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Nokia confirms 'iPhone killer' handset in pipeline


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Posted by jcwhite_uk
Nokia has confirmed that it’s developing a touchscreen-equipped handset to take on the Apple iPhone, and has shown off pictures of the upcoming phone to drooling onlookers.

The Finnish giant’s handset is codenamed 'Tube', and Tom Libretto, VP of Forum Nokia, said the device will be the company’s “first touch device”.

Libretto remained unsurprisingly coy about the full array of features the Tube will offer. Aside from confirming that the Nokia handset will be entirely touch operated, he added that it will also support Java – something which the iPhone doesn’t yet officially support - and will allow photos to be uploaded to the web.

Given the codename, it's fair to suggest Nokia sees it as a mobile video platform. And with the DVB-H mobile digital TV standard now starting to gain momentum, Tube will probably be a handheld telly too.

Several pictures of the handset have already appeared online, which were taken from a Nokia presentation given at a recent Evans Data developer conference held in California. The device looks like the iPhone’s long lost twin, except for a Nokia logo stuck underneath the handset’s earpiece. The Tube’s display doesn’t look as wide as the iPhone’s, but appearances can be deceptive. Nokia's design also lacks the iPhone's 'home' button.

Unconfirmed reports suggest Nokia's would-be iPhone killer will run on the Symbian S60 platform.

Nokia hasn't said when the Tube will be available, or how much it will cost.



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Posted by masseur

Unconfirmed reports suggest Nokia's would-be iPhone killer will run on the Symbian S60 platform.


presumably S60 Touch

I'll be interested to see more of this

Posted by Miss UK
Nice 1, lol i'll buy it cos Nokia are number 1 at the end of the day, and besides ive lost interest in Sony stuff, nothing there showing its consumers is hands on is it!

Posted by djin
is this the actual desgin?? cuz its not that impressive comparing to iphone. Hope it gets a makeover.

Posted by Miss UK
I think Nokia will add a decent camera to this and a few more Gimondo's that will kick the iPhone back to America whre it belongs

I hope Vodafone get this FIRST cos 02 need a kick up da A$$ after what they have done to people wanting that metal polished thing

Posted by belialwafu
what do you think is the name...is it N series or new ones?

Posted by Miss UK
Tube ? then maybe Y Series "YouTube" lol

iPhone, Y-ourPhone lol

Posted by technical-expert

On 2008-04-09 03:26:28, belialwafu wrote:
what do you think is the name...is it N series or new ones?



will most probably be a 9xxx or 4xxx.

Posted by QVGA

On 2008-04-09 03:43:49, technical-expert wrote:

On 2008-04-09 03:26:28, belialwafu wrote:
what do you think is the name...is it N series or new ones?



will most probably be a 9xxx or 4xxx.


Wont be a 4XXX as nokia doesnt use that no.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I'd say T for touch.

Posted by belialwafu

On 2008-04-09 07:24:50, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
I'd say T for touch.


yeah maybe. got a point there

Posted by razec

On 2008-04-09 07:24:50, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
I'd say T for touch.



I guess it will be based on 7xxx series, remember the 7700, 7710

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Yeah but it could be a new series like the N series was: N95, N73, N81 etc. So maybe they could start the T series and have the T80, and so on.

Posted by Davo_169
what ever happened to real names for products..it works for cars..
how about the nokia cougar or the more finnish nokia herring!

Posted by masseur
a bit more on this



Posted by djin
i think it wud be the n series cuz n series is all about see new, hear new and something new.
So this phone is actually something really new to see and hear..

Posted by bavlondon2

On 2008-04-09 09:08:10, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
Yeah but it could be a new series like the N series was: N95, N73, N81 etc. So maybe they could start the T series and have the T80, and so on.



Its the 5800 and some of the specs are 3.2mpx AF cam, GPS, WIFI, geotagging. 3 - 3.5 inch screen, 3.5mm jack.

I think this alone will be able to match X1 but this isnt even the s60 touch flagship phone. That will come later.

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Posted by Miss UK
When is this rumoured to be out then

Posted by 701
Do you really think Nokia would go that far in order to compete iPhone?Nokia is a giant and achives success no matter what thy launch. http://juvo.weblog.ro/2008-04-10/339773/Nokia-to-compete-%28%3F%21%21%29-with-iPhone%3F.html

Posted by technical-expert
Some information abt this phone

5800 tube
touchscreen with finger based navigation.
S60 5th edition
3.2" display with 16m color.
3.2 mpx camera with autofocus.
Wifi, GPS and 3.5mm jack.
111 x 52 x 14.5 mm
104g
haptic feedback.


Posted by bavlondon2
Also worth noting that S60 5th edition is backwards compatible and it also allows for geotagging.

Posted by BobaFett
The XpressMedia Nokia 5800 in a clearer picture



http://www.slashphone.com/the[....]800-in-a-clearer-picture-09154

Posted by djin
its officially announced??

Posted by BobaFett
no, nokia just showed it, its still under development ( read first post )

Posted by apolloa
Nokia and SE can easily kill the iphone as the iPhone is only available on O2 for 5 years!! The simple fact you can easily get the SE or Nokia iPhone equivalent on any network means the iPhone will never succeed as they can cost far less. £279 plus contract, no thanks. Nokia Tube on my network of choice for say £50 plus contract, yes please. Even though I shall be getting the G900 next.

Posted by nicv27
info from stuff .tv
Pros Feature-packed, HSDPA, Nokia smarts
Cons Not available until 2009

PREVIEW Nokia's much-touted touchscreen phone has been the subject of wild web rumour and speculation since August last year, but it looks as if the iPhone-botherer is closer to reality than we thought.

Since the iPhone set the world alight, there hasn't been a worthy contender to its throne – the LG Viewty's touchscreen leaves a lot to be desired and the HTC Touch's TouchFlo is limited to certain screens.

It was always going to take a manufacturer with unrivalled handset experience and arguably the best interfaces in the land to take the battle to Apple – step forward the Nokia Tube.

So what will the Nokia Tube offer us? Well, it'll come packing Symbian’s S60 Touch, as predicted. The 16:9 screen will be bigger than the 3in offering on the iPhone, but this won’t be the complete rival to Apple we’ve all ben hoping for. That’s coming soon after the Tube’s launch, apparently.

We’re not looking at an N–series phone just yet, rather an ‘Xpress Media’ release which will sit alongside the Xpress Music cells released last year. A higher-specced N-Series will probably be released later next year.

Features–wise, the Tube is certainly more stacked than the current non-3G iPhone. There'll be EDGE, GPRS, HSDPA, WLAN, Bluetooth and GPS. The screen however, won’t be multitouch, but rather the haptic approach favoured by Samsung.

If you want one, you’re going to have to wait until Q1 2009, which should place around the time of next year’s Mobile World Congress.




Posted by bavlondon2

On 2008-04-13 03:09:41, apolloa wrote:
Nokia and SE can easily kill the iphone as the iPhone is only available on O2 for 5 years!! The simple fact you can easily get the SE or Nokia iPhone equivalent on any network means the iPhone will never succeed as they can cost far less. £279 plus contract, no thanks. Nokia Tube on my network of choice for say £50 plus contract, yes please. Even though I shall be getting the G900 next.


You make it sound so easy and yet in reality its not. Apple have acheived what Nokia/SE have not been able to so far. Create a stable well built phone with perfect interface and literally no bugs. Nokia and SE fans on the other hand are always asking when is the next fw out?

I doubt Nokia will even match iphones interface in terms of usability until their 3rd touch screen phone. Tube isnt even meant to be their touch screen flahship so its not worth getting that excited about.

Posted by 701
That's what I was sayin' above. Of all there is, quality is the answer to all troubles. And Nokia and SE didn't learn their lesson and their phones seem buggier than ever!

Posted by badassmam
iPhone set a new standard so I'm happy that Nokia are making something similar since they realise what a good idea iPhone is. The Tube specs are excellent plus 3.5mm jack (one up on SE). My source tells me that the Tube is nothing compared to their upcoming phones. SE maybe in for a shock since they spend most of their efforts on average phones and recycling. Whats so difficult in putting in a 3.5mm jack?

Posted by Dogmann
Hi all

Well to me where this device is aimed makes perfect sense as i have said previously the smart phone is now being aimed far more for Multimedia use the days of the smart phone being primarily for Business users is over IMO.

I must say for their first device it seems to tick all the right boxes just over 100 grams, large screen, 3.5m jack, HSDPA for fast Data downloads or streaming. The only thing left to see now is it's price and when it is available, but there are many that are already at home with S60 and the apps they use and like that will IMO go for this over even the 3G iPhone.

Marc

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Posted by Miss UK
Very good specs,
as Dogmanns suggests the price lol

2009 so the N97 or N98 could possibley have a touchscreen then?
woah that would be brilliant im not planning on getting rid of my N95-2 for atleast 2 years anyway so atleast the market will have some good devices arounf then

Posted by bavlondon2
It will be interesting to see what processor it uses. Nomadik or OMAP 3rd ge? Probably ST but lets wait and see.

Posted by mib1800
@bavlandon:

Apple have acheived what Nokia/SE have not been able to so far. Create a stable well built phone with perfect interface and literally no bugs.


That's because the Iphone is so BARE of functions that there is much less possibility of things going wrong.

Let's wait (maybe for years ) for Apple to put in all the basic stuff (that every phone has) which Apple left out from the Iphone. Then you come back and talk.



Posted by bavlondon2
True they are lacking in some basic features (trust me no one has kicked up more of a fuss about the lack of video capture than me) but at the same time they have produced a hadnset with an interface that no one else has been able to match. We can only assume that future iterations of iphone will house more features but the question is can Nokia match iphone for what it does?

Posted by Dups!
I'm sure apple has received a lot of feedback (both positive and negative) and are also looking at new developments in the cellphone market. The point here is the iphone, for a first attempt, has given us a greater insight into what the next iteration is likely to have. I'd be concerned if I were the major manufacturers.

Posted by mib1800
@bav

but at the same time they have produced a hadnset with an interface that no one else has been able to match.


correction...they have produced a UI with the best eye candy. In terms of usability it is downright pathetic - no contact search, no copy-paste, no file system, no T9 virtual keypad, no task manager, no sms forward...and the list goes on and on.. What the heck is Apple thinking...



Posted by bavlondon2
Contact search is coming in v2.0. And ok no SMS forwarding is a pain but I can honestly say I have never used that feature in any phone I have had. I think your clutching on straws on that one.

Posted by badassmam
iPhone may fall short in a few places but, it's a must have phone and people are willing to pay that much for it. For Apple's first phone, they must be over the moon and now with the price cut, more people will go for it. They must be doing something right if they can get away with selling a "crap"phone.

Posted by bavlondon2
The price cut was always going to happen. I just hope whatevers coming in June will be worth it.

Posted by Dogmann
Hi all

Well many of the so called missing features are really only important if you use them in which case it's simple don't get a iPhone.

But i really don't see the iPhone as a business smart phone but as s Multimedia smart phone but that doesn't mean it can't perform any Business type applications just that is not it's main purpose.

For me the restricting factors are the lack of 3G/HSDPA which is only a matter of time before it is added to the next gen, but the real killer is a fixed battery and not for not being able to change it when it goes flat but what happens when it goes dead. That to me is a major drawback especially if it is your only phone.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-04-16 06:12 ]

Posted by bavlondon2
Some good points Dogman but im yet to bump into any iphone owners whos battery has died completley. I think a lot of people overlook the fact that in terms of materials used and build quality iphone is leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else. i cant remember the last time I bought a phone and was totally satisfied with it in terms of build and battery life.

At the end of the day iphone performs welleven when surfing on wifi and watching videos so as long as they maintain that then the removable battery thing is a non factor. Its becasue Nokia and the rest use such cheap materials that people have to sometimes buy a new battery.

I think the price cut is a good thing and should serve as to give iphone a boost ahead of WWDC when we should see the 3g iphone.

Posted by Miss UK
Price cut and of a course if Apple gave the iPhone the freedom to eventually end up on other networks too would also make them more profit.

Nokia though have waited for all these touchy phones to come out beforehand now there kicking them all in the teeth with something which will be alot better if it's to go ahead

Posted by bavlondon2
The most important thing these phones will have to demonsrate is if the interface can compete. We already know there will be no multi touch so that’s already a let down.

You also have to remember that this isnt even going to be Nokia touch flagship. That should come after. So you have to ask are Nokia going to be able to compete with iphone sucessor?




[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-04-16 17:56 ]

Posted by Dogmann
Hi Bav,

I'm not suggesting the batteries will die through bad workmanship far from it, but they do have a limited and not infinite lifespan. It is far to early to see any reaching the end of their life quite yet, but my point is what happens when they do?

I also have to say the build quality of my Nokia E61 was without fault and like many others wish the N series was built to the same quality and used the same premium materials. My current E90 is also extremely well made using quality materials and is without fault build wise IMO it is also now even faster with the latest firmware and still completely stable to and while it may not be a device for all i love the S60 OS and interface.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-04-16 19:01 ]

Posted by Residentevil

On 2008-04-09 07:24:50, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
I'd say T for touch.



I'd say the Nphone.

Posted by belialwafu

On 2008-04-18 03:40:51, Residentevil wrote:

On 2008-04-09 07:24:50, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
I'd say T for touch.



I'd say the Nphone.


i believe they will not do that

Posted by Miss UK
haha why not?

nPhone sounds a good name

Posted by Residentevil
That might be politically incorrect here in the US. PPL get upset about anything.

Posted by @ftyk
what about the sim card slot on the i phone which can't be accessed unless you have a pin/something?
the "i" in i phone could be anything = "incomplete" / "inconvenient" / "irritating" / "idiotic" / "imperfect" or just plain simple "ill", take your pick.
ps : whoever said the i phone is bug free is self-consoling him/her self on an overpriced stupid purchase.

Posted by Dogmann
@ftyk

I really can't understand why you think the sim card tray that pops out by inserting a paper clip or the like in it's hole is such a terrible thing?

It definitely is no harder or difficult then what is needed for most phones which involves taking off a battery cover and removing a battery to then remove the Sim. See how much more you have to do that way?

I had and sold a iPhone as it just didn't suit me and i am no longer a fan of Touch screen devices but i certainly didn't finding it crashing freezing or performing a WSOD or BROD or even sowing down for that matter. So just what are these problems you are eluding to as i saw none and compared to many devices delivered by various manufactures it has excellent build quality and is bug free. Even though i don't like Touch Screens any longer i would still be more confident buying one form Apple then a phone from SE.

Marc
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