Posted by IrDA_FAN
This is a real interesting question how to use a PC like a gateway or BT-host for print profile. I will try to simulate this bridge.
Posted by flipmacster
Will a Tecom Bluetooth USB Dongle work on my mac?
Posted by jplacson
orang3 and jh67-- Orang3 you CAN use the voice answer function... I'm currently using it on my T68 and HBH-10. Jh67, you are correct in that you cannot ACTIVATE the voice functions without pressing the headset button, BUT you can answer the phone without touching either the phone or the headset at all as long as these are set:
1.)Voice Commands are on, Voice answer is on and you have recorded a command for it.
2.)Under Bluetooth, headset sound is set to 'in headset'
3.)Voice Answer Environment make sure to select Bluetooth... this instantly activates voice commands once a call is received, the phone then listens for a voice command over BT.
Unfortunately, MAKING a call requires you press the button on the headset.
Posted by elma
GOwin you are tight those two profiles are very interesting but I have heard rumours that not many mobiles will have these profiles due to pressure from mobile networks on handset manufaturers, as usual the networks are afraid of losing out on revenue, a real shame really as we were looking at eneterprise solutions using mobile for local calls over Voip networks.....would have been really nice. But cant count it out yet, still waiting on more info.
though as a point of interest many of the blutooth AP's we have trailed have the the cordless profile and there are companies that are making voice software to work with existing headsets
** I feel luck to be the one the first person in perth WA to get my t68 upgraded today woohooo now all I need is a network to use mms on
Posted by Aero
I use a PC-Card from IBM with SW from Digianswer. It works perfect in order to send pictures and sounds to and from my T68i. Obviously this software supports more than vCard and vCal over Object Push.
Posted by GOwin
@elma
do keep us posted on developments. even if we dont get the chance to try it ourselves, at least it's nice to hear about others getting the chance.
Posted by Psychological-Defiance
Very informative, guess you guys have been doing your homework. ericssons and SE's websites arent really very easy to navigate, especially sonyericsson.com
peace
Posted by funks
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I believe the BT preview stack for OSX supports both CSR and BROADCOM devices..
The Tecom is a broadcom device (AKA Belkin USB BT adapter)
Does anybody know how microsoft's BT stack will work with profiles? It's supposed to use IPV6 for interconnectivity, does it mean all devices hooked up on the PAN will need to be IPV6 enabled?
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Posted by Prom1
GOwin,
Glad that your just as interested in both of those profiles just like myself. I've been following Bluetooths advancements since the last 3 years......
If anyone can remember Ericsson's site about Flash demos of Bluetooth long before the T39 or T68 both were realities, maybe when the T36 was on the drawing board, one of the Flash demos actually displayed the first one you mentioned.
Actually I'm hoping that there is a way around this by enabling your computer with Bluetooth and connecting to the 56k modem + software to dialout a phone number.......Apple's iSync software is the closest I've seen make this protocol a reality (SMS from the computer thru the Bluetooth phone--Ericsson of course--and to another cell number, or doing this as a response from rejecting an incoming call all done on your Mac).
I dont think wireless telcos really care about this anyway, because the majority of people are still having trouble figuring out their voicemail; hence the reason for the massive buying shitty phones and not opting for high-tech services, making telcos not bring-in enough money to move forward to enable 3G......can you say economies of scale boys & girls? I knew you could.LOL. Anyhow, wireless telcos would be happy because the phones that can do this via bluetooth are on the high end of the price list for retail pricing and on contracts (at least in North America). The majority of those of us inclined to take advantage of our homelines completing or taking over an "active" cell phone call via Bluetooth wouldnt happen so often throughout the day....Y?? Because the phone that we carry is of course MOBILE meaning 8outof10 we'd be outta range to take advantage of this.
STILL I WANT IT NOW!
Posted by uleet
nice, thanks for sharing
Posted by Prom1
Hey, Jan (JH67) got an important question
I did a qualification search of the NextLink BlueSpoon BT headset and found that not only does it support the BT Headset profile but also 2 serial port profiles. Why? and how is this used by the end user???
Here's the link:
http://qualweb.opengroup.org/Template2.cfm?LinkQualified=QualifiedProducts
Cheers!
Posted by Prom1
NEXTLINK.TO Bluespoon is a Bluetooth Wireless Headset.
Bluetooth identifier : B00769
Created Date : 2002-09-25
Spec version : 1.1
PRD version : 1.0
Product ID : Bluespoon V.3.0
Software Version : 3.0 rev.a
Hardware Version : 3.0 rev.a
Qualified Product Notice : Bluespoon-V.3.0_201376_E1a.pdf
Compliant Portion : Bluespoon-V.3.0_201376_C1a.pdf
Capability Profile : - Headset-HS
- GAP
- Serial-DevA
- Serial-DevB
Interop Devices : - -
Product Type : PROD
List Date : 2002-09-25
Product Contact Person : Fatmir Kabashi
Email : fatmir.kabashi@nextlink.to
Phone : +45 70 22 23 43
Company URL : http://www.nextlink.to
BQB : Johansson , Lars-Olov
Cheers....
Donovan
Posted by pzboyz
Prom1
It is a reasonable question and is an inherent part of Headset Profile.
So there is no real extra functionality available to be used.
I guess the best way to describe DevA and DevB is that the Headset is able to start a connection and also to accept a connection from an AG.
Posted by Prom1
cool thanks bud.
Posted by IrDA_FAN
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Yes, it works fine in Mac.
_________________
T68/Tecom BT3030/FWD Carkit
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Posted by uleet
Thanks for the info m8
Posted by HanneZ
what does it mean when a BT device have Power class 1,2 or 3 ? ..which is the best?
hmm sorry mates i found it :
Class 1: 100mW ~ +20dBm, 100m range
Class 2: 2.5mW ~ +4dBm, 15m range
Class 3: 1mW ~ 0dBm, 10m range
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Posted by mpavey
Which Bluetooth profiles need to be supported by any USB adapter I buy for my PC in order to use all the features (contact sync, picture transfer to phone, picture transfer from phone, etc.)?
Thanks very much,
Mike Pavey
Posted by IrDA_FAN
Are you sure that you would like to use ALL profiles in PC? For example, carkit profile?
In case, you should have all profiles that available in all bluetooth device in the environment now and later.
Posted by elmarko
does bluetooth work on the T65 cos the book i got says its supported but doesnt actually telly me how to use it!
Posted by nixnut
This was send to me earlier today:
"Have you heard about the echo-canceller? There is a echo problem on the HBH-30 used with the T68i when the network is to crowded"
Posted by amagab
Has anyone got the car bluetooth kit?
Posted by nixnut
Yup, nice stuff
Posted by amagab
nixnut> would you like to post a short review? Is it the SE model you have? Thanks!
Posted by sunjivas
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i dont think the T65 duz support BT actually
Posted by pinolo77
It is a really interesting topic. Answered many of my questions and the tech detail, although it is not really my stuff, help explaining...
I would like to know if the upgrade from
version 1.1 to version 2.0 will require a new hardware.
I have chosen to buy a Sony Vaio GRX600 series notebook and would like to buy
card for it.
This because a friend suggested that
2.0 (which will be released soon enough) might make a notebook with in-built obsolete.
Another question is: what is the max speed of
1.1 ?
Will I be able to surf the net at the maximum speed of a DSL connection if using
instead of the cable?
A last question is: Does the
adapter for a printer need any particular installation?
I mean, could i insert the
on my computer and the on the printer serial port and then just start printing or will I have to reinstall all drivers?
I know I have many questions, but Esato is the only place where I might find people able to answer them. No answer on Esato means that actually no answer exists
Esato is really the most useful source of info on the net for
people, and people interested in mobile communication.
Posted by IrDA_FAN
I tested Parrot CR3000 and Funkwerk Blue2000 carkits...
Posted by largepig
Does the t68i support 'Bluetooth BIP Protocol'?
I'm looking for an external camera and have been pointed in the direction of the sony DSC-FX77, which has bluetooth 'BIP' ...?
Just wondering if anyone has any idea if the t68i supports this protocol before i go and waste £400!!
http://www.dabs.com/products/prod-info.asp?quicklinx=25JXKK&refererid=KK
Posted by jorns
@Jan
You seems to rely know alot about BT. I have a qustion, i bought a Microsoft BT mouse ( with their dongle). Is ther any way i can get it to work with my t68 beside using the phone as a modem? It came with no support for network, filetransfer, sync and so on. I have tried to install other BT software, but the sofware will not recognize the Microsoft bluetooth dongle. Is ther any solution so i can use it like i used my MSI-6967?
Posted by floke
@largepig: There's no use in buying the Sony Cam since t68i does NOT support Basic Image Profile BIP.
In fact I read a post saying there are NO other products supporting BIP currently, not even the Sony Vaios or P800!!
Posted by jh67
JORNS > Sorry about the "too late" reply,..I've been abroad.
I dont really know which profiles are supported by the mouse.
For the moment mobilephones, headsets, can only be connected "one to one".
Regards
Jan
Posted by otto
Hi, I have been trying to get an Ericsson T39m to dial the internet from a Toshiba Satellite 1110 + Belkin usb bluetooth dongle... so far the phone dials then 18 seconds later it disconnects ?? If I dial the number manaully on the phone it rings and I can hear the modem at the other end.
I have tryed both virtual COM devices that I found, one for the Belkin software installed and one for the (I assume) Erisson software with no luck. Is there something I am missing? This is my first attempt at bluetooth and it's not a happy one. Has anyone got any advice on this or documents online I can read? Thanks.
Posted by dannycol
Can anyone tell me if there is a way to switch on bluetooth without having to go into control panel, bluetooth, settings etc.. is ther any way the blue internet button can be re configured to switch on/off bluetooth..? Reason is, I use the P800 and HB-60 head set alot and find it a pain having to switch on/off bluetooth everytime i get in and out of the car. As you know leaving bluetooth on all day leaves the battery with not enough power to see you thruogh the day..
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Posted by Draqula
As Bluetooth USB dongles are getting more and more popular I think it would be a good idea to form a list of them. In the list there could be the name of the dongle, and whether it supports:
1) syncing
2) transferring files to and from phone
3) using the phone as a modem
I have searched this forum but many things still remain unclear. If we would have such a list then it would make life easier for many users.
Posted by jpxdude
cheers mate, that stuff looks pretty interesting,...I've heard of a bluetooth radio somewhere, not sure if its a rumour, I've already heard the attachment for the T610, which sounds crisp!
Posted by davio
I bought an MSI BToes dongle for just over £16. The idea was to be able to use it with my camera, but i have found that the BT profile used by the camera (Basic Imaging Profile) is not a common profile, and is only used by my camera and a small handful of mobile phones! In fact, I cannot find a single application I can install to enable me to use my cameras bluetooth functionality with my PC. It seems only the latest Sony Vaio laptops with built in Bluetooth and an application called "Bluespace" are compatible! So, I can send pictures from my camera to a mobile and that's it! Bollocks! Shite!
Posted by asadrizvi7
how can i know if the required add-in in my windows XP is installed ir not?plz help me i m very new at this all.
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Posted by vishal
Hi. I don't know whether this question has been answered or not, but bascially I want to know how can I transfer from my phone to my pc via bluetooth. The option for send via bluetooth is greyed out. Sending from pc to phone is no problem at all. I am from SA and got a Mecer USB bluetooth adaptor. Please can someone help me with this. Thanks in advance.
Posted by GOwin
set your PC's
to discoverable, make sure you don't have any active BT connection ongoing.
from the Phone, just select the item you want to send via BT (theme, picture, etc), and then select send via BT.
Or if you have made a pairing between the PC and your phone, just make sure your PC's BT is on (or discoverable), and send away.
Posted by cthulhu
I have a SE P800 and I want to be able to access the 'net via my desktop running XP Professional. What is the recommended setup for such a task?
I tried an AIPTEK class 1 USB dongle and it was terrible. I guess it was due to the fact that AIPTEKS drivers appear to be flakey. I'm looking at buying a Belkin dongle to replace the crappy AIPTEK one. Any suggestions?
Posted by GOwin
@Hakkenden
search results yielded:
[url=http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=19728&forum=2]Surfing with the P800 using a cable modem?
Posted by Africana
hello everyone...trivia: apparently the chosen colour blue in bluetooth was a given nickname for said damish king. he loved eating blueberries so much so his teeth changed to said colour!! interesting to note the chips are blue! for interesting read: http://www.amigocom.com/News/news1-2-03.pdf
Posted by joecool
Just wanted to say, that although bluetooth can be a pain... when it works.... ITS GREAT!!! I have a tungsten t and i use it to connect to my t68i for internet, also i can use it to connect to the bluetooth on my computer so i acan surf the interent anywhere in the house and its not like a bulky laptop.
Bluetooth is not like wifi, in order to do networking with it, you must have a ppp server. In winxp and win2000 this can be done through windows RAS, in older systems it can be done through a prog called mocha ppp. I hope in the future, they will make a phone that can use this, then you'd be able to have wap and stuff done through the bluetooth.
Posted by Aussie Blue Boy
It would be good to see this thread invigorated, as a general discussion point it's been a good read.
Firstly, my own mixed experience, then potential items of interest...
I am a classic 'mobile warrior' - in sales, on the road, miles from any office: so I've had to create my own.
Originally had an old Gateway notebook running '98 SE and added a Belkin F8T001 dongle to support my T68i.
Eventually got all the configurations right and was wrapped to be able to...
- send pix, sound, sms (print), v-card, v-calender, WAP Bookmarks to my PC simply by pressing 'Send via BT' on the T68.
- drag 'n drop the same onto 'Inbox' in T68 services under My Bluetooth Places and all would appear in my phone.
(The Belkin s/w version even allowed for v-calender entries to be automatically collated straight into Outlook calender!)
Also...
- connect web/pop3 via GPRS/BT on my PC using T68 as modem
- same for fax
Only prob was couldn't get Plantronics M1000 headset to work with PC but understood not a supported profile.
Finally got my much awaited Toshiba Tablet PC (with onboard Bluetooth PCI & Win XP) and things have not been the same since!
Only just got web / fax working but I have to set up a Com port connection manually first - didn't have to do that before with the Belkin. Tried the Belkin as well but no joy at all this time.
I don't have My Bluetooth Places and don't even know if I should (Toshiba has its own BT utility called 'Service Centre')
Can anyone confirm/deny necessity of 'My Bluetooth Places' folders?
Strangely the Toshiba seems to recognise the following T68i services-
- OBEX Object Push
- Fax
- Dial-up Networking
- IrMC Synchronization
- Serial ports 1 & 2
- Voice gateway
...so it seems as if the right profiles are available, although does this mean the Toshiba BT only recognises them as being on the T68i without necessarily supporting them?
My earliest experiences gave me great optimism, but now I feel great frustration as I've seen what's possible.
Re- earlier discussions about using a BT headset profile on a PC...I have an automatic answer - YES PLEASE!
I've been setting up the Voice Recognition s/w in Tablet PC edition and it's fantastic!
I just want to be able to use one headset for both phone calls and alternatively issuing Voice commands to my PC (handy while driving, among other things).
I agree with earlier comments about mobile carriers being scared of 'Cordless' and 'Intercom' profiles, but wouldn't it be great?
My keenest interest apart from the above is actually in seeing whether PC s/w can monitor a mobile phone's comms for CTI functionality (Computer Telephony Integration) via Bluetooth.
Does a prog. like MPM or Mobile Navigator 'read' info from phone via BT without a 'fixed' connection required? (ie. passively)
I've noticed using Mob.Nav. that the BT 'connected' symbol seemed to be ABSENT on the T68i at the time...
Wish list-
- Screen pop from PIM (eg Outlook) based on incoming call ID
- live call record info (eg. time, num. dialled etc) on PC
- call recording or answering machine (even voicemail, auto attendant function) support for mobile by PC
- initiate a call from PC via BT to phone, then have this original BT link dropped automatically (after it's initialised the call) so that the BT headset can take over. (sounds simple, but having no joy)
Sorry about the verbosity- hope it helps others (or perhaps u can help me)
Posted by alanranch
Nobody seems to answer my question regarding about the treo 600 plus BT Card and BT headset. Hope you guys can help me out. Is there a card card for the treo 600 coz I really wanna know if my BT headset can work with a treo 600 with the BT card if evers theres any. Thanks and hope to hear fr you guys soon.
Posted by Cyon
When i try to connect my T610 via Bluetooth to my PC it never brings up any applications to use in conjunction with the transfer - effectively rendering my USB BT adaptor useless... any ideas?
Also can any1 tell me if it is possible to download SMS TXT messages to ur pc via BT??
Cheers
Cyon
Posted by no1bluejacker
I got BELKIN USB adapter for christmas yesterday so i installed it but when i inserted the adaptor into the usb port it didn't start up the new found hardware wizard and thats why i don't think it working. A small box did appear and it said a few things about a new device found then dissapered. everything is normal with the program i think apart from i can't connect to my T610? it doesn't even show up on a search from either my comp or phone. i realy could do with a person 2 person help through MSN or AOL so if any1 wouldn't mind pming me there addy that would be so great! i have all these grat themes and stuff on my comp and want to get it on my phone!!!! lol
thanks for any help any1 cheers
ps i am going to copy this to a couple of threads to see if i get a response quicker sorry if that annoys any1 but i want to get it workin soon as i am going out for boxing day dinner later!
Posted by gaxor
I have a Parrot handsfree in car and Ipaq, phone is a T610. Is it possible to use a dial-up networking connection while the Parrot handsfree is on. If so please explain how
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Posted by Alexdesign
To:cthulhu
Take a look at this address:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3070197934&category=176
I just bought that Bluegene BT-301U adaptor and it works perfectly well with my T610 and T68i.You can do the basic things with it like:
-Dial-up networking
-exchange files between Phone & PC
-browse files on Pc from the phone (T610 only)
-send faxes (T68i only)
-access COM ports for both phones (I have no Idea what use can u
find for this but its in the "available services" menu)
The only thing that's kinda weird is that with a SE phone (at least the ones made in the last few years) you get a CD with software and drivers,and there was a T610 Bluetooth Modem driver on mine but when I install it the PC doesn't find it AT ALL!Otherwise you can still use the software that comes with the adapter to make a dial-up connection but its kinda complicated especially if you use a GPRS connection like me.
To:no1bluejacker & Cyon
You both should have a Software CD supplied with your adapter - check it out.It just wont work either - it's not like the Infrared - just align the phone next to the PC n everything's ok.BTW I've tried the some BELKIN about a few month's ago n I had the same problem - New hardware found>your hardware is installed and ready to use >and then nothing.As I said there should be some software on the CD that came with the adaptor.
BTW I have one question for you people:
Posted by dragon7
hello! i hve a Billionton BT wireless modem wc i use successfully 2 navigate the web using my h1940 ipaq thru BT connection. The fone jack connects directly 2 the modem no need to use a PC.
Now i got me a P800 n i tried 2 use the dial up settings of the P8 to connect to the Billionton BT modem but it wont. i had it paired successfully, but when i use dial up settings the P8 uses its own dialer n dials up the isp directly to connect. it does connect but in our islands this is considered a data call n u get billed per minute of usage. is there ANY way 4 the P8 to dial out using BT modem? thx