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Apple unveils the 3G iPhone

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Posted by MWEB

On 2009-03-25 17:34:11, RyaN wrote:
You should've turned it off straight away, once the water is inside and the electric current is still running thats when the problems occur. You are damn lucky it's still working!

As for the signal, thats not too bad... not a lot you can do now though. Warranty is screwed

So did you drop it down the loo? Hope you'd flushed beforehand!


That just begs for an iphone gag Ryan, but i shall resist
Glad its still working at least!


Posted by NoKia
lol ....no i stupidly dropped it in a bowl of water, only the bottom bit was submerged up until about half the height, will that register as water damage?



Posted by RyaN

On 2009-03-25 17:44:23, NoKia wrote:
lol ....no i stupidly dropped it in a bowl of water, only the bottom bit was submerged up until about half the height, will that register as water damage?




Ya know, you might be lucky there mate cos ive heard the little piece of paper that determines that the phone has been submerged in water is inside at the top near the headphone port.

@MWEB Go on. I know you want to!

Posted by NoKia
lol ...go on then


i cant even get it changed under warranty unless something stops wroking, cus right now it seems fine apart from the 'weaker signal' that may or not be all in my head

Posted by RyaN
You may encounter charging problems, so that might be a saving grace! The dock port is a sensitive little bugger

Fingers crossed O2 will let peeps upgrade to the new iPhone when it's released, like the 2G-3G transition. I have a sneaky feeling they wont be so accommodating this time round though

Posted by NoKia
i hope so!


i dont think they will let us upgrade again, or they might try to tie us into ridiculuos 2 year deals

Posted by RyaN
Hm now you say that, O2 did announce/release last week the 24 month iPhone contracts, meaning you could get the current 3G for free on a £34pm contract. So similar contract deals will probably be put in to place for the new one.

It is in their interests for them to keep their iPhone user base though - it makes up a massive amount of web browsing market share, and to let people upgrade again ensures they stay and resigning a 24 month contract is a win win situation for them.

Afterall, this year there's gonna be hotter competition for the iPhone

Posted by NoKia
yeah i think the target market for the new iphone are all phone users anyway so they will have to let us upgrade or they wont sell much:D
but i dont think i want to be tied down for 2 years

Posted by Boinng

On 2009-03-25 17:34:11, RyaN wrote:
You should've turned it off straight away, once the water is inside and the electric current is still running thats when the problems occur. You are damn lucky it's still working!


Very true, and it shows up another little weakness in the design - ordinarily the non-removeable battery doesn't bother me, I can see why they did it, but if you drop a phone (or other gadget) in water the first and best thing to do is whip the back off and yank the battery out. Not much chance of that with the iPhone. Even if you turn the phone off, the battery could still be shorting out in there.

Posted by RyaN
Right my iPhone has developed a crack in the plastic by the headphone port, quite a sizeable one roughly 1cm. I can't remember who it was that found cracks on theirs a little while ago, but would I have grounds to have this replaced at the O2 shop? Btw I've been using it in a case since day 1

Posted by NoKia
from what i have read you will have better joy going to an apple store as opposed to o2 or CPW, and they do replace for cracked cases its apparently a known problem

Posted by RyaN

On 2009-03-27 12:45:04, NoKia wrote:
from what i have read you will have better joy going to an apple store as opposed to o2 or CPW, and they do replace for cracked cases its apparently a known problem


Yeah thats what i'm hearing that Apple tend to deal with it in a more efficient manner! Perhaps maybe kicking off and refusing to leave the shop until i have a brand new iPhone in my hands might work? Failing that, perhaps crying? Stamping my feet?

Trouble is, nearest Apple Store is in Bluewater which is a bit of a drive (for my g/f, i dont drive ) and thats not gonna happen this weekend.

Some guy i just spoke to said that he had the same problem, took it in to CPW and they sent it away for repair and it took 3 weeks - and in the end they just gave him a new one anyway Like they'd be able to palm you off with a repaired cracked iPhone They also gave him some naff Nokia loaner phone in the interim... pfff... They're gonna love me in the O2 shop tomorrow



Posted by Boinng
O2 staff are bound to just follow the same old rigmarole they've been trained in and make the whole thing as unpleasant and inconvenient as they possibly can. I'd be much more tempted to just put up with it for now, pop it into the Apple store when you can, and with a bit of luck they'll just swap it over the counter for you while you wait. They've got the stock and the returns system right there, and generally have a much more enlightened approach to problems like this.

Posted by RyaN
Yeah cheers @Boinng. You're right. Thing is, now i know it's there, it's playing on my mind. That...and the prospect of getting a shiny new one!

Certainly dont want to be messed around by O2, but I may just duck in there tomorrow and see what they say.

Posted by masseur
iPhone users to get Skype service (BBC article)

Skype has confirmed that iPhone users will be now be able to use its internet telephony service.

The firm's native voice over internet protocol (VoIP) application - Skype for iPhone - will be available for download from Apples iTune store on Tuesday.

Posted by smilerthe cheshirecat
Nice.. thanks for the heads up Masseur

Posted by ares
yep, Skype its out...pretty cool app, but i don´t know how to justify using it instead of nimbuzz that does all the skype stuff plus, msn, gtalk, etc

maybe when there´s push notifications it will be more usefull, has a voice only app

Posted by SloopJohnB
Is the call quality on skype better than on fring or nimbuzz?

Posted by NoKia
saw that MyRail wasnt working this morning so i read up on the web and see that National Rail refused to renew their license to retrieve train data just so that they can release their own version and charge us £5 for it!!!!!
thieving fools!

Posted by masseur
yeah, I saw that this morning too, but I already bought the national rail one a few days ago and was using both

what I would really like is a merge of functionality between the two but I guess we're stuck with just the one now

Posted by NoKia

On 2009-04-01 18:21:52, masseur wrote:
yeah, I saw that this morning too, but I already bought the national rail one a few days ago and was using both

what I would really like is a merge of functionality between the two but I guess we're stuck with just the one now



there should be laws against that

i guess i will have to buy it then, it was once of my most usefull apps

Posted by ares

On 2009-04-01 00:13:21, SloopJohnB wrote:
Is the call quality on skype better than on fring or nimbuzz?



Call quality: skype>nimbuzz>fring


Its normal that skype has the best quality, because data goes directly through their servers

Posted by Boinng

On 2009-04-01 18:19:58, NoKia wrote:
saw that MyRail wasnt working this morning so i read up on the web and see that National Rail refused to renew their license to retrieve train data just so that they can release their own version and charge us £5 for it!!!!!
thieving fools!


It's a shame, but in some ways it's a bit of a blessed release, it's such a useful app I was happy (ish) to pay somebody for it as long as it got continuing support and I knew I could rely on it (ever since they withdrew MyRail from the appstore I've just been waiting for it to stop working just at the wrong moment!)

£5 is steep, but if it means permanent support from National Rail themselves, I can live with it.

Posted by bavlondon2
Anyone tried picturesafe or videosafe? Both great apps for keeping pics and vids under wraps. ONly thing is I bought both thinking they only support pics and vids respectivley as suggested in their name. Then I find out videosafe does pictures and videos.

Posted by masseur
I've got a new favourite app! its called flight control and its very addictive!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qti2ffpu2k

49 is my best score so far... anyone else playing this?



Posted by MWEB
Whats the best selling iphone app btw?


Posted by fatreg
byki if google is to be believed...

Posted by ares
Had Iphone 3.0 beta 2 installed for a few days...its very stable already, and the new features are great. Tested bluetooth stereo, and its working ok

However some apps i like had compability problems, like ComicZeal, and not all jailbreak stuff works yet...so i downgraded to 2.2.1 again

If beta 3 brings new stuff, might do it again lol...so geek...

Posted by whentheleveebreaks
Are you a dev or did you install it by other means? Have been tempted to try out the new beta

Posted by voda_jon
and am back in the iphoe club... got the white 16gb one from O2...

I've jailbroke it an installed a few themes etc that i loved on ma 2g iphone and some great apps like tweetie, metal gear solid, rolando, ocarina and finally bejewelled...

anyone have any other recommendations for apps i must have etc.

Posted by RyaN
hmm a white one eh? Show off!

If you're jailbroken, you should definitely go in for these apps off Cydia; Cycorder, SwirlyMMS (works for me to send, but not receive), SBSettings, Intelliscreen. For nice little touches also recommend downloading Reflective Dock, LiveClock and Weather Icon... live weather on your status bar is nice

Theres lots more buts that all i can think off the top of my head!

Posted by voda_jon
@ryan... hehe. yeh i was gonna put mms on but i dont send them so wont bother... have installed a load of games and music anyway and am jus happy to be back on the iphone for now... the g1 is great and in some areas much better than the iphone but the iphone just works and feels great!

Posted by Mad_Bob
I use just MMS, even with a JB phone, I never send any, but its useful to be able to recieve them.

A couple more useful bits are...

- 5 icon dock,
- 5 Row springboard,
- Bite SMS (Supports smilies to and from other phones, message forwarding, and sending contacts)
- Icy (Cydia replacement, faster)
- dTunes
- iTV (Watch Family Guy, Simpsons, Southpark etc from 1 app)
- PDA Net (Connect your Laptop/PC to the net via your phone)
- FontSwap (Change your phones fonts on the fly)
- MxTube (Download youtube vids to your phone)
- Open SSH
- xGPS
[ This Message was edited by: Mad_Bob on 2009-04-12 11:03 ]


Posted by voda_jon
@mad.... thanks i have the first 3 and am gonna see how things go.

am just happy to be back with the iphone as i had forgotten just how great they are to use and how great they look in my hand!

Posted by lemmy31
Just a quickie guys, in case anybody can help me. I have just restored my IPhone 3g to 2.21 software via itunes on my macbook. I went for a shower and left the operation running. I have just come down to find my iphone stuck at the apple logo and i cant get it to do anything, no restart, no dfu mode possible. Has anyone else experienced this and if so any advice greatly appreciated.


Regards Craig

Posted by RyaN
@lemmy Sorry to hear that dude! Did you manage to sort it?

Posted by Boinng

On 2009-03-27 15:10:09, RyaN wrote:
Yeah cheers @Boinng. You're right. Thing is, now i know it's there, it's playing on my mind. That...and the prospect of getting a shiny new one!

Certainly dont want to be messed around by O2, but I may just duck in there tomorrow and see what they say.



Ryan, did you ever get this sorted? I'm starting to get a bit paranoid about the cracking problem, holding my phone up to the light on a daily basis just in case I see anything... would love to hear if O2 or Apple saw you right...

Posted by RyaN
haha no mate, not as yet! Dont wanna be messing around with O2 directly, not after someone on twitter told me he had exactly the same issue, O2 sent it for 'repair' and he suffered for 3 weeks with a Nokia 1 series loaner lol

Just gonna wait til I can get to Bluewater and take it in to the Apple store, no messing then. Hopefully will be in the next couple of weeks

Posted by voda_jon
@ryan... thats why am happy i live 5 mins from liverpool one.... which has an apple shop. lol

an apple stores have started doin O2 upgrades in store now lol. u get a choice of iphone 8gb or iphone 16gb... lol.

J.

Posted by RyaN
Yeah it's a bugger i dont live close to one, i have an authorised Apple dealership about 15miles from me, they actually took an iPod Touch in from me a while ago, attempted to fix it and then just replaced it. Wonder if they would do a replacement iPhone for me? Probably not i'd imagine!

Posted by Boinng
@ryan, Ah well, keep us posted.. there's definitely a few very small (1mm or less) cracks around my headphone port, but they're only visible in bright light and don't seem to have quite broken the surface yet. Maybe they'll stay that way..

On another tack, really pleased to find a big update to the Spreadsheet app today. This is Softalk's Spreadsheet - http://www.softalkltd.com/products/spreadsheet/ - which was the first one to hit the appstore back when the 3G was new. It started out a bit poor but has gradually improved. Until recently it's worked well but only with XML sheets, but since the increased competition from Quickoffice arrived they've obviously been playing catchup, and today's v2.0 release now supports .XLS format natively, and adds a ton of other improvements to make it pretty feature complete.

As someone who bought the app back when it was still pretty limited (but the best of a limited bunch) it's really nice to still be getting really significant free updates even now. That's one of the best things about the Appstore and the iPhone as an app platform, I think.

Posted by voda_jon
yeh i love the fact u get the updates for what looks like the lifetime of the app... nice one apple and app devs!

gotta say i downloaded wunder radio and its amazin! u can even listen to police, fire and ambulance radios from the USA on it! and all whilst being in a non 3g area lol.

BBC merseyside also works in edge areas as well woo!

J.

Posted by RyaN
Yeah cheers @Boinng i certainly will keep you updated on the situ. And definitely agree about the app updates, nice to know that you instantly get updates when new features get added. Even nicer when you snap up a certain app for free, which turns in to a paid app, and then you continue to receive the new features for free

@voda, yeah dude, Wunder Radio is the be-all and end-all of radio apps. Dont think i've ever come across a more comprehensive radio app! So good. Especially great, as you say that you can even receive when out of a 3G area...



Posted by RyaN
Been quiet here recently....

So what's anyone installed recently that's any good?

I'm not really a big fan of gaming on the device, but installed StickWars recently and had a bit of fun with that. Think it's 59p in the app store.

Any other good little addictive games worth the download?

As far as modding goes, currently loving the LockInfo stuff instead of using Intelliscreen on my lockscreen. Looks

Posted by Boinng
I think everyone's just waiting with baited breath for the coming of 3.0, and a glimpse of the new hardware

The best thing I've added to mine lately is quite boring - a dictionary! The Concise English Dictionary by Jdictionary Mobile is 59p in the store at the moment and really good value, the vocab's really big and the interface is great too.

Apart from that I've been playing Flight Control (as mentioned by Masseur on the last page) quite a bit, only got up to 63 as my high score... that was 59p too.

Generally loving it though. Looking forward to 3.0 and I know I'm going to end up hankering over whatever new video-packing model they announce at the same time, but I'm nearly halfway through my contract now..

Posted by RyaN
Hm cool, might have to have a look at flight control. Sounds like a patience game tho - which i'm no good at!

You're right though, think most are waiting for 3.0... some are even playing with 3.0 now. Contemplated it myself for a while as you can install it with a workaround without needing your UDID added to a dev acc. Just couldnt do without WinterBoard and customisation... it's still a big thing for me

I'm sincerely hoping that O2 will allow 3G users to sign a new contract and upgrade to the new model, like they did with the 2G-3G transition. Especially as talk of O2 losing exclusivity on the iPhone... if so they'll be even more likely to wanna keep iPhone users for as long as poss.

Posted by masseur

On 2009-05-06 15:40:17, Boinng wrote:
...
Apart from that I've been playing Flight Control (as mentioned by Masseur on the last page) quite a bit, only got up to 63 as my high score... that was 59p too.
...


its addictive! I'm up to 194 now!


Posted by Boinng
That's true, if there's actually going to be fair competition for iPhone custom then they may well offer us existing customers a good deal. I won't hold my breath though - to be fair, getting the new software will be quite a good upgrade in itself, and with June being slap bang in the middle of my 18 months I'm quite happy with that..

I suppose patience plays a part in Flight Control, it does get pretty hectic though!

EDIT: Very impressive Masseur!! I'm not surprised you took a screen shot!
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-05-06 14:59 ]


Posted by masseur
I'm probably going to swap my iphone in due to the dust that has now accumulated but I'm worried about what I will get in return

has anyone done a swap and have some feedback on that?

also, please remind me how I un-jailbreak the iphone before I take it back

Posted by Boinng
Where has the dust accumulated, under the screen? Can't really help on the jailbreak, I always assumed it was just a matter of letting itunes do some kind of restore of factory settings or FW update though.


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