Posted by AbuBasim
On 2008-11-13 15:34:33, gforce23 wrote:
Sony has just announced the Exmor IMX060PQ CMOS sensor, which paired with its matching auto-focus lens module (IU060F), will turn some lucky handset into a 1/3.2, 12.25 megapixel shooter when it enters the race in March 2009.
Conflicting information in Sony's announcement. They announced two sensors. The 1/3.2" is an 8 MP while the 12 MP is 1/2.5" (thank goodness!).
The 8 MP may be the one used in the C905!
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2008-11-13 17:07 ]
Posted by naveedaziz83
^^ the crop looks absolutely amazing in the above pic ..... makes me wait to get a new phone .. grr
Posted by se_dude
Awesome news man!!! So its SE vs Samsung again next year??
Posted by gforce23
On 2008-11-13 18:06:52, AbuBasim wrote:
Conflicting information in Sony's announcement. They announced two sensors. The 1/3.2" is an 8 MP while the 12 MP is 1/2.5" (thank goodness!).
The 8 MP may be the one used in the C905!
I thought the C905 used a Samsung-branded sensor?
Posted by se_dude
On 2008-11-13 19:33:18, gforce23 wrote:
On 2008-11-13 18:06:52, AbuBasim wrote:
Conflicting information in Sony's announcement. They announced two sensors. The 1/3.2" is an 8 MP while the 12 MP is 1/2.5" (thank goodness!).
The 8 MP may be the one used in the C905!
I thought the C905 used a Samsung-branded sensor?
Thats patheitcally old,counterfieted news!!
Posted by AbuBasim
^^^ AFAIK, the older prototypes used a Samsung sensor. SE replaced it with the EXMOR sensor later and at the same time simplified the camera UI.
Posted by se_dude
I dont think the sensor has to do anything with the UI, unless you count in the ISO.
Hasnt samsung announced a 12 mp camphone for 2009 too??
Posted by gforce23
On 2008-11-14 10:04:21, se_dude wrote:
I dont think the sensor has to do anything with the UI, unless you count in the ISO.
Hasnt samsung announced a 12 mp camphone for 2009 too??
IIRC, Samsung's flagship has 10MP and 3x optical zoom.
Posted by AbuBasim
On 2008-11-14 10:04:21, se_dude wrote:
I dont think the sensor has to do anything with the UI, unless you count in the ISO.
That's what I was referring to. They dropped the manual ISO selection.
Without actually knowing why they did this, my own theory is that they needed to speed up the development (by simplifying the camera UI software) since they changed sensor type so late. (The more cynical would say that Sony's sensor was not capable of using the higher ISOs of the Samsung sensor so they simply removed the option...)
Posted by se_dude
Anyone wont be that cynical, seeing that even the K850/c902 had manual iso's.
Posted by AbuBasim
Does the C902 have manual ISO?
Posted by SE-Naz
C902 does not have manual ISO...
I have had the handset and never seen that option...
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Posted by c96sthl
sorry..get off topic...nowadays it seem only SE and Samsung on the megapixel war while Nokia and LG seem to be following or something hot are brewing in their design centre?
Motorola ...well don't know. Everyone is into 8 megapixel war...they only join the 5megapixel gang.
but I notice one thing....it seem like even Samsung don't really provide much phone with optical zoom. As if the optical zoom war is over or it never get started
Posted by jjjajjj
On 2008-11-13 18:06:52, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2008-11-13 15:34:33, gforce23 wrote:
Sony has just announced the Exmor IMX060PQ CMOS sensor, which paired with its matching auto-focus lens module (IU060F), will turn some lucky handset into a 1/3.2, 12.25 megapixel shooter when it enters the race in March 2009.
Conflicting information in Sony's announcement. They announced two sensors. The 1/3.2" is an 8 MP while the 12 MP is 1/2.5" (thank goodness!).
The 8 MP may be the one used in the C905!
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2008-11-13 17:07 ]
NO it's not the same sensor
Because the two modules ( 8.11 Mp & 12.24 Mp ) claimed to be industry’s smallest and thinnest in their class
And we all know that does not apply on the c905
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Posted by Bialynia
NO it's not the same sensor
Because the two modules ( 8.11 Mp & 12.24 Mp ) claimed to be industry’s smallest and thinnest in their class
And we all know that does not apply on the c905
Thankfully it does not since the C905 has a better 1/2.8, whatever candybar they stick that new 8mp sensor in simply won't be as good in lowlight as the c905.
Posted by AbuBasim
On 2008-11-17 19:08:51, Bialynia wrote:
Thankfully it does not since the C905 has a better 1/2.8, whatever candybar they stick that new 8mp sensor in simply won't be as good in lowlight as the c905.
What is your source for this? Are you sure this is the sensor size and not the aperture?
Posted by Bialynia
On 2008-11-18 06:34:51, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2008-11-17 19:08:51, Bialynia wrote:
Thankfully it does not since the C905 has a better 1/2.8, whatever candybar they stick that new 8mp sensor in simply won't be as good in lowlight as the c905.
What is your source for this? Are you sure this is the sensor size and not the aperture?
Yes, I meant the aperture.
Posted by AbuBasim
On 2008-11-14 20:05:19, jjjajjj wrote:
On 2008-11-13 18:06:52, AbuBasim wrote:
The 8 MP may be the one used in the C905!
NO it's not the same sensor
Because the two modules ( 8.11 Mp & 12.24 Mp ) claimed to be industry’s smallest and thinnest in their class
And we all know that does not apply on the c905
The camera module may not be the same but SE maybe used the same sensor inside a different, more bulkier camera module.
Posted by RedSpiDer
Anything new about Sony`s 12mp phone??
Posted by Raiderski
no and that's good
Posted by White Girl
In my opinion, having 12 mega pixels camera in the phone is pointless.
If you want to make a clear picture for a huge paper, would you even use the phone's camera?! Nah. You would want to use some professional camera.. This is just a mega pixels competition in the market now.
Posted by NightBlade
The more megapixels, the clearer the pcture in smaller resolutions.
It's never about the full-size photos.
Posted by AbuBasim
On 2009-01-27 19:03:16, NightBlade wrote:
It's never about the full-size photos.
Yeah, because we all know what those are bound to look like, don't we?
Posted by mario2004
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Hmmm . . . Enters the race in march 2009 ! That's like in 3 weeks from now. Which fanboy is going to buy it first? Man, this is reeealy HOT news. Nice one SE.
Posted by bodeh6
So could the 12MP Kokura be announced at CeBit in March?
Posted by wiraperkasa
On 2009-02-11 02:35:55, bodeh6 wrote:
So could the 12MP Kokura be announced at CeBit in March?
who knows ?
Posted by Raiderski
mario2004
1.4µm pixel size, no thanks
Posted by gtr83
@Raiderski
Be more specific please?
Posted by mario2004
YES - SE just announce it ! And is running the s60 OS ! For a chage I love SE
Lets hope,Nokia won't suck then dry with patent infringements. While Symbian is open source by now, the S60 touch is a bit of a problem. Yes one can use the os (more or less at will) but to get there the hardware must be designed in a 'certain way' and this is where Nokia smiles all the way to the bank. Huh, and all of a sudden I don't like Nokia anymore - if they play dirty 
It reminds me of the South African goverment: Under public pressure, they gave a certain amount of watter free for all BUT one must pay a fee to get access to the tab
Posted by Supa_Fly
Is the KoKura supposed to be the Idou?
Is this a conversation/Thread about the Idou or seperate device?
IF
chooses to implement the "USB Type A (host)" - this will change the game. No other smartphone has implemented this feature since the good old PDA days of Casio's last PocketPC device almost 6yrs ago.
Posted by norbi_nw
Change topic name to "IDOU"
since we will start the opinion war
Now finally SE made a phone that is PRETTY, SMART (symbian 9.3 or ++), and with a good camera (well better than my G900) and TOUCHscreen... Well made SE
) i hope it will be smart, fast, good, and released soon so excited about it now...
Posted by larry 68
Think ive finally found a replacement for my k850i, only problem will be resisting the urge to get it as soon as its released.
Posted by echo.shane
hope it wont be expensive like 800usd or more
Posted by norbi_nw
so walkman and cyber-shot all rolled into 1... with symbian. It will be a Cyber-Walkman-Smart phone.. my dream come true.. now the only thing that scares me, will be THE PRICE
man will this be expensive! )
Posted by Mr Miyagi
On 2009-02-15 22:40:15, larry 68 wrote:
Think ive finally found a replacement for my k850i, only problem will be resisting the urge to get it as soon as its released.
Me too Larry lol
Posted by mrmilo69
When is this phone going to hit the streets, june to august sort of window?
Posted by strizlow800
On 2009-02-15 22:53:54, Mr Miyagi wrote:
On 2009-02-15 22:40:15, larry 68 wrote:
Think ive finally found a replacement for my k850i, only problem will be resisting the urge to get it as soon as its released.
Me too Larry lol
Not only for K850... The Idou
looks like as a replacement for any previous phone... Even the smartphone owners can upgrade to this jewel without worries... Hope this model won't be buggy and will proove it's specs and itself worth buying.
Posted by echo.shane
On 2009-02-15 23:49:24, strizlow800 wrote:
On 2009-02-15 22:53:54, Mr Miyagi wrote:
On 2009-02-15 22:40:15, larry 68 wrote:
Think ive finally found a replacement for my k850i, only problem will be resisting the urge to get it as soon as its released.
Me too Larry lol
Not only for K850... The Idou
looks like as a replacement for any previous phone... Even the smartphone owners can upgrade to this jewel without worries... Hope this model won't be buggy and will proove it's specs and itself worth buying.
well i will definitely be my upgrade unless they have and upgrade or the p1 that will really blow my mind. hope it has all the onborad features a smart phone has. hope its not buggy and if it is hope they make update fast for it and contentiously making updates for the phone until its 1000% stable
Posted by Fredrix
Idou
Posted by batesie
On 2009-02-16 00:30:12, Fredrix wrote:
Idou
Thats more like it
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2009-02-15 22:47:27, norbi_nw wrote:
so walkman and cyber-shot all rolled into 1... with symbian. It will be a Cyber-Walkman-Smart phone.. my dream come true.. now the only thing that scares me, will be THE PRICE
man will this be expensive! )
Frankly I'm quite surprised SE finally gave it to demands from fans Old & New: Bring us Cybershot and Walkman features without cramping either's style or limiting us in quality.
delivered finally on BOTH the W995a & Idou.
However, I don't know if Idou will be in my pocket as its using the SE proprietary headset/USB connection and no specific photo showing use of 3.5mm headset jack. Odd as the SE W995a has BOTH!
Posted by KingBooker5
12 mp on a phone !? !?
Wait and again.. surely I read that wrong.. 12 mp!? jesus thats a bit overboard for a phone?
Posted by NightBlade
Ugh, the phone runs on SF.
Posted by echo.shane
On 2009-02-16 00:41:45, NightBlade wrote:
Ugh, the phone runs on SF.
wat does sf means?
Posted by NightBlade
Symbian Foundation.
Posted by Fredrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXbOvc8WIzQ
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2009-02-16 00:57:36, NightBlade wrote:
Symbian Foundation.
Symbian Foundation OS - and Symbian FREAK!
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=182007&start=0
Idou encapsulates the future of mobile entertainment in the palm of your hand delivering visual communication like never before.
Capture moments, talk through pictures and share all your experiences like never before with the 12.1 megapixel camera, intuitive touch features and Xenon flash. Tap directly into your favourite videos and tracks with the full-touch media menu and feast your eyes on movies, TV-series and video clips in true 16:9 widescreen format. Based on what will become the Symbian Foundation operating system, thousands of applications are available online letting you install new applications and download exciting content from PlayNow™ to make the Idou truly yours.
Capture moments, talk through pictures and share all your experiences like never before with the 12.1 megapixel camera, intuitive touch features and Xenon flash. Tap directly into your favourite videos and tracks with the full-touch media menu and feast your eyes on movies, TV-series and video clips in true 16:9 widescreen format. Based on what will become the Symbian Foundation operating system, thousands of applications are available online letting you install new applications and download exciting content from PlayNow™ to make the Idou truly yours.
Oh yeah .. but I want that 3.5mm jack & FastPort like the SE W995!!!
Posted by echo.shane
its so funny how you cant satisfy people. you ask for it you got it stop complaining
@prom1 that was meant for you and all the other wanna be se fans
Posted by mode
I'm sold! SE, you had me at 'touchscreen camera'. I'm glad you beautiful people provided us with this freak of nature. Wow, I haven't sounded like this in ages! Now...back to being a fanboy again...
Posted by mario2004
Wow - After I 'broke' the news in this tread (a few hours ago),it caught 'fire'.
The nice thing about this cell is its OS. It will use the mighty s60,which I know inside out and 'pushed' since my 7650 Is not only a 'cybershot' and 'walkman' and what have you, but its also a SMARTPHONE ! Let's hope Nokia won't be to strict with their patents, in which case, SE should have it bug free just in time for christmas