Posted by xell
... but ...?
Posted by rustam07
On 2008-11-13 19:56:04, xell wrote:
... but ...?
W905
Posted by SilveR.
GPS?
sounds it's a dupe of C905 but with bigger screen..
Posted by Tigershark42
Bear in mind this is very likely to be the flagship walkman for 2009, with those kinds of specs (cmon, itd take a walkman to have walkman 4.0 player first, equally so to have a fastport AND a 3.5mm jack). Therefore, it isnt likely to be around 'till this time next year. W905 sounds a probable name. I love the spec sheet though, I can really start to see it getting to the point where you can expect it to have everything you need without any compromising (because of subrand or position in the portfolio or functionality or technology or battery life or anything) (if you are willing to pay for it).
Posted by dandyqb
or it might be the successor of w960
Posted by iqtidar
must be the walkman version of c905
Posted by kjao
any more updates on frances? or any of the other cybershot models?
Posted by razec
QVGA video again? so disappinting imo. all the other brands out there were spawning better video rec. quality than SE. be it imaging based or not. it's a big slap in the face of SE which happens to have one of it's parent excelling alot in this aspect.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
@razec: It is only a Walkman phone and as we know, Walkman camera features follow Cyber-shot by around a year when SE is being normal, so we can't expect better video in a Walkman phone until we see it in a Cyber-shot, in my opinion.
Too be honest, I suspected that Hikaru and this device talked about here were different devices, as I have heard a few people mention these specs along with the fact it is not a smartphone, yet we know Hikaru is a smartphone.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Those of you keeping up with Clauf's Keitai thread may have noticed this interesting comment in Sony α's post:
Further news says we will see a BRAVIA branded handset in the UK next year, as the HTC HD takes displays to a new level. Sony Ericsson are going to be using the Sony x BRAVIA tie to launch High resolution Mobiles in the UK, although - keep in mind this may only be the one 'Hero Handset', in the form of the 8800 from Nokia - in saying it will be highly sought after - so not an average run of the mill handset.
So a Bravia handset soon perhaps?
Cheers Sony α!
Posted by Zuckabaecka
i hope this w905/hikaru/whatever is slim...about 14-15mm
that would be perfect.
But the specs are too good for a 14mm phone.
Posted by Jimster71
If you wait until next april, you will probably get a lot more info on upcoming open devices from the then ex-sonyericsson employees.
Posted by se_love
I cant wait for MWC. That 8mp pixel walkman seems nice. But i say at least release it after having 3-4 mid range 5mp walkmans then release it. At least to break the mold and not have the w902 all exclusive. Walkman 4.0 surely will be a beadt compared to the latest version. Im not completly sure though if they would make the first 8mp walkman a smartphone. Have a couple to break the mold then do so. And the smartphone one seeing as its a smartphone should be w980 or some sorts to be the 960 succesor.
Posted by Hardened
On 2008-11-12 10:30:15, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
Ok I have now made it much much easier to quickly find the Walkman, Cyber-shot and Smartphone sections for those that wanted it!
Sorry for responding so late - Excellent work Oli, truely Excellent! You've captured my imagination on the front page layout and improved very well.
On 2008-11-12 13:31:19, razec wrote:
Smape mentions something about the new version panel UI that future xperias will feature later on. i do hope it will feature more eyecandies as well as more useful panels. not the gimmicky panels that x1 has. i'm also eager to see SE's s60 phone.
Those panels are not gimmicky imho, very useful. I cannot WAIT to see
's S60 phone either ... along with the integrated TAK for GUI we'll see better improvments than SBP Shell & panels. 
Any updates on the latest X series?
Posted by rustam07
Project Capuchin evolution includes Symbian Foundation
Sony Ericsson will base phones on the upcoming Symbian Foundation platform in the future but as the Symbian Foundation is not a reality yet, we suggest you use the Symbian/S60 5th edition SDK for application development as this will be compatible with the upcoming Symbian Foundation platform.
https://developer.sonyericsso[....]capuchin_symbianfoundation.jsp
Posted by doministry
Right, any update on S60/SF super smartphone??
Posted by razec
I'm eager to see SE S60 phone. though after seeing the WM6.5 screenshots i become more interested on the latter. esp that i still doubt nokia s60 UI experts are that good when it comes to UI experience.
Posted by clauf
On 2008-11-13 16:08:38, xell wrote:
Thanks to Waschbär Rocky at SE-World, we can now solve the sentences by prudent.
Well Hicaru is interesting with these aspects:
* One feature has been copied from N96
* One feature that has been accused of missing from Walkman for a long time now
* Screen size has been changed in positive aspects
What is the fuzz with Hicaru being an UIQ device? I dont get that.
* One feature has been copied from N96
* One feature that has been accused of missing from Walkman for a long time now
* Screen size has been changed in positive aspects
What is the fuzz with Hicaru being an UIQ device? I dont get that.
Copied from N96: The kickstand.
Missing from Walkman: 3.5mm jack.
Screen size: 2.6".
Oh god... Nokia copied Sony Ericsson with the kickstand. I think Sony Ericsson was the first company the offered a kickstand into a phone with the SO905i... a walkman/entertainment device for Japanese operator DoCoMo.
Posted by se_love
Nice. But thats not outside japan so it could be considered that way. No?
Also the 8mp camera walkman would be a w905 w910 model right? So then why not have it a swivel evolved? Like a swivel phone with 8mp. Succesor to the w900
[ This Message was edited by: se_love on 2008-11-15 10:15 ]
Posted by doministry
On 2008-11-15 00:28:21, razec wrote:
I'm eager to see SE S60 phone. though after seeing the WM6.5 screenshots i become more interested on the latter. esp that i still doubt nokia s60 UI experts are that good when it comes to UI experience.
Could you give links to these screenahots??
Posted by domipost
Here are they (on a dutch site however). I think they are fake.
Posted by iqtidar
def fake... looks fake to me...
Posted by se_love
Nope thats the acual windows mobile 6.5 Anyway before sony ericsson start making 8mp pixel walkmans they should focus on more 5mp walkmans that could also be afordable and have 5mp a low-mid pixel size. I mean what there is only about 2-3 5mp cybershots one 5mp walkman and no s or t 5mp camera ones. Let the camera of 5mp get more used then start aiming for the 8mp phones.
Posted by badassmam
Dick said that the JavaOne phone was to be released this year. Did he just lie to us or what? I think he did.
I have been told that the UI of the new SF phones from
look and have the feel of UIQ. In contrast, Nokia have made their UI very distinctive to Nokia i.e. you know its a Nokia from looking at the menu. I have no idea of what is similar for but I would imagine that it is the menus and stuff. Maybe others can confirm?
Posted by the-flash
^^ You mean Rikko Sakaguchi mentioned it. Yes it certainly does seem like he lied
Posted by K71
well after using a touchscreen phone for a few months now (G900), i can say that i'm looking forward to an 8.1mpx touchscreen with xenon flash. led photolight just isn't good enough.
Posted by domipost
On 2008-11-15 14:03:01, se_love wrote:
Nope thats the acual windows mobile 6.5 Anyway before sony ericsson start making 8mp pixel walkmans they should focus on more 5mp walkmans that could also be afordable and have 5mp a low-mid pixel size. I mean what there is only about 2-3 5mp cybershots one 5mp walkman and no s or t 5mp camera ones. Let the camera of 5mp get more used then start aiming for the 8mp phones.
Whatever. What is the big difference between 5mp and 8mp :S It's only marketing, and the higher the mp count, the better it sells.
Posted by se_love
A lot. The biggest size print with 5mp is A4 while with 8mp its poster sized. And as you says it helps them sell more. So lets say yo start releasing a bunch of t or s sieres phones with 5mp cams while your keeping the walkman phones with the low 3.2mp. Obviously it would be a bad decison as the w series phones are the high sellers of se. Why have the walkman phones sell less then the t series or s series phones due to the camera when you could make them all have an average of 5mp and have balanced sales papers.
Posted by domipost
But why not implementing a 8mp cam with less features than in the Cyber-Shot phones, then? Just like with the walkmans, all phones have the walkman player, but miss some features.
Posted by xironghostx
On 2008-11-16 12:42:27, se_love wrote:
A lot. The biggest size print with 5mp is A4 while with 8mp its poster sized.
But to print posters of your 8mp shots you need a real digicam.
Posted by idumbakumar
for me a good 5mp shooter with K850i flashing system is enough. of course a good video cababilities.
Posted by K71
well all of the pictures i print out are 6 x 4 inch. i noticed a definate improvement of picture quality going from my K800 to the G900, so i imagine that printing 6 x 4 pictures from an 8.1mpx would be a step up again in terms of quality, so thats all i'm after really, as i don't have a separate camera, i rely on my phone for taking all my pictures (obviously this means i'm not a serious photographer, but i'd still like some good quality shots overall to print out)
Posted by razec
@badassman, that is the obvious thing SE will do with its own SF platform. i dont think SE would just settle for the unattractive icons that nokia uses. we cam bet SE will port the media center and other standard SE software features as well.
Posted by Santa_Claus
The future S60 devices from SE will have custom GUI.
Posted by Raja
Any rumours if SE are planning to take on high end handsets like Nokia 8800 series?
Posted by iqtidar
On 2008-11-16 14:08:57, Santa_Claus wrote:
The future S60 devices from SE will have custom GUI.
thats good to hear. cause im bored with nokia's boring s60 UI
Posted by domipost
Yeah, that's great.
I remember there were rumours about a high-end fashion phone last year, but nothing heard of it anymore
Posted by Santa_Claus
On 2008-11-15 13:06:47, domipost wrote:
Here are they (on a dutch site however). I think they are fake.
They are fake imao.
Posted by DEAF
what the new 5meg cybersht
Posted by Maximys
Filippa and Frances.
Posted by clauf
On 2008-11-16 15:39:53, Santa_Claus wrote:
On 2008-11-15 13:06:47, domipost wrote:
Here are they (on a dutch site however). I think they are fake.
They are fake imao.
You can tell when they used the OS X icon for the today function...
Posted by Tigershark42
It could just be a concept though. The same things were said about the supposed mock up images of WM7.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2008-11-16 22:07:29, clauf wrote:
On 2008-11-16 15:39:53, Santa_Claus wrote:
On 2008-11-15 13:06:47, domipost wrote:
Here are they (on a dutch site however). I think they are fake.
They are fake imao.
You can tell when they used the OS X icon for the today function...
Quite right. They are definitely fake. They've used the exact same picture as used in OS X, but they've blown it up a bit (so it actually looks a bit blurry and crap), see:
[ This Message was edited by: Muhammad-Oli on 2008-11-16 23:36 ]
Posted by Zuckabaecka
Can we aspect faster phones for 2009?
S60 witch own look = good news
Posted by goldenface
Regarding the next announcement. This report seems to think the next announcement is in January at CES. Might the lower-end phones be seen at CES and the good stuff at Mobile World Congress?
Posted by Santa_Claus
On 2008-11-18 00:11:32, goldenface wrote:
Regarding the next announcement. This report seems to think the next announcement is in January at CES. Might the lower-end phones be seen at CES and the good stuff at Mobile World Congress?
Yes, good sh*t will be at WMC
Posted by razec
OMAP3 SE S60s?
SnapDragon SE WMs?
^^That's all i want from them so far
Posted by mazi
All phones on portfolio r release..only W705 is remain...so when is the next announce?
Posted by se_love
Excellent. They realised finally that to many phones where released. Now if that means that they will scale down phones might acually have better quality and break less easily.
Posted by vogGl*.de
sry for OT, but i want to thank all esato-members for sharing their information about upcomming cellphones. I liked to read the old thread for 2008 and i'll enjoy reading this one.