Posted by Bonovox
Hello everyone im new here thought it was a good site so i have come on board. Anyway has anyone seen this in Vodafone shops on their pay as you talk service the Nokia 8800Arte going for £1000. Crazy or what i would not pay that sort of money for that rubbish. Looks nice but thats about it. For £700 less you can get the great SonyEricsson W890 on Vodafone. Need i say more. Im big SE fan by the way but currently stuck with a Nokia. Soon looking to upgrade.
Posted by technical-expert
If u like w890i go on, but please do not compare with Nokia 8800 Arte , Nokia arte is touch of class premium, if u hold one in ur hand u will know.
Posted by Bonovox
Yes it is nice to look at but it has nothing new to it in terms of features its only the casing thats all. Its not worth that money unless you got it to waste.
Posted by EMS06
@Bonovox
welcome mate!
Yes,
I have to agree
with
you that in terms
of
what you get the
w890 is way better
than the arte,
unfortunately with
the arte you paying
for style and
craftsmanship. The
nokia says 'look at
me I'm more into
style than features
plus I don't mind
paying for it'. It
(arte) is a
magnificent phone
but I wouldn't shell
out that much
money unless it
was
a smartphone.
_______________
__
GH688, MC 6000
DeskTop Charger,
R320s,
R600s.
P910i.
Motorola v8.
[ This Message was edited by: EMS06 on 2008-04-13 16:48 ]
Posted by Bonovox
W890 has good build quality too. I used to own the first 8800 when it first came out the feel was nothing special to me.
Posted by vladn02
get a Vertu with some diamonds and hand built quality
had a chance to check one out $30000 phone and if you got the money for it, your one lucky sob 
phone it self is nothing to special in features but the build quality is AMAZING!
Posted by bearcub24
The Arte is seriously over price but is targetted at a niche market, the SE W 890i is more of a mainstream product, the quality if the Arte surpasses that of the SE W890i (and so it should for that price), but even if I'd got that kind of money to throw at a phone I'd opt for the SE W890i.
Posted by bearcub24
Still got the original Nokia 8800 in the "special edition" gunmetal grey, still boxed just as new, mine feels well built and the slide action is rock solid,, I'm very fussy about quality but this phone is top notch, but feature wise its the pits, got bored with it within a week, but decided it was a "keeper".
Posted by EMS06
Speaking of style I
opted for the moto
v8 which makes
me wonder what
differences there
are between these
two in terms of
build quality. I
mean the moto is
cheap but built
beautifully and
solidly.
Posted by bearcub24
Yes I agree the Moto V8 is a beautifully crafted handset, not keen on Motorola's but if I were to get one it would be the V8.
Posted by QVGA
On 2008-04-13 16:58:00, Bonovox wrote:
Hello everyone im new here thought it was a good site so i have come on board. Anyway has anyone seen this in Vodafone shops on their pay as you talk service the Nokia 8800Arte going for £1000. Crazy or what i would not pay that sort of money for that rubbish. Looks nice but thats about it. For £700 less you can get the great SonyEricsson W890 on Vodafone. Need i say more. Im big SE fan by the way but currently stuck with a Nokia. Soon looking to upgrade.
Thats an expected reply from someone who doesnt have the money to afford an expensive phone. I know thats true, you know thats true, so dont argue.
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-04-13 21:32:27, QVGA wrote:
On 2008-04-13 16:58:00, Bonovox wrote:
Hello everyone im new here thought it was a good site so i have come on board. Anyway has anyone seen this in Vodafone shops on their pay as you talk service the Nokia 8800Arte going for £1000. Crazy or what i would not pay that sort of money for that rubbish. Looks nice but thats about it. For £700 less you can get the great SonyEricsson W890 on Vodafone. Need i say more. Im big SE fan by the way but currently stuck with a Nokia. Soon looking to upgrade.
Thats an expected reply from someone who doesnt have the money to afford an expensive phone. I know thats true, you know thats true, so dont argue.
What's wrong with you?
Posted by Bonovox
I could afford it if i wanted to im on a decent wage where i work.
Posted by BobaFett
the list pric of the operators are usually very high, just ask them, how much would cost any model or full price
Posted by Daedalus85
On 2008-04-13 21:32:27, QVGA wrote:
Thats an expected reply from someone who doesnt have the money to afford an expensive phone. I know thats true, you know thats true, so dont argue.
And THATS the kind of reply I expect from somebody who has a great deal more money than common sense, and would rather purchase a stupidly expensive phone such as the one in question to hide behind so people can't see who he really is.
Grow up and don't say such spiteful things by jumping to conclusions.
I doubt very, very much that most people would say such a thing out of jelousy, whenever I've discussed Vertus and 8800's to people who don't want/can't afford one, they've never expressed an interest in having one, simply showed their distaste at even the thought of spending that much money on a worthless item.
Posted by Marly
Anyways, £1000 is ridiculous for a Nokia 8800 arte, in my country (Netherlands) phones are a bit more expensive, than in the UK and I know a webshop here, which sells them for 799 euros (£639), new phones, with two years warranty.
Posted by Miss UK
It's listed from £649.99 upwards on the net Sim Free,
Amazon have them under from Buyers,
has anyone got one of these handsets ?
does look nice but i'd never have a right mind to buy one
Posted by QVGA
On 2008-04-13 23:09:39, Daedalus85 wrote:
On 2008-04-13 21:32:27, QVGA wrote:
Thats an expected reply from someone who doesnt have the money to afford an expensive phone. I know thats true, you know thats true, so dont argue.
whenever I've discussed Vertus and 8800's to people who don't want/can't afford one, they've never expressed an interest in having one, simply showed their distaste at even the thought of spending that much money on a worthless item.
You're too naive. Dont you get it why they hate it? Because they cant afford it! Better to find faults in something you cant get rather than to be jealous, thats their motto.
Why dont you show me one celebrity who either owns a SE W890 or a Nokia N95? 8800 Arte was not made for people who dont have 1200$ for a cellphone, it was made for those who can afford it.
And lets talk worth shall we. Why dont you go to your local dealer and find out the price of a synthetic sapphire and leather imported from Western India, both which were used in the 8800 and then come up with a price of a phone. Then we'll know whether its worth it or not.
Posted by NightBlade
Yes, QVGA, we already know you missed the point. No need to nag about it.
Posted by Daedalus85
I bed to differ. I did not miss your point, I chose to ignore it alltogether as its false.
If somebody ever bought me one of these, I'd either suggest they take it back and I'll have the money instead, or I'd just sell it. I wouldn't want one of these disgusting things in my hands thank you very much.
I imagine yes if most people were given them they wouldnt say no, but they wouldnt go out of their way to buy one.
It's like when some tit drives past in a 'blinged' out BMW or whatever kids like these days, most grown ups, not those with a mental age of 6, would tut and shake their head.
Posted by QVGA
On 2008-04-14 09:03:29, Daedalus85 wrote:
I bed to differ. I did not miss your point, I chose to ignore it alltogether as its false.
If somebody ever bought me one of these, I'd either suggest they take it back and I'll have the money instead, or I'd just sell it. I wouldn't want one of these disgusting things in my hands thank you very much.
I imagine yes if most people were given them they wouldnt say no, but they wouldnt go out of their way to buy one.
It's like when some tit drives past in a 'blinged' out BMW or whatever kids like these days, most grown ups, not those with a mental age of 6, would tut and shake their head.
See, you reinforced my point again. You'd rather have money, or rather sell it and then have the money. You're after the money. I mentioned it before this isnt a phone for those who are after money, this is for those who have a lot of money to spare.
Secondly, YOU think its disgusting, not me and not many other people too. Thats subjective so no point in discussing that. Some people want expensive top of the line stuff, like a designer shirt or suit. Now you're going to dis the entire idea of designer ware?
Posted by NightBlade
Anywho, the price is still not OK. And that keypad looks like a pain in the a** (or rather figners) to type with.
Also, I think the W890 looks better. Sure, the 8800 has a plainer design but the W890 is more stylish, IMO. Not saying it's a bad phone, though.
[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2008-04-14 08:30 ]
Posted by QVGA
Well i have not used the W890 but i did use the 8800 sirocco which has a similar keypad to Arte and honestly there was nothing wrong with it.
And maybe the W890 is better, thats not the point. The point is that 8800 is for those people who like designer ware clothes. Think of 8800 as a designer ware of mobile phones. Those kind of clothes look like a total waste of money to an average customer, but i bet if you had 1000 pounds to spend ONLY on clothes, you'd go for an armani or Valentino etc
Posted by NightBlade
Yes, but I wouldn't go for an Arte. 'Tis different, you know.
Posted by >500
if i had a 1000 pounds to spend on clothes, i defo wouldnt go for a brand label and only get one or 2 things.
id buy a number of things, couple tshirts, jeans, jumpers, id be much happier that way
Posted by technical-expert
On 2008-04-14 09:47:34, >500 wrote:
if i had a 1000 pounds to spend on clothes, i defo wouldnt go for a brand label and only get one or 2 things.
id buy a number of things, couple tshirts, jeans, jumpers, id be much happier that way
Why not get a two chinese phones instead of getting a Sony ericsson.buy number of things.
Nokia Arte is for Premium people who know nothing about technology and Prefer premium phones and do not want a Nokia 1100 or Nokia N95 to make a call as both are useless to them, and they cannot be middling with Small end and back keys squeezing there hands and keypads of w890i.And the Se's Stupid fat port connector which is placed at stupid place.And the laggy a200 platform.
[ This Message was edited by: technical-expert on 2008-04-14 09:08 ]
Posted by >500
coz u dont get the same quality in a chinese handset, do you now.
but with clothes i can spend much less than armani etc, but at the same time, i get the same quality. instead of buying armani jeans, ill buy g-star for example, a lot cheaper, but very good quality. the pair i have now have lasted quite a while
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-04-14 10:07:19, technical-expert wrote:
Nokia Arte is for Premium people who know nothing about technology and Prefer premium phones and do not want a Nokia 1100 or Nokia N95 to make a call as both are useless to them
Still, the price is unreasonable.
Posted by technical-expert
On 2008-04-14 10:11:14, >500 wrote:
coz u dont get the same quality in a chinese handset, do you now.
Than answer is the same, u dont get same quality as Nokia arte with any another phone
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-04-14 10:45:54, technical-expert wrote:
On 2008-04-14 10:11:14, >500 wrote:
coz u dont get the same quality in a chinese handset, do you now.
Than answer is the same, u dont get same quality as Nokia arte with any another phone
That sounds a bit far-fetched...
Posted by Bonovox
I am on a good wage in my job but i care nothing for designer gear. Why cos i just dont i think wearing clothes to me look just as good bought from your regular high street shop. And that Arte phone well i cant stand the design either and why oh why does anyone need a sapphire on a mobile talk about MUG ME written all over you. Its not born out of jealousy i could get one of these phones on my wage within a couple of months saving but its just not worth the money. People who buy this rubbish are just show offs who think that having a flash car or phone is going to get them somewhere in life. IT AINT. Oh and when you buy the bloody thing it will probably still have software problems. Lol.
Posted by >500
@technical-'''expert'''
i dont think your user name suits.........
not one other phone has the quality as the 8800?.............. hmmmmmmm...... ok..............
Posted by QVGA
On 2008-04-14 10:57:15, >500 wrote:
@technical-'''expert'''
i dont think your user name suits.........
not one other phone has the quality as the 8800?.............. hmmmmmmm...... ok..............
what he meant was not many phones have the same built quality and the type of materials used as 8800.
but like i said before, if someone can debunk this '8800 is overpriced' theory then go ahead. go find out how much synthetic sapphires, leather from india, scratch resistant glass and whatever thats used to make 8800 costs.
Posted by dentoters07
QVGA is actually correct.. the phone is for people who does not think about the money they are spending because they have a lot to spare. this is not a question of functionality, its a matter of design and built. most of us think it's not worth it because the first thing that comes into our mind is the price. for people who can afford/can throw cash, they will "see",not think, of the design and quality. they dont care about functionality. they have their other "toys" for that.. 'tis mho only..
Posted by Fanofmodi
@technical-expera. Who do u think u man? To me it seems ur a die hard nokia SALESMAN, i suggest u to change yr name as sales expert. In each and every thread ur forcing people to buy N82, not everyone can afford.
Posted by Daedalus85
DON'T get me started on designer gear QVGA...
It's the lifestyle/personality that goes with it, and it bleeds PURE arrogence.
Posted by C905
On 2008-04-13 21:32:27, QVGA wrote:
On 2008-04-13 16:58:00, Bonovox wrote:
Hello everyone im new here thought it was a good site so i have come on board. Anyway has anyone seen this in Vodafone shops on their pay as you talk service the Nokia 8800Arte going for £1000. Crazy or what i would not pay that sort of money for that rubbish. Looks nice but thats about it. For £700 less you can get the great SonyEricsson W890 on Vodafone. Need i say more. Im big SE fan by the way but currently stuck with a Nokia. Soon looking to upgrade.
Thats an expected reply from someone who doesnt have the money to afford an expensive phone. I know thats true, you know thats true, so dont argue.
i remember that you once said in a thread, that the reason you don't buy a SE is because you want a "cheap smartphone" so i think you are the one who can't afford an expensive phone
[ This Message was edited by: k850 successor on 2008-04-14 18:44 ]
Posted by kenoby
On 2008-04-13 21:32:27, QVGA wrote:
On 2008-04-13 16:58:00, Bonovox wrote:
Hello everyone im new here thought it was a good site so i have come on board. Anyway has anyone seen this in Vodafone shops on their pay as you talk service the Nokia 8800Arte going for £1000. Crazy or what i would not pay that sort of money for that rubbish. Looks nice but thats about it. For £700 less you can get the great SonyEricsson W890 on Vodafone. Need i say more. Im big SE fan by the way but currently stuck with a Nokia. Soon looking to upgrade.
Thats an expected reply from someone who doesnt have the money to afford an expensive phone. I know thats true, you know thats true, so dont argue.
I admire you sometimes....
I ask anyone here, if you have 150E for B&O headphones, would you buy it?
Or, if you have enough money to not be bothered much, would you buy a middle-high class car of your preference? You would, cause it is not about money or proving something to someone (it shouldn't be, if you are normal person) it is about fact that you can and you like. Whatever you say now, it is only your point of view and you can not view it from another because you stand on yours. My point is, if you do not have, you will express it in a way that some of you did, but if you will come in the situation where your individual standard is financially relaxed you will buy what you like and when you like, because you can. And it is not about arrogance, but about the generic human nature.
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Posted by adnansanni
I think this thread about quality of phone not who can afford or not. Actually arte is for who has lots of money and doesn’t care about function. You know there are lots of people like that. If you care about function then Nokia has another option like E90 or go to other brands. Every people have his/her own choice so branded company try to produce every range of phone example Nokia 1200 to Arte.
May be I can’t afford Arte right now but If I want then I can manage within 2/3 months so I think another people also can do that.
Some time design is matter than function that’s why I got moto V8 because I don’t want Smartphone function from it. I just want a glossy stylish look from it so I bought it. So there are many people who also same wanted to Arte. Everyone know that iPhone functions are outdated but that’s not mean that phone is crap.
The bottom line is every people have their own choice and that’s why there are still can be find many range of phone. What you need just go for it and not need to argue about others one. You can complain when you see that the company doesn’t give quality that they promise on that range.
Posted by Bonovox
NO NO NO I STARTED THIS THREAD COS I THINK ITS A WASTE OF MONEY. I would not buy it if i had the money. If i had £1,000 i would buy a nice SonyEricsson W890i and save the rest of my money. THATS THE BOTTOM LINE FOR ME I DONT LIKE THE PHONE. ITS PANTS.
Posted by arien617
I'm actually going with QVGA on this one...
Not the whole thing about "you're complaining because you can't afford it", but if you've got the money, why not?
Seriously, if you were a millionaire, would you go about in an Audi A3 or R8?
Would you live in a flat in Edmonton or a penthouse apartment overlooking the Thames?
Come on people. The Arte is for those who can afford it, if you can't, buy something else. Not saying I've got a grand to blow on a phone, as I don't, but if I did have that kind of money to spend on just a phone, I'd go for it.
Posted by Mizzle
On 2008-04-14 09:41:46, QVGA wrote:
The point is that 8800 is for those people who like designer ware clothes. Think of 8800 as a designer ware of mobile phones. Those kind of clothes look like a total waste of money to an average customer, but i bet if you had 1000 pounds to spend ONLY on clothes, you'd go for an armani or Valentino etc
Oh yeah, those I call slight retards / technology idiots, i.e. my mum
He'd rather pick out a phone or a laptop based on its looks rather than its specs, and after having purchased it, she'd then complain about its lack of specs
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-04-14 23:44:59, Mizzle wrote:
On 2008-04-14 09:41:46, QVGA wrote:
The point is that 8800 is for those people who like designer ware clothes. Think of 8800 as a designer ware of mobile phones. Those kind of clothes look like a total waste of money to an average customer, but i bet if you had 1000 pounds to spend ONLY on clothes, you'd go for an armani or Valentino etc
Oh yeah, those I call slight retards / technology idiots, i.e. my mum
He'd rather pick out a phone or a laptop based on its looks rather than its specs, and after having purchased it, she'd then complain about its lack of specs
Tisk, tisk, Mizzle. You shouldn't be talking like that about your mum on the Internet, ok? 'Tis not polite.
Posted by adnansanni
@Bonovox if you have £1,000 then we sure that you won't go for that. but think about when you have £100000000+(may be more zero) then what will you do? I'm sure you'll buy both of them arte and W890i. And after that if you don’t like the arte may be you just left it on your home not even bother to sell that.
But point is you’ll buy (people did, do, will). thats why 8800 has many edition.
Posted by Bonovox
Yes i see your point but i dont like the phone itself its nothing special to me. I had a look at a working model in a shop and i seriously thought nothing of it. Its S**T!! ITS NOT WORTH THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
Posted by adnansanni
Honestly also I don’t find any reason to like the phone myself and it’s nothing special to me either. Moto V8 looks cool than arte to me if we talk about through design.
Posted by QVGA
On 2008-04-15 00:33:00, Bonovox wrote:
Yes i see your point but i dont like the phone itself its nothing special to me. I had a look at a working model in a shop and i seriously thought nothing of it. Its S**T!! ITS NOT WORTH THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
You keep on saying that but not once did you mention why it isnt worth that much amount of money? I bet you just saw that it has a crappy camera, small screen and not much going on for it technology wise.
Posted by kenoby
On 2008-04-14 23:44:59, Mizzle wrote:
On 2008-04-14 09:41:46, QVGA wrote:
The point is that 8800 is for those people who like designer ware clothes. Think of 8800 as a designer ware of mobile phones. Those kind of clothes look like a total waste of money to an average customer, but i bet if you had 1000 pounds to spend ONLY on clothes, you'd go for an armani or Valentino etc
Oh yeah, those I call slight retards / technology idiots, i.e. my mum
He'd rather pick out a phone or a laptop based on its looks rather than its specs, and after having purchased it, she'd then complain about its lack of specs
Persistently and ignorantly you take the right to insult.
As for me, I based my purchase of laptop and phone on the looks. What I got is "self-decisive" K850i and "performance-optimizing" P1i. Sony Vaio laptop and Sony Ericsson, if I put them together, they might work at 100%
Talking about freedom of speech....
Posted by Bonovox
So a phone is worth that money just cos it has premium build quality. Not justified.
Posted by carkitter
I don't like the Nokia Arte, nor the 8800 range or Nokia's L'Amour range. I don't think Nokia does "Design Phones' at all well. Give me a T650 over any of the above, anyday! The new W980 will blow this Nokia Arte out of the water in terms of style and WOW! factor.
If I had $$$,$$$,$$$ I'd buy the entire
range including thier back catalogue and display them all in a separate room in my 'mansion'
And if you look around, you'll find most celeb's use Blackberrys because of the email client. The Vertu's only come out at Media events...