Posted by @ftyk
@dogmann,
when i am getting off a plane i'd like to swap sim cards the conventional way without feeling handicapped just because i don't have a paper clip.
how come apple did not include a paper clip with the accessories in the box?
the manufacturer is supposed to provide in the box everything needed to make the phone ready to make a call.
apple should put a sticker on the box of the i phone saying "paper clip not provided".
if anyone is planning on gifting an i phone to the lady, skip the rose & instead get hold of a paper clip.
i personally don't see any point of bluetooth if i can't exchange data via bluetooth.
i guess that's why they call apple the forbidden fruit.
why was the i phone unsuitable for you?
Posted by Dogmann
@fytk
Well as is said the changing Sim cards was not a factor for me neither was the lack of Bluetooth functionality as i only use it for a handsfree Headset. I don't do SMS's if i can help it and have never sent an MMS either so neither of those mattered to me either.
The simple reason was i just couldn't get used to using a Touch screen again and found it slow and annoying compared to a full qwerty. I also really missed my large 4" screen, take a look at my E90 V200 review for some screen shots of just how much and how clear the information is displayed in the Web browser and other apps.
The iPhone is a very well built quality device and if it offers what some one wants then is perfect for them. But even the Touch S60 UI is not really of any interest to me as i just prefer non touch screen devices now and will find it hard to downsize to any device with a smaller screen then my E90's.
Which is why currently there is nothing that has my attention either released or coming soon and it looks like my E90 will last me until it's replacement arrives especially as this last firmware has really improved it's performance yet again.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-05-07 19:49 ]
Posted by @ftyk
@dogmann,
you did find the i phone's stupid kinetic srolling slower than the e90's qwerty keyboard.
you are aware that the i phone does have sms & mms issues on various networks.
you do agree that it is practically impossible to swap sim cards in an i phone without a pin/paper clip.
you are aware that with the i phone you cannot send data via bluetooth.
you did get rid of the i phone & buy an e90.
what i understand is that the i phone can't do what some low end series 40 phones can do with ease.
i think the i phone is just an over hyped flop.
Posted by shanespencer
Isn't this thread supposed to be about Nokia's phone?
Posted by deepsme
iPhone killer could be named iPerformer..
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Posted by masseur
I would be *very* surprised to see Nokia name any product to start with an "i" like this
Posted by @ftyk
it would be a 1st if nokia gave the phone an actual name.
nokia prefers giving the phone an alphanumeric identity.
Posted by masseur
Nokia firms up touchscreen phone plans
Posted by EMS06
"Volume market" and mid-market. It seems Nokia is testing the waters first or they're not quite ready with their touchscreen UI.
Posted by nettl
On 2008-07-17 16:59:22, EMS06 wrote:
"Volume market" and mid-market. It seems Nokia is testing the waters first or they're not quite ready with their touchscreen UI.
Actually, I'd say it's the opposite. You don't offer something that's not quite ready or "test the waters" in a volume market, to lots of clueless people. Makes no sense.
If they wanted to test experimental stuff, they'd do some crazy high-end device that would appeal only to people that like experimental stuff and collect their feedback to polish the UI for the mass-market afterwards...
Posted by EMS06
Obviously this is unchattered territory for Nokia and this will be a way for them to gauge the consumers' reaction to their first main stream touch UI.
They tried it some years back but not on this huge scale so they are wary of it not being well received.
Also I have doubts that it is completely ready. This is where feedback will benefit them for their onslaught on the most impressive touch UI in the business- the iphone.
Posted by Bonovox
Nokia despite strong competition over the years still remains at the top. Why? Because they know the market and produce quality phones with the top features customers want. For gods sake Apple cant even do pictures messages and still put in a 2 mega pixel camera. Is every Apple phone going to look and be the same over the coming years with only 1 phone out on one network. Its not enough for them to over take Nokia or SE by just doing that. Why cant they release more phones for other markets that way perhaps they would have more respect. I bet Nokia is not even worried. Your average phone buyer is not going to buy the iphone so its hardly going to put everyone else out of the picture. I bet Nokia is going to put high end features in this phone that iphone cant even do. Yes iphone looks nice with the screen and interface but its hardly the only reason to buy it. I also hate the way you cant take out the battery of the iphone. At the end of the day its over hyped as i have played with one and i have found it does nothing new. Nokia and SE know more about phones than Apple. And the iphone was never completly bug free.
Posted by fatreg
On 2008-05-07 12:48:48, @ftyk wrote:
what about the sim card slot on the i phone which can't be accessed unless you have a pin/something?
are you really that naive?
Nokia did it first.................
The 7280 needed a special tool to open the sim tray.....
Posted by EMS06
@Bonovox
I'm glad you had a chance to play with the iphone cause you would know that it is nothing special but its touch UI is. I don't like the iphone and never will, as long as it is basic, but they have done something that SE and other manufacturers with touchscreen technology have never been able to do,ie, come up with the best touch UI so far.
Unfortunately every touch UI is going to be judged based on the iphone which tells you how far ahead the iphone's UI is. We should criticise where there're glaring inadequacies but we must also appreciate and give credit where it is due.
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Posted by Prom1
On 2008-07-18 22:59:25, EMS06 wrote:
@Bonovox
I'm glad you had a chance to play with the iphone cause you would know that it is nothing special but its touch UI is. I don't like the iphone and never will, as long as it is basic, but they have done something that SE and other manufacturers with touchscreen technology have never been able to do,ie, come up with the best touch UI so far.
Unfortunately every touch UI is going to be judged based on the iphone which tells you how far ahead the iphone's UI is. We should criticise where there're glaring inadequacies but we must also appreciate and give credit where it is due.
[ This Message was edited by: EMS06 on 2008-07-18 22:01 ]
Sorry but I cannot agree with you on every touch UI based on iPhone. Nokia has some VERY significantly interesting and appliable patents in regards to their upcoming touch GUI. Gestures is going to be SOOO cool - give an incoming call with photo ID the bird (hey its the wife nagging you going out with the boys just being hooligans, lol). Actually my wife stopped - she's so hot I love her to pieces.
Posted by Bonovox
Yes i agree with the interface but thats the only real thing that makes it stand out from anything else. All the rest is nothing new or that amazing and has been done a million time already by other manufacturers only better. I actually think its quite big too in its size. Anyway i still dont think they are about to over take Nokia with just one phone on the market restricted to one network. I also think its pathetic in the way they conduct it all where you have to go online to activate the phone and they charge rip off prices on expensive contracts. People must be mugs to pay for that. I was all for the iphone before but not now.
Posted by EMS06
@Prom1
What I'm saying is that the iphone has set a standard that other manufacturers have to better in terms of their own touch UI. I don't think it is implausible to think that the next devices from other manufacturers won't beat the iphone's, they will eventually surpass it but right now I would say it is the best touch UI available.
@Bonovox
Nokia is sitting pretty at the top, it is not even threatened by the number 2 manufacturer Samsung. I don't see any manufacturer dethroning Nokia now or in the next 6 years. Only Nokia can mess up thus allowing the other manufacturers to catch up which I doubt they would do. So, the iphone is not close to Nokia in any way whatsoever.
Posted by deepsme
I've just come from watching the dark knight(amazing movie btw)..and i'm pretty sure i saw a nokia touchscreen device being used by christian bale...it had a very iphone kind of design...but Nokia was written above the screen..batman uses finger touch to do some stuff in the device...and it looked rather neat and cool...so those going to watch the flick be on the lookout for it...
Posted by masseur
it would seem so...
Screen Grabs: Nokia's XpressMedia 5800 "Tube" plays big role in The Dark Knight
Posted by gola
More reason to believe that Nokia truly is the dark side...
Posted by deepsme
erm...it wasn't entirely like the 5800 xpressmedia...the design was the same...but the buttons were different...it had the traditional call and end buttons...unlike the leaked prototype..
maybe it was the final version of the phone...
or maybe it was some other touchscreen nokia...
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Posted by Residentevil
Gimme a touch screen and I am happy.
Posted by deepsme
First S60 Touch screenshots...
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