Posted by Mad_Wedgie
Well, judging from your photo it's kinda over-sharpened in my opinion. Yet, its size is 910KB so basically compression can be lowered or completely disabled.
[ This Message was edited by: Mad_Wedgie on 2008-07-25 08:01 ]
Posted by deadman4168
yeah its pretty over sharped...and one question how did u got the DATE in red colour also the font seems different...
Posted by Raiderski
jhayms
turbo? I think so, it's 1000 horsepower engine
sharpness not always have max value. all scenes (except document where is max!) have lower (not much) value than max. however there's one important thing - sharpness from document scene (remember: max value) is also used when macro mode is enabled. this means that if you have macro mode enabled then your pictures will always have max sharpness no matter of scene (forced max sharpness). macro on/off - simple choice between max sharpness and default sharpness for selected scene
burner8
yep, 1/8s is too much. 1/40s will be better choice
Arfi-Gorgona
crashes aren't driver dependent. it must be task management (radio, camera) issue, so it's firmware
hfmls & Mad_Wedgie
no, it's not possible to use 100%. of course you can always use higher value than 91% but you should remember about compression system:
1. rule #1: max jpeg file size
2. rule #2: jpeg quality
3. rule #3: both rules restrict each other
SE phones have variable compression, this means that final quality is calculated from 3 above rules. that's why your pictures don't have constant quality. variable quality is the result of fulfilled rules. ok, simple examples what can happen with 91% quality and 900kb buffer:
1. jpeg can be created with 91% and in ~900kb file
2. 91% is too much for ~900kb, quality will be decreased
3. 91% is good but file size will be much smaller than ~900kb, quality will be increased
results can be various. 800kb file with 75%-97% quality is nothing strange. now look at Goldmen's picture. he wrote that used driver had declared 100% quality, what happened in compression system? something like this:
- can I compress picture at 100% quality in ~900kb?
- no, increase compression and try again
- can I compress picture at 98% quality in ~900kb?
- no, increase compression and try again
- can I compress picture at 93% quality in ~900kb?
- no, increase compression and try again
- can I compress picture at 85% quality in ~900kb?
- no, increase compression and try again
- can I compress picture at 75% quality in ~900kb?
- yes
final result is 75% quality (according to EXIF). good conclusion...
of course we can force compression system to use very high quality but this will be useless. variable compression is really smart thing, no matter of what you won't force it to do impossibe things
Posted by Goldmen
On 2008-07-25 09:48:16, deadman4168 wrote:
yeah its pretty over sharped...and one question how did u got the DATE in red colour also the font seems different...
When I flash MAIN only...to R1JG001 I get green,in the next versions colour is a red.
Font you can find here:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=163795#post2240816
Posted by Goldmen
Raiderski
Thank you for explanation!
But I'm just curious...when flash is used,why "file size/quality" ratio seems different (according to EXIF) with same compression settings?
R1KG001_Approx quality factor ~94% at 903kb
R1CB001_Approx quality factor ~92% at 906kb
R1KG001_Approx quality factor ~93% at 903kb
[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-07-25 12:11 ]
Posted by hfmls
any new updates to come? anything new? (all is ok for me) just asking.
Posted by deadman4168
6.3.3 macro
SEM with flash.......complete dark....shutter 1/2s ISO-100
EM ..complete dark no flash......ISO-100.... shutter 2s
Posted by hfmls
how did u use EM with iso100 ?
Posted by hfmls
new OSD images please?
Posted by deadman4168
ISO was auto..i just read it from the EXIF
Posted by jokamaciek
hfmls EM force ISO100
Posted by Goldmen
Raiderski
Just idea...
Is it possible to implement manual settings for compression...?
Posted by Jundi
I have downloaded raider k800 camdriver v633. After extract the file, there’s some files contained camdriver0.dat, and one folder “for pacth”. Now, can I copy the folder into the same area with camdriver0.dat? or I don’t need copy this folder?
if there's must be copy, where?
ifs/setting/camera?
so there's must be 2 files, camdriver0.dat n camdriver1.dat and also one folder for pacth too?
please tell me, i'm newbie
n sorry for my english.
Posted by jokamaciek
Jundi on which world do U live ?
Camdriver0 is for main camera and camdriver1 is for 3G camera. U need to copy only camdriver0 to ifs/settings/camera. Graphics in folder "for patch" are to make yourself a graphic patch to let U use the driver easily
Posted by vudu70
Raider mode:
1. jpeg can be created with 91% and in ~900kb file
2. 91% is too much for ~900kb, quality will be decreased
3. 91% is good but file size will be much smaller than ~900kb, quality will be increased (--how far?)
Goldmen mode:
- can I compress picture at 100% quality in ~900kb?
- no, increase compression and try again
- can I compress picture at 98% quality in ~900kb?
- no, increase compression and try again
- can I compress picture at 93% quality in ~900kb?
- no, increase compression and try again
- can I compress picture at 85% quality in ~900kb?
- no, increase compression and try again
- can I compress picture at 75% quality in ~900kb?
- yes
Raiderski:
OK,i see.
But which do the better quality image upshot?
(sorry for my poor english)
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[ This Message was edited by: vudu70 on 2008-07-26 00:14 ]
Posted by Jundi
Can some1 help me for tell the tutorial how to using this camdriver manual setting?
because after changed my camdriver with this one, i didn't know what the different.
so, please tell me how to using manual setting for this camdriver please
i'm new member in this forum
Posted by Jundi
Can some1 help me for tell the tutorial how to using this camdriver manual setting?
because after changed my camdriver with this one, i didn't know what the different.
so, please tell me how to using manual setting for this camdriver please
using notepad?
if there's yes, can you upload your edited camdriver for this version?
i want to compare your edited with original which i download, so i can more understand how to using manual setting for this camdriver. thank you b4
"i'm new member in this forum", so i still stupid for everything about modified, hi...hi...
Posted by Goldmen
Jundi
Read carefully first post of Raiderski in this thread - there is written!
Also the whole thread is written to allow everyone to share user experience...
Much more details you will find in drivers archive - readme,changelog,customization...
Good luck!
Posted by Jundi
Thank you very much....
But, can i get the modified this camdriver from anyone? i will be more understand if i can compare the modiffied camdriver from you with the original from raiderski. i need the example for my study, pleasee...
or can you post it?
Posted by Raiderski
hfmls
any new updates to come?
I don't know, I'm playing with some small things but nothing important
Goldmen & vudu70
when flash is used,why "file size/quality" ratio seems different (according to EXIF) with same compression settings?
explanation can be simple, different data = different compression
Is it possible to implement manual settings for compression...?
yes, it's possible but why you want to do this?
But which do the better quality image upshot?
scenario from Goldmen is nothing more than just scenario from point #2
Posted by Goldmen
Raiderski
About manual setting for compression...
I will simply curious to try...nothing more...
Posted by Raiderski
ah ok
Posted by Jundi
raider, can u give me the tutorial for manual setting your camdriver please.
Posted by K810ii
@raiderski
same as jundi, i want to know because i new too
E_MODE= $s1 ff;
MSIP_ALLOW= $s0 00;
MFP_ZM= 10;
ZM_TYPE= $s0 ff;
PHOTO_ZM= $s5 10;
VIDEO_ZM= $s5 10;
JQ_NORMAL= $s5 50;
JQ_FINE= $s5 5b;
JQ_BESTP= 59;
VFR_NORMAL= 30;
VFR_NIGHT= 14;
BRIGHTNESS= 00;
SHARPNESS= $s5 06;
CONTRAST= $s5 00;
SATURATION= $s5 03;
EXPOSURE= $s5 00;
SHARPNESS_2= $s5 08;
CONTRAST_2= $s5 02;
SATURATION_2= $s5 00;
EXPOSURE_2= $s5 02;
SHARPNESS_3= $s5 06;
CONTRAST_3= $s5 00;
SATURATION_3= $s5 01;
EXPOSURE_3= $s5 01;
XENON_ISO= $s6 07;
XENON_ISO_MACRO= $s6 01;
XENON_ISO_MANUAL= $s6 04;
XENON_SATURATION= 03;
the number before code ";" , the number must be edited for take the best result?
Posted by unforgiven_sh
and what about increasing the buffer
for ex. from 900 to 1024 or even more
would this affect the pic quality?
Posted by milan91
raiderski reply on that question XYZ times...
Posted by unforgiven_sh
On 2008-07-26 18:14:40, milan91 wrote:
raiderski reply on that question XYZ times...
raiderski reply on that question XYZ times...
so i missed it, whats the big deal???
you could write it instead of telling me that theres an answer to that question somewhere in the last 60 pages of this tread
Posted by milan91
Maybe to start searching vefore post some question
That's only 60 pages
Posted by kmzoltan
unforgiven_sh
anything beyon 906 crashes the camera in certain situations.i ve talked this problem with raiderski but he didnt accepted to search in the firmware for the 906k limitation buffer.I also think that 1.3-1.5 mb pictures would look nicer.
Raiderski
How comes that k850 can produce images with iso 64?
[ This Message was edited by: kmzoltan on 2008-07-26 20:40 ]
Posted by milan91
lol
wtf?!? Please read again our posts then edit your
btw. how he can remove limit with camdriver?? He only know how to make camdriver, not to edit MAIN and limits...
Send that question to some great russian patcher...
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[ This Message was edited by: milan91 on 2008-07-26 20:38 ]
Posted by kmzoltan
[quote]
On 2008-07-26 21:36:17, milan91 wrote:
lol
wtf?!? Please read again our posts then edit your
btw. how he can remove limit with camdriver?? He only know how to make camdriver, not to edit MAIN and limits...
Send that question to some great russian patcher...
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i never said that he can remove limit with camdriver.What russian site do you know where are ,,great russian patchers,,?
Posted by milan91
I don't want to advertise sites
But find on google mobilefree
Posted by kmzoltan
On 2008-07-26 21:52:11, milan91 wrote:
I don't want to advertise sites
But find on google mobilefree
thanks
Posted by a_amirfarzam
6.3.3 is realy perfect :
(phone : K800i with K810i R8BA024 fw)
thanks raider .
Posted by milan91
Pls write settings
Posted by rickymonkey
who can teach me how to set the sharapness function in EV position
when i use auto scenes the picture is really blear....
but when i use Document mode the picture look like over exposure
look like that
auto mode it's not sharp...
document mode sharp but over exposure
Posted by milan91
Use auto+manual focus
Posted by kmzoltan
milan91
i we posted my quest for a limit restriction remover patch on mobilefree.Let s hope that den_po or IronMaster will reply.Thanks again for the site.
Posted by hfmls
that would be awsome
Posted by hfmls
i once with this camdriver for accident took a picture with 1.5mb. i thought that was a bug
don't know how da hell that happened.
Posted by norberto877
a_amirfarzam, what settings did you use for the pictures??do you change the sharpness?? btw awesome pictures!
Posted by milan91
On 2008-07-27 13:46:16, kmzoltan wrote:
milan91
i we posted my quest for a limit restriction remover patch on mobilefree.Let s hope that den_po or IronMaster will reply.Thanks again for the site.
Great
Posted by hfmls
any luck ?
Posted by kmzoltan
Nothing yet
[ This Message was edited by: kmzoltan on 2008-07-28 19:41 ]
Posted by recl
has anyone figured out how to get decent pics with flash from a distance of..let's say..1.5 m? or am I asking too much from the xenon?
Posted by Mad_Wedgie
I would say ISO100 + Flash AUTO. Less noisy in my opinion...
Posted by hfmls
yeah, it is.
how do i force EM to iso100 ?
Posted by a_amirfarzam
On 2008-07-27 15:19:02, norberto877 wrote:
a_amirfarzam, what settings did you use for the pictures??do you change the sharpness?? btw awesome pictures!
Its only auto mode
.
Posted by hfmls
automode? damn k800 takes really good pictures with nice light.
6.3.3 right ?
i almost all the pictures set all auto, only set iso100 (at good light pictures)
(only change i make) should i let the camdriver decide ?
i wich there was a EM mode to macro and other to good light pictures.
that would be the perfect driver. lol[ This Message was edited by: hfmls on 2008-07-27 21:10 ]
Posted by Goldmen
On 2008-07-27 22:09:29, hfmls wrote:
i almost all the pictures set all auto, only set iso100 (at good light pictures)
In good light conditions K800 can automatically achieve ISO80 and do it almost everytime...
So,when you set ISO100,it`s just ISO increasing...
[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-07-27 21:41 ]