Posted by Hobbs
you see,in those pics the x1 and n97 seem to be getting on fine together,so why cant everyone else.lol (you could say getting on a bit to well by the look of some of those shots.lol)
Posted by gforce23
On 2008-12-03 20:36:01, Gizmo47 wrote:
The processor clock speed is 369 Mhz.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1616
Wow! No OMAP3 then? That is SLOW.
Posted by razec
On 2008-12-04 07:53:03, gforce23 wrote:
On 2008-12-03 20:36:01, Gizmo47 wrote:
The processor clock speed is 369 Mhz.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1616
Wow! No OMAP3 then? That is SLOW.
Even the 330Mhz OMAP2 chips used in G810/innov8/N82/N95series and E90 totally obliterates that CPU performance wise. no wonder why Quake developers require phones that utilizes those chipsets. as i see it the reason why they choose to use the same CPU as with 6220classic/5800XM/N85/N79 is to reduce production cost as well as to provide slightly better battery performance.
Posted by Alpha Trion
Seeing the X1 & N97 side by side i just cant help but comment on how well thought-out the X1 qwerty layout is.
This is really bugging me now about the N97 though i do like the look of the thumb pad.
Posted by Dextrr
The X1 looks better than the N97? Yeah right! The X1 looks like a brick compared to the svelte-curvy N97 IMFHO. Can't believe how tiny and "thin" the X1's screen looks compared to the N97. It looks outdated too.
All Nokia was missing was a Touch Interface, big screen and a proper QWERTY. After seeing the N97, all these issues seem to be addressed.
It's funny how SE fanboys are dissing this great kit and claiming that the X1 is better. A circa 2004 3MP camera, WM 6.1 and generic 'rectangle' design made by HTC all that for $~800 is a great deal eh?
I have the E71 and it's a brilliant phone. I used to think it if had all the multimedia features of an N-series device, it'd be the perfect phone for me and many like me that need a QWERTY. The touchscreen and CZ 5 MP cameras are an added bonus. I have found my next device in the N97.
Posted by Miss UK
Tut wheres the 8MP camera
Posted by se_dude
LOL.Sweet curvy N97??
The N97 is a revamped version of the arc slider X1. And moreover, the materials look camn cheap when compared to the full metal solutionof the X1. Now if you want to argue on that, be my guest. But, the pic compared a black X1 a white N97, not sure if thats the right way to compare two devices regarding looks.
Newaz, by the time this arrives, the X1 will truly be "old"
Posted by GUCCI.011
On 2008-12-05 04:13:12, se_dude wrote:
Newaz, by the time this arrives, the X1 will truly be "old"
Its already truly old.
considering its NOKIA rival the E90 had similar specs over a year ago.
Totaly agree with Dexterr, but in looks thats personal taste. I like both X1 AND N97 in design, at the end id probably take the N97 due to the rounded edges.
LOL N97 a revampd X1 design? WTF!? What crap, Doesnt it take like 12months to design these phones? So technicaly the N97 had already been designed before the X1 was announced. The N97 design is perfect for a Multimedia device, it will make watching movies great on the N97 and realy nice to text with, HTC had a great idea with this slide and tilt design on TyTN-II.
Posted by GUCCI.011
Here are the details on the CPU used in NOKIAs newer phones eg. N78, N79, N81, N85, 5800xm, N97 etc. . . . Here: http://www.freescale.com/weba[....]rod_summary.jsp?code=MXC300-30
Posted by borisisinvin
Nokia being market leader? Puh-leez! Samsung and SE are.. Nokia has its stocks fell down last Q2 and Q3. Lol.
And Engadget hates Nokia... Srsly.
I thought selling the most phones (or anything else, dependent on what your wares are) in the world made you the market leader? Sure Nokia's market share fell, but it's still sells the most phones worldwide, right? I would like to think that it's market share fell thanks to improved competition from the likes of Apple, RIM, and HTC in the Smart Phone area this year. Believe it or not, this IS A GOOD THING FOR THE CONSUMERS last time I checked. That means that companies like Nokia and SE have to try EVEN harder to get our hard earned monies. It keeps giants like Nokia on their toes, and means we'll be getting the best possible stuff for all of our hard earned dollars. Yay everyone wins with more bang for their bucks!
That's funny you should mention Engadget here, because I hate Engadget. It's full of trolls, Apple on Microsoft flamers, and Playstation on Xbox flamers. I've always been more of Gizmodo reader myself.
@ everyone else, please stop feeding the trolls for all of our sakes, we don't want this place turning out like the Engadget comment's section do we?...
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Posted by Prom1
On 2008-12-02 11:12:27, Mizzle wrote:
I'm getting one. I think.
I thought I'd never see the day where Mizzle would be interested in a Nokia, let alone S60.
On 2008-12-02 18:59:24, se_dude wrote:
Yea totally.Full metal X1 vs a plastic N97.
Dude, its SHEET metal, not thick like 1950's cars are. Sure I love metal just as much as the next guy, but I have YET to see any company open about showing its rigurous testing for product durability such as Nokia. Care to respond to that?
On 2008-12-02 21:03:20, Mr Miyagi wrote:
This phone in my opinion design wise is another copy of the x1 and the google g1 phone. why all the same kind of design? can't nokia bring up some thing else like a better design of their own?
Another blind SE fan. Young apprentice, the SE Xperia X1 design is a copy of any other HTC WM smartphone; because it was built by HTC. Most likely it wsa a design decision by HTC, since SE rejected the slide & tilt, and HTC accomodated with the ARC slider. I have YET to see SE state that the ARC slider was their design, instead of a first used by them.
@respah,
You really need to understand that if a stock drops, it doesn't have an immediate and direct correlation to marketshare. RIM continued to beat analyst expectations on phone sales & revenue for the past 3 QTRS yet their stock price has dropped the past 2 QTRS. I suggest you look up a companies history of at least 3yrs on GoogleFinance before making yourself sound like incompetitent - unless joking is your intention. I'm not here to insult you, but by responses from others I'm not the only one that perceives you "acting" this way.
@Everyone!
I don't feel markeshare is an accurate measure of a manufacturers worth. Its ONLY a good measure when comparing sales - initially for the first 2yrs or less to its competitors when they first enter a market. Case in point: look at iPhones increasing marketshare - its exploding (much to my distaste). One has to analyze how it can gain in countries where S60 is king - especially in a marketplace that is close to if not already saturation = i read a report that in the UK, statistically every person above age 16 owns at least 1 phone and changes their phone model/brand within a 6-8mth time period. This fist with when the iPhone was released in the UK and the other 21 countries this year (besides the USA). Now, marketshare doesn't help accurately predict that a phone manufacturer's worth altogether. Many of these users purchase the iPhone on contract with minimal initial buyout & thus even a curious passive user can purchase a 2nd phone (2nd to S60, WM, BlackBerry, or Palm). Marketshare doesn't evaluate correctly whether or not this iPhone purchase in my example is for a daughter/son, or on a family shared plan or even the same user. ONLY sales of devices, or delivered devices to any provider or retail (sales from there), accurately show a manufacturer's worth or the choice of their OS. Lastly many users don't upgrade in that 8mth cycle and stick with their phone of choice. New users purchasing a new phone/OS doesn't reflect this - and them damaging their phones and going to a fallback.
Posted by Yakkaimono
Can't understand why some of you guys are putting this device down at every chance you get.
Of course it doesn't have any groundbraking new technologies but it's still a really well balanced out phone. Imo it's looking like it could be one of the best multimedia device till fall 09.
Posted by se_dude
Durability like Nokia??
i am sure you are referring to the low end phones made by Nokia, coz they are simply great.
My experience with nokia
5700- I am a heavy texter and after 6 months one of the keys went kaput. never happened to any SE set of mine.
N81-Had pathetic build quality, the slider moved horiantally almost the same as it did verticaly. Had a terrible time with either of them.
Now, I cant say the same for SE really,.These are the two brands i ever used, and th onyl SE that gave me any sort of a problem was K850 , and that too were software problems. So, please dont say that Nokias have awesome build quality blah blah, they have for a specific few models, but i wont go and honour the full N-series on this matter
[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2008-12-06 02:26 ]
Posted by SloopJohnB
Is there anything new in this new OS besides widgets? I now itīs a touch device but itīs resistive touch and sorry but thatīs outdated. Itīs slower, less accurate and less responsive. Whatīs new in the software??
Posted by QVGA
On 2008-12-06 03:46:25, SloopJohnB wrote:
Itīs slower, less accurate and less responsive. Whatīs new in the software??
yeah because when nokia thought of making a TS phone, they probably noted down all the worst case scenarios of a TS phone and implemented them into their flag ship!
Posted by GUCCI.011
Strange. Ive owned a N81 for a full year, no serious build quality problems, its actualy a VERY durable phone, my slider is a little shakey but thats it. My K850 on the other hand squeeks at the bottom by the batt cover PLUS it had terrible software probs, both my mates with W850s had their dpads crack with in a month, lets not even speak of the famous S500 and W580. Mates K800 keypad paint peeled off with in 1st few months and then died within 5months. Atleast when NOKIA use metal it DOES NOT CRACK eg. E71, E66, E90 etc. . .unlike some manufacturers current "flagship" PPC.
Posted by islandprd
Dont tell me no one ever see peeled and cracked Nokia
Condition and durability ares very much based on users.
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Posted by GUCCI.011
Over time they do peel. But dpads and keys cracking with in 1st few months is a little odd.
Posted by islandprd
Dont you think that topic is a bit old?
FYI that N958Gb also few months
It boils down what it is intended for, form, thickness, weight etc. Some people are bad luck. Some dont
[ This Message was edited by: islandprd on 2008-12-06 09:05 ]
Posted by GUCCI.011
On 2008-12-06 09:45:18, islandprd wrote:
Dont you think that topic is a bit old?
FYI that N958Gb also few months
It boils down what it is intended for, form, thickness, weight etc. Some people are bad luck. Some dont
[ This Message was edited by: islandprd on 2008-12-06 09:05 ]
I totaly agree, but if you remember the W850 had a whole topic of how its dpad would crack quickly, and we all know about W580 and S500 keys. What im trying to point out is that SEs also have poor build quality issues with certain models just like NOKIA.
Posted by Dogmann
@se_dude
Wow talk about selective memory when you can say stuff like
"Yea totally.Full metal X1 vs a plastic N97"
Is this the same totally metal build quality with sharp edges? with peeling paint? with cracking stylus silos, with battery covers that just pop off then? as reported by so many users all over the Forums. All in a device that is so fresh to market so who knows what will happen 6 months or further down the line. Never mind the software glitches or the failure to deliver what they said the panels would be. But your right it looks good so who cares about any of the important things after all we don't want to use it just look flash.
Oh yes and the K850 was such a stunning success which is why SE caned it early and of course SE have never had cracking keyboard issues on any phones either. It must be good to only remember what you find suits your argument and conveniently forget the rest.
But then with a name like se_dude what else could we expect about anything to do with SE but only positives.
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Posted by se_dude
Haha.When the XPERIA was announced they had truckloads of people there bashing it up.Anyways, the N97 is not yet out, it will be when half the people will be bored with their X1 and Touch Pro and after most manufacturers have announced newer and better phones. WTF!! In june SE and Samsung are scheduled to announce their 12 mp beast while Nokia is still on a standstill. The no of issues i have heard about the N85 now are less than what i have heard of the X1 yet, the N85 came later in india.
Posted by QVGA
On 2008-12-06 13:08:40, Dogmann wrote:
@se_dude
But then with a name like se_dude what else could we expect about anything to do with SE but only positives.
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-12-06 12:08 ]
yes exactly, so why bother arguing with him? he's just an attention whore, so leave him be.
Posted by MWEB
Fairs fair, at least Mizzle (who has a strong SE background) has the honesty and intellect to know a decent phone when he sees one, as opposed to certain other members who display an almost psychotic fixation and hatred for anything with a Nokia label.
Posted by C905
Exactly MWEB
I mean, I also like SE phones better than nokia, but this phone is a very nice addition, indeed. The only thing I want is that it should be released a bit earlier, and the resolution of the screen could also be a bit better. But then again, you simply cant have every thing.
Even the design is good, compared to 5800
Posted by Dups!
The last few pages of this thread make me realise why I don't visit esato as much as I used to.
Anyway, the N97 is average when one considers what's on the market already. The pluses
for me are the generous memory and the fact that it is symbian.
As for quality issues, every manufacturer has them even though SE is guilty of too many of them. SE needs to tighten up on quality control urgently.
The interesting thing is this notion that Nokia's upcoming high end will not have challenges. I keep reading about the E90 replacement as thought the other manufacturers are sitting with their hands folded. We are likely to be faced with more competitors to the E90 successor than before.
Though the X1 is windows but it is roughly the same as the N97 (in specs) which begs the question- what is the X1's successor going to be like?
As much as the E90 was no that different in specs to the X1 the N97 does exactly as the X1 did in relation to the E90.
Posted by Miss UK
What the hecks happened to that N95-2 above
Posted by Bonovox
I have not had a Nokia for a while last one was 6300 and before that the N73. I love Nokia as much as SE though i have to agree that SE quality control is quite poor lately.
Posted by Prom1
On 2008-12-06 03:25:13, se_dude wrote:
Durability like Nokia??
i am sure you are referring to the low end phones made by Nokia, coz they are simply great.
My experience with nokia
5700- I am a heavy texter and after 6 months one of the keys went kaput. never happened to any SE set of mine.
N81-Had pathetic build quality, the slider moved horiantally almost the same as it did verticaly. Had a terrible time with either of them.
Now, I cant say the same for SE really,.These are the two brands i ever used, and th onyl SE that gave me any sort of a problem was K850 , and that too were software problems. So, please dont say that Nokias have awesome build quality blah blah, they have for a specific few models, but i wont go and honour the full N-series on this matter
[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2008-12-06 02:26 ]
No I'm refering to high end Nokia phones.
E71 - which I personally owned and dropped twice! check my blog 2-3mths ago to see pictures of cracked screen with working LCD - non damaged. Check out over the web WHY the E71 is selling VERY EXCEPTIONALLy well - beyond Nokia's hopes/expectations. Check build quality; hardly any issues (1 person on Nokia Forums rambles on about complaints for everything you can imagine with 4 ppl in agreement; yet he gets another which doesn't exihibit ANY of those issues. This is not a case situation for any company)
- The only real issue is a gap under the LCD glass cover where the keys meets and light shines through. Easily ignored, just about all E71's have this. Unsure why.
N85 - again a quality built device. Only issue is DPad is so hard to press, not normal for Nokia (yet limited to China built models). 3mm "play" on the slide mechanism - which is acceptable and nowhere close to issues with the N95's.
N79 - no compaints I've seen yet over the web, yet not that popular. Testing center that The Smartphone Show filmed shows the N79 going through CRAZY testing.
* http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/sshow/ss69.html
or
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]ukonline.co.uk/sshow/ss69.html
Yes Steve Lichtfield is Nokia biased, lately he's been opening up his mind to other phones and gives the
C905 serious praise!
Posted by Bonovox
Nokia 6300 6500 Slide 6500 Classic 6600 Slide etc they all have good build. Its the same with Nokia or SE some models are bad some are great.
Posted by Prom1
On 2008-12-06 09:00:03, islandprd wrote:
Dont tell me no one ever see peeled and cracked Nokia
Condition and durability ares very much based on users.
[ This Message was edited by: islandprd on 2008-12-06 08:00 ]
That is either an N95-2/4 with the soft-finish backing. Those are very prone to start peeling when ppl with oily hands use them. When the absorbed oil begins to dry, the soft-felt-like backing begins to peel. This is over time though. Unfortunately we don't know the abuse if any this phone has gone through unless its yours. This soft-touch finish was pioneered by Motorola on the V300 model a few years ago.
On 2008-12-06 23:40:00, Bonovox wrote:
Nokia 6300 6500 Slide 6500 Classic 6600 Slide etc they all have good build. Its the same with Nokia or SE some models are bad some are great.
well said! Thank you!
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Posted by se_dude
What I have been trying to say for the last 10 pages of posting is that the N97 is scheduled to arrive May 09, and comparisons to the X1 or for regard, any of the phones in the market is totally incomprehendable.It is a good phone, but people here are trying to blow it beyond words.
As of now, the Innov8 is the most powerful symbian phone till date.No Nokia comes close to challenge its usperiority.We will havea valid discussion when the phone emerges in the summer.
On 2008-12-06 14:54:50, QVGA wrote:
yes exactly, so why bother arguing with him? he's just an attention whore, so leave him be.
I guess this language comes naturally to you,and I dont blame you
[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2008-12-07 04:40 ]
Posted by QVGA
what you're trying to do is to bash N97 only by looking at its pics. you went as far as to call it a phone with bad built quality.
dont talk to me about language, we have ample proof of what kind of person you really are and your true colors. go blow your trumpet somewhere else, because we're not interested.
Posted by Dextrr
On 2008-12-07 05:39:04, se_dude wrote:
What I have been trying to say for the last 10 pages of posting is that the N97 is scheduled to arrive May 09, and comparisons to the X1 or for regard, any of the phones in the market is totally incomprehendable.It is a good phone, but people here are trying to blow it beyond words.
As of now, the Innov8 is the most powerful symbian phone till date.No Nokia comes close to challenge its usperiority.We will havea valid discussion when the phone emerges in the summer.
On 2008-12-06 14:54:50, QVGA wrote:
yes exactly, so why bother arguing with him? he's just an attention whore, so leave him be.
I guess this language comes naturally to you,and I dont blame you
[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2008-12-07 04:40 ]
Ermmm - Aside from the wonderful-better-than-C905 8mp cam, you do realize it uses S60 which is ALMOST the same as what all Nokia smartphone have. So you praising the INNOV8 is like praising S60 and indirectly Nokia which now owns 99% of Symbian. I love this guy and his rational. He's gonna have a fit when his beloved SE uses Symbian in the not so distant future. Hardware/Body made by SE - Software/Soul made by Nokia.
And the INNOV8 doesn't have a touchscreen which is a definate plus and favors the N97 IMFO.
I remember how SE fanboys used to bash Nokia for lack of a touchscreen. Since, that's been taken care of, all they have left to rag on is the 'build quality' even if SE's isn't any better either.
Posted by driftmania
And Samsung's S60 phones doesn't have nearly as much support as Nokia's, like updates, and compatibility with software.
Posted by djin
Nokia releases loads of updates because their phones need it! When n96 came out, they released 3 updates within the first month itself! Why? Because it was so buggy(if u wanna have proof, go to nokia forum and check out how may ppl whined about this phone) and it still is....
Innov8's condition was better than this.
However, i hope N97 wont have this same problem.
Posted by se_dude
On 2008-12-07 07:17:35, Dextrr wrote:
On 2008-12-07 05:39:04, se_dude wrote:
What I have been trying to say for the last 10 pages of posting is that the N97 is scheduled to arrive May 09, and comparisons to the X1 or for regard, any of the phones in the market is totally incomprehendable.It is a good phone, but people here are trying to blow it beyond words.
As of now, the Innov8 is the most powerful symbian phone till date.No Nokia comes close to challenge its usperiority.We will havea valid discussion when the phone emerges in the summer.
On 2008-12-06 14:54:50, QVGA wrote:
yes exactly, so why bother arguing with him? he's just an attention whore, so leave him be.
I guess this language comes naturally to you,and I dont blame you
[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2008-12-07 04:40 ]
Ermmm - Aside from the wonderful-better-than-C905 8mp cam, you do realize it uses S60 which is ALMOST the same as what all Nokia smartphone have. So you praising the INNOV8 is like praising S60 and indirectly Nokia which now owns 99% of Symbian. I love this guy and his rational. He's gonna have a fit when his beloved SE uses Symbian in the not so distant future. Hardware/Body made by SE - Software/Soul made by Nokia.
And the INNOV8 doesn't have a touchscreen which is a definate plus and favors the N97 IMFO.
I remember how SE fanboys used to bash Nokia for lack of a touchscreen. Since, that's been taken care of, all they have left to rag on is the 'build quality' even if SE's isn't any better either.
Really man, you rock. The so called 8 mp cam is the biggest trump of the Innov8 and yopu are telling me to discount that??..
Btw, i know you are a bit shortsighted, but you should have noticed that i mentoned, "as of now" for phones that are in the market.Lets keep this bashing and smashing till this phone is available, which is almost 4 motnhs away.You Nokia fanboys can churn the cud as much as you want, but its just Nokia being late in introducing the already available technology in the market.Period.
Posted by GUCCI.011
On 2008-12-07 18:51:53, djin wrote:
Nokia releases loads of updates because their phones need it! When n96 came out, they released 3 updates within the first month itself! Why? Because it was so buggy(if u wanna have proof, go to nokia forum and check out how may ppl whined about this phone) and it still is....
Innov8's condition was better than this.
However, i hope N97 wont have this same problem.
Well atleast they make the effort to update buggy phones until they are stable eg. N95, and N78.
BUT N73, N81, E51, E65, N95-8GB, N82, etc. . .werent that buggy but are STILL getting updates, new features, etc. . . .
Atleast if i get a buggy NOKIA S60 im confident that NOKIA will continue to update until they have fixed it and in the process they will add little things here and there to improve the user experience.
Last i checked the Innov8 did have some bugs, but are the users who bought it at such an expensive price guaranteed it will all be fixed? I doubt it. Did the G810 even get updates?
Posted by C905
So, what do think of the design? To be honest, I quite like the design and it is, designwise, somewhat more simple than 5800, for instance, which is positive, that is!
Posted by borisisinvin
On 2008-12-06 03:46:25, SloopJohnB wrote:
Is there anything new in this new OS besides widgets? I now itīs a touch device but itīs resistive touch and sorry but thatīs outdated. Itīs slower, less accurate and less responsive. Whatīs new in the software??
Wait, are we still talking about the X1?.... lol
@ C905 I can kind of see some similarities between the N97 and the X1 like others have mentioned, however in the pics on this thread where someone posted them side by side, the build quality and looks of the X1 look ages ahead of the N97. I was stunned when I first took my X1 out of it's box and held it in hand whilr I held it next to my N95 in my other hand. Like Apple, SE truly knows how to make premium feeling and looking devices. Compared to my X1 the N95 now feels like a Fisher Price toy, as will the N97 I suspect. I only wish my X1 performed like it looked, no doubt that the N97 will beat it hands down in this area with it's superior usability and functions (mostly thanks to a touch enabled S60 interface). The N97's design and materials look a little too generic and pedestrian to me. The whole design aesthetic is so meme, in regards to what other phone manufacturers are now doing with their own touch screen enabled phones (thanks for that one Apple), which is part of the reason why I was so drawn to the X1 design to begin with. No one here can deny SE's design elegance and pedigree in regards to the design decisions and execution of the X1! With the exception of Apple, I'm of the honest opinion that SE makes the best damn looking phones out there PERIOD, too bad design isn't all that it takes to make a phone great...
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Posted by Mizzle
On 2008-12-06 15:01:26, MWEB wrote:
Fairs fair, at least Mizzle (who has a strong SE background) has the honesty and intellect to know a decent phone when he sees one, as opposed to certain other members who display an almost psychotic fixation and hatred for anything with a Nokia label.
Yep, I've said I'm impressed, but feature wise it doesn't top X1 in my book. I'm fairly sure I'm getting N97 anyway, though, even though I hardly think I'll end up using it that much.
Was the same thing with the N95. When they announce something good, I'm not one to stay with the old stuff, and will make the move ASAP. Nokia, for me, is the manufacturer with the second best products, and when I think about changing my main phone to one of another brand, Nokia is the first and only brand, apart from HTC, I'm considering.
Posted by djin
Gucci,
never mind... this threads been off topic for long time.
But yeah, nice phone. If se doesnt get off with some good phone next year then this could be the one i might be buying, if its the best around then(but there r better ones coming too)..
Posted by Dextrr
On 2008-12-07 19:10:19, se_dude wrote:
On 2008-12-07 07:17:35, Dextrr wrote:
On 2008-12-07 05:39:04, se_dude wrote:
What I have been trying to say for the last 10 pages of posting is that the N97 is scheduled to arrive May 09, and comparisons to the X1 or for regard, any of the phones in the market is totally incomprehendable.It is a good phone, but people here are trying to blow it beyond words.
As of now, the Innov8 is the most powerful symbian phone till date.No Nokia comes close to challenge its usperiority.We will havea valid discussion when the phone emerges in the summer.
On 2008-12-06 14:54:50, QVGA wrote:
yes exactly, so why bother arguing with him? he's just an attention whore, so leave him be.
I guess this language comes naturally to you,and I dont blame you
[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2008-12-07 04:40 ]
Ermmm - Aside from the wonderful-better-than-C905 8mp cam, you do realize it uses S60 which is ALMOST the same as what all Nokia smartphone have. So you praising the INNOV8 is like praising S60 and indirectly Nokia which now owns 99% of Symbian. I love this guy and his rational. He's gonna have a fit when his beloved SE uses Symbian in the not so distant future. Hardware/Body made by SE - Software/Soul made by Nokia.
And the INNOV8 doesn't have a touchscreen which is a definate plus and favors the N97 IMFO.
I remember how SE fanboys used to bash Nokia for lack of a touchscreen. Since, that's been taken care of, all they have left to rag on is the 'build quality' even if SE's isn't any better either.
Really man, you rock. The so called 8 mp cam is the biggest trump of the Innov8 and yopu are telling me to discount that??..
Btw, i know you are a bit shortsighted, but you should have noticed that i mentoned, "as of now" for phones that are in the market.Lets keep this bashing and smashing till this phone is available, which is almost 4 motnhs away.You Nokia fanboys can churn the cud as much as you want, but its just Nokia being late in introducing the already available technology in the market.Period.
Oh man, this guy is incredible. The only thing that mesmerizes and oooh aaah's him is the # of MP a phone's camera has. How can I take you seriously kid?! Why don't you bash the X1 'cause it only has an itsy bitsy 3MP camera.
This phone is aimed at people that like to keep in touch on the go trough various way of messaging and internet. It's a not a camera phone! Get it genius?
You SE fanboys waited almost a year for the HTC made X1, I think I can wait 4 months (according to you since you have insider info).
Anyway, moving on to a more serious discussion. I love my E71 and the N97 is perfect with the QWERTY and Multimedia. I always liked the X1 for it's multimedia and messaging capabilities but hated WM6.1. Now I have a similarly made device in the N97 BUT with S60. Best of both worlds!
Posted by orange
On 2008-12-05 04:13:12, se_dude wrote:
LOL.Sweet curvy N97??
The N97 is a revamped version of the arc slider X1.
Quite interesting to say that as N97 is not a slider at all. There's no slide mechanism in the device. However, there's two hinges that tilts the display. But, yes in a way they have revamped the slider...By removing it totally!!
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Posted by Bonovox
If you go and read Stuff mag this month there is an article about this phone. It looks completely different to what we see here. It actually looks better than what the pics show here. Anyone know of this.
Posted by amnesia
comes in white. I'll buy it
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Posted by Bonovox
Thanks for clearing that up i was confused. And yes Stuff's version did look amazing they should hand that design over to Nokia.
Posted by Prom1
On 2008-12-07 22:54:37, Mizzle wrote:
Yep, I've said I'm impressed, but feature wise it doesn't top X1 in my book. I'm fairly sure I'm getting N97 anyway, though, even though I hardly think I'll end up using it that much.
Was the same thing with the N95. When they announce something good, I'm not one to stay with the old stuff, and will make the move ASAP. Nokia, for me, is the manufacturer with the second best products, and when I think about changing my main phone to one of another brand, Nokia is the first and only brand, apart from HTC, I'm considering.
Common! The N97 outguns the X1 "feature" wise all the way through - save for the 1) metal keys, and 2) screen resolution. Clarity will be the key deciding factor upon initial purchase & price for those choosing between the two. But I think for you Mizzle, its the software that enables how you USE the features on the X1 that the N97 may/may not be able to provide - due to varying software availability. Again I feel features = mostly hardware + enhanced by what software enables a user to enjoy that hardware or influence/change how we use that hardware. But thats just my opinion, definately not law.
Posted by voda_jon
having just re-read this whole thread just a couple of points from an impartial spectator...
1. Both manufacturers have had problems with quality control. Nokia had big probs with keypads lifting on 5500 sport phones, SE had big probs with the S500's keypads cracking but both companies sorted this out pretty quickly!!!
2. Software issues will always plague smart phones. Companies want to release the phones as quickly as they can and due to human error (which is the cause of software probs) some issues will get through the testing. Take Nokia releasing the N78 quickly, it had big problems with sms storage and freezing but this was sorted out pretty quickly again. Same with SE and some of their phones that have software issues.
3. Both companies are going to have different roadmaps of which direction they want the company to go down and every now and then they are going to cross and release similiar handsets. Nokia tend not to be so ahead of everyone anymore when they release their 'flagship' handsets they seem to use reliable parts that they can source cheaper than the latest megapixel cam module. SE seem to do very similiar things but also have introduced the lines of bringing in distinct sections to the market like walkman phones and cybershot phones.
4. Usergroups for both of these phones are going to be very different and one person may find something that is amazing and another person could find it the worst thing ever. Thats life!
And finally cant everyone just like what they like and give their thoughts without it turning into a flaming war and just discuss what is good about THIS phone and THIS phone only!!! it is a nokia n97 discussion not a lets compare everyother phone to this phone before its released!