me feel better
Posted by dicky
and post some pics too!
think i may get one
Posted by johnmcl7
On 2009-06-20 02:00:47, captainsm wrote:
Tell that to plankgatan..
I bet his C902 pics (with the right "driver") will outperform my Canon 5d mark II.
Only if the person using the Canon wasn't smart enough to power it up and point it in the right direction, even in full auto mode its large sensor allows for far wider dynamic range, incomparably better high sensitivty, image stabilisation, high speed phase detect AF, optical viewfinder, raw shooting etc. While there is of course a lot of skill in using a camera particularly with composition there is also considerable capability in the camera hardware itself, people frequently ask how I managed to take certain shots as they'd like to do the same but I have to tell them it's not possible with the hardware they have.
I've been looking forward to the N97 for a while as I've liked the 5800 interface but really missed having the E90's keyboard however there seems to be a lot of criticism of the N97 keyboard so I'm thinking I should be patient and try it out in the shops first.
John
[ This Message was edited by: johnmcl7 on 2009-06-22 23:29 ]
Posted by kwabs2006
n97 now supports n-gage
Posted by adnansanni
Any esatoan got it yet?
Posted by rapper007
Hi guys!can anyone tell me if the n97 is better than n96?i'm a n96 owner and i'm really satisfied but i wonder what the n97 has in more!
This message was posted from a N96
Posted by Prom1
On 2009-06-28 21:11:07, rapper007 wrote:
Hi guys!can anyone tell me if the n97 is better than n96?i'm a n96 owner and i'm really satisfied but i wonder what the n97 has in more!
This message was posted from a N96
That, my friend, is your first mistake: buying a phone solely on the merits of its camera.
You'll have a full qwerty, Contact lookup as you type a name/number - something your N96 doesn't have, and also touch screen if that tickles your fancy. There is more but until a fully investigated review by an existing owner and dialy user of another decent spec'd S60 device; we won't know just how good this is.
One thing is known ... decent battery life.
Personally I'm leaning towards the W995a or the E72 in the fall.
Posted by rapper007
Thanx ;) but does the n97 has direct tv?i think it's rather an internet device. Am i wrong?
This message was posted from a WAP device
Posted by Marly
With direct tv you mean Mobile TV (DVB-H), like the N96 has ?
No, the N97 doesn't have that, only internet streaming.
Posted by rapper007
Oh! Internet streaming is very useful!
This message was posted from a N96
Posted by dgable
Hi there consider myself very lucky as i picked up the nokia n97 and the nokia e75 at weekend and the n97 is a very nice piece of kit its more of an all rounder than say the omnia hd which is more specialised in multi media.
For instance I love the fm transmitter allowing me to play my tunes from the n97 through my car stereo is useful to me.
I also like the live widget for face book as its always updating you on 3 random peoples statuses from your friends.
The 32 gig also goes a long way when your filling it with your tunes and ive all put a 16 gb card in too which it handles no prob. The battery didnt last long yesterday but it was its first charge and had to some extensive playing with though i guess with the screen and features its never going to last as long as my trusty e71 which has the same capacity battery.But it dooes shame my samsung innov8 which can be left switched on with no sim in it at the beginning of the day and by night its on one bar !?!
It has crashed a couple of times but thats to be expected when you adopt a nokia early and its nowhere near as bad as the n95 was when it was first released.
I got a white one from phones for you and initially i preferred the look of the black one in the shop as the chrome edging suited the darker hue better but now the white grown on me.
The keyboard is a little odd in its layout compared to say the e75 which i prefer as a long press will select a number whereas on the n97 a long press repeats say the "r" key like this rrrrrrrrrr which is the same as the computers its mimicking i guess.
Mine had the slightest of vodafone branding on it logo when it loaded and a my web key as the right shortcut tho it was debranded and made generic before i even added my contacts
it is unlocked as well as it currently has my 02 sim in it while i wait for my pro rata minutes/data plan to become full so i dont get stung with a first big bill.
Having acquired the n97 and the e75 means my samsung innov8, nokia e71 and sony ericsson xperia will all be headed to ebay. Im still keeping the touch hd as ill use that to update contact photos through facebook using spb 3 but at the moment im just thanking god i can see my screen in direct sunlight which the touch hd was dreadful at unless you turned the brightness right up which then ate your battery life!
Posted by adnansanni
Congratulation @dgable,
Could you post some pictures by taken with your phone and also some pictures of your new white monster?
Posted by dgable
@ adnansanni Sure will when I get home from work tonight
Posted by adnansanni
@dgable: thanks man, we are waiting......
Posted by dgable
ok 2 pics from the n97 first rather blurry im afraid as i was in a rush and believe me im no photographer!
[ This Message was edited by: dgable on 2009-06-30 19:47 ]
Posted by dgable
took some pics with the i8510 but esato said the files were too big
so i used the e75 instead
[ This Message was edited by: dgable on 2009-06-30 20:12 ]
Posted by dgable
ok the one with the n97 in are obviously taken by the e75 the others were taken with the n97
Posted by shanespencer
I'd like to mirror the comments by dgable, although I got a black one SIM-free rather than the white one. The keyboard is really nice, but it's not for everyone, it seems. Startup RAM is about 45MB, although this tends to drop down to about 25-28MB after a while. This doesn't slow the phone down though. Hopefully a future firmware update (there's one out tomorrow) will boost a RAM a little.
Battery life is pretty good, IMO. On Sunday I was out with it, and I made a few short calls, went on Facebook, posted to Twitter a few times and took some photos - the battery didn't start to drop until the next morning!
Here are a couple of images I took:
Posted by voda_jon
i also got a black one the other day and have to say i love it... battery life is great, camera is ok and touchscreen is good.
Hoping as well that the RAM is upped a bit in the FW update but using taskman in a clever way helps with low RAM moments.
Posted by 5nak3
45mb ram on start up? Doesn't that seem a bit low. My P1 currently has 65-70mb on start up after loading the necessary programs it drops to about 60-65mb and after a couple of days it goes to about 50-55mb.
I'd be looking forward to the update in regards to the firmware and ram usage when you guys get a chance.
Also is there anyway of getting some full size snaps from the phone?
Many thanks
Posted by GUCCI.011
You can get upto 60mb RAM with the Widgets turned off if you want more RAM AFAIK.
Posted by adnansanni
@dgable: nice pictures man. Thanks for that. Is your E71 fully black?
@shanespencer: nice outdoor pics. Could you post your unit picture? Actually I’m planning to get one within few days but can’t decide which one I should go (black/white).
@voda_jon: congratulation buddy. Please write a small review.
There is new firmware out today. If you update your device please inform us, how much it improves.
Posted by dgable
@ adnansanni - thanks dude no my e71 is the chrome version with charcoal keypad a lady in work had the all black e71 on orange and it was very nice!
Tried the firmware update before and it looks like its not out yet for the uk variant as it said my phone was already upto date.
Can't say i've had any issues with lack of ram yet but them i've nothing to install on it until the n97 is hacked!
on a side note my e75 died this morn had to do a hard reset checked the firmware on NSU for e75 and that was upto date too
Posted by voda_jon
Well this is my first proper full day using the phone as my main phone and here is my little review about it!
Looks
Its not to everyones liking but i find butch, industrial style phones to be quite appealing. There is a good weight to this handset and that again is a plus for me... Never feels like i'm going to lose it and it also doesnt feel cheap one little bit!
Using the Handset
The phone i used before this was an iPhone 3G. The touchscreen on the N97 is Resistive in comparison to the iPhone capacitive screen is not as good but still is very usable and good at recognising all the gestures needed to operate the phone. You do have to press the screen a little to select items but thats Resistive touchscreens for yeh!
The operating system is not great. It needs a lot of work doing to it to make it more usable... Take selecting options in the menu. Some require one press some require two... gets a bit confusing sometimes!!!!
Apart from being a touchscreen its basically Series 60 but more touchy!!!
Battery Life
I've had it on all day today with wifi searching on. I recieved 34 sms, 2 mms, 4 calls totaling just under 15 mins, and kept checking twitter and facebook about 15 times during the day. The batter hasnt reduced by anything on the screen itself!!!
Overall opinion
I like this phone a lot! and hope that the new fw will increase the RAM available and maybe increase the overall operating speed a bit... FW V11 isnt available on NSU yet but once i have this updated i will review again to see the differences....
Oh and did i mention... 32Gb of built in storage and after adding my new 16gb micro SD card i now have 48Gb of storage available to me!!! BONUS!
@dgable.... doesnt need to be hacked... i av installed a few cracked apps on the N97 no problems... just switch the install menu from signed only to all... works a treat!
[ This Message was edited by: voda_jon on 2009-07-01 19:30 ]
Posted by voda_jon
Ok so am waiting for this firmware update to go live as the phone locking issue is doing my head in... not a huge problem but nevermind.
Still loving this phone a lot and this FW update will make it an even more enjoyable experience!!!
Posted by shanespencer
@adnansanni Here are some full-size examples. Not the best, I'll admit, but they'll give you some idea...
In the garden, in the evening (slightly low light)
http://shanespencer.co.uk/n97/garden.jpg
A toy bear in the kitchen. Sitting in a dark kitchen, with only a small lamp on (flash fired)
http://shanespencer.co.uk/n97/pooh.jpg
Taken in the hall, which was in total darkness
http://shanespencer.co.uk/n97/hall.jpg
I'm not too impressed with the last one; a xenon flash would clearly improve the situation. Having said that, I'm not really using the N97 as my 'camera', so I don't really have high expectations. It's nice to have, but my LX3 is small enough to carry around in my pocket for photos.
I updated my firmware this evening, and all seems good. I never really had the lock/unlock bug, so there's no improvement there. The screen seems more responsive - I noticed that right away. As for RAM, there isn't much of an improvement in my case. Actually, I still had 46MB of RAM free with the widgets loaded. I can still do everything that I want on the N97 without it crashing or slowing down so again, no problems for me.
@voda_jon: I don't know if you've read some of the threads on other forums, but it seems that many who have changed their product codes to debrand their Vodafone N97s have bricked their phones when updating, so if yours is a Vodafone model and you're thinking of upgrading, you might want to tread carefully. I was really worried before updating mine, but the temptation to upgrade was too great!
Posted by 5nak3
Thank you for the full size snaps. I must admit the first one is not that bad at all.
Given that I would never expect to use that as a dedicated camera for night shots and would be taking morning, afternoon and early evening shots it would seem to be suitable for these types of pictures.
How was the shutter lag on this? If i remember correctly the N95 on one of the older firmwares had a horrid shutter lag, which would require the camera to remain very still to process the image accordingly.
Is it the same here?
Posted by shanespencer
Oh, that's a good question! There may well be some shutter lag, but I guess the fact that I haven't noticed it or even thought about it should tell you that if there is any lag, it isn't much.
I've just sat here and tested the time it takes to a) take a picture after opening the lens cover and b) process an image after snapping. The answer (in my case, anyway) is 4-5 seconds for both. That is, the focus will kick in 4-5 seconds after opening the cover, and you'll have to wait 4-5 seconds for the photo to be process. That's at maximum resolution, by the way.
Posted by senninha
i'm thinking of getting an N97 but i have a question: if i load 2000+ songs in the phone, does the music player take a long time to start up? my previous experience with nokias was that when i'd load a substantial amount of files, it would take the apps quite a while to start up. has this been improved?
thanks!
Posted by adnansanni
@shanespencer: thanks man. I assume from your pictures that N97 can take decent pictures with efficient light. Not best but not bad. The colors are more accurate than others high-end phone IMO.
Another question: How is the total OS? Is it enough for working with only finger? Or sometime looks to need stylish?
Posted by shanespencer
@adnansanni: Yeah, the camera is fine for taking shots in good light; perfectly acceptable and like you say, the colours are pretty accurate (better than the N95's original firmware).
The OS is pretty standard S60 fare; I'd never used S60 V5 before - the most recent I'd used is S60 V3 FP1 - but I had no real issues finding my way around. As someone on another forum said, it's essentially S60 but with touch capability. It can be a little frustrating at times; some items need touching twice while others only need one touch (and there seems to be no pattern for this), and there's no multi-touch. The OS isn't as slick as the iPhone's, but I think that's to be expected.
@senninha I'm afraid I can't answer that, as I haven't loaded that much data onto my phone. I think I have about 10GB of music on mine, and the music player is fine.
Posted by voda_jon
@shanespencer... tis ok i updated via Phoenix last night so all FW V11 updated lol...
OVerall after the update my phone seems a lot quicker than before and thankfully i can lock and unlock without any problems!!!!
Posted by senninha
@shanespencer
10GB of music and no lags is indicative enough i think. thanks a lot!
Posted by shanespencer
On 2009-07-03 09:45:53, voda_jon wrote:
@shanespencer... tis ok i updated via Phoenix last night so all FW V11 updated lol...
OVerall after the update my phone seems a lot quicker than before and thankfully i can lock and unlock without any problems!!!!
Glad it worked for you! The phone is a fair bit faster with the new firmware, and I've noticed the connection management is better; the phone now asks me which connection to use when I turn the phone on - it didn't do that with v10.
Have you noticed an improvement in the touch screen sensitivity?
Posted by voda_jon
yeh its much more responsive. havent needed to reclick at any stage upto now...
Posted by adnansanni
Do they omit the double click option?
I’ve read that multi touch support has been added with the new firmware from another blog or forum.
“The paint application has been updated to show this in practical use, and photos can be zoomed in and out by squashing or streching the image. Again the knowledge base was updated to provide developers the new input fuction should they wish to take advantage.”
Can you confirm that?
[ This Message was edited by: adnansanni on 2009-07-03 19:21 ]
Posted by shanespencer
No, there's no multi-touch support. That changelog was a hoax, sadly
Posted by voda_jon
just downloaded handy mobileshell and i gotta say its great!!!! much better than buil in homescreen and phones runs quicker as not using widgets anymore lol...
still loving this phone a lot!
Posted by sam9953
i think this phone is a great phone for those who can afford it.
Posted by voda_jon
got it for nothing
and not even an upgrade. thank you NOKIA!
Posted by Mr Miyagi
PM me to let me know how i can get one for nothing too please. thanks
lol
On 2009-07-05 22:12:45, voda_jon wrote:
got it for nothing
and not even an upgrade. thank you NOKIA!
Posted by 5nak3
Getting it for nothing...this intrigues me as well!