C905 CamDriver Modded - Esato archive

Posted by Bryan84

On 2009-11-05 03:52:44, robolee wrote:
look neat but i will wait for a full ver of 3.8

Same here

Posted by dobrizmaj
dm did a great job here...driver is really good, i was so happy when i saw everything he putted in this one...

lots, and lots of manual settings, and original settings are also there...it`s amazing...can`t wait for full version...

DM, thank you!!!!!!!!

Posted by edwardob

On 2009-11-05 00:33:20, wahehe15 wrote:
@fe1ixs
thanks

@Darney76
you can combine the color correction w/ it

@dobrizmaj
thanks a lot

[ This Message was edited by: wahehe15 on 2009-11-04 23:34 ]

surely not possible.....since focus..shutter speed etc are different buttons
or have i missed something?

Posted by riksilvers
Still stuck with the en.lng file.
I put the en.lng file here - TPA / PRESET / SYSTEM / LANGUAGE
My phone is set to English......nothin changes in the menu's

I even deleted the en.lng file from the dir yet the phone was still in english!!!!!

Is there anywhere else the phone is picking up a english language file to use?
My phone is not debranded....Does that make a difference?

Posted by dobrizmaj
@edwardob:
u change settings one by one, phone will remember them...but there are some bugs(read the dm`s post

), because it`s still beta version...
@riksilvers
don`t now...i had problems with en.lng file, and i use serbian language, so i made my own sr.lng and it works perfect

...i was opening en.lng, everything was set right, i don`t now why it didn`t work...

there is one more language folder, but i don`t now what for... TPA/SYSTEM/LANGUAGE try and see if anything is there...

Posted by wahehe15
@dobrizmaj
That's Right!

Posted by rajac
@DM
Do we have 4s shutter speed now?

Posted by fe1ixs

On 2009-11-05 00:17:04, dobrizmaj wrote:

On 2009-11-04 23:10:42, wahehe15 wrote:
where is the EV?

guys can you teach me how to edit the en.lng file?

u need this:
Link text...
open program, and use it to open .lng file...
find line u want to change(i think somewhere around line 600 for camera...), and after changing every line click apply
when u finish all, click save, and that`s it...

@dobrizmaj
I tried to edit the en.lng file using the lng editor. But after the edit, my phone has no english language option anymore (replace by spanish language).
I tried to correct misspelled on the "color correcection" to color correction". any clue?

Posted by mikely_28
Easy Friends. Let's give DM some time to do his great job! Now we know what we can expect

Posted by riksilvers

dobrizmaj

@riksilvers
don`t now...i had problems with en.lng file, and i use serbian language, so i made my own sr.lng and it works perfect

...i was opening en.lng, everything was set right, i don`t now why it didn`t work...

there is one more language folder, but i don`t now what for... TPA/SYSTEM/LANGUAGE try and see if anything is there...

@dobrizmaj
I deleted the en.lng file but the phone is still in english. English is an option in the language menu which is still selected.
I changed it to German and then back to English and phone went back to English !!!

!!! but how when there is no en.lng file there ???

It's quite hard to know or to remember what the DM3.8 setting are when there's so many new functions added to the cam driver.

[ This Message was edited by: riksilvers on 2009-11-05 14:59 ]

Posted by mikely_28
OK. Some night shots:

Auto with and without flash

Macro with and without flash

Macro in dark

Posted by dobrizmaj
@fe1ixs
put original en.lng file, and see if there will be english language...

@riksilvers
absolutely have no idea...i know that lng files are in TPA/PRESET/SYSTEM/LANGUAGE, and i founded another folder TPA/SYSTEM/LANGUAGE- which is empty...i really don`t know...

Posted by fe1ixs

On 2009-11-05 16:22:42, dobrizmaj wrote:
@fe1ixs
put original en.lng file, and see if there will be english language...

@dobrizmaj
I tried to modify DM lng file. The one he provided is working correctly. I can get the english language right away after installed. The problem came after I edit his lng file using lng editor that you given. I just edit 1 line ( around line #750)
to correct the misspelled of "color correction". After I saved and installed it back, the language change to spanish. No option for english appeared on the setting menu. Wasn't a big deal if you don't know. I just playing around actually. thanks.

Posted by penguin_xp
DM 3.8

Posted by dobrizmaj

On 2009-11-05 17:02:50, fe1ixs wrote:

On 2009-11-05 16:22:42, dobrizmaj wrote:
@fe1ixs
put original en.lng file, and see if there will be english language...

good for u...
keep on playing...

Posted by wahehe15
OK guys here is the fixed en.lng of DM 3.8
I edited the "Color Correction" thing

http://www.mediafire.com/?t4z2omzjcmg

If there is something you want me too edit in the en.lng just tell me

[ This Message was edited by: wahehe15 on 2009-11-05 23:00 ]

Posted by Bryan84

On 2009-11-05 23:42:12, wahehe15 wrote:
OK guys here is the fixed en.lng of DM 3.8
I edited the "Color Correction" thing

http://www.mediafire.com/?t4z2omzjcmg

If there is something you want me too edit in the en.lng just tell me

[ This Message was edited by: wahehe15 on 2009-11-05 23:00 ]

Saving that for the final 3.8 =P thanks!

Posted by fe1ixs

On 2009-11-05 23:42:12, wahehe15 wrote:
OK guys here is the fixed en.lng of DM 3.8
I edited the "Color Correction" thing

http://www.mediafire.com/?t4z2omzjcmg

If there is something you want me too edit in the en.lng just tell me

[ This Message was edited by: wahehe15 on 2009-11-05 23:00 ]

@wahehe15
thanks for the help!

Posted by wahehe15
No problem guys

We're here to help each other

Posted by riksilvers
I've still got the problem with the en.lng file.
I deleted all the .lng files from my phone but somehow the English and As on Sim options are still showing on the menu.
Is there anyway to change the en.lng to another language but yet still be in english? It seems like my phone is reading another en.lng file from somewhere else.

Posted by wahehe15
try setting your language to english not automatic

Posted by Vit
This pictures were taken with a mixed camdriver that I set up. It has most of the good things present in DM 3.5 (like the twilight landscape mode, manual ISO and all its buffer and quality settings) but keeps some things as sharpness, colors and contrast the same as on the original driver. See if you like them. I tried to cover almost every kind of shot, from macros to landscapes, and also some night shots.

Please note that some of them benefit from DM's work on rising up the JPEG quality. One of them has 6.0 Mb!!

All those pictures and a lot more are on my Picasa page. There you'll find pictures from the unchanged DM 3.5 as well:

http://picasaweb.google.com.br/Xpresshutter

My tips for taking good pics with the C905 are:

@ night: whenever it's possible, set the camera to the Twilight Landscape mode and try to take pictures with the phone completely static. That leads to the absolute need of using the self timer function! For the slowest possible shutter, also make sure of setting the EV for the max value, + 2.0.

@ daylight: do not fancy with manual ISO here. I noticed that most of shots made in daylight conditions (even indoors in which the sunlight gets into the room) are made automatically with ISO 64. We may never reach that value for manual control because the minimum value for its register withing DM's camera driver, the number 00, refers to ISO 100. There is no way of going below that for that particular register. Remember toplay a lot with EV settings, in order to get the proper exposure to the picture. I generally use normal metering for shots with well defined and separated bright and dark areas. For shots of objects like trees, I tend to use spot metering, as it would provide the way of locking the exposure at any tiny dark or bright area whithin the picture. That is not well done by normal metering, as it calculates everything based on average values.

For those who want more sharpness than the original driver provides: Softwares for post processing pictures like the freeware Picasa 3 can do that for you. But the contrary (post processing an overly sharped pic) may not be good. So my guess is that it's better to mantain the original setting, which is quite good for most of the shots.

[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-06 22:40 ]

Posted by edwardob
vit
what do you mean?...have you made your own driver?

interesting work!

Posted by Vit

On 2009-11-06 23:03:55, edwardob wrote:
vit
what do you mean?...have you made your own driver?

interesting work!

Hello, pal! Yeah, kind of... I won't call it my driver, as it's just a mosaic of the original and DM's own driver. I won't say its better than DM's own, but I'd rather say it fulfills better my needs. Anyway, I am waiting for the final DM 3.8 in order to test his manual shutter!

Posted by edwardob
can we try it...even just for fun?

Posted by mikely_28
Vit
Great pictures! Share mixed driver to us

Don't U think that night pictures are little bit red coloured?

Posted by riksilvers

On 2009-11-06 22:20:17, wahehe15 wrote:
try setting your language to english not automatic

I've never set it to automatic (as on sim).
It is set to English (even though there's no en.lng file there). This is why i'm asking !!!

Posted by Bryan84
Can someone give good how-to tips on:

- Spot Metering
- Normal Metering

Like when should we use which and under what condition? I remember previously there was a few posts on this, maybe can someone help to share some tips?

Posted by Vit

On 2009-11-07 00:05:35, mikely_28 wrote:
Vit
Great pictures! Share mixed driver to us

Don't U think that night pictures are little bit red coloured?

Hi, mikely! Thanks for your appreciation!

The driver I've used for those pics (and the one that I am currently using in my camera) is this one:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2ZIYROL3 (includes both english and Brazilian portuguese language files)

It has both the original camdriver's (from the latest firmware, what means that it has smile shutter) and DM 3.5 camdriver's settings. More details on the note file included.

Yes, some of them pics have that slightly red/orange tone because of the street lighting here in Brazil. We've got some gas lamps that are hard to accurately portray with predefined WB settings. Strange enough is that if I set the WB to either incandescent or fluorescent, the picture comes out totally wrong coloured. The most accurate options in my opinion would be either cloudy or AUTO mode for this kind of lighting. I use cloudy in order to get more 'artistic' shots, and auto for the regular ones. But take a look at that street shot from a vehicle that passed along and left only its lamps onto the pictures. We can see that its headlamps on the left have well depicted colors.

Anyway, take a look at the pictures bellow and tell me what you think of them. They were took with a second mixed driver that I've just set up.

It's an also interesting mix of drivers, and one that I have just finished testing. It's a mix of both the Cybershot Xperience 4.1 and DM 3.5 drivers. It has all the quality, 8mp buffer size, JPEG tables and Twilight Landscape settings from DM 3.5 inside the former. It is indeed kind of complicated to use (but more flexible, on the other hand), but I've realized that the combination of Cybershot Xp 4.1's manual controls and the Twilight Landscape settings from Dm 3.5 can be really hot stuff! Besides you got all the manual controls from CS Xp 4.1, plus the sheer JPEG quality from DM 3.5. You can find info on how to use CS Xp 4.1 in some page @ this thread.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VQ599RS2 (includes only english language file - I'm still working on getting the Brazilian portuguese language file up for the job!)

Here we've got some night shots I just took with this last driver (Colors can be more finely tuned with this driver - you've got some nice controls for adjusting cyan-red and yellow-blue tones):

Enjoy them but remember that we only have to praise the original modders, not me!

[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-08 15:28 ]

Posted by fe1ixs
@Vit
What a great addition to the existing driver. I'll play with it. btw, the language file kinda messed up my phone. After upload yours, the english option did not show anymore. Can't find in the setting menu either. Is it the same language file as the DM 3.5 manual?

Posted by barareklam
@vit, Great job !

There is too many users att rapidshare right now so it works only for premium users

Could You be so kind and send me your two last drivers to barareklam@gmail.com

Fantastic picture att the bar (bottles and people in low-light situation) share Your settings for that picture. I use my c905 pripare for party pictures, not so much interested for flowers

And pleasa answer me do You use image stabilazer ON or OFF ?

Keep up the good work !!!

Posted by wahehe15

Can someone give good how-to tips on:

- Spot Metering
- Normal Metering

Like when should we use which and under what condition? I remember previously there was a few posts on this, maybe can someone help to share some tips?

When to use spot metering?
ex. you are shooting a person in front of a bright light like the sun
or if you are shooting something in front of bright light

Posted by Vit

On 2009-11-07 14:15:54, fe1ixs wrote:
@Vit
What a great addition to the existing driver. I'll play with it. btw, the language file kinda messed up my phone. After upload yours, the english option did not show anymore. Can't find in the setting menu either. Is it the same language file as the DM 3.5 manual?

Hello, fe1ixs! Thanks for your appreciation! Well, you're right, I provided the wrong file, sorry... I've edited the link to provide the right one.

[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-07 14:32 ]

Posted by Vit

On 2009-11-07 14:39:56, barareklam wrote:
@vit, Great job !

There is too many users att rapidshare right now so it works only for premium users

And pleasa answer me do You use image stabilazer ON or OFF ?

Keep up the good work !!!

Thanks for your appreciation, pal! I am also not keen on shooting only pics of flowers... I guess we've got too many of them at this thread.

As for the night pics, the basic to take shots like that is select the Twilight Landscape mode and lean the phone against a steady surface, like a table, a wall, or even a glass of beer! LOL... I also use the self timer function to provide the maximum steadiness for the phone. I do not use the built in Image Stab because it's a digital one, not optical. The second mixed driver I provided is the best one for taking slow shutter shots. You can create great effects by changing color tones!

Here you've got megaupload links for drivers:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2ZIYROL3

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VQ599RS2

[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-07 15:04 ]

Posted by toxicneo
in the path ifs/settings/camera/ i find two cameras files cammera0.dat and cammera2.dat. shld i delete cammera2.dat? so that I can paste frm dm 3.5 zip the cammera0.dat file.

Posted by Vit

On 2009-11-07 17:04:09, toxicneo wrote:
in the path ifs/settings/camera/ i find two cameras files cammera0.dat and cammera2.dat. shld i delete cammera2.dat? so that I can paste frm dm 3.5 zip the cammera0.dat file.

No, no! Do not delete camera2.dat. That's the driver for the front camera. You should only replace the original camera0.dat with the new one. Just remember to use the command "read" before doing that, in order to backup your original driver.

Posted by Vit

On 2009-11-07 05:54:17, Bryan84 wrote:
Can someone give good how-to tips on:

- Spot Metering
- Normal Metering

Like when should we use which and under what condition? I remember previously there was a few posts on this, maybe can someone help to share some tips?

I'm gonna say what I know from my experiences with them:

Normal metering measures the whole scene and sets the shutter speed and ISO accordingly. If there are highly bright areas and highly dark areas at the same picture, using normal metering may, for instance, priorize only the highlights and then you finish with images whithin those dark areas almost undistinguishable from each other. That would lead you to change EV settings manually, in order to get the exposure right.

On the other hand, using Spot metering may allow you to lock the exposure on those dark areas to priorize them, without having to ajust EV settings manually.

The thing is that sometimes the object on which you plan to lock the exposure may be far from the object you intend to focus on, so the latter ends up blurred. In that case I see no other way but use Normal metering and adjust manually the EV compensation (or in DM 3.5, ISO) settings.

Here it follows an example to illustrate that:

These first two were taken with Normal metering. Notice that no matter where I fix the focus (either at the front or at the rear of the mouse) the exposure settings are the same for both pics:

On the other hand, with Spot metering, If I fix the focus at the front I get one setting for exposure, while for the rear I get another:

[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-07 19:48 ]

Posted by fe1ixs
@Vit
thanks for the update language file. What is the best setting for daylight shot? you mention about twilight landscape for night shot, but I haven't seen tips for daylight. I'm still confuse, should I use auto scene or set one of the scene such as landscape/portrait... when use auto I noticed lot of noise on the pics even with the lowest ISO setting ...

Posted by penguin_xp
DM 3.8

Posted by Vit

On 2009-11-07 19:16:48, fe1ixs wrote:
@Vit
thanks for the update language file. What is the best setting for daylight shot? you mention about twilight landscape for night shot, but I haven't seen tips for daylight. I'm still confuse, should I use auto scene or set one of the scene such as landscape/portrait... when use auto I noticed lot of noise on the pics even with the lowest ISO setting ...

I use to shoot on auto mode for daylight, without changing ISO settings. As I wrote before, the majority of daylight shots comes out @ ISO 64, which (at least to me) provides very pleasant noise levels. You should try to change EV settings and changing from normal to spot metering, always trying to get the best exposure to the shot. Hope that helps.

[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-07 18:58 ]

Posted by jake20
Can everyone please also include their settings when posting pictures with DM 3.8?

I know a few of you guys out there like to post these amazing images, but kind of want to keep your settings secret.
Please share with everyone how you are able to produce good images with DM 3.8!!

thanks!

I wish DM would include some kind of small manual or text file to explain how to use the new menu changes.

How do you use the new shutter speed option?

[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2009-11-07 19:30 ]

Posted by penguin_xp
Hi jake,

I used landscape mode with color correction on with my daylight shots. ISO is set to auto.
When taking pictures at night, I usually use twilight landscape or twilight portrait and the shutter speed to +2.0EV. ISO is either set to 200 or 100. I seldom use 160, and I never use 400.
Also, I always use the timer in order to avoid or minimize any bluriness of shots.
That's all...

Usually, I only use shutter speed when taking low-light or night pics.

[ This Message was edited by: penguin_xp on 2009-11-07 20:20 ]

Posted by mikely_28

On 2009-11-07 17:22:25, Vit wrote:

No, no! Do not delete camera2.dat. That's the driver for the front camera.

Vit, does C905 have front camera?

How do you use the new shutter speed option?
I'm using it with night landscape mode. use EV +/- to change shutter speed. Pictures are amazing.
I use auto mode with C/C during day time, if I'm taking pictures portrait I turn C/C off.

Posted by Vit

On 2009-11-07 21:23:30, mikely_28 wrote:

Vit, does C905 have front camera?

Yeah, it doesn't have one... Incredible how I could not noticed that. I supposed it had one. The fact is that I've never, never used front camera in any of my phones. Sum that up to the knowledge that camera2.dat did not took part of any camera mod so far and I guess it's understandable that I would think that way...

On 2009-11-07 21:23:30, mikely_28 wrote:

How do you use the new shutter speed option?
I'm using it with night landscape mode. use EV +/- to change shutter speed. Pictures are amazing.
I use auto mode with C/C during day time, if I'm taking pictures portrait I turn C/C off.

Setting the camera to Twilight Landscape even with DM 3.5 sets the ISO @ 100, so there's only shutter speed values left to be changed by the EV button. In that sense, what you do when you change EV values @ Twilight Landscape mode on DM 3.5 is already select shutter speeds manually. I guess that EV +2.0 will not always set the same shutter speed, but will rather set the longer exposure time for that scene.

Anyway, I am waiting for the final 3.8 with the promised manual shutter speed (@ fixed values; so, for instance, EV +1.0 will always select the same value of shutter speed) so I can apply that to pics at nearer distances in Auto mode (Twilight Landscape lock focus at infinite).

[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-07 22:01 ]

Posted by mikely_28

Yes, but U must admit that in DM 3.5 using EV and in DM 3.8 changing shutter speed is difference.
For me picture looks better with longer speed of shutter than with longer exposure.
BTW: I think that camdriver2.dat is for video calls. How's that?

Posted by Vit

On 2009-11-07 23:03:07, mikely_28 wrote:

Longer exposure time = Slower shutter speed.

I agree that it's different only if a given EV value sets always the same shutter speed value. In other words, only if Shutter Speed SS is a function of EV values: SS(EV_value). I still did not try DM 3.8 because he said it was still beta and the SS function was not working well.

Posted by jake20
@penguin_xp

thank you very much for that explanation.. your pictures do look great.
I see your great pictures and think that you are just pointing and shooting for these great shots, but there is more skill involved than most people think.

I really just want to produce better low light shots, and be able to capture moving objects better without blurring.

For example, if I wanted to try and take a picture of an active child running around in the daytime, without the running child coming out all blurry, what settings would you recommend? and for at night?

I guess I just need some tips on what situations I would need to change the shutter speed to produce better results.

thanks again!

Posted by jake20
I took these with DM 3.5..
This driver is so easy to use. I am really considering to just stay with this one.. I guess shutter speed is only thing missing for me.
DAY - AUTO - ISO 100

NIGHT - AUTO - ISO 100

[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2009-11-07 22:47 ]

Posted by mikely_28
Vit
U should try. Always can back to 3.5

Posted by jake20
i am seeing less noise in DM 3.8 so far...
Here are comparison shots..indoor night shot, no flash all AUTO
both shots
Exposure Time 1/10 sec
ISO - 400

DM 3.5

DM 3.8 (beta)

[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2009-11-08 20:24 ]