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Posted by darrengf
As Most of you know, I have always owned a Sony Ericsson and no just a little bit about them, but when they introduced the C905, I have to be honest and yes I thought it looked nice, I’m just not a slide phone person.
Now in my time I’ve had T68i (Still own), T610, T630, K700, K750, K800 and K850.
Even thought I have had 7 K850i’s, this wouldn’t mean I wouldn’t own another one or another SE, infact far from it.
However I thought that it was time for a change and I had the opportunity to own a LG Renoir (aka KC910).

So I’ve had the phone now for well over a week and thought I would do a mini review (Now tuirning into a bit longer review of my own.
If I havnt covered somthing please let me know.

As you know, the specs of the phone are very impressive, but does the phone deliver on its promise? To be honest, it does in most areas, but there are a few weaknesses in certain areas.

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Camera/Video 8.5/10
The Camera quality of the phone is superb, all the pictures are sharp and crystal clear with no problems at all, the menus are easy to use, understandable and give the capabilities the extra push. Zoom on the phone is great and still takes clear pictures at great lengths.
The Video Quality is amazing, Infact I’m stunned, the picture and sound quality are excellent. There are many options in the video menu and several ways of shooting, the one I like is the slow and speed motion.
Dislikes: There are a couple of gripes, and this is why I didn’t give it a 9 or a 10. The flash on the phone isn’t very strong at all and some night shots are dark, you can compensate by using the features, but it is a shame that it isn’t slightly brighter, also there is no video light for night shots which is a complete shame.
However other than that, no problems at all.
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** Updated 11.11.08**
SMS/MMS/Email 8/10
I was very amazed at the touch screen when using for texting and multimedia messaging, I have got used to the new way very quickly and I have to say that the phone handles both features with ease and no lag at all. All the menus are easy to use and easy to understand. The texting capabilities alone for me warrant a 10/10, but there are still again some areas of improvement.
I’ve had no problems with emails and the settings up of them. In fact it’s easier that SE phones. It does everything for you. (Emails are limited to 2mb per email in and out though.
Dislikes: The filter on the phone is to be honest useless, I’m not sure how it filters, but it doesn’t seem to do alphabetically or use date and time when the SMS/MMS arrived, you also can’t choose these features either. My other gripe is smiling faces, the phone has a sub menu for emotions (That’s good I hear you say), however there not the faces, but the symbols that create the faces. Other than that though it’s all fine.

** Update **
There is no where on the phone you can send EMS. You can recevie them and forward the message on, but you cant create them, which is a shame.
For some reason the phone the other day wouldnt download a email with an attachment, it kept saying that the file was too large. The attatchment was 50kb. So im not sure if the phone can dowload large files, it can send files upto 2mb thou.

I would like to see the email size remove in a later update for update and download
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Phone Lag 7/10
There is a lag on occasions in going from menu to menu which is never more than a second and when opening up music, photos and videos. However it’s not something that’s bothered me or got me wanting to throw the phone through the window. You press, you wait, it’s open (less than a second)
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Phone Book/Calendar 8/10
Phone book on the phone is easy to use and understand. I’ve had no problems at all and yes it has different quirks that the SE but nothing major. I do like the feature of being able to add Birthdays and Anniversaries the same contact. Backing up is easy and you can also back up you calendar contacts to the memory card as well.
Dislikes: Just one little thing, you have no option to choose what you want the phone to choose as the main contacts, e.g. all mobiles or landlines. You have to go into every contact manual and choose which one you want. The feature doesn’t fully work too. I choose mobile in my contacts which when I press the name to dial it does dial the mobile, however when sending a SMS it doesn’t choose my preferred number and lists all of them with the house number coming up first.
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** Updated 10.11.08 **
Media Center 7/10
The playback of Pictures and videos are very easy and I have had no problems at all. Every video I’ve thrown at the phone, it’s played with ease (The K850i couldn’t play or had lag on some videos and the C905 couldn’t even play some mp4 videos. The phone also plays divx with out any problems and going from landscape to portrait is not a problem for the phone. Dolby really does make a difference in the music (Feature isn’t present in videos) and the phone is very loud in playing everything (Comes from the ear piece speaker)
Dislikes: Only one gripe, there’s no way of changing how the music sounds as you don’t get a graphic equaliser.

** Update ** Playing songs back through the headset, or bluetooth headset. Having the phone volume turned up to the max isnt still very loud. ** I would expect it to be a lot louder ** Hope this is improved in a software update.
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Wifi/Bluetooth 10/10
I have yet to have a problem with both of these, every works fine and WIFI is amazingly fast and easy to set up.
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** updated 10.11.08 **
GPS 5/10
At present hard to say, I haven’t used the function but when I try, I can’t seem to get Google maps to work with either GPS or GPRS which leads me onto JAVA.

** Good News now **
Ive got the GPS to work. *Mobile g-maps works with the gps beautifuly*

When you open up the programme, it asks a couple of questions and takes about 30 seconds to a min to locate a gps signal and lock on.

Ive even manage to get it working indoors near windows.
It does however take much longer to connect, but it works.

Im so so happy now.

Dont dowload the signature one though. Download the jar unsgined one to your computer and place it on the phone in others. Then click on it to install.
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JAVA 2/10
To put it blunt, massive letdown. SE Wins hands tied behind its back. Java on the phone is useless. Opera mini works ok but does have problems, using anything that requires you to add words like vtap then forget it. The phone does not bring up the T9 keyboard that you have for texting, so I got a row of numbers 1 to 10 and arrow up, down, left and right. I have to remember what 1 to 10 use in letters and symbols to even get some letters. Its some of LG own games too that don’t work correctly and again these require words putting in?
I’m currently at present waiting for a reply from LG regarding this issue and I will see what they say, however I’m not optimistic at present.
(I’m hoping a future software update fixes this issue)

** updated 10.11.08 **
Im still waiting for the reply as I did send the email to the wrong place, as per the email i received back from LG.
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Battery Life 6/10
When using the phone for use with Internet, SMS, Pics, Camera etc. The battery is just as good as any SE I’ve used. However strange thing is when making a phone call, the battery life vanishes amazingly fast. Using the phone to be a phone eats battery at an unprecedented rate. Again I’m hoping this issue can be fixed in further software updates. It would also nice to have the percentage of the battery left and not just a battery symbol with 3 lines.
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Stability of the software 10/10
Its rock solid thats all i can say. I have tried and tried to crash the phone and nothing. The phone eats everything i do with ease and no problems at all. Ive even run 5-7 applications at one and there is no speed lag, difference or problems. It plays music with ease while i sms, take pics and browse. It just doesnt flutter or alter in speed.
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General All Round 8/10
To be honest Apart from the GPS and Java problems, the other little niggles are more quirks I would like to see or to be changed or improved. The phone it self is very light, comfortable and I have had no problems in using it or getting used to any of the menus. All menus are easy to understand and set out where I would want them.
The widgets are great to use and easy to set up (Just wish I could create my own with programmes I use more of).
The middle button on the phone is a quick menu button and again easy to set up and use. Call quality is excellent and the signal quality is very fast and very strong. The phone picks up a 3g network much faster than the SE and it picks it up in areas where the SE can see it but won’t pick it.
There are lots of new features on the phone like, setting a ring tone not just for callers who ring but callers who video call as well, Video call is also very smooth and again no problems.
Min beep is on the phone (which I like) and many other new features which I would now miss. I’ve had no problems with the screen, it’s very bright, very clear and I’ve had no problems in using it in day light, I have yet to have a sunny day to try it in, but will let you know when I do. Build Quality for me gets 10/10. No creaks or anything loose. The phone is solid and I have every confident in 6 months it will be the same.
My phone is unbranded but when I placed my o2 sim in the phone I was amazed. It not only set up Mobile WAP, Mobile WEB and MMS settings all by it self , it never asked me one question and nor were the settings on my phone first. It even set my voice mail number up as well. Touch sensitive on the phone is very good. It’s not as slick as the Iphone or the Samsung, but it’s not rubbish. The screen is very accurate when pressing in menus and texting. Inbuilt Browser is good, but could be better. Its not as easy to use as SE Net browser or as slick on some websites. Rss Feeds work fine when set up and easy to use.

There’s much more I could say but I think vie gone on a little too much all ready.

Big question is would I buy another LG phone, answer is a simple yes, would I recommend. That’s a big yes. Would I recommend the phone, that’s a straight and big Yes.


Its also took me 2 hours of tyring all sorts of codes but I finaly found the secret engineer menu in the phone which and have had to do a couple of master resets as in the egineering menu, you have every option to change things in the phone. ( Like ive found out )

The Engineer menu is nothing like SE. You really can do and change every funtion in the phone, you can disable wlan, alter networks so it only looks from 1 frequency) so even when you have the phone back to normal if you tried to switched the wlan on. it does nothing if you have switched it of in Engineer menu.
Any thing you do alter and cant rem how to change or switch it back to normal then a master reset in the engineer menu really does the trick . I would advise you to back up any thing first like contacts and calendar entries as a Master Reset, rebuilds the software from scratch.


Welldone to LG though. Fantasitc phone

Pics are from my Nikon digital camera:










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Posted by darrengf
Update regarding GPS.

I have now downloaded nav4all and this doesnt see the GPS sensor.

There is no way i can switch on the sensor, so Ive emailed LG.

I will let you know what they say

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-11-06 20:16 ]

Posted by Bonovox
Nice review and lovely phone. I want.

Posted by Dart5
Thanks for the review. I've been waiting for other sites (gsmarena, snape ect) to give their reviews but they are all late. They've reviwed phones that came after the KC910 but don't seem in a hurry with the KC910 which is a shame as the C905, INNV08 & the other phone at that level have all been done. Like you, I've been with SE for ages but decided it's time for a change. The C905 is better than I expected but it still doesn't offer anything special and lacks others (no 3.5mm, joke of video, no SD card). It's good to hear your opions on this phone. The GPS is something I'd use a lot so if you get any more info I'll be keen to hear. Cheers

Posted by >500
@dart5

phonearena has a full review i think

Posted by darrengf
I have tried to stay unbiased in the review with having SE phones for so long.

These Pics are from my Works Halloween Day part


A Cake which was Raffled of.


I have got loads more which i will post shortly for you

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-11-06 20:35 ]

Posted by MWEB
Nice review on an excellent phone, i have it's little brother, the Cookie

Posted by darrengf
Ive been looking at the cookie as my spare phone and was wondering what its like

Posted by Masa
Waiting for some pics taken by the phone.

I might buy this phone soon.

Posted by Dart5
A photo review has just come up on gsmarena:

www.gsmarena.com/8_megapixel_grand_shootout-review-296.php

The KC910 does well, but the Xenon lets it down a bit, hope they can improve it with FW update.

[ This Message was edited by: Dart5 on 2008-11-05 20:24 ]

Posted by giancito
hi darrengf

could put a picture of the contents of Renoir

thanks

Posted by Masa
Now i got one.

Looks and feel very good.



Posted by darrengf
Ok sorry for the delay.
Pics as promised.

This first pic is out side the window at work, Its been grey and raining all day today.


This pic is when i went for a walk at dinner time just out side my work building


The next one is the same shot but i zoomed in 4x


I tried at 8x but it was very poor as i was shaking with cold.

Next one is the tree out side the building


This is the Bush round the tree


This is the same shot out side my work window at night (No flash)


The same shot at the bush aprox 3 meters away (With flash)


This is the spider plant in my mums house (Room light was on)(No flash)


Same pic was taken in room but with no room light (Flash was on though)

The 2 pics above were took about 50 cms away

This is my room phone taken with room light on (No flash)


Same again, but no light on in room (With Flash)

(This one did come up on my screen saying focus was not correct (Red Square, but i still took any way)

Again this photo when i was taking the shot did say auto focus wasnt correct, but again i still took the pic



I do hope that the above helps in answering the questions.


The next 2 shots are both taken in Dark with the Digital Nikon Camera with flash




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Posted by giancito
photos are acceptable, Now videos recorded by the RENOIR in VGA and 120fps


pd .- photo that you please ask

Posted by darrengf

On 2008-11-06 21:27:47, giancito wrote:
photos are acceptable, Now videos recorded by the RENOIR in VGA and 120fps


pd .- photo that you please ask

Now that may be a little difficult. But heres the photos of the phones menus

Some of the menus are a little dark on the photos. (This is becuase i couldnt take the photos quick enough beofore the auto brightness took affect (You can turn the function of so that the screen is bright all the time in menus.)
This is the menu when you want to unlock the phone


This is the main menu on how i want it


These are the widgets i can add and change (Bottom row)


Middle Button on the phone takes you to this menu (You can your own menu on how you want it. (Really good and easy to use)


Shows you what applications you have running.


My Stuff menu


Messaging menu

Texting menu

If you turn the phone round you get the qwerty keyboard automaticaly

Dialing menu


Next 4 images are of the 4 main menus. You can move the icons round on the screens how you want them. You cant however move one icon from one menu to another, only arround on the screen in the menu you are in





The last screen is the status menu, where you can qucikly turn on bluetooth, wifi and change profiles



I hope all the above pics help and answers the questions.

If you have any more questions please ask.

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-11-06 21:08 ]

Posted by giancito
The motion sensor is used to move the images and videos in horizontal and vertical or just for games??

Posted by Daedalus85
Looks good, even got me tempted now, and I hate touch screens lol

Thing is, I'm a heavy texter, I dunno how much you text but has that aspect of it driven you mad yet?

Posted by darrengf
Motion sensor is for texting, videos, photos
The phone was upright, as well as the camera. (I forgot to turn the photo round when editing (but you get the pic))








Posted by Daedalus85
Hows the texting though? Like responsiveness, the ability to type without looking, speed etc?

Posted by darrengf
Now what a good question youve asked.

I send on average about 2000 sms a month and 50 mms a month.

My biggest worry was texting.

Wow i was shocked, Ive yet to have a problem in texting and yes i sometimes type wrong words or even wrong letters (I used to on my k850i)

But its amazinging great, I thought i would never say this, but i dont think i could now go back to another normal phone. I like touch screen.

Regarding not looking, when you get use to where you should press, your fingers seem to no where they are going.

its like touch typing, all the keys feel the same but your fingers no where to go. Stange at first but ive got used to it.

Like i said the only disapointment is that there are no you get the symbols but thats it.

Hope the photos help













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Posted by Daedalus85
Thats excellent, thanks very much Definetely given me a better idea, it's one thing me playing with them for 5 minutes in my shop, but it's another getting a real world experience from someone

Posted by giancito
it is true when you get used to a touch screen, it's a bit dicifil use it again with another mobile keyboard.

what they miss from my old sonyericsson were able to send the EMS Bone able to use the animations in my LG VIEWTY just can not send more only can I receive EMS

do not know if this can also RENOIR send EMS?

would be very nice to confirm this question?
and I would appreciate if you could upload a few videos the other day?

tell me the FM radio is speaker of the KC910? that does not have the LG VIEWTY??

thanks

[ This Message was edited by: giancito on 2008-11-07 14:23 ]

Posted by zoiy
ok

This message was posted from a L343i

Posted by -PERFECT-
Why there is a blue tint in only a flash pic and not in the other?









Have you tried to increase the iso using the flash? 800 for example in a dark room (shooting from 2 - 3 Mt.)


Posted by Dart5

On 2008-11-05 01:47:22, darrengf wrote:
Update regarding GPS.

I have now downloaded nav4all and this doesnt see the GPS sensor.

There is no way i can switch on the sensor, so Ive emailed LG.

I will let you know what they say

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-11-06 20:16 ]

Hi darrengf, did you get anywhere with the GPS.?

Posted by Masa
I can´t get the music to sound in my bluetooth headset.

All other phones i have´d there is no problem listen to music in bluetooth headset.

Only when i calls the talk is in bluetooth;But no music from the music player.

Is there any setup that i missed??




Posted by darrengf
@giancito
Yes EMS is missing of the phone as well. You can received ems and the phone does tell you that its a ems, but you have no way of sending them back (Which is a shame)

Regarding the FM Radio.




Youy get the choice of either head set or speaker, so to answer your questions, yes you can and the both work fine.
You go have to have your headset plugged in though to get it to work, as the headset acts as the aerial.

I hope that helps, Im not sure where to post videos too. But i will when i can for you.

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@PERFECT

I havnt yet tried changing any thing on the camera, Ive just left everything in auto. I will try again later and post my findings for you. To be honest though the K850i did a sim thing, but it was no where near as blue.

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@Dart5

I emailed the wrong part of LG, So again im waiting on a reply, but i wont give up, lol. I will find out why it doesnt work with the software.

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@Masa

I have both Mono bluetooth headset i use in the car with out any problems and i also have a stereo bluetooth headset, again this works with out any problems.




The only thing i do, When it asks me do i want the headset to connect auto and not to ask any questions i just say yes. Thats it.

You can check the profile as well of the headset when its switched on. Press the top left button on the screen and choose profile. This will tell you if the headset is supported with the phone. Mine said it was.

Sorry i cant be any more help.

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My first crash of the phone happened today. It was when i was playing music through the bluetooh headset. When i pressed the dolby button on the phone, it just went of and then came back on within 15 seconds.

Its took me a week+ of really trying to crash the phone so i would say that one crash is not going to cause any concerns for me at all and i would still give it 10/10 for stability.

If you have any more questions please ask away.

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Posted by giancito
Thank you very much for the answers

Posted by darrengf
Ok Regarding the Blue Tint

The above was in dark and the phone was set to auto.

Hwever I have since took the pic again, but this time set the Exposure from 0 to +0.5 and you can see the difference



Sorry, but forgot to put pic back into 8mb mode

I will say that on average taking a pic is 8mb mode, the photo size is about 1.4-1.6 mb per pic.

Posted by Brightspark
"Yes EMS is missing of the phone as well. You can received ems and the phone does tell you that its a ems, but you have no way of sending them back (Which is a shame)"

it's worth noting that even though there is no way to send an EMS on the viewty and renoir, the phone DOES have EMS facilities in the firmware. why it has been left out i don't know. if you go into the firmware, you will find EMS at /media/java/EMS

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Posted by VICTORIA
but if that bad head of LG, that if you can receive but not send or forward, is very bad



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Posted by Masa
It´s a monoheadset i got.

All other phones i got i can listen to music or audiobook in a monoheadset.
While i working .

All sound come out in headset not in phonespeaker but on Lg Only calls in headset and when i try to start musicplayer to listen to my audiobook the sound comes out the phone.

When i check in profile as you said it´s show profile Normal when the headset is connected

[ This Message was edited by: Masa on 2008-11-09 07:35 ]

Posted by Shaizer
Could you get some pics up of the video menu? i wanted to see what resolutions this phone can record in. Theres also been some reports that the phone has a slight audio video sync problem when recording VGA at 30fps, can you confirm this?

Thanks,

Posted by darrengf
I can confirm that I havnt had any video problems with sync audio. And ive done lots of recordings now.

The videos are
640 x 384 w
400 x 240 w
640 x 480
320 x 240
176 x 144


Regarding EMS. I can recevied them and get the option to forward them on.
I dont have a option to create them thats all.

Posted by Brightspark
looks like predictive texting has been improved over the viewty. i like the scrolldown list on the renoir. on the viewty you have to cycle through the words using the same key as the symbol key. it can lead to difficulties.

how many sms does it allow you to store on the phone? on the viewty its 300. i'm currently trying to find a hack to get around it.

Posted by borg_
How is the stand-by time?

Do you have always On 24h?

Posted by darrengf
I think i have read that its 1000 in total. I will check up on that one.

Regarding the standby time, its very good indeed. Infact its better than what i thought.

I have it on for about 18 hours a day, Use it for sms, mms, videos, music, internet, camera, general use and get on average between 2.5 to 3 days use on a charge.

The only thing that seems to eat the battery is recording video and taking pics and making and receiving calls.

Hope this helps

** Ive also just ordered a USB TV Out Cable (UTC-100) for the mobile phone. I will let you know when i get it what its like **

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Posted by Dart5
Hi Darren, got my KC910 on the weekend and so far liking it. I thought the TV cable came in the box and surprised to find that it doesn't so will be looking to get that myself. From a review I saw I also though it came with a full remote on the hands free, but the one I got is the simple single button type, so will also look to get that. Haven't had a chance to investigate the phone to much yet. The only thing I find a pain so far is when taking pictures, the short cut keys are displayed for a fraction of a second - you’re constantly having to touch the screen to get them back - hopefully this will be changed in a FW release (this was also pointed out in one of the reviews). The other issue is with the music. I've ripped by CD's using iTunes to MP3. On the KC910 it doesn’t seem to recognise all the TAG details. It's a bit strange as for one artist they have one album correctly listed, and another listed under unknown! They were both ripped the same way and work fine on my K850. Any one else had this?

Posted by darrengf

On 2008-11-10 11:02:37, Dart5 wrote:
Hi Darren, got my KC910 on the weekend and so far liking it. I thought the TV cable came in the box and surprised to find that it doesn't so will be looking to get that myself. From a review I saw I also though it came with a full remote on the hands free, but the one I got is the simple single button type, so will also look to get that. Haven't had a chance to investigate the phone to much yet. The only thing I find a pain so far is when taking pictures, the short cut keys are displayed for a fraction of a second - you’re constantly having to touch the screen to get them back - hopefully this will be changed in a FW release (this was also pointed out in one of the reviews). The other issue is with the music. I've ripped by CD's using iTunes to MP3. On the KC910 it doesn’t seem to recognise all the TAG details. It's a bit strange as for one artist they have one album correctly listed, and another listed under unknown! They were both ripped the same way and work fine on my K850. Any one else had this?


I havnt noticed that with the music, its all worked ok for me, so will investigate further on that one.

Yes you get standard earphones etc in the box and ive noticed that its not really loud with any ear phones connected. So im hoping that its fixed in a future update.

Yes ive just ordered the the tv out cable my self £10 from play.com and to be honest, None of my SE handsets have ever come with them, so i dont mind buying one.

** Good News though **

Ive got the GPS to work. *Mobile g-maps works with the gps beautifuly*

When you open up the programme, it asks a couple of questions and takes about 30 seconds to a min to locate a gps signal and lock on.

Ive even manage to get it working indoors near windows.
It does however take much longer to connect, but it works.

Im so so happy now.

Dont dowload the signes one though. Download the jar unsgined one to your computer and place it on the phone in others. Then click on it to install.



Posted by -PERFECT-
Thanks darrengf for your answers, about flash pics i think it’s possibile to have better results adjusting the settings (like your flash pic with e.v.+0.5), now i’m waiting mine...


Posted by giancito
@hi darrengf

tell me remains just VGA video recorded on which you can see on the television?

I have a doubt, the size of the xenon flash will be the same as the Viewty??

Posted by Brightspark
@darrengf
"ive noticed that its not really loud with any ear phones connected. So im hoping that its fixed in a future update. "

there's a hack for the viewty to make it much louder for the speakers, radio, earphones, etc, so i should imagine there is one for the renoir (not to sure if they are the same platform).
you could try this and use it as a guide if the secret menu is the same on the viewty as on the renoir:
http://www.mygreatphone.com/f[....]ume-media-player-no-noobs.html



[ This Message was edited by: Brightspark on 2008-11-10 16:39 ]

Posted by Miss UK
Nice phone dazza,

Im dreading changing myphone next year I think to a touchscreen im a virgin to them well not quite I did have a P910i once upon a time

anyway nice review I hope you have fun with it

Posted by Dart5

On 2008-11-11 03:08:28, Miss UK wrote:
. . . Im dreading changing myphone next year I think to a touchscreen im a virgin to them well not quite I did have a P910i once upon a time. . .


This is my first TS phone and I'm really impressed. I've only had a couple of days and already I think it would be really hard to go back to a keypad!

Posted by Brightspark

On 2008-11-11 09:27:38, Dart5 wrote:

On 2008-11-11 03:08:28, Miss UK wrote:
. . . Im dreading changing myphone next year I think to a touchscreen im a virgin to them well not quite I did have a P910i once upon a time. . .


This is my first TS phone and I'm really impressed. I've only had a couple of days and already I think it would be really hard to go back to a keypad!

funny you should say that because i feel the same.

Posted by darrengf
Well i thought i would log in through my phone to make sure it works on esato and it does.


This Miss Uk for the kind words.

I try to help

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-11-11 22:37 ]

Posted by Miss UK
I know I can get used to a Touchscreen device, its just the thought of them taking over our trusty keypads its abit scary if all phones end up like that. We're all gonna end up with scratched up screens lol Im awaiting something from Nokia anyway strange there the last to bring a TC to us yet more a 8MP handset. That N96 is a waste of space wat was they thinking with that Posted from a Nokia N95-2 lol

Posted by darrengf
I believe that Nokia are due to bring something out before xmas. But im also surprised that they havnt. Well i have my trusty cover still on my phone. The other day tho i was using my friends phone which is keyboard. He had more finger marks on his screen when i had done. I just couldnt get back used to not touching what i want. Ive even started on my works comp screen now. Lol. I never thought i would say this about touch screen. But its amazing. Its quick easy, well it is on here. Touch is the way to go. Once you have got used to it you dont want to go back.

Posted by darrengf
LG Today has anounced the Renoir Microsite.

This enables users to get to know the mobile much better.

Have a look and see

http://renoir.lgmobile.com/

Posted by Brightspark
@darrengf
will you be likely to hack it (eg increase the volume)?


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