Posted by masseur
yeah, I had the same thought reading that too...
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
On 2008-06-10 10:24:30, mswallis wrote:
On 2008-06-10 10:20:52, whentheleveebreaks wrote:
Cant decide on the black or white one.!
The white one is limited edition (or so I read somewhere on the Apple site) and only available in 16 GB, I like being in a minority so I'll be getting a white one, and it won't show the fingerprints as bad as the black one.
By the way what tariff are you on to get the 16GB one for £59 on upgrade?
£45 tarriff
Though just had a read through am im not sure if you can get the 16gb one. But thats the cost of it on the o2 for new customers.
Yeah i would like to get the white one as well if we can.
Posted by mswallis
If that's the cost to new customers then I'm quite certain it will be the same when you upgrade. As if you are a new customer you get the 8GB for free on the £45 and £75 a month tariffs, and if you are an existing customer on those tariffs you also get it free. So I would think it would be the same rule throughout.
Posted by haynesycop
I'm hoping the 16GB will be available on upgrade i'd happily pay extra as i'm only on the £35 tariff, 8GB just isn't enough.
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-06-10 10:25:14, DeLa wrote:
I was planning to get a G900 (wifi, screen, and it is a SE) but would I really have to pay €340 for the G900 while the new iPhone will be only €199? And has to be sim-free in my country.
Help! I do not want to leave SE, but this is really an offer you can't refuse.
Well the G900 does have many more features. Only con is the smaller screen. Sure, and maybe all those fancy transitions the iPhone has (which doesn't mean the the G900 doesn't have a lot of anmations).
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
Agreed, though i will happily have the 8gb one for free
Posted by msmmsm
iphone finally on payg, hope nothing changes between now and July11 in that respect, along with itunes UK now doing movie downloads and rentals, this combination is perfect
Posted by mswallis
I can see a lot of people buying these on PAYG, as long as the price is right.
Posted by mib1800
On 2008-06-10 09:58:26, mswallis wrote:
@mib1800
Yeah you're right e-mail and mms are different, with e-mail you can send and receive, full resolution photo's, mp3's, files, documents etc.
I dont use MMS to share photo. The more useful is for audio message which is getting very popular in some countries. Sometimes it is much more convenient say a message instead of typing. And your receipient gets immediate notification unlike email. In newer Nokia phones they have created a special option for "Audio Message".
Compared to MMS, email is equivalent of "snail" mail. And cost of MMS is as cheap as a SMS in some countries. So it is easy to dismiss something when you have no idea how powerful that thing can be.
Yes, I use MMS very often nowadays even without me knowing it as it is so convenient to sent a audio message. People who dismiss MMS outright as not useful just dont know what they are missing out on.
Posted by nz turtle
no fm radio ! i listen to the radio mostly
(probably cos the p1i has such a bad music player)
I havnt read anywhere that theres no A2DP ? sony makes an
adaptor anyway
i would hate to think what vodafone new zealand are gonna
charge for data its $59/mth 1gb now for use on a phone
Posted by carkitter
On 2008-06-09 21:33:19, Dogmann wrote:
Hi all
Well OK it's confirmed that it has HSDPA but something doesn't make sense as the claim of 2.8 faster then EDGE is a severely cut down HSDPA speeds.
Please some one correct me if I'm wrong but isn't EDGE slower than 3G and 3G is 384kbps and i believe EDGE is 280kbps odd well 2.8x faster then 280kbps is well bellow even 1mbps. Even basic HSDPA is up to 3.6mbps and a lot devices are now coming equipped to support up to 7.2mbps as the networks are rolling out support for this.
So what is happening with the 3G iPhones HSDPA support then? as i for one am confused.
Marc
I don't get why it's so confusing.
HSDPA is often quoted at 3.6Mbps but in reality you get 800-1400 kbps. 280 kbps x 2.4 is pretty close to that.
By the way, Telstra Australia claim they'll have the worlds fastest iPhone by Xmas when they ramp up thier network to 40+ Mbps. That may only mean reaching the 3.6Mbps peak, if that is the peak speed. I'm getting 1180kbps ATM, the full 3600 would be great!
Posted by stephen_doc
I have had an O2 contract for about 13 or 14 months. Didn't fancy the first iPhone because of price but love this. Want to upgrade but anyone know if I can in July. I enquired about this with the last iPhone and they said I could upgrade and break out of my contract as long as I had started a contract before last september. From the o2 website it just says they will give me a call when I can upgrade. Is this July or October or whenever my contract is up
Posted by jcwhite_uk
Nice to see Apple are making the iPhone what it should have been in the first place. Would consider it if they had improved the camera, which I use on my phones quite abit. Price is very tempting from O2 (free on a £45 tariff).
Posted by masseur
I've just been reading the iPhone blog and it seems you no longer get the dock in the box.
Do any people use that? mine is still sitting pretty in the box, as is the a/c charger as I always charge via USB
apparantly the photos are now better, albeit still 2megapixel, according to some people who had hands-on
Posted by haynesycop
I use mine all the time, think it is tidier in the dock on my desk. I just hope o2 don't run out of stock as i'll be out of the country when it is released.
Posted by masseur
hands-on video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzoZGNsJ71w
Posted by haynesycop
Posted by WhiteEye
Glad to hear that my country isn't listed.
Posted by dayz
On 2008-06-10 13:45:00, WhiteEye wrote:
Glad to hear that my country isn't listed.
lol
Posted by Dogmann
@Carkitter
Well i get between 1900 and 2,200kbps here in the UK on Voda and the iPhone is about half the speed i am used to. But more worrying is the fact that 02 don't have great data support and your lucky to get 384kbps currently. Hopefully they are implementing HSDPA fast so that there iPhone users can take advantage of the better speeds. Anyway it's not something i need to worry about as the iPhone is just not a device for me.
Marc
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Posted by p900 lover
I got the W960 from o2 in March/April on an 18 month contract on the £45 tariff and im just wondering if i call them up will they just let me transfer the contract over if i offer to pay for the iphone?
Posted by carkitter
On 2008-06-10 14:26:29, Dogmann wrote:
@Carkitter
Well i get between 1900 and 2,200kbps here in the UK on Voda and the iPhone is about half the speed i am used to...
Well you obviously get the 7.2Mbps version of HSDPA then, VodaNZ may have that here before Xmas
If AT&T didn't have 3G last year then maybe 800 is the best average speed they've got ATM? I've noticed my HSDPA speed increase by 200kbps in the last 3 months 
On 2008-06-10 14:26:29, Dogmann wrote:
But more worrying is the fact that 02 don't have great data support and your lucky to get 384kbps currently. Hopefully they are implementing HSDPA fast so that there iPhone users can take advantage of the better speeds.
I agree, they have to sort that out. Surely the embarressment of being two generations behind in data would be enough? Maybe not.
On 2008-06-10 14:26:29, Dogmann wrote:
Anyway it's not something i need to worry about as the iPhone is just not a device for me.
Marc
Or me. Roll on the W980 release!
***starts drooling in excitement***
Posted by mswallis
Doesn't O2 already have HSDPA, my sisters K850, on O2, has a 'H' symbol at the top, does this not mean its HSDPA?
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Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I think they were saying that O2's current HSDPA is crap and hopefully they're improving it...
Posted by masseur
I found o2's HSDPA to be mostly fine, although not as extensive coverage as t-mobile for the routes I take
There is an issue where low tariff users were being capped at 128kbps for 3g but it took just a simple phone call to have this restriction lifted
Posted by carkitter
Patchy data coverage is the same as no data coverage in my book. If it doesn't work everywhere you want it to all the time its a useless waste of time.
Several times I've tried to send video calls on Aucklands North Shore and found that I'm not in a 3G zone so it fails completely. This prevents me from making regular use of video calling which I really like and would use everytime I make a call if I could.
Fortunately I get great HSDPA speed at home.
Faster than some landline connections nearby are capable of
Posted by intelegent115
http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paygo
Is that a good news for those who wont get their new iPhone in their country or what?
Posted by masseur
you can check o2's HSDPA coverage Here
Posted by Residentevil
The good thing about the iphone is, it is available within 2 mo. after it is announced. Good job.
Posted by themarques
The new 3G device will be activated in store in both AT&T and Apple stores. Customers must accept AT&T and Apple Ts & Cs, sign a 2-year agreement, and select the data plan for the iPhone 3G before leaving the store. The current iTunes activation process will no longer be required for iPhone 3Gs, however a short tether process to unbrick the 3G device will be performed in all AT&T stores (tether cords will be provided). Apple stores will also perform this tether process, however in the event that a customer's device is not tethered in the Apple store, their device will be inoperable until they get home and tether through iTunes. Prepaid and Pick Your Plan will not be allowed on the 3G device.
Posted by masseur
Fortunately for UK, o2 will be doing pay and go but they have yet to unveil how it will work or how much it will cost
At first glance, this would seem to be the best comparison to the old way of doing things since you presumably pay full price for the iphone and a little extra for initial pre pay credit, take it home and do the ziphone (or whatever is available for V2)
Posted by haynesycop
I'm a little confused on a £35 tariff, which i'm on already to upgrade to the 8GB iPhone 3G is £99, sounds good, but the 16GB is £159, still not to bad. However i could pay $300 in America for a 16GB. So am i right in thinking that the $199 price fixed price only applies to the 8GB model?
Posted by mswallis
$300 is £150, so that is only a difference of £9
Posted by haynesycop
I know, i was just thinking out loud, ignore me!
I wonder if i upgraded to the £45 tariff i could get the 16GB a little cheaper, just wondering what to do, you don't get anymore txt for the extra £10 and i never use the minutes much, or just pay the £159 and add a bolt on.
Decisions, decisions!
Posted by masseur
well, you've got a month to make up your mind... (and I'll try to refrain from any "woman can't make up their mind" type comments
)
Posted by mswallis
On 2008-06-10 16:46:40, haynesycop wrote:
I know, i was just thinking out loud, ignore me!
I wonder if i upgraded to the £45 tariff i could get the 16GB a little cheaper, just wondering what to do, you don't get anymore txt for the extra £10 and i never use the minutes much, or just pay the £159 and add a bolt on.
Decisions, decisions!
If you go to the £45 tariff, you will save £100 on the price, however that will be an extra £180 over the 18 months for something you will not use, therefore actually costing you £80 more, if you follow.
[ This Message was edited by: mswallis on 2008-06-10 15:55 ]
Posted by msmmsm
O2 confirms pricing
http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?newsid=21603
Posted by mswallis
The prices have been on the o2 site since late last night.
Posted by haynesycop
Yeah, that's the thing i know it'll have to be 16GB without a doubt, but i hardly use the minutes and tend to go over on texts so i'm better off staying on £35 with the £7.50 bolt on i think. The price is pretty decent.
One more thing, you have to sign up for another 18 months, so is that 18 months from 11th July or 18 months at the end of your current contract which for me is July 2009?
Posted by mswallis
18 months from July 11th.
Posted by haynesycop
That's grand thanks, 16GB it is then, yay! Think i'll go for a white one, happy days!
Posted by BobaFett
http://www.slashphone.com/app[....]obileme-internet-service-09633
Posted by Bonovox
I just been reading GSM Arena and never realised that with the 3G iphone things are changing. You can get it for free and taking one home to connect via itunes will no longer happen. The networks are now going to subsidise the phones and can offer them free thus connecting in store to the network. This will cut down on the jail breaking so they say.
Posted by Bonovox
Perhaps then CPW will sell these sim free eventually.
Posted by Dogmann
@Bonovox
I noticed that quite a while ago and am pretty sure many of the new features won't work unless you are on an properly activated tariff. So i can't see how you can buy one in the first place and even if you do mange it and jailbreak it i doubt the functions you can use will make it worthwhile. I also seriously doubt CPW will have them Sim Free.
It looks like Apple and the Networks have learnt from their experience and have found a solution to stop it and with the price drops new software and app store maybe it isn't so necessary now either.
Marc
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Posted by Bonovox
Perhaps one day it will be on pay as you go then. Its got to one day surely its not really fair on customers who want one and who cant get a contract like me. I have no debts any longer but have poor credit rating and in the past O2 was one of my bad debts written off. Oh dear. So cant get contract with them.
Posted by mswallis
Have you not been following this thread? It is going to be on pay as you go. http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone
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Posted by bavlondon2
The best phone ever just got better. I look at Shiho and then look at this and although a year on its mostly the same iphone it still wipes the floor with everything else.
Posted by themarques
I think alot of people are gonna be disappointed with battery life on this baby. Take the heartbeat intervals to mobileme + 3G + screen real estate= charging twice a day.
One reason for moving to Blackberry was the heartbeat interval of exchange, it is so unreliable. It was so much worse on SE phones that if it didnt sync to the exchange after x times it would disable itself, leaving you thinking you havent received any emails.
I am not bashing the phone at all, but I have come along way from form to function, and I am very pleased with the blackberry OS. I look forward to the release of the BOLD which means I can use it in Japan.
Posted by masseur
I was thinking about that myself last night
Apparantly the standby times and call times are increased for this model suggesting they have either reduced the component drain or increased the battery capacity from 1400mAh / 3.7volt.
Unfortunately I couldn't find anywhere that confirms the new battery size yet and we may have to wait for a teardown before we know for sure