Posted by se_dude
Now left is samsung i7110 and right is Nokia n85.Which is better acc to you? Acc to Eldar N85 is better.
Now for some strange reason, the pic used to compare with the N79 has greater brightness than the one used aainst the N85.
Left i7110 right n79
Posted by fatreg
he knows which way his bread is buttered...
Posted by QVGA
There is no way they are at the same brightness levels. Clearly the N79 is set to a much duller level. Although i must say in that pic the N79 looks better
Posted by MWEB
SE dude, if you ask the question in this section, on the appropriate site, your infinitely more likely to get a definitive answer
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8
Posted by se_dude
On 2008-10-31 17:48:21, QVGA wrote:
There is no way they are at the same brightness levels. Clearly the N79 is set to a much duller level. Although i must say in that pic the N79 looks better
We are talking about i7110 vs N85.The first two pics are comparisons with the N85 and the last pic is with the N79.
Posted by QVGA
OK i cant see any difference between the two
Posted by se_dude
Yet to figure out as to why the brightness decreased when compared to the N85.Any ideas?? Also the leaf pic is way better in the i7110.Eldar clearly mentioned the N85 to be better.
Posted by voda_jon
to answer the question about brightness and the difference between the two phones is that nokia have updated and worked on improving the reactiveness of the light sensor and it is much better in newer phones than it is in slightly older ones.
That would answer why the big difference in the two.
In regards to someone being pro {insert company here} it really comes down to what that company is offering. At the mo SE arent really offering anything amazin that stands out from the crowd whereas Nokia and samsung are. This could be why eldar has gone from praising to cursing SE.
Just because someone once liked a certain company but now doesnt isnt enough of a reason to jump on them and call them everything for changing their mind!
I read his reviews to see what features they offer and if any big probs are there... and then.... this is a biggie really!
I MAKE MY OWN MIND UP AND BUY WHAT I WANT TO BUY!
Eldar isnt forcing you to buy a certain brand he is merely reviewing handsets and giving HIS opinion on them.
J.
Posted by se_dude
Where is SE coming into the picture?? If you have a look at the i7110 review by Eldar, he has totally bashed it. The display comparisons provided are totally crap too.
Posted by MWEB
On 2008-10-31 20:08:24, se_dude wrote:
Where is SE coming into the picture?? If you have a look at the i7110 review by Eldar, he has totally bashed it. The display comparisons provided are totally crap too.
Beat's me why you upset yourself by visiting M-R in the first place, there are hundreds of review sites out there, if i were you, i'd visit one more in tune with your brand preference
Posted by voda_jon
@mweb....
i agree thats what i was trying to get across that ppl moan about reading somethin they chose to read!
I love mobile review and just wish they could translate quicker as i would read it every time if they had more english reviews on
Posted by SloopJohnB
Eldarīs reviews are very biased. Itīs always been like this. He usually picks a brand and say nice things about it for a period of time until he picks another and so on... It used to be
in k750īs days, nowadays is nokia and omnia too recently. Sometimes his reviews make no sense at all because they get too personal or because he insists on making big arguments or big market analysis that have no real background and that most times doesnīt come to reality. He used to think would come to be a threat to nokia and that surely never happened. Last year he insisted many times that the iphone unlocking scene was actually a carefully crafted plot by apple, that handed over software secrets to a kid in order to satisfy users and increase sales. He puts too much of his personal sh*t in his reviews.
Posted by Marly
On 2008-10-31 20:01:40, voda_jon wrote:
to answer the question about brightness and the difference between the two phones is that nokia have updated and worked on improving the reactiveness of the light sensor and it is much better in newer phones than it is in slightly older ones.
That would answer why the big difference in the two.
Seems no-one understands the point se_dude is trying to make with this topic, it's not about the two Nokias, it's about the Samsung : why is the pic made by the Samsung less bright in the comparison with one Nokia, than the same pic off the same Samsung when compared to another Nokia ?
Despite of several replies, nobody had an answer to this question yet.
Posted by AbuBasim
On 2008-10-31 20:08:24, se_dude wrote:
Where is SE coming into the picture?? If you have a look at the i7110 review by Eldar, he has totally bashed it. The display comparisons provided are totally crap too.
So you're upset that he trashed the i7110? Isn't the i7110 a Samsung phone? What's the connection here to SE?
Posted by se_dude
As a reviewer Eldar whould be unbiased, be it ny phone he is reviewing. The point I am trying to make is that Eldar is repeatedly bashing up phones that are not from the Nokia arena, be it SE or Samsung. A reviewer shouldnt be brand specific.
And anyway, about SE i have stopped visiting mobile-review. In that case, i would expect at the other reviews to be unbiased.The i7110 is pitted against the measly N79 and bashed.Simply pathetic.
Posted by GUCCI.011
Measly N79? LOL they have exactly the same specs, except that i7110 has a 2.6inch AMOLED screen like the N85,
measly? Nah.
Posted by se_dude
Same as with the N85. N79+N81 rip off=N85
N79=N82-graphcs acc+fm transmitter-xenon
Advantages of i7110
# Camera wide dynamic range, anti-shake, geo-tagging, face, smile and blink detection
# VGA video recording at 30 fps and two slow motion video recording modes
# DivX and XviD playback out of the box
# Optical trackpad navigation
[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2008-11-01 05:06 ]
Posted by gtr83
The point is not about anyone being pro to a certain brand or no longer pro of that brand, it's just clear that reviews are ALWAYS subjective to the reviewer but Eldar's reviews, most of the time, get too personal. Especially his recent non-Nokia ones, which of course leads to some people (including me) that now it's Nokia's turn to by praised by His Russian Mobile Knowledge Majesty. Who knows how long will it last.
Posted by GUCCI.011
On 2008-11-01 06:03:42, se_dude wrote:
Same as with the N85. N79+N81 rip off=N85
N79=N82-graphcs acc+fm transmitter-xenon
Advantages of i7110
# Camera wide dynamic range, anti-shake, geo-tagging, face, smile and blink detection
# VGA video recording at 30 fps and two slow motion video recording modes
# DivX and XviD playback out of the box
# Optical trackpad navigation
[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2008-11-01 05:06 ]
WOW, things that can be added via a FW update if NOKIA Felt it necessary except for the track navigation. Hmmm: anti-shake, and geo-tagging the NOKIAs have this, even old N95-1 has these, recieved via FW update, the others will come in time im sure.
N85 has the same display as i7110.
N79 is now the smallest Nseries, and only weighing 97g, its a fashion phone bud, not a camera phone, thats why N82 is still the Cam Flagship.
But anyway i do find it strange that Sam appears dimmer, maybe its because the N79 screen is smaller and is a regular TFT, there for it makes the i7110 look brighter. I dont think he's being biased though.
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[ This Message was edited by: GUCCI.011 on 2008-11-01 07:21 ]
Posted by se_dude
Yea QVGA at 120 fps via firmware.Salutations.
Posted by MWEB
Voda Jon is speaking out of the correct orifice in this thread and is 100% correct, look about half way down this N85 review, at the N85/N96 pics, its explained there
.
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n85-en.shtml
Posted by se_dude
On 2008-11-01 10:41:14, MWEB wrote:
Voda Jon is speaking out of the correct orifice in this thread and is 100% correct, look about half way down this N85 review, at the N85/N96 pics, its explained there
.
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n85-en.shtml
Sorry.Did not get your point.What about it??
Posted by voda_jon
@mweb... thanks.
it jus irratates me ppl going on and on and on about this.... then it goes quiet for a bit until someone reads somethin they dont like and then another thread gets started along the same lines!
If u dont like his reviews DONT READ them...
Plus if u r going to flame someone based on reviews why not email the reviewer direct?
People like different things... i like my omnia at the mo but i know a lot of ppl dont like it! A lot of ppl like SE phones i know a lot of ppl who dont... thats life, not everyone is going to like wot u like and hate what u hate so learn to cope with that and life will be much more fun for you...
Posted by LouisLoh
Because there's overall less light in the i7110 and N79 picture compared to the i7110 and N85 one, the i7110 will appear apparently brighter.
Stars appear to be brighter next to the moon than next to the sun, but their *real* brightness remains the same. Get it?
Posted by se_dude
On 2008-11-01 13:16:28, LouisLoh wrote:
Stars appear to be brighter next to the moon than next to the sun, but their *real* brightness remains the same. Get it?
OMG, What a stupid conclusion is this.Made me laugh.
Actually, i havent compared the brightness "at night" between the sun and the stars, so cant really say.
I agree, as the camera had more light to play with in the case of the i7110 it looked way brighter. But, if you are to provide comparison pics, pertaining to the display, why do so when we can clearly see the i7110 pics to better than the N85.
[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2008-11-01 12:23 ]
Posted by gtr83
@SE_dude
It's the usual suspects, if you catch my drift.
Posted by MWEB
On 2008-11-01 13:53:11, gtr83 wrote:
@SE_dude
It's the usual suspects, if you catch my drift.
And the usual S@D-dudes asking the same old questions, bias ?, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Posted by gtr83
@MWEB
Now that's an interesting metaphor.
Posted by Dups!
The man was always writing favourably about SE not so long ago. The facts are that SE dropped the ball and Nokia ran with it, simple as that. I agree that he tends to lose it now and then but overall his reviews are fair.
He gets harsh where SE is concerned because they are screwing up. I prefer SE to other brands but they are behind at the moment and I'm not going to defend them in this.
As for those pics it's where I refer to him losing it every now and then.
Posted by indup
even if eldar is pro nokia thats his perogative and if you dont like it no one is forcing you to go to his site or read his reviews.
so if he is pro nokia maybe he has good reason to be so through user experience or whatever and not because of underhanded reasons as some may think.
is this forum pro se?
[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2008-11-01 19:18 ]
Posted by gtr83
Try to see it from a different perspective: Just as Eldar has every right to be pro-Nokia, SE_dude also has the very same prerogative to think that Eldar is indeed pro-Nokia
Posted by MWEB
On 2008-11-01 20:59:23, gtr83 wrote:
Try to see it from a different perspective: Just as Eldar has every right to be pro-Nokia, SE_dude also has the very same prerogative to think that Eldar is indeed pro-Nokia
Anyone is free to believe whatever they choose to, but after 6 years in the game, if i had a quid for everytime some fanboy, of whatever make, disgruntled by a less than stellar review of their precious, accused Eldar of bias, then i could retire a millionaire
Posted by gtr83
The same can be said for whenever an Apple fanboy recites the "technological advances" of an iPhone then
Posted by MWEB
On 2008-11-01 21:08:40, gtr83 wrote:
The same can be said for whenever an Apple fanboy recites the "technological advances" of an iPhone then
On that, we can most definitely agree
Posted by LouisLoh
On 2008-11-01 13:21:21, se_dude wrote:
On 2008-11-01 13:16:28, LouisLoh wrote:
Stars appear to be brighter next to the moon than next to the sun, but their *real* brightness remains the same. Get it?
OMG, What a stupid conclusion is this.Made me laugh.
Actually, i havent compared the brightness "at night" between the sun and the stars, so cant really say.
I agree, as the camera had more light to play with in the case of the i7110 it looked way brighter. But, if you are to provide comparison pics, pertaining to the display, why do so when we can clearly see the i7110 pics to better than the N85.
[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2008-11-01 12:23 ]
Wasn't I trying to answer your point on
"Now for some strange reason, the pic used to compare with the N79 has greater brightness than the one used aainst the N85."
Posted by jj03
eldar's no worse in his praise for nokia than say. . Plank is everytime he posts a c902 pic. That dude literally creams himself with excitement at the awesomeness of his own pics .lmfao. Unbelievable.