Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-05-06 16:05:48, BIG-Stan wrote:
But I really miss a accelerator in it.
It's called "accelerometer".
Posted by BIG-Stan
AH!
I was thinking to look it up in a dictionary but I was too lazy. Oh well...
Posted by borg_
It seems a nice HTC
Posted by bavlondon2
On 2008-05-06 16:08:49, NightBlade wrote:
On 2008-05-06 16:05:48, BIG-Stan wrote:
But I really miss a accelerator in it.
It's called "accelerometer".
It has one. It says so on the HTC site.
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-05-06 18:15:23, bavlondon2 wrote:
On 2008-05-06 16:08:49, NightBlade wrote:
On 2008-05-06 16:05:48, BIG-Stan wrote:
But I really miss a accelerator in it.
It's called "accelerometer".
It has one. It says so on the HTC site.
He was talking about the X1.
Posted by bavlondon2
Oh my bad lol
Posted by Ruudfood
No flash? WTF??!?!?
Posted by bavlondon2
This is WM 6.1 Pro right? Is X1 6.1 pro aswell or just 6.1? I think this coupled with the bad news on X1 makes for interesting thinking for those wanting to buy the X1.
Posted by NightBlade
Bad news, guys. It seems the touchscreen is resistive, instead of capacitive. Or at least so I read on Engadget.
Posted by laurenke01
On 2008-05-06 18:50:51, bavlondon2 wrote:
Is X1 6.1 pro aswell or just 6.1?
There is no such thing as "just" 6.1. There is either Standard (non-touch) or Pro (touch).
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Posted by aksd
BTW its has 192MB RAM and not 128, awesome! Link http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46286
First phone with 192MB? I'm so excited with this phone I can barely contain myself lol.
No micro SD slot, what a pity
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Posted by Ruudfood
On 2008-05-06 18:38:01, Ruudfood wrote:
No flash? WTF??!?!?
So no-one cares about that? Love the idea of this phone but this lack of a very basic feature kills it stone dead for me.
Posted by malinda
Wait for SE P5i
Posted by badassmam
Does it have handwriting recognition? Something that I cannot live without.
I guess it does (GSMarena). Anyways, does the finger friendly interface extend to all programs or do you have to pull the stylus out beyond the picture or music functions? Can you use your fingers in the Office applications for example? This is where the Touch failed.
Posted by laurenke01
For all the 'Mericans: HTC updated the Diamond product page. There is another version with GSM/EDGE 850/1800/1900 and HSDPA 850/1900. Looks like I'll be importing this version unlocked unless Paris manages to wow me more.
Posted by BobaFett
engadget report
http://www.engadgetmobile.com[....]06/htc-touch-diamond-hands-on/
Posted by EMS06
I'm still loving the X1, maybe I expected too much from HTC particularly since they knew well in advance about the X1, AND ALSO CONSIDERING THAT THEY ARE MANUFACTURING IT.
Posted by kenoby
^^^^As they are manufacturing it makes it a reason enough not to make it better than X1
Posted by BobaFett
very good point. imo 1 os runs more smooth then 2...
Posted by Dogmann
@askd
I have to ask why do you feel that he 192mb of Ram is so necessary as whilst i agree 64mb of Ram wasn't enough and caused many problems for various devices even on different platforms.
Since i have had the newer generation of devices with 128mb of Ram i have never had an out of Ram problem not even close. Even with full Multitasking it never drops below about 20mb of Ram or maybe i just don't push my devices enough.
@kenboy
Sorry are you saying that it makes sense for HTC not to make their own product better than one they are making for someone else? As personally i would say the opposite is true.
Marc
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Posted by kenoby
@ Dogmann, far from the truth mate. I do not think they are some enemies collaborating just to trick one another in the end?
Did Toyota, Citroen and Peugeot trick one another when they made same cars? This is just a random example from the near past. Examples of companies collaborations are numerous and they all lead to the same points: development and manufacturing cost reduction, knowledge exchange, etc etc....
Also racing between companies is controlled... Why put something on the market that you will replace with a much better device in a half year time..
Longer they can keep one technology on the market more money they can all earn..
Something long term... Not a one night stand without condom....
Posted by aksd
@Dogmann
As you know I like playing around with my phones, currently I have a few RAm intensive apps on my TyTn2, I have about 5-10MB free RAM from the 128MB. ALso although 128MB RAM is mentioned unlike the Symbian phones which give you about 90MB free RAM on the TyTn2 I get only 70, the rest is eaten up by the OS, TOuchFlo etc... so 192MB is most welcome. In SYmbian you dont have as many RAM intensive apps as in WM, like GUI replacememnts, J2SE emulators and so on... I program a bit on Java(J2SE) and the Je2SE JVM to test out my apps is a boon, although it hogs mem.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi askd,
Thanks for that as i didn't realise that you could use so much of your Ram from 128MB in which case i can now understand why it is a welcome addition and indeed does makes sense.
Marc
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Posted by EMS06
@kenoby
In case you failed to notice SE's moved into HTC's territory. This may be a "collaboration" but deep down it is direct competition and right now the X1 is a better product even though they are somewhat similar. The fact that HTC is manufacturing the Xperia doesn't mean that it is their (HTC) product they still need to compete with the "new kid on the block" who is actually shinning brighter than the veteran at this point.
Posted by aksd
On 2008-05-07 11:47:11, Dogmann wrote:
Hi askd,
Thanks for that as i didn't realise that you could use so much of your Ram from 128MB in which case i can now understand why it is a welcome addition and indeed does makes sense.
Marc
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If on WM we did have 90+ MB free at boot up like on Nokia phones 128 should be enough, but since we have 70MB which reduces to < 60 after the caches etc.. load up, its really not all that great.
Posted by norti
X1 will have the same chipset as the Diamond, look at the pic on Bengalboy's preview: http://www.pbase.com/bengalboy/image/96488044.jpg (and he has got a newer X1 with the accent characters key) (taken from here: http://www.bengalboy.com/modu[....]=8&post_id=6603#forumpost6603)
So there will be no difference in this (maybe the screen drivers will be the same too and maybe TouchFlow 3D will be made available for official or non-official/cooked ROMs for the X1. The only set back can be the lesser 128MB memory on the X1 playing nice with TouchFlow)
Posted by BobaFett
only 900 mah battery? for such a device, with so many features, so big screen, not to mention the built in gps etc thats crap. even trinity has 1500 mah batt, but at least 1200 mah would be the minimum.
Posted by laurenke01
The battery is kind of sucky, but Seido will create OEM-sized extended batteries within a few months probably (just like they're done for all HTC phones), most likely in the 1200-1300mAh range.
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Posted by bavlondon2
On 2008-05-08 05:04:24, BobaFett wrote:
only 900 mah battery? for such a device, with so many features, so big screen, not to mention the built in gps etc thats crap. even trinity has 1500 mah batt, but at least 1200 mah would be the minimum.
Apparantly HTC are a lot more accurate in terms of battery life quotes than others. Most others that say 1200 or 1500 are never really that much. I know my P1 sure as hell isnt what SE says it is.
Posted by SloopJohnB
imo this is just an iphone wannabe running windows and with a funny looking back. NOT thrilled.
Posted by mib1800
...an iphone wannabe with the power to squash the iphone into dust.
Posted by >500
i dont see how its a wanna-be-iphone. if it were, HTC could have just used the same design and specs
then its a wanna be.
i see no similarities besides full touch screen
Posted by MYB87
seems that these days any touch screen device is an iphone wannabe
Posted by >500
even though touchscreen has been around for much longer, but any wayyyyyyyy
do people think every high end phone produced these days is made to go against the iphone? i dont think so, iphone or not, this phone would have still been developed imo
Posted by tranced
HTC Touch Diamond hits the FCC
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
For those of you interested in this device their are some really good pictures of it over at CNET the link is here
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,39029453,49296808,00.htm
It shows a lot of what the apps look like including what the new Opera 9.5 browser it uses is like to.
I must say the more i have read and seen of this device the more impressed i have been. What i find most interesting is just how fast it will be launched from announcement which is a lesson other manufacturers could certainly learn form. Also the fact that it will be available from all the UK Networks in June is impressive to.
Marc
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Posted by aksd
@Marc
That link redirects me to my yahoo mail account. Is that by chance a link to an email for yours?
Regarding the fast launch date, I think its more of a case of late announcement rather than an early launch. Design of the device began in November 2006. Thats about 1 and a half years ago, which is the usualy lead time for development of a new phone.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi askd,
Correct link now there, oop's sorry to many meds again I'm afraid mean mistakes.
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Posted by laurenke01
Diamond is definitely amazing. If Paris doesn't pan out, this is my next device. Though I'll need one of those Seido batteries.
Posted by aksd
On 2008-05-09 18:14:42, Dogmann wrote:
Hi askd,
Correct link now there, oop's sorry to many meds again I'm afraid mean mistakes.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-05-09 17:18 ]
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Its a pity about the 4GB cap on memory, what a waste of a product imo
I wonder if there will be a later version with a memeory card slot? The battery is'nt too big an issue in my opinion though, you will find after market batteries, and if not if it lasts a day it should be sufficent, I have'nt used a phone till date thats lasted me past 10pm.
Lets see if they release the keyboard version with a mem card slot or not. I would be a wee bit difficult to use only a touch screen after getting used to the Qwerty keyboard on the TyTn II
Posted by laurenke01
Raphael will be the keyboard/memory slot version. Officially known as the Touch Pro.
Posted by Yakkaimono
That's great to hear.
With the keyboard the touch pro should be a bit thicker. So anyone knows about how much thicker?
I hope they keep the 4GB internal storage and only add a memory card slot to it that would be the best solution in my opinion.
Posted by aksd
17mm from what I've heard
Posted by laurenke01
On 2008-05-09 19:35:53, Yakkaimono wrote:
I hope they keep the 4GB internal storage and only add a memory card slot to it that would be the best solution in my opinion.
I wouldn't count on that. The rumor is Diamond: 4GB; Raphael: Memory card. Not both.
Posted by bavlondon2
Opera 9.5 looks great.
Posted by deepsme
Sorry if its been already posted..but here's a keyboard and texting demo of the Diamond..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ1gPvz1veU
Posted by jakontil
the best HTC thus far! no doubt about it! with 192 MB RAM, and a 3D Graphic rendering, SiRFII Chip GPS, and a VGA screen, it's a wow!
Posted by badassmam
Does it have handwriting recognition? I ask because I cannot see a stylus.
Posted by aksd
It is'nt Sirf, its GPSOne, the Qualcomm MSM7201A is a system on chip, its basically to put it in plain terms, lots of processors built into on and the GPS is one of those "sub-processors". The Sirf is a stand alone GPS processor and has slightly better performance than the Qualcomm GPS solution.
It does have a stylus, I think left side bottom if I'm not mistaken, or is it the right side bottom lol, anyway the stylus is at the bottom and its got handwriting recognition.
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Posted by Yakkaimono
Here is a pic of the Diamonds stylish Dock.
It really looks great in my opinion.