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Posted by boobb
I was thinking about buy k850 but i've realized that:

- n82 sound's better than k850
- n82 takes better photos than k850
- n82's video quality is better than k850
- I hate k850's fingerprints

but n82's design is not as beautiful as k850 is

i dunno what's better, what do you think?

both have 5MP camera

is there something that I must know before buy one of this phones?

bye!!


Posted by BobaFett
depends on your needs and taste... if u recognized, that n82 will fit more your imagination, then go for it. i dont look on the design, more on the inner and a symbian os nokia is far better then the an se java fone imo

Posted by Sony α
Haha Boba, Nice try -

Dude - Symbian v Java - its a baby battle, where do your allegiances lie lol, thats the question - plus the K850i has great Battery Life!

Although the N82 has better optics (Guilty as charged, I use only Original Minolta and Zeiss Lenses on my Sony α)...

But as Boba said, its your personal taste!

Posted by BobaFett
well, a symbian os offers for u far more option then a java fone, as i see. next to it the nokia support ( incl third party ) is amazing. k850 offers a good cam, but thats all imo.

Posted by boobb
hi everybody! well, i'm still a teenager so i don't care if it has symbian, windows 95 or whatever.

What i look for in a mobile phone is just entertainment, specially music and the fact that it has a good design

(hey! everybody loves showing off!)

bye!!!

Posted by BobaFett
well, there are then other options as n82 or k850 imo... to buy a fone only cos of the cam and music, is a bit waste imo, especially an n82...

or mayb eits just me, i see things with another eye like a teenager

Posted by DonJuan
The N82 is lighter also

Posted by Sony α
Then, K850i wins HandsDown!

It has the PSP/PS3 'XMB' - and is a powerful allrounder, you wont be disappointed - K850i it is.

Posted by Mige
n82 is better

Posted by Dogmann
Hi boobb

I would suggest reading the K850 Firmware thread and in fact all the threads and see what those who own one are saying. Then you can see what you are letting yourself in for and if any of those things are a problem for you or not. Then try and read what people are saying about the N82 and see which one suits you better but buying a device purely on looks doesn't really make a lot of sense IMO. Seeing if it does what you want and performs as you want or need it to makes more sense IMO. But really only you can decide what will serve you best and you will be happy with owning and using.

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Posted by Coquito
Do you want a good camera and music player?


On 2008-05-08 23:35:37, boobb wrote:

- n82 sound's better than k850
- n82 takes better photos than k850
- n82's video quality is better than k850


K850 desing is better but....

- I hate k850's fingerprints



On 2008-05-08 23:35:37, boobb wrote:

i dunno what's better, what do you think?

You Answered your own questions


both have 5MP camera


and again...


n82 takes better photos than k850



is there something that I must know before buy one of this phones?


YES, the only n82 disavantadge is the price vs k850

Posted by Mige
you're right

Posted by Juanjo_JJ
N82 all the way!

Posted by Mige
exactly

Posted by mode

On 2008-05-09 01:15:22, Dogmann wrote:

....buying a device purely on looks doesn't really make a lot of sense IMO. Seeing if does what you want and performs as you want or need it to makes more sense IMO.


Well actually pure looks does make sense, that's why there is such a range called design phones, essentially pretty devices with no brains. Apparently there's a market for these or else such a range would not exist. IMO aesthetics (physical and UI) is the only edge SE has over Nokia atm but even that is subjective. Personally, Nokias look unaesthetical to my eyes (especially E90, sorry Marc) with the exception of 6300 which is perfection on Nokia's part. I personally place design as an important criteria mainly because of my design background and I'm sure many other designers share my sentiment. I just feel that form and function should always go hand in hand and no manufacturer currently satisfy this requirement of mine

Posted by HotXRock
It is incorrect that UI is just aesthetics. It has also a great impact on how convenient is the use of the device, and for me SE have always had better UI than Nokia. I have nothing against N82, but menus in SE platform are much more convenient in daily usage.

Plus K850 has better camera settings and camera pics differ, K850 with more noise and N82 with more blur. This is partially due to much stronger JPEG quantization in N82 (lesser preservation of the details). But what's better? It is your own choice.

Yes, video can be the argument, but again, it is only in the case when you use it very often. For those who don't use it on a regular basis, video quality means nothing. And BTW, K850 videos are much lesser in size due to lower resolution, but it is still sufficient enough for QVGA screens (and watching on mobile phones).

And K850 is more refined than N82. N82 is a good device, but my personal choice is K850 for the reasons I mentioned above.

Posted by Duran
don't forgot BROD issues on k850 as well8-)

Posted by se_dude
i prefer the k850 to the n82 anyday..i had tried the n82 and typing an sms on that hone was simply impossible...and btw..the n82 has a fingerprint problem too..the titanium version looks very dirty when used for a longer stretch of time...the pics taken..the phone i had used..were not too impressive either...my k850 took better at auto settings..

i personally advice u to check the k850 pic section in esato and the pics taken by tother mobiles section here..

and btw..BROD never hapenned to anyphone in INDIA atleast...i guess its only for branded phone...and SE with the next firmware shall make sure it wont happen again..

as for sound quality...i dont thnk N82 comes close to the k850 in any way...the n82 sounds too mushy when handling bass..but does refer the mids well..

Posted by nikolat
I'd prefer the N82 ANY DAY.

First: The N82 is a smart phone, making the system much more flexible.
Second: the N82's camera is better than the K850 one IMO. Check this out... http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]_vs_nokia_n95-review-162p2.php (the N95 and N82 have the same camera, but the N82 has an Xenon flash). I think the N95/82 camera is better than the one on the K850, simply because the pictures have more life and color added to them (my honest opinion).
Third: The K850 has the problem with dust behind the lens cover... it's not a huge problem but it's still something.
Fourth: The N82 isn't covered in horrible glossy surfaces.

That's just my 2 cents. I think SE are getting sloppy.

As for this...

the titanium version looks very dirty when used for a longer stretch of time...the pics taken..the phone i had used..were not too impressive either...my k850 took better at auto settings..


Take a look at the GSM arena camera review and judge for yourself... they are both good but I have to say the N82 is better... and the K850 also gets very dirty, it IS covered in gloss ya know.

[ This Message was edited by: nikolat on 2008-05-09 14:09 ]

Posted by buntoo
N82 design is really bogus and the built in accelerometer is too sensitive.

go for a K850i.. it offers the best camera ever. Its Media has no match.
just a fantastic phone in all aspects.
screen quality is just wonderful. though the phone is susceptible to finger prints and looks dirty even after a single use..., but u can keep it clean with the help of some fibre cloth.


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Posted by se_dude
^^^i second that..n82 has an awful screen IMO

Posted by Luci'sPower
bla bla bla....N82 has the same screen as any N series just with lower brightness....in rest nothing....I work at Nokia so i now what i'm talking about.....Don't make stupid arguments

Posted by QVGA

On 2008-05-09 17:52:30, se_dude wrote:
^^^i second that..n82 has an awful screen IMO

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you sleep comfortably at night

Posted by se_dude
^^^at least i speak about phones which i have used..rather than BS based on what peaple say...and n82 screen comes nowwhere close to any new SE phone...compare them and u will kno..

Posted by Luci'sPower
Your right....i can 'swear' the fact that he didn't even had a N82 in his hands ever

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Ive used N81,N82, N95, N95-8gb, W910, W960, and P1 and own a N81 and N80, i can tell you now that the N82 has a different screen to N81 and N95/N95-8gb. N82 has a darker screen for some weird reason, the N81 and N95s have bright colourful screens but N82 is dark and seems to be lower quality BUT the K850 DOES NOT touch an N82 in allround, the N82 is by far better and is lighter. The N82 has A LOT more to offer INCLUDING FULL YouTube, much better camera, Wi-Fi, TV-Out , Better video recording, a larger screen and SO MUCH MORE with not as many problems as ive read of the K850. But anyway its your decision, the N82 has a 3D Graphics Engine with games like Global Race, System Rush, Quake, Quake-2 and some others taking full advantage of it,like i said, N82 has a lot more out there for it.


Posted by plankgatan
if you want a big clumsy phone with bad battery life BUT with good camera, AGPS, S60 platform, etc, .............buy N82

if you want a small beatiful phone with good battery life with good camera, MUCH better screen(N82 screen is really dull), A200 platform, MUCH better music features .....buy K850

Posted by QVGA

On 2008-05-09 18:25:21, Luci'sPower wrote:
Your right....i can 'swear' the fact that he didn't even had a N82 in his hands ever

I can 'swear' that you're as dumb in real as you act here.
I 'have' used N82

Posted by Luci'sPower
..........dumb me or you.......i was aproving you in that post not the other guy

Posted by NightBlade
No name calling, please.

Posted by QVGA

On 2008-05-09 20:38:48, Luci'sPower wrote:
..........dumb me or you.......i was aproving you in that post not the other guy

sorry about that. i misunderstood

Posted by se_dude

On 2008-05-09 19:06:51, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Ive used N81,N82, N95, N95-8gb, W910, W960, and P1 and own a N81 and N80, i can tell you now that the N82 has a different screen to N81 and N95/N95-8gb. N82 has a darker screen for some weird reason, the N81 and N95s have bright colourful screens but N82 is dark and seems to be lower quality BUT the K850 DOES NOT touch an N82 in allround, the N82 is by far better and is lighter. The N82 has A LOT more to offer INCLUDING FULL YouTube, much better camera, Wi-Fi, TV-Out , Better video recording, a larger screen and SO MUCH MORE with not as many problems as ive read of the K850. But anyway its your decision, the N82 has a 3D Graphics Engine with games like Global Race, System Rush, Quake, Quake-2 and some others taking full advantage of it,like i said, N82 has a lot more out there for it.




thats what i mean..the n95 beats the n82 screen hands down..and dude..for god's sake..cut the crap and stop commenting on things that you dont know yourself....i dunno what the screen is made of..but the readability under the sun is very bad..and can hardly be read properly at differnt angles...

nokia should also start a tuition for teaching peaple how to type on the n82 keyboard..its pure BS...someone with large hands will find it impossible to type one letter at a time...crap IMO...

all these have IMO with it..u guys are more than welcome comment on the phone..but please dont refer to me..its your opinion..not mine



Posted by elsuirad
For all above suggestions after I read it, I sounds to me that both of them almost have in their own (N82& K850) specialties.

But for me, I will look first for their prices.

I may sound like cheap but if both of them are almost equal, I will take which one of them has the lowest price.

Since the MOST important issue that we should think about IS the Communication (calling, texting, e-mail checking, etc..). This is what we use in any kind of mobile phones. It's not because of flashy or whether you have THE MOST expensive gadget you may have, but still the bottom line is how we use the Mobile phone itself especially in any event we encounter (emergency situations, giving news to others....) even though we pamper our mobile phones from updating its software/firmwares and so forth, I still prefer to choose the one has the lowest price.

Any comments or reactions about my statement here, I'd be happy to accept it whether it's negative or positive. It's my own comment (and also my suggestion)

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Posted by lolcito
n82 is better !!

Posted by aksd
If its value for money, I suggest you buy the Nokia N82 as it offers a good deal for the amount you pay for.

The K850 is serisouly not worth its price in my opinion. I dont think a phone with 5Mpx anda good screen is worth 400-450USD while the N82 at about 500USD has 5Mpx, GPS, TV-out, and decent music quality. Even if I dont use certain features I prefer to get the best bang for the buck, and if I were to buy the K850 at 450USD and knew the N82 was available at 500USD I'd actually feel cheated , but thats just me.

However if you want to consider a good all round SE phone maybe you can consider the P1i, which is again about 400-450USD? Its a really good phone.

Posted by QVGA

On 2008-05-10 05:33:50, se_dude wrote:

On 2008-05-09 19:06:51, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Ive used N81,N82, N95, N95-8gb, W910, W960, and P1 and own a N81 and N80, i can tell you now that the N82 has a different screen to N81 and N95/N95-8gb. N82 has a darker screen for some weird reason, the N81 and N95s have bright colourful screens but N82 is dark and seems to be lower quality BUT the K850 DOES NOT touch an N82 in allround, the N82 is by far better and is lighter. The N82 has A LOT more to offer INCLUDING FULL YouTube, much better camera, Wi-Fi, TV-Out , Better video recording, a larger screen and SO MUCH MORE with not as many problems as ive read of the K850. But anyway its your decision, the N82 has a 3D Graphics Engine with games like Global Race, System Rush, Quake, Quake-2 and some others taking full advantage of it,like i said, N82 has a lot more out there for it.




thats what i mean..the n95 beats the n82 screen hands down..and dude..for god's sake..cut the crap and stop commenting on things that you dont know yourself....i dunno what the screen is made of..but the readability under the sun is very bad..and can hardly be read properly at differnt angles...

nokia should also start a tuition for teaching peaple how to type on the n82 keyboard..its pure BS...someone with large hands will find it impossible to type one letter at a time...crap IMO...

all these have IMO with it..u guys are more than welcome comment on the phone..but please dont refer to me..its your opinion..not mine



You can either cut the crap yourself, or get the hell out. Dont even think for a second that its only you who has used N81 and stop acting like you're all knowing because you clearly are NOT!
Oh and as for the keys, they are no better than K850, T650 and W610.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
se_dude
You speak as if SEs don't have uncomfortable keyboards. The W880, W950, K850 and the others that QVGA mentioned also have small keys. The N82 is darker and less colourful than the other newer Nseries devices but it's not that bad, you are making it sound like screen is just completely terrible and its not.

Posted by se_dude
i was comparing the n82 screen to its big brother..the n95..

and for your kind info..the k850 keypad is quite comfortable to use...maximum utilization of space and a wonderful dpad,are its plus points..the soft keys are brilliant..the keys are soft and well protruded..

the n82 does not come near to egronomics as the k850..

the user has clearly mentioned his needs..he does not want a symbian phone..and mal-utilization of a symbain phone can lead to slowness which hampers the performance of the phone in the long run..

and QVGA..please..i never referred to u in any of my posts..i am trying to give my opinion..and i would be obliged if you please stick to your own..everyone in this forum has an opinion to himself and disrespecting others does not put you in good light whatsoever..

Posted by mib1800
@se_dude

you must be joking right? K850 with its learn-it-all-over-again unconventional keypad is downright difficult to use.

The only way K850 is a good buy compared to N82 is when its price is less than HALF that of N82. Otherwise the K850 is just a stupid buy with its inferior camera, crap built quality, bugs ridden firmware and much inferior specs.

Posted by Luci'sPower
Se_dude

The N82 is the big brother .....The N95 is the Big brother of the N80 so get your facts togheter.And read every review online they all say that the n82 has the same quality screen as the other nokias just with less brightness

Anyway go for the N82 if you have the money if not The K850 is a nice phone

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Posted by QVGA

On 2008-05-10 09:37:37, se_dude wrote:
i was comparing the n82 screen to its big brother..the n95..

and for your kind info..the k850 keypad is quite comfortable to use...maximum utilization of space and a wonderful dpad,are its plus points..the soft keys are brilliant..the keys are soft and well protruded..

the n82 does not come near to egronomics as the k850..

the user has clearly mentioned his needs..he does not want a symbian phone..and mal-utilization of a symbain phone can lead to slowness which hampers the performance of the phone in the long run..

and QVGA..please..i never referred to u in any of my posts..i am trying to give my opinion..and i would be obliged if you please stick to your own..everyone in this forum has an opinion to himself and disrespecting others does not put you in good light whatsoever..

Give your opinion like a civilized person. Its not me who is being disrespectful, its you. Everyone in this post is against you, more because of your behavior. Just because you're on an online forum doesnt mean you grow an extra set of balls and wave them around here.
And please read before you post, the user didnt say he doesnt want a symbian, he said he doesnt care if the phone has one. Quite different in meaning than what you said.

And as for symbian being slow because of its mis-use. I can only say if someone can mis-use a symbian, he probably will mis-use a toilet paper; because its no more difficult to use than SE, in fact its easier. I know because i've been using one for 2 years now. How long have you been using a nokia?

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Posted by 045crew
I'd reckon the N82 is better,

-no (semi-)touchscreen
-GPS on board
-Symbian S60 system

But i will be a SE addict

Posted by plankgatan
there is allready many threads about this subject..... why start a new one ????

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=162676&start=0

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=163115&start=0


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Posted by AbuBasim

On 2008-05-10 13:07:11, plankgatan wrote:
there is allready many threads about this subject..... why start a new one ????

Why not? This is a big topic and we should discuss it endlessly! Every little flaw and bug raked over and over.

Sorry, I couldn't help borrowing a line from Zardoz as these threads reminded me of the movie.

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Posted by zirkie101
N82 is 1 000 000 times better than K850 ever will be. Non-negotiable. Full stop.

Posted by razec
Guys, we all know how superior N82 is over K850 specs wise. We don't need to constantly reiterate stating N82 is better than K850 or whatsoever. The main thing here lies on the personal user experience that the two offers on the target user. if the author of this thread finds K850 well fitting his lifestyle then he should go for it, otherwise go to N82. there is generally no better phone that fit litterally all of us that's why we have lots of phone varieties to choose from.

Posted by mode
N82 is better because:
1. An open OS means limitless possibilities with limitless apps ranging from IR remote control to real business solutions such as project management tools etc)
2. More stable & tested platform as compared to K850
3. Looks more exclusive and value for money if you're into that kinda thing
4. Camera is arguably better if not relatively the same with K850 (I personally think it's better)
5. More fun with limitless uses as compared to K850, in short, whatever K850 has, N82 has and so much more (games, multimedia functions, etc)

Posted by Mige
you're right

Posted by -PERFECT-
If your requirements are to be able in a whole day to shot over 100 photos (with a good camera) and to have several telephone calls (with very good quality) k850 is the best.
I could have the best cameraphone but if the battery doesnt last sufficiently i need two devices or two full charged bettery.


Posted by bavlondon2
How many more of these threads must we see. N82 rules all end of story. I personally didnt like it but in terms of functionality it wipes the floor with the k850 in just about every way....no wait a mintue. In every way!

The only thing the k850 has going for it is that its cheaper.


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