Posted by scouser_75
Yup. Factory unlocked in Italy.
Posted by scouser_75
Well, seeing as the phone's a little messed already I thought I'd have a go at Jailbreaking it in the hope that this possibly sorts out the wi-fi issue.
But even after successfully jailbreaking wi-fi is still greyed out
I took it down to the apple store and saw a "genius" who in no certain terms told me to get on my bike!!!
I'm a little peed off at myself now for getting this phone now
Posted by masseur
I've just done some googling and this seems to have been happening to people since the early days.
Unfortunately most that I have read have been hardware faults which were then replaced by Apple
Posted by scouser_75
Thanks Masseur for doing that mate.
I done the same and am a bit gutted now
I guess I can always try to send it back to Apple Italy. But it'll cost for sending and plus I'll be without the phone for some time.
Oh, now that I've jailbroken, can I still Restore the phone to it's factory settings? Or will I have to Un-Jailbreak first?
[ This Message was edited by: scouser_75 on 2008-10-19 18:39 ]
Posted by NoKia
On 2008-10-16 16:39:05, RyaN wrote:
@DragonEye, are you referring to Insomnia as the multitasking app? The one thats available in Cydia and allows apps (non-app store) to continue running in the background after you've hit the home button...
Also whats the forward SMS app that you mention!?
i think irealsms is the best sms replacement app
Posted by masseur
On 2008-10-07 11:54:58, masseur wrote:
I haven't found any apps that can do sky remote record from the iPhone yet, except by navigating to the web page where you can click to record just as you would on a pc. The ones that sky do provide are java so none of those would work.
Unfortunately because of the way sky have that web page setup so you can pan around the program listings while maintaining the top and side bars means that it doesn't look too great on the iPhone
update on this. TV Plus has now become available on the app store for an introductory price of £2.99 and this include remote record capability
I'm just giving it a try now
Posted by scouser_75
Nice one Masseur. Let us know how you find it.
I'm going to download it when I get home tonight (as I have no wi-fi access so have to download it off my Mac!!!).
Oh, and apprently, according to an Apple Genius I saw yesterday, App Store can only be accessed via Wi-Fi. But I'm sure some of you boys are accessing it via your internet on the phone. Is that correct?
Posted by masseur
Itunes is the only one that can only be accessed via wifi
youtube and app store can both be access via 3g and wifi
Posted by scouser_75
... and this guy calls himself a "Genius"!!!
He was totally adamant that App Store couldn't be accessed via internet on the handset!
Posted by fatreg
right....
someone at work has just bought a payg iphone, he's on o2 pay monthly.
what does he need to do to get mms, wap etc working?
ta!
Posted by RyaN
For MMS he's gonna need to jailbreak it first and then dl an app called SwirlyMMS. Obviously he'll also need to have MMS provisioned on his account...shouldn't be a prob if he's on a non-iphone tariff
The settings for internet etc should be put in: Setting > General > Network > Cellular Data Network.... then APN: mobile.o2.co.uk, username: o2wap, password: password
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
WAP? On an iPhone?
Posted by Berry
FYI - O2 unprovisioned my MMS but i still have Swirly working fine.
And the settings are the same.
Posted by scouser_75
Oh man!!! Just when I got used to living with no wifi I have another problem!!!
Now my phone wont wake from sleep when there's an incoming call!
I tried calling my iPhone from my landline. It would ring but the iphone won't ring or wake up... it wont even vibrate.
But when I wake it I see the missed call!
I've tried resetting it and all that but again no luck
HELP PLEASE
Posted by masseur
unfortunately that was another issue that came up alot when I was researching your wifi issue
again, the only solution I read was a replacement
just check the obvious though, that you don't have vibrate turned off AND have Ring turned off too
Posted by scouser_75
LOL! Already checked Masseur.
Looks more and more likely that I'm going to have to suss out a way of sending it back to Apple Italy for a replacement.
But apparently I would need to send it to a residential address in Italy, who would then have to send it to Apple. Who would then have to send it back to a resisidential address in Italy. Who could then send it back to me!!!!
WOW!!!
Posted by masseur
surely Apple have an EU (if not worldwide) warranty?
can't you just tell them here that you bought it while on holiday?
the only problem might be having a receipt, but then you'll have that problem if you send it back to Italy too I guess
Posted by RyaN
On 2008-10-21 11:19:05, tmagberry wrote:
FYI - O2 unprovisioned my MMS but i still have Swirly working fine.
And the settings are the same.
Really? Mine still doesnt work, and o2 havent provisioned it on my account. I asked them to do it once, but obviously they didnt do it right. Can send, just cant receive
@scouser_75 I feel for you, i really do! Of all the people, it would happen to you wouldn't it. Is there any chance of getting the receipt from the seller, or at least seeing if he/she can do something for you?
Posted by scouser_75
Oddly enough they don't have even EU wide warranty. The warranty only applies to country of purchase!
And almost as odd, I do actually have a receipt
My one possible life-line - I hope!?!?!?
I really do like Apple products. But at the same time I really do not like the way they deal with post purchase customers. I mean, most big companies offer worldwide warranties. So why not Apple. I could kind of understand why they don't do it for the iPhone (people buying unlocked phones from Italy etc etc). But they don't do it for other products either!
I'm not saying this just because of my iPhone experience, but because of other stuff that happened to several friends of mine when they bought Apple products.
I swore then that I would not buy another Apple product - even though I do like my Mac to bits! And if they don't resolve this matter for me I may abandon them for sure.
I need principles
Posted by RyaN
Have you tried just taking it back in to the Apple Store and explaining the situation to them, that you bought it whilst on holiday etc and that you need it returning to Italy. Perhaps they might arrange to send it back to Apple Italy for you for a charge or whatever. Worth asking maybe
Posted by scouser_75
yup. But they just dont want to know. Which is the annoying thing.
I explained that I would pay the total cost of sending both ways, and also that it made sense going via Apple as they could explain the entire situation. But they flatly refuse to do so as it was against T&C.
I think it's because they really do not want people to use unlocked phones!
Posted by RyaN
bummer. Only options i guess are trying to contact the person you bought it off and see if they can sort it out, but that'd mean giving the phone back to them and could be a bit risky. Unless there's a respected member on here from Italy that you could entrust to sort it out.
Other than that - keep an eye out for a cheap easyJet flight!!
Have you tried phoning an Apple Store in Italy?
Posted by Berry
Would taking Apple Care avoid these issues?
I would assume once you have bought Apple Care no matter where you bought the product from should allow you to get Apple Service.
I only ask, as Argos sell Apple Care.
Posted by scouser_75
Well, an update on my dire situation
After a massive struggle, I managed to get one very nice lady at Apple Customer Services to arrange for my phone to be sent back to Italy for repair. BUT I would have to pay fully for the delivery to and from Italy
She asked me to take it to the App Store Regent Street to see if they'd agree to send it for me if I paid them.
So I took it into Apple Store Regent Street Also saw a Genius. The Genius dude was quite nice. But when I spoke to the manager, it was a different story altogether. It seemed like the manager thought he owned Apple, and came out with sarcastic remarks such as "why would I want to send the phone back for you?". "what would I gain from doing this for you". I kept telling him that I was prepared to pay for both deliveries, and the only reason I was asking them to send it for me was so that the repairer in Italy knew exactly what was wrong with the phone. But the manager was absolutely menacingly rude.
But to cut a very loooooong story short, the phone is now on its way back to Italy. It will hopefully be fully repired or replaced and back with me in 2 weeks(ish).
The guy who I bought the phone from said theres no way I get a refund off him. But he has said that he'll pay something towards the delivery cost. I just hope he stands by his word.......
TBC
Posted by RyaN
Well well...
Thanks for the update. I really hope you get this sorted out quickly. It must leave a nasty taste in your mouth after spending so long debating to let go of that much moolah.
As for the kn*b-end in the Apple Shop, unfortunately the title of Manager goes to some peoples heads too much and they think the rule the roost. I'm sure Mr Jobs wouldnt like his staff speaking to people like that!
yes, make sure you report back here to let us know how it went!
Posted by scouser_75
Will do mate.
As for the n0b head manager - I realised after I'd walked out of the store that he had actually broken the law in a way! I asked for a print out of all the notes they made on my faulty handset. he turned round and said there was no way they'd let me have these notes as they were soley for their purpose.
But I forgot to inform him of the Personal Information act. And as I'd registered the iPhone with Apple I was entitled to any notes they made on the product!!!
May take this up with Apple soon. But right now I just want my phone back
(sound like a little kid now dont I : D )
Posted by dicky
Send an email to Mr Jobs direct. im sure he'd like to here about it
sjobs@apple.com or steve@mac.com
Posted by londonlad123
Is there a difference in the amount of ram available to Safari between the iphone and the ipod touch? Or could it be the different firmwares?
My iphone on fw 1.3 can display this page with every single picture but the touch on 2.1 cant.
Anyone with a iphone on 2.0+ fw want to try this link out to see if Safari displays every single pic?
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]nokia-s60-5th-edition-en.shtml
Posted by RyaN
Yeah a few of the screencaps didnt load, and has just left a '?' instead of the pic. Also refreshed the page and same thing. This is on an iPhone 2.1fw
Posted by Scoobyd
I'm not getting this no worldwide warranty thing. I thought Apple products did have that? I had an ipod touch that I bought in America a couple of years ago. It developed a fault when I updated it to the Version 2.0 software which on googling turned out to be a common one. Booked an appointment with a Genius at the Apple Store in Brent Cross and after trying and failing to fix it he just replaced it with a brand new one for me, no questions asked. Is this not standard practice then?
Posted by haynesycop
http://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/
Posted by londonlad123
On 2008-10-22 20:08:50, RyaN wrote:
Yeah a few of the screencaps didnt load, and has just left a '?' instead of the pic. Also refreshed the page and same thing. This is on an iPhone 2.1fw
Cheers Ryan. On my iphone 1.3fw it loads the page with every single picture everytime but kicks you out the browser sometime but not often. Though on the touch 2.1fw it loads the page faster so Apple's decided to make it faster at the expense of loading bigger pages. Might stick with 1.3fw.
Posted by bavlondon2
I heard that Palringo is turning out to be a bit of a dodgy app what with it storing conversations ect....Anyone care to comment? I did hear it asked you for credit card details but that was only when using certain words like order which would trigger such questions.
Posted by londonlad123
What's the best MSN app at the moment? still Apollo?
Posted by bavlondon2
Best free one? I dunno probably. I was quite happy with Palringo tbh. Anyway Ryan reccomended Beejive. I checked it out and it looks really good and very well praised. Only thing is it's £9.99. I guess it's ok in the sense that I only need to buy it once.
Posted by Boinng
Well I have my Iphone now (since Saturday) and what can I say that hasn't been said already. It is an absolutely amazing gadget, and light years ahead of anything else I've seen or used.
There are some things it doesn't do, as we all know, but everything it does, it does so much better it's unreal. The UI is an absolute triumph, and makes the various attempts to prettify Windows Mobile look really shameful.
Battery life is already far, far better than I was expecting too, and is bound to improve as the battery gets conditioned. Bloody brilliant!
Posted by nicv27
On 2008-10-27 09:40:56, Boinng wrote:
Well I have my Iphone now (since Saturday) and what can I say that hasn't been said already. It is an absolutely amazing gadget, and light years ahead of anything else I've seen or used.
There are some things it doesn't do, as we all know, but everything it does, it does so much better it's unreal. The UI is an absolute triumph, and makes the various attempts to prettify Windows Mobile look really shameful.
Battery life is already far, far better than I was expecting too, and is bound to improve as the battery gets conditioned. Bloody brilliant!
I got my 16 gb one yesterday and i agree totally, For the last few years i have been a n series die hard and and truely thought the n96 would be where i would go next.
I`m so glad i got this
Posted by Nanu
On 2008-10-25 18:57:29, londonlad123 wrote:
What's the best MSN app at the moment? still Apollo?
IM+ is free but I prefer Beejive as it serves me well on both the Bold and Touch
Posted by RyaN
Welcome to the club boys... enjoy!
Definitely recommend beejive, visually it's leagues ahead of anything else i've used and for functionality i would say IM+ is the closest to it but still doesnt touch it. £9.99 is a bit steep though for a messenger app
Posted by whizkidd
Google Earth for the iPhone launched..
http://www.whizkiddreloaded.c[....]gle-earth-comes-to-iphone.html
Posted by RyaN
nice one whizz, downloading now
Posted by nicv27
Me too
thanks again
Posted by whizkidd
You're welcome folks!
Btw, me checked out the app.. my first views are penned here.. with screenshots.. nice feel.. quit similar to the desktop experience!
http://www.techtree.com/India[....]w_on_iPhone/551-94519-580.html
Posted by masseur
it does work well though I've always wondered why, even on the desktop, we need google earth *and* google maps? do they not provide the same maps?
Posted by whizkidd
..... and isnt maps easier.? I mean, with streetview and stuff, its more "usable" than Google earth which seems to Have a good eye candy.. and thats just about it..
Posted by nicv27
Just one little question about my iphone, is it not possible to forward a received text message?
thanks
Posted by RyaN
yurp indeed it is, but only on a jailbroken iphone using bitesms
Posted by nicv27
ok,thanks for info
Posted by RyaN
np. Are you not jailbroken then?
Posted by nicv27
No only got it yesterday. is it tricky to do? and does it affect your warranty etc?