Posted by londonlad123
Its definately with a contract.
Posted by PeterKay
If its with a contract, then its gonna be expensive overall.
but $199 sounds good with no contract
we wish.
Posted by mswallis
on one of the pages on apple.com it definitely says about a 24 month contract in the US.
And they're not exactly going to break there agreement with o2.
Why else would they have an agreement with only 1 operator in each country if they were going to begin selling it sim free. It will be pretty much the same as the first iPhone.
Posted by PeterKay
gonna stick to
then
Posted by shanespencer
https://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paymonthly
http://iphone.o2.co.uk/registeryourinterest/DataCapture.aspx?id=1
Posted by Superluminova
Those o2 prices are still such a rip off.
Posted by shanespencer
I've registered my interest. The wife's already told me she's having my old iPhone in July - I had no choice!
Also:
Tom Tom to be released for iPhone
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Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
The price is really good fro what you get but will any of the things like MobileMail, or the more interactive features work through the Apple Servers? if you don't activate it via iTunes?
Personally i really like the MobileMail app and all that it provides for 99$ a year.In fact i like nearly all of the improvements but the problem i had with my first one still exist.
It not's what most of you would guess firstly the Web app not remembering the size you want and needing to be expanded for each page. In Calendar having to use that spinning clock to enter the time drove me nuts. Those were the two that really drove me nuts and made me sell it.
But at this price i may well try one again to see if i like it any better, but i do wonder if you will need a contract to access many of the features. If you do this will really of been a brilliant move by Apple to combat Jail braking IMO.
As for this Intelligent and scouser
"but for me iPhone wins clearly. Watching movies / photos / surfing / mp3 / just playing around / .. - can`t be done better on any other phone right now. "
I have to say for Watching Movies/surfing/Documents/Calendar/Clocks and Alarms/ SatNav/Skype
My E90 is for me much better than the iPhone was in fact only Photo's and Music where better on the iPhone.
Marc
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Posted by spikeyjac
So for me to have the same contract that I'm on atm its going to cost me £42.50 a month as I would have to add a bolt on.
Hmm thats not too bad!
But my contract doesnt run out till december
Oh well gives me alot of time to think! Lol!
Posted by gola
Wow, Apple made so much money out of the first iphones that they wouldn't be making any loss if they give these 3g ones for free. No wonder they are so cheap
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I am sitting on the fence a bit over this announcement. For me this is like almost every announcement that apple makes. Every year they bring out an update, and its not very often that these updates hold anything substantial. For example, the iPod. Since the colour iPod came out, they released a new one every year and the only real upgrades were slightly different shells or a little more memory. Only last year did they really upgrade the software and that was because it was sorely needed - The old software was beginning to look just that: Old. Even then it was mostly just a cosmetic upgrade. The same goes for the iPod Nano too.
This upgrade to the iPhone is similar. It really hasn't added much to the look of the phone - not many people could spot the differences over the two generations' appearances. 3G has been added which is great (and I'm glad they didn't put a video call camera on it. A lot of people seem to think thats what 3G means), and the same for GPS, but to be honest I think they could have done more. There were a lot more complaints about the original that could have been fixed, but this seems to only be the usual Apple light upgrade. People wanted more. People expected more. And thats the reason why I think many feel a bit let down.
Posted by apolloa
Apple release the 3G iPhone.........
And it's still crap IMO, no front facing cam, STILL no MMS (For God's sake Apple, no MMS, geeees a 20 quid pay as you go has it.....) Bigger, STILL no user replacable battery. Nice to AGPS but if it's a premium 3G phone IMO it MUST have a front facing cam regardless if your gonna use it or not. It will no doubt cost £100 in the UK on that 18 month contract and will be the only phone lacking in the simplest things.
Still only good for the amazing interface. Watch Nokia, HTC, SE smell blood......
Just to add, how are people gonna sell their used iPhone ones when they will only work on O2 contracts without hacking them?
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Posted by fbloise
This is the major disadvantage: The videocall feature.
This feature isn't ready in the U.S. but that doesn't mean the rest of the world falls for the same shitt@#$ design.
Most (I think 100%) of Europe has videocall feature.
Here in Dominican republic we do have videocall.
I dont care the greedy americans doesn't have or aren't allowed to have it by some greedy corporation!
Apple should compare which features are necessary instead of been victim of their own success (by the 1st iphone)
Posted by smilerthe cheshirecat
iPhone on o2 payandgo....
https://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paygo
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I can't believe people are complaining about the video call feature. Is it just because every single fake had it and the real thing doesn't? The truth is that the majority of mobile phone users, despite having the feature on their phone, don't even use it! I know a few people that do, but there's no point in putting it on a device for the very few that will use it. Many manufacturers such as Sony Ericsson have been excluding the feature from recent 3G phones for this reason. I think Apple were right not to have it.
Posted by themarques
Everyone is crying for MMS and Video Calling, but honestly MMS is such a dying format, why pay £0.50p to send one or whatever price it is these days, for a low quality res picture when everyone is pushing towards email on the move. And even when you do have MMS how many times a month do you use it. I personally dont even bother, its one of those that if you dont have email on your phone check the picture when you get home.
Video calling well thats worse, overpriced and blocky and half the people I knew never wanted to be seen on camera, Japan has had the tech for ages and is rarely used if I can be honest. Not a dying format but hardly something I will miss.
Will I get one, doubt it.. I am on pre-order for the blackberry bold.
P.s.s For those that bought .mac address does that mean your email address will change to @mobileme thats cr*p I prefered the @mac.com
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
@themarques: Thank you. Someone else who sees it logically.
Posted by apolloa
Sounds like Steve's famous 'Reality Field' is hitting hard LOL.
What about this then, no A2DP support and no Video recording feature. Are you going to say, nah no one uses those anyway. Also has no flash support.
EDIT:
I am not against Apple by the way, the iPhone has the best interface bar none hands down. Like there computers which is why i got a Mac Book Pro last year. It has had some niggles but the OS makes up for it sooo much. Snow Leopard looks VERY interesting.
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Posted by Dogmann
@apolla
I have to be honest with you The marques and others are quite right Video calling is used by so few people it's officially considered a flop.
As for A2DP i have used both an SE DS970 and Nokia BH-500 and whilst no wires is nice the sound is no where as good as using a wired solution. So until A2DP is as good as the wired solution there really is no reason to use it especially when it comes to listening to Muisc.
@all
I have just noticed that both the Apple site and 02 both state you will only be able to get your iPhone from an 02 or CPW or online. So i am pretty convinced this means the 3G iPhone will be sold with a contract only.
Which i also think is the only way you will be able to use many of the newly announced services with a activated via those sources iPhone.
Marc
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Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2008-06-10 02:23:07, apolloa wrote:
Sounds like Steve's famous 'Reality Field' is hitting hard LOL.
What about this then, no A2DP support and no Video recording feature. Are you going to say, nah no one uses those anyway. Also has no flash support.
No I agree with you there. Video recording definitely should be there. But I agree with Dogmann that A2DP would be nice, but is unnecessary.
Posted by ares
Just to end the '3g iphone is cheap nonsense'
http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/wp-mobile.php?p=1177
(btw, i copied and pasted this link from opera to opera mini on my p1, something you could not do on the jesus phone)
Posted by themarques
A US$30 discount for MobileMe.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-[....]TIzMzY&node=campaigns/mobileme
Posted by apolloa
I'll wait for a iPhone nano I can have on any network. Until I can have it on the network I want without having to hack it I'll leave it alone. I just see it as a brilliant flawed device at the mo. Keep trying Apple.
Posted by clauf
On 2008-06-09 23:23:32, alexlt wrote:
I'm confused too, and this imgae confuses me even more ...
Not 100% sure: but it has something to do with Safari vs. other web browsers. Safari is pretty fast and from what I heard, it's faster on SDK 2.0.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi caluf
The only way that could work is if it is an updated N95 and even then i would be surprised. It defiantly doesn't look like full speed HSDPA on the iPhone and read some where it may be just 1.8mbps HSDPA. What ever Steve wants to say about his browser it is better on my E90 than the iPhone as it remembers the size i want the page always to open in. Unlike the iPhone that makes you change for each frigging page you open.
More and more reports are all saying the 3G has to be activated at point of sale which in the UK will be 02 and CPW no more iPhone from an Apple store.
The more i read the more i am beginning to believe to use MobileMail or in fact the 3G iPhone it will have to bought and activated through an official channel. It looks to me that Apple reduced the price to entice people to buy them with contract as that will be the only way for the 3G version to be bought or work.
Marc
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Posted by BobaFett
doesnt speed depend on the operaotr aswell?
next to it, to comapre iphone with n95 is insane imo... apple is so far away from a nokia symbian like me too vladivostok...
Posted by smilerthe cheshirecat
Dogmann...
From what I have read... I do agree with you it looks like o2 and Apple at least are only going to allow activation in their stores only...as well as carphonewarehouse....
But for o2 at least.. it is not just contract....
"iPhone is coming soon for Pay & Go
Customers will soon be able to enjoy all the great features of iPhone without a monthly contract with the iPhone for Pay & Go.
Just register your interest opposite and we'll drop you a line in early July to tell you what you need to do to be one of the first to get your hands on the new 3G iPhone."
"Switching to O2 is easy and you can keep your existing number
Switching to iPhone is easy and we have a wide range of tariff options available to suit all your needs. To purchase an iPhone with a Pay & Go tariff you need to be over 16 or over 18 if you want to purchase online.
To keep your existing number, just contact your current network provider for a PAC code. Then let us know your PAC code when you purchase your iPhone in-store, or contact us online when you have received your iPhone. Your existing number will be transferred within two working days of us receiving the PAC code. We'll give you a temporary number whilst you wait for your number to transfer so you can continue to use your iPhone.
Where to buy?
You'll be able to purchase the iPhone online at o2.co.uk, in one or our O2 high street stores or by calling O2. It will also be available at The Carphone Warehouse."
"Existing O2 Pay & Go customers upgrade to iPhone
If you're an existing O2 Pay & Go customer and want to upgrade to iPhone, you can do so at anytime and may also be eligible for an upgrade reward. You can choose to take your upgrade reward as either call time or as a discount off the price of the iPhone if you buy in one of our O2 stores*.
You'll be able to upgrade to iPhone in one of our high street stores or by calling one of our upgrade advisors."
*Upgrade rewards are based on your top-ups over the last 18 months or since connection or your last upgrade whichever is the most recent. Call time reward is based on 10% of your top-ups up to £200 and handset discount is based on 5% of your top-ups.
From https://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paygo
No price advertised as yet....
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Posted by hiddensphinx
this is so going to be my next phone
no more symbian for me
Posted by soulsaber
yay this phone is coming to canada! now i can laugh at more people!
Posted by themarques
Funny thing, but correct me if I am wrong but the n95 runs a safari browser, so I am guessing its gonna be like the blackberry browser and compress stuff etc coming down the line.
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
I am so happy excisting o2 iPhone users can upgrade early and for free. Get the f-word in
Posted by mswallis
On 2008-06-10 09:16:43, whentheleveebreaks wrote:
I am so happy excisting o2 iPhone users can upgrade early and for free. Get the f-word in
It's only free to upgrade to the 8GB version if you go on the £45 a month tariff or above.
@Everyone moaning about no video call camera and MMS
Also while I'm here, why is everyone moaning about no video call camera, and mms. How many of you can say you actually use those features regularly enough to warrant having them.
If I have something and don't use it for 6 months I obviously don't need it and get rid of it.
Apple has looked and noticed that people don't use this stuff and haven't put it in. Apple does this all the time, I remember when they stopped putting floppy drives into their Macs, they noticed people had stopped using them, for CD-Rs etc, so decided to remove it. People moaned about that but look now, everyone has followed.
Move on, use e-mail, it's like mms but better!
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
agreed, plus in 3/4 years of having a front facing cam on mobiles i used it once, and it was terrible.
Posted by masseur
I totally agree. I've used video calling probably 4 times and only to test the feature on the various handsets I have had that capability on. I've never used it to make a real video call other than that.
I've also almost never used MMS preferring instead to send an email with a picture attachment. About the only tie I used MMS was in the T68i when it had the happy birthday template as that was quite cool
I've read on a few sites now that the HSDPA support is up to 3.6mbits but there's nothing definite on the apple site that I can find
I'm hoping that Garmin get their act together and put out their gps software for the iphone because I much prefer that over tomtom, though I have no idea even if tomtom are going to do it either
Posted by mswallis
On 2008-06-10 09:41:48, masseur wrote:
I'm hoping that Garmin get their act together and put out their gps software for the iphone because I much prefer that over tomtom, though I have no idea even if tomtom are going to do it either
Me thinks both Garmin and Tom Tom will both make software for the iPhone, they'd be silly not to. With the AppStore the market is going to be pretty big, in my opinion anyway.
Posted by voda_jon
and on engadget they have just dropped the bombshell that there wont be any more online activations at home!!!! will all be done in store or on line before u get the handset so bang goes buying one and jailbreaking by the looks....
taken from engadget:
Like many, you were probably planning on hanging back, sipping on Bacardi 151, and waiting for your new iPhone 3G to arrive in the mail following a timely pre-order. Unfortunately for your foot-kicked-onto-desk plans, Apple and AT&T have something else in mind. Word on the street is that you will not be able to purchase and / or activate a new device via any other method than in-store, thus doing a full 180 on the way the dream team was doing business last time around. So not only has Apple's revenue sharing gone into that good night, but it appears the innovative DIY activation that was such a big deal this time last year is shuffling off as well. So what gives guys? And more importantly, why are you making us leave the house? Hear what AT&T reps had to say about it after the break.
Ah well maybe o2 might get a few more customers from this!
Posted by mib1800
On 2008-06-10 09:37:06, mswallis wrote:
Also while I'm here, why is everyone moaning about no video call camera, and mms. How many of you can say you actually use those features regularly enough to warrant having them.
If I have something and don't use it for 6 months I obviously don't need it and get rid of it.
Agree with you here. Front facing camera is not that essential. I doubt many use 3G video call
Apple has looked and noticed that people don't use this stuff and haven't put it in. Apple does this all the time, I remember when they stopped putting floppy drives into their Macs, they noticed people had stopped using them, for CD-Rs etc, so decided to remove it. People moaned about that but look now, everyone has followed.
But not including video recording, BT support and better camera is just stupid.
Move on, use e-mail, it's like mms but better!
Why so desperate to defend Iphone at whatever silly means? Email is not better than MMS. There are completely different in application.
Posted by masseur
@voda_jon
but don't forget there is still the pay and go option of getting the iphone so you don't have to have a contract. just get the phone on payg and take it home and do as before.
its early days yet and I'm sure more about this topic will come to light
Posted by mswallis
@mib1800
True about the Bluetooth support, I think the main reason they do not allow you to send files via Bluetooth is because of the iPod functionality and copyright of the songs. As they sell songs through iTunes they obviously do not want people to be sharing songs bought from them. This doesn't answer why you cant send pictures and things though. I have to say I've had an iPhone for quite a while now and I don't miss not being able to receive or send things via Bluetooth, when someone hears a song they like that I've got and are like "send me that" I'm quite happy to be able to say I can't, much less annoying.
Yeah you're right e-mail and mms are different, with e-mail you can send and receive, full resolution photo's, mp3's, files, documents etc.
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Posted by whentheleveebreaks
Move on, use e-mail, it's like mms but better!
Why so desperate to defend Iphone at whatever silly means? Email is not better than MMS. There are completely different in application.
I think what was implied was that, more and more people are getting email on the mobiles now, and that is getting a more popular way to send pictures to your friends rather than sending out poor quality ones on mms.
Posted by mswallis
On 2008-06-10 09:59:02, whentheleveebreaks wrote:
Move on, use e-mail, it's like mms but better!
Why so desperate to defend Iphone at whatever silly means? Email is not better than MMS. There are completely different in application.
I think what was implied was that, more and more people are getting email on the mobiles now, and that is getting a more popular way to send pictures to your friends rather than sending out poor quality ones on mms.
Exactly what I meant.
Posted by masseur
although I'm not into it yet, blogging, flickr etc is also a common way of getting friends to view pics, and many people can see the pics for a relatively small data charge compared with sending the same pic to many people via MMS
MMS is surely dying. I don't know a single person who uses it
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
£59 for the 16gb on my existing contract. awesomely good value for money, definitely upgrading to one.
Posted by Aivar
Out of topic: I have used MMS sometimes. Just to send a picture or small videoclip to antother phone.
In of topic: Why the ipod is so special? For me it's just too big and heavy glossy phone. I even would not want it if I get paid for that
I like classic design, small size and weight (like T68i or K610i).
I HATE this glossy fashion! It's so unfriendly! It's beautifully glossy only once: when you pick it up from box.
Posted by mswallis
On 2008-06-10 10:12:31, whentheleveebreaks wrote:
£59 for the 16gb on my existing contract. awesomely good value for money, definitely upgrading to one.
What tariff are you on?
Posted by haynesycop
Well i'm chuffed to pieces, have been on an iPhone tariff since January so all i have to pay is £99, sweetness!
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
Cant decide on the black or white one.!
Posted by mswallis
On 2008-06-10 10:20:52, whentheleveebreaks wrote:
Cant decide on the black or white one.!
The white one is limited edition (or so I read somewhere on the Apple site) and only available in 16 GB, I like being in a minority so I'll be getting a white one, and it won't show the fingerprints as bad as the black one.
By the way what tariff are you on to get the 16GB one for £59 on upgrade?
Posted by DeLa
I was planning to get a G900 (wifi, screen, and it is a SE) but would I really have to pay €340 for the G900 while the new iPhone will be only €199? And has to be sim-free in my country.
Help! I do not want to leave SE, but this is really an offer you can't refuse.
Posted by mswallis
@masseur
TomTom already has iPhone navigation software ready to roll
from Engadget Mobile
Reading that has reminded me of the nuvifone, so don't expect the Garmin software on the iPhone anytime soon.
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