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Raider camera driver for K790, K800 and K810 (v6.6.5)


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Posted by hfmls
why has k790 some washed up pictures? it looks like it has a white filter over the photo... :\\ strange. some n82 are really clear and perfect.


Posted by milan91

On 2008-09-20 18:41:41, farukkk wrote:
k 790 rader 6.3 vs n82 photo

http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_25826681/tm.htm tıkla



Thanks farukkk

Posted by vudu70

On 2008-09-20 16:40:56, Raiderski wrote:
do you want better phone or phone with better camera?


He-he.. this snappy.

Posted by Goldmen

On 2008-09-20 10:18:00, Raiderski wrote:
...and one to make flash ISO value dependent on the distance from the camera to object (short distance = lower ISO)


It could be a real revolution!!!
This feature really could be a cherry pie!
...and could kick ass of some engineers.
It`s pity that didn`t worked...
May be someday,who knows...?

Posted by number1

On 2008-09-20 18:41:41, farukkk wrote:
k 790 rader 6.3 vs n82 photo

http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_25826681/tm.htm tıkla



3.2mp phonecams will always beat 5mp phone cams.

Posted by recl

On 2008-09-20 21:08:02, number1 wrote:

On 2008-09-20 18:41:41, farukkk wrote:
k 790 rader 6.3 vs n82 photo

http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_25826681/tm.htm tıkla



3.2mp phonecams will always beat 5mp phone cams.


how come?

Posted by number1

On 2008-09-20 22:29:53, recl wrote:

On 2008-09-20 21:08:02, number1 wrote:

On 2008-09-20 18:41:41, farukkk wrote:
k 790 rader 6.3 vs n82 photo

http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_25826681/tm.htm tıkla



3.2mp phonecams will always beat 5mp phone cams.


how come?

Cos the sensor is divided into less megapixels, means less so less noise reduction.

Posted by Junz
raider, can u make our setting for this camdriver still exist even we have closed our camera, or saving our setting? for example, we're replace the effect menu for our setting. this very nice if u can make it, he..he..
if this possible, i will say "my dreams come true".. Lol

Posted by wickedsick

On 2008-09-20 09:55:16, Raiderski wrote:
wickedsick
Question: How do I install your driver?

1. print code
2. bend the paper to size of battery
3. open battery cover
4. insert paper under battery
5. close cover
6. restart the phone

enjoy


WoW. I never thought that we could print the code of the simcard Thank for your guide

Btw, my k800 is fine with your new driver. I just got restarting issue with v6.3u

Posted by bishshoy007

On 2008-09-21 03:06:18, wickedsick wrote:

On 2008-09-20 09:55:16, Raiderski wrote:
wickedsick
Question: How do I install your driver?

1. print code
2. bend the paper to size of battery
3. open battery cover
4. insert paper under battery
5. close cover
6. restart the phone

enjoy


WoW. I never thought that we could print the code of the simcard Thank for your guide

Btw, my k800 is fine with your new driver. I just got restarting issue with v6.3u


What the heck does that mean. Do you mean to say that to correctly install the driver you have to do others things other than uploading the driver using XS++ ? Please clearly explain.

Posted by recl

On 2008-09-21 00:06:20, number1 wrote:

On 2008-09-20 22:29:53, recl wrote:

On 2008-09-20 21:08:02, number1 wrote:

On 2008-09-20 18:41:41, farukkk wrote:
k 790 rader 6.3 vs n82 photo

http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_25826681/tm.htm tıkla



3.2mp phonecams will always beat 5mp phone cams.


how come?

Cos the sensor is divided into less megapixels, means less so less noise reduction.


then why doesn't the samsung g600 take bad pics? the ones i've seen so far are brilliant

[ This Message was edited by: recl on 2008-09-21 11:11 ]

Posted by bennywei1664
raider 6.4
AUTO-EM (noise reduced~but still have some.....)


Full Size
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=14689


[ This Message was edited by: bennywei1664 on 2008-09-21 17:39 ]

Posted by bennywei1664
Raider 6.4
Different WB
ISO 100




Posted by Raiderski
bennywei
really nice

hfmls
some time ago I was wondering about next phone which can replace my K800. for the first time I was searching phone with better camera than better phone overall. wrong idea and waste of money. my decision is to buy digital camera. of course I won't be able to take it everywhere and everytime that's why K800 will be secondary camera which is always in my pocket

Goldmen
yeah, even with simplest ISO range (100 - 250 - 400) results were nice but I can't understand why this feature is not working good everytime. this sucks

Posted by bishshoy007
Hey guys check this out:

I found this here (in this topic)



but I dont think the positions are right:

Here I present to you the photoshopped version of the previous one. Umm! So whats special in this one.



The answer is the simply it contains the right positions with dual colour indication (-2.0 to -1.3). Also the "bright." has been replaced by the correct "AE" function. Hope you like it. Thank you!

Note: Copying the image for patch wont help. So check this link--->

http://www.4shared.com/file/6[....]-corrected_by_Bishshoy007.html

Posted by wickedsick

On 2008-09-22 10:51:43, Raiderski wrote:
Goldmen
yeah, even with simplest ISO range (100 - 250 - 400) results were nice but I can't understand why this feature is not working good everytime. this sucks


Youre right. Can we fix this problem to make it stable? Comparing with w800i, I think K800i sensor is not very good at all.

Posted by fulger06
Auto+CWB





Macro+CWB

Auto+CWB+EM

Macro+CWB+EM


Auto+CWB+SEM and EM










Posted by jokamaciek
Number1 do U want to try your 3.2MP camera and my 5MP Tessar camera from Carl Zeiss?

Posted by bbest
Well. Good drive isn't it .
Raider I have some suggestions for you drive.
1. Drive Setup (EV values) have many menu items, but does they all usefull? I suggest you to reorganize some of them, some exclude and some add.
2. Which difference between -0.7 contrast and +0.3 EV compensation? Left one of them.
3. -2.0 | balance cyan - red
-1.7 | balance yellow - blue
-1.3 | balance orange - light blue
Does they offen to use. You have made -1.0 | Custom White Balance. It's enough isn't it?
4. So. I suggest some order in Setup items
-2.0 | Custom White Balance
-1.7 | EV compensation
-1.3 | colors saturation
-1.0 | --------- it doesn't matter
-0.7 | Settings profiles
-0.3 | AE lock
0.0 | focus
+0.3 | shutter speed slow
+0.7 | shutter speed fast
+1.0 | --------- it doesn't matter
+1.3 | --------- it doesn't matter
+1.7 | ISO
+2.0 | zoom
Those items which use rarely - bring far to the end (1.3-2 values) and which use offen - close to center.
5. AE lock. Let it take 3 values: 0 - auto, 1 - unlock, 2 - lock
6. Settings profiles. It's new feature. Values in this drive go away after shot. So make profiles to save. It will good if you can save for example 8-15 profiles. And one profiles must be "default values" - all auto (originale state). May be do some *.txt file in phone for those purpose.

I live in Russia and a programmer too. If you want you can send me your source and we can cooperate in coding.

Posted by wickedsick
Read readme.txt and customization.txt for the solution.

Posted by bbest

On 2008-09-23 06:28:43, wickedsick wrote:
Read readme.txt and customization.txt for the solution.


How costomization.txt can help?
--------------
I fogote...
7. -1.0 | --------- it doesn't matter, replace with
-1.0 | EV lock
One more usefull feature. When I photographed, I had some trouble with illumination. I can go to
+0.3 | EV compensation, but it's uncomfortable. Can you bring some function like "EV lock": you aim on light (or dark) spot and lock those position of EV. Then take a photo of something.


[ This Message was edited by: bbest on 2008-09-23 06:12 ]

Posted by recl
@bbest

the ev lock is at 2.0

[ This Message was edited by: recl on 2008-09-23 11:34 ]

Posted by bbest

On 2008-09-23 12:32:05, recl wrote:
@bbest

the ev lock is at 2.0

[ This Message was edited by: recl on 2008-09-23 11:34 ]


be attentive: AE lock .... not EV

Posted by Domanoid
u can reorganize functions anytime... i have my camdriver, others have theirs camdrivers...
This is fully customizable
Raider make just basis for us

Posted by number1

On 2008-09-22 23:42:06, jokamaciek wrote:
Number1 do U want to try your 3.2MP camera and my 5MP Tessar camera from Carl Zeiss?



If your reffering to the nokia 5mp cam, my s500 takes better pics than that.

Posted by bbest

On 2008-09-23 12:58:41, Domanoid wrote:
u can reorganize functions anytime... i have my camdriver, others have theirs camdrivers...
This is fully customizable
Raider make just basis for us


I wrote about new functions. Not only reorganization.


Posted by Domanoid
Hmm, profiles? Ya? Ok, this would be useful
But rest - for me just reorganization

Posted by bennywei1664
I don't know what's (CWB)?
I only see [Custom White Balance | 0 = default 1 = start 2 = lock]
so.....that's it! ^^"

Raider 6.4
AUTO+infinity
White Balance | 0 = default


White Balance | 1 = start


White Balance | 2 = lock


Posted by bennywei1664
Ha! This joke was delete by BennyWei......

[ This Message was edited by: bennywei1664 on 2008-09-24 17:29 ]

Posted by bennywei1664
The conclusion is: Custom White Balance 1 = start

Compare as if likes color which my eye looked.....

Posted by milan91
Maybe to start reading??
Raiderski wrote 10x how to use CWB... First find some white paper, point to paper and go to -1.0 then go to 1(start) and 2(lock) then take shots.

Posted by hfmls
priceless XD

Posted by Raiderski
not much time, so I will be quick, more answers soon ok? fine

wickedsick
Can we fix this problem to make it stable?

I don't know, maybe but now I don't have patience to do something with it

bennywei
1. point camera at all white (gray?) surface (use auto WB)
2. start Custom WB and wait some seconds for colors stabilization
3. lock WB

(will be locked as long as you will not unlock it (go back to 0) or restart camera)

well used CWB should give you as much real colors as possible. this is theory however it's quite good in practice - really

somebody asked here is it possible to save settings and restore them after camera restart - no, it's not possible to save anything


Posted by bennywei1664
milan91:
Thanx a lot ! ^^

Raiderski:
hrhr~thanx your 11th answer!
This is 1st time u'r ans:
(budala
Custom White Balance function in not connected to EV postition. you must connect it. read my conversation with sacirxposed to know how to do this, we were talking about sharpness but this refers to all functions

if you have CWB for example at EV+2.0 then:

1. prepare white card (paper or anything else)
2. point your camera to card (fill whole screen)
3. go to EV+2.0 and set +1 - this will start colors stabilization process (it's quite fast)
4. if colors are stabilized then set +2 to lock white balance
5. remove white card and make shots

white balance will be locked all the time until you won't unlock it (EV+2.0 and 0)

you can use this not only with white card. K800 doesn't perform this as well as K750 with LED light

[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2008-06-25 13:08 ])

Too great!!!!!! The skill photographs which by me already found your
[RAIDER'S SUPERMODE CAMDRIVER 6.4] any shortcoming!

OH~~~~SUPERMODE!SUPERMODE!


Posted by Raiderski



Posted by hfmls
LOL.




well tried CWB, really NICE!

Posted by bbest

On 2008-09-23 22:04:19, Raiderski wrote:
not much time, so I will be quick, more answers soon ok? fine
...............
somebody asked here is it possible to save settings and restore them after camera restart - no, it's not possible to save anything


Why? Make some *.txt file in phone Files System. Wrote setting there.
And how about another ideas that I wrote to you?

Posted by farukkk
k 770 vs k 790 rader

k 790 vs 5mp u 900

http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_22913325/mpage_23/tm.htm tıkla

Posted by Raiderski
farukkk
well well, very interesting indeed. looks like 2.5 year old 3MP grandpa is still in great condition haha

landscape scene in some shots right? I see red color cast. colors should be more real with auto scene + daylight WB + focus infinity (manual by me or default in camera menu)

bbest
Why? Make some *.txt file in phone Files System. Wrote setting there.

question: how do you want write to file or read from it? driver doesn't have access to file I/O API

1. it's not good idea to change positions of functions after many months when many people already got used to them. besides it's not a big problem, if you don't like positions you can change them which is quite easy to do (customization.txt -> FUNC_ID). you can look at page 61 where jhayms (thanks!) posted very nic pic to show how to change positions of functions
2. huge difference. contrast is nothing more than simple image postprocessing while EV compensation have influence on exposure time. effects of both looks similar but in fact they are significantly different
3. it's not a big problem to remove them. if you wish you can do this yourself (answer #1)
4. answer #1
5. AE lock have only 2 states: 0 = unlocked (auto) and 1 = locked
6. profiles are good but it's a lot of work on which I'm not ready right now. I cannot copy & paste code from K750 driver just like that
7. EV lock / AE lock - two names, one feature

bennywei
I found my first examples of CWB in K800 on page 33. this damn thing really work haha


Posted by bbest
Raiderski,
+1. Thanks for explanation. Now I see that evering is simplier than I think first.
Besides "profiles" feature is not inportant .. as for me.
----------
Now I write your readme.txt in phone FS as help .... many functions and I don't remeber them all yeat

[ This Message was edited by: bbest on 2008-09-24 14:23 ]

Posted by Raiderski
you welcome mate. I know it's not easy to 'swallow' just like that every feature of this driver but good idea is to focus your attention only on this features which are useful for you and forget about others

what a loss that we don't have access to camera screen where we would be able to display even one label of text. this would be the greatest feature


Posted by bbest
Help me please. In my example
-2.0 | colors saturation
-1.7 | EV compensation
-1.3 | --------- it doesn't matter
-1.0 | --------- it doesn't matter
-0.7 | Custom White Balance
-0.3 | AE lock
0.0 | focus
+0.3 | shutter speed slow
+0.7 | shutter speed fast
+1.0 | --------- it doesn't matter
+1.3 | --------- it doesn't matter
+1.7 | ISO
+2.0 | zoom
how must look "FUNC_ID=" parameter?

[ This Message was edited by: bbest on 2008-09-24 17:15 ]

Posted by bbest

On 2008-09-24 15:55:54, Raiderski wrote:
what a loss that we don't have access to camera screen where we would be able to display even one label of text. this would be the greatest feature


SE can show their parameters, so we can do it. The question how to make it ... with which function. Raiderski how you disassemble camdrive? How you know about its functions?

[ This Message was edited by: bbest on 2008-09-24 17:14 ]

Posted by Raiderski
1. open camdriver0.dat in text editor (use pure txt editor like Notepad, do not use Word, OpenOffice etc.)
2. find 'FUNC_ID='
3. look at columns 'function ID' and 'EV position'
4. look below at list of all functions (ID and description)
5. find function and ID
5. copy ID at 'function ID' column of selected EV position

this is extremaly easy thing


Posted by bbest

On 2008-09-24 21:42:25, Raiderski wrote:
1. open camdriver0.dat in text editor (use pure txt editor like Notepad, do not use Word, OpenOffice etc.)
2. find 'FUNC_ID='
3. look at columns 'function ID' and 'EV position'
4. look below at list of all functions (ID and description)
5. find function and ID
5. copy ID at 'function ID' column of selected EV position

this is extremaly easy thing



Ha! It's not a binary code.
camdrive - is simple script with text setup. hmmm ....
----------------

Raiderski your comments in foreign for me language. Bad ... very bad . Write comments on English ... or Russion - best choice

[ This Message was edited by: bbest on 2008-09-25 05:34 ]

Posted by bbest
... some questions

your functions
----------------
// $s0 00 no function
// $s0 01 Focus
// $s0 02 Shutter speed slow
// $s0 03 Shutter speed fast
// #ZM_TYPE Zoom
// $s0 05 Sharpness
// $s0 06 Brightness
// $s0 07 Contrast
// $s0 08 Colors saturation
// $s0 09 Exposure compensation (EV)
// $s0 0a Autoexposure lock
// $s0 0b Hue (not working properly!)
// $s0 0c Color cyan
// $s0 0d Color red
// $s0 0e Color yellow
// $s0 0f Color blue
// $s0 10 Color green
// $s0 11 Color magenta
// $s0 12 Color orange
// $s0 13 Color light blue
// $s0 14 Balance cyan - red
// $s0 15 Balance yellow - blue
// $s0 16 Balance magenta - green
// $s0 17 Balance orange - light blue
// $s0 18 Custom White Balance
// $s0 19 ISO sensitivity

original properties
----------------
// 0 = Exposure Implemented
// 1 = White balance Implemented
// 2 = Flicker Implemented
// 3 = Vertical mirror Implemented
// 4 = Horisontal mirror Implemented
// 5 = JPEG Compression level Implemented
// 6 = Zoom Implemented
// 7 = Night mode Implemented
// 8 = Effects Implemented
// 9 = Focus mode Implemented
// a 10 = Focus operation Implemented
// b 11 = Get Exif information 1 Implemented
// c 12 = Get Exif information 2 Implemented
// d 13 = (LED support) NOT VALID FOR MCB 881
// e 14 = Flash support Implemented
// f 15 = Power save mode NOT VALID FOR MCB 881
// 10 16 = Scenes Implemented
// 11 17 = ISO Implemented
// 12 18 = Auto exposure NOT VALID FOR MCB 881
// 13 19 = Brightness NOT VALID FOR MCB 881
// 14 20 = Contrast Implemented
// 15 21 = Sharpening Implemented
// 16 22 = Metering mode Implemented
// 17 23 = Check flash needed Implemented
// 18 24 = Image stab Implemented
// 19 25 = Linear zoom Implemented
// 1a 26 = Get zoom value Implemented
// 1b 27 = Snapshot operation Implemented
// 1c 28 = Half release Implemented
// 1d 29 = ACM operation Implemented
------------

Raiderski - where can I read all camdrive properties, functions and procedures?


[ This Message was edited by: bbest on 2008-09-25 06:51 ]

Posted by hfmls
i would like an exif reader.

Posted by Lavdo
Any possibility to have a patch that will show graphics when selecting different camera functions in accordance with version 6.4 (k810i)? Anyone?

[ This Message was edited by: Lavdo on 2008-09-25 16:19 ]

Posted by bbest
Raiderski
ku ku

Posted by Raiderski
where can I read all camdrive properties, functions and procedures?


properties of driver are listed... in driver (you posted all of them)

functions/properties of camera are not listed. many of them are not available in original driver (manual focus, color correction, shutter speed, etc.). some of them are connected to properties of driver and in this way you know they exist. rest are unknown, I found some during researching and development

procedures doesn't exist, code is simple script with macro definitions like CMD, GET, SET, etc.


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