UIQ 3.3 is out! - Esato archive

Posted by ares
Another sign of death???

http://www.uiqblog.com/2008/03/27/uiq-33-unleashed/

Posted by anonymuser
The fact that UIQ isn't going quietly into the night does NOT mean the platform isn't, essentially, finished. It doesn't matter a jot if they release 29 new versions of it, all that matters is that people buy it, in the form of new devices, and develop for it.

I wouldn't expect the good people at SE, Motorola, or UIQ to let the platform die without a fight - but ultimately its survival is down to the consumers. Don't call off the wake just yet.

Oh, and please - statements like "UIQ 3.3 further enhances UIQ’s position as the platform of choice for manufacturers" just sound ridiculous, and do nothing for your credibility. UIQ has no position as a "platform of choice", it's being kept alive by just two manufacturers and a literal handful of phones - nobody could accuse it of being the first choice for anybody.

[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-03-27 10:01 ]

Posted by ares
And last time i checked, SE and Motorola combined mean something on the mobile world...and both choose UIQ...its not THE platform of choice, but it does mean something

Listen...its not me, and other UIQ fans that are overeacting, saying UIQ is the best thing of the world and a tremendous success...it anyone is going to extremes are the people saying the platform is dead...

I just like it, see great potential on it together with alot of things to improve, and i think that can happen, despite SE and Moto´s recent bad decisions

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Posted by anonymuser
Between you and me, I like UIQ too, or at least I see it's potential, but at the same time - like most people - I'm frustrated by the painfully slow progress over the last couple of years. The reason people are scenting death, is the simple fact that there's been effectively no development of UIQ at all in 2-3 years. The handful of "flagship" UIQ phones released under the brand most associated with it, SE, are woefully behind in their technology compared to the competition. Moto's efforts have been better in some ways, but in other ways hampered by their loss of one of UIQ's key attractions, the touchscreen support. Combined with all the bad blood over the P990 etc, there really needed to be a much more decisive sea change in UIQ's promotion a lot sooner than this - which is, when all's said and done, a fairly minor upgrade. One which has yet to appear in any device announced or otherwise, at that.

When you consider the threat from S60 Touch just in the Symbian world, and the wider developments in WM, Android, and OS X, it really does look like a lame duck on life support, waiting for somebody to pull the plug. Not unlike Moto's mobile division, to be fair.

Posted by >500

On 2008-03-27 11:35:46, Boinng wrote:
''''Between you and me''''

hmmmm, you know every one can read your post dont you....... so not much of secret!

sorry for off topic, im just a little hypo, couldnt resist

Posted by Keiki
Its FUNTASTIC! i cant wait

to implement to their lineup soon

Posted by Nipsen

On 2008-03-27 11:35:46, Boinng wrote:
When you consider the threat from S60 Touch just in the Symbian world, and the wider developments in WM, Android, and OS X, it really does look like a lame duck on life support, waiting for somebody to pull the plug. Not unlike Moto's mobile division, to be fair.

So.. what you're saying is that UIQ is in trouble as a platform because of untested offerings turning up in the relatively distant future?

I guess that's one way of saying SE's two- year old UIQ implementation still is one of the best offerings on the market - which I unfortunately have to agree with - but come on..

Posted by anonymuser

On 2008-03-27 13:17:18, Nipsen wrote:
So.. what you're saying is that UIQ is in trouble as a platform because of untested offerings turning up in the relatively distant future?

I guess that's one way of saying SE's two- year old UIQ implementation still is one of the best offerings on the market - which I unfortunately have to agree with - but come on..

I can't really tell if you're joking or not. You don't think that developments like S60 with touch support, and increased choice in smartphone platforms from the likes of Android and the Iphone, are a challenge to UIQ? These things aren't in the distant future, most of them are going to happen this year - probably long before any significant new UIQ model appears.

Just look at S60 Touch. It's a hammerblow to UIQ. It's the most popular Symbian UI by a long shot, with the best developer support, using the best implementation of Symbian itself, combined with the single feature that UIQ previously championed over S60 - touchscreen support. How can that not be a massive threat? Nokia could royally screw up the whole interface (they won't) and it would still make UIQ look redundant.

I can't stand S60, I know little about Android, I'm not interested in the Iphone, and I spent four solid years being completely faithful to UIQ - but I can still see that the platform's in big trouble, and posters like you have your heads so deep into the sand it's unreal!

[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-03-27 12:46 ]

Posted by c_vignesh
Will this UIQ 3.3 version support flash / flash lite

Posted by ares
Boinng...s60 touch has yet to prove itself to be on UIQ level (the touch part), much less iphone level...its premature to say anything about it untill you see some real devices

Posted by Nitro Fan
If

were really committed in the long term to UIQ (in whatever form) would they be releasing WM phones into their line up? I admit to being a cynic but Sony have a long history of swapping formats at the drop of a hat, I for one am not betting on UIQ being around for too long. But I am sure its nice news for those who are interested in this sort of thing.

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Posted by doministry
Right,
What Nokia showed as it's touch interface in a demo,
was rather poor and not encouraging. Absolutely not convincing.
But they will definately improve that, make it best they can and have many good ideas about it,
but it's not really existing yet (on the market) and it's no to so soon it will be launched,
and maybe it was a mistake....
Every new idea is challenging though and we can be sure SE/UIQ sees that and reacts for that.

Posted by Nipsen

On 2008-03-27 13:46:20, Boinng wrote:
You don't think that developments like S60 with touch support, and increased choice in smartphone platforms from the likes of Android and the Iphone, are a challenge to UIQ?

I don't. Not until it proves itself to be 1. as stable. 2. as secure. 3. as scaleable. 4. as customiseable. 5. as efficient. and 6. as developer- friendly (and then I don't mean for hackers, but for actual developers).

I've said it before - but if SE supported these units, and ensured they were properly tested (and positioned for people who actually use the phones) - it would be no question what sort of /platform/ would be the best one at the market.

And as you say - that a platform with no HSDPA phones, no high- end processors, no in- built gps, etc, etc, can still manage to survive, that certainly means something. We just disagree on what, I suppose.

These things aren't in the distant future, most of them are going to happen this year - probably long before any significant new UIQ model appears.

Nevertheless - it's not here, and it might very well be a "dream". And we know next to nothing about the capabilities and the way it's structured, or how easy it would be to actually develop less than a complete program- suite for it. And those are important things, when you consider a platform to develop on.

Just look at S60 Touch. It's a hammerblow to UIQ.

Sadly, no. Set aside the fact that we haven't actually seen the tech on anything except concept- animations so far - it sets out to implement the scrolling- functions in s60 with finger- touch. I.e, mapping up/down and push on the d-pad to finger- movement. Anything else would have to be implemented separately, and break backwards against other s60 phones. In other words, what it does is to introduce the s60 users to touch, not entice wm or UIQ users to s60. (As much as I would love that to be the case, since it might actually give SE a reason to get their asses in gear).

Nokia could royally screw up the whole interface (they won't) and it would still make UIQ look redundant.

The m600 /looked/ redundant.

I can't stand S60, I know little about Android, I'm not interested in the Iphone, and I spent four solid years being completely faithful to UIQ - but I can still see that the platform's in big trouble, and posters like you have your heads so deep into the sand it's unreal!

Well - try an s60 unit for a while. And be amazed to see what the hype is about. That experience still makes me laugh inside, at least, whenever I encounter a "quirk" in UIQ.. "ooh, s60 is the best symbian, the most bleeding edge.." - I wish. Oh, how I wish that was the case.

Posted by sternas
“The Last breath before death”

A great sample of (Sony/Nokia) Marketing … mistake.

Posted by tranced
i was just browsing the new features and i like this very much:

Opera Widgets: Opera widgets run on UIQ 3.3, offering the user direct access to content and opening up for new mobile services

Posted by Nipsen
no shit. If they spent a fraction of the sum spent on pr and Macworld- sniffing analysts..

I mean, let's take the iPhod - no commercial stunts, little or no pr, no "ambassadors" or tennis- stars. And it still became a bestseller. Now why is that? Does it have something to do with that the product actually is good, and did what the customers expected of it? Was it because it didn't scream (too loudly anyway) of unrealised potential?

Or was it because of some magic happening in the market that had to do with exposure, positioning, timing, and lack of competition? Hardly. It just was a good product (that of course - to everyone's astounding suprise - does not instantly escape over to the iPoon).

But hey - let's buy ourselves another few hours with a tennis- star. #¤%&

Posted by aksd
You think UIQ 3.3 is finger friendly, nothing on the website, but I guess if it was it would be mentioned in the press release. Another nice thing about it is itsmated to v9.3 symbian, so a few RAM issues should be solved. Hope the implementation of the OS is on a processor greater than 200 mhz

Posted by ares
When there is plenty of RAM, there are no RAM issues, be it on uiq3.0 or uiq 3.3

Posted by aksd
@ares,

Agreed, but thats not a permanent solution now is it

. Thats a very primitive solution

, not what you'd accept from equipment you're going to be paying > 300 pounds for

. We like our phones perfect, and this will bring us that one step closer.

Posted by Dogmann
@Nipsen

When you say

"I don't. Not until it proves itself to be 1. as stable. 2. as secure. 3. as scaleable. 4. as customiseable. 5. as efficient. and 6. as developer- friendly (and then I don't mean for hackers, but for actual developers)."

Just how much of that can actually be applied to SE/UIQ then seeing as every UIQ Device so far up to and including the P1 and W960 has carried forward known bugs.

You are right it is far to early to judge S60 Touch UI one way or the other as it has not been seen properly yet, but what we do know is that most if not all existing S60 apps will work on it so that completely removes the question point 6 makes.

This announcement can only be seen as a positive as at least it show progress but if the rumors are true and SE announce devices with greatly improved processors, HSDPA and all round better spec's in May. Just when does anyone think we will actually see these devices launched late this year or early next year?

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Posted by mode
Good point Marc

Posted by anonymuser

On 2008-03-27 14:33:41, Nipsen wrote:
I don't. Not until it proves itself to be 1. as stable. 2. as secure. 3. as scaleable. 4. as customiseable. 5. as efficient. and 6. as developer- friendly (and then I don't mean for hackers, but for actual developers).

Why would you imagine that S60 Touch would be any less stable, secure, scaleable, cusomiseable, efficient or developer friendly than S60?

Do you really believe that UIQ should wait until S60 Touch is out there and "proving" itself, before it reacts?

I'm not even going to mention the imminent release of WM6.1, or the upcoming 7 that looks set to be a revolution, or the growth of OS X development following its SDK release, or Android with it's sizeable industry support already in place. Let's carry on ignoring these "unproven" things, until they prove themselves on the market, eh?

I've said it before - but if SE supported these units, and ensured they were properly tested (and positioned for people who actually use the phones) - it would be no question what sort of /platform/ would be the best one at the market.

You may have said it before, but you still seem to be wasting your time - SE don't support these units properly, they don't properly test them, and their market positioning is entirely questionable. That's why UIQ is languishing in the sorry state it's in, and it's not good enough to say "but if they just..." because to some extent it's too late already, and they're showing no signs of upping their game either.

And as you say - that a platform with no HSDPA phones, no high- end processors, no in- built gps, etc, etc, can still manage to survive, that certainly means something. We just disagree on what, I suppose.

We certainly do. The UIQ phones on sale for the past year aren't bad, they're quite competitively priced, and they offer something reasonably unique in their form factor - touchscreens without the overheads of WM, or the price of an Iphone etc. The problem is, it's diminishing returns - we're approaching a time when everything (smart or not) will have touch features, and UIQ will be just another also ran.

Nevertheless - it's not here, and it might very well be a "dream".

I can almost believe you work for UIQ, perhaps in their long term strategy department? Maybe everything's a dream, and we'll all wake up in a minute next to our P800's?

And we know next to nothing about the capabilities and the way it's structured, or how easy it would be to actually develop less than a complete program- suite for it. And those are important things, when you consider a platform to develop on.

Yes they are, but they're probably mostly the same as S60 aren't they, when you think about it? I mean, I don't know any better than you do, but if you were Nokia developing a Touch version of S60, wouldn't you make it pretty much the same as the immensely successful and popular S60, but with a Touch layer on it?

No, that's complete conjecture on your part. Anything else (as in, touch selection of items on screen, handwriting etc) will I'm sure be added separately, but while it might not work on all previous S60 apps, that's no reason not to do it. Nothing will be "broken", the phones will simply be able to run both Touch and non-Touch apps. You can bet good money that the vast majority of existing apps will be Touch enabled within a month or two of the first handset release.

In other words, what it does is to introduce the s60 users to touch, not entice wm or UIQ users to s60. (As much as I would love that to be the case, since it might actually give SE a reason to get their asses in gear).

Again, I think you're being incredibly naive if you really think that's all it does. Nokia aren't daft, they aren't going to touch enable S60 just to save money on a d-pad.

The m600 /looked/ redundant.

I assume that's meant to be a significant statement in some way, but the sentence itself looks redundant to me. I had an M600, I quite liked it, but it didn't exactly catch the world alight. It may have given us the P1, but that's no groundshaker either.

You really don't get it - I've already said, I can't stand S60. It does nothing for me. But given that they're both running the same OS, the only real advantage that UIQ has is its touchscreen, and all the ease of navigation and input that gives. When S60 has the same, and all the software and support, and the much wider choice of devices, and all the high-end technology that UIQ's manufacturers have ignored, then I see no future whatever for User Interface Quartz.

Posted by Nipsen

On 2008-03-27 16:05:22, Dogmann wrote:
@Nipsen

When you say

"I don't. Not until it proves itself to be 1. as stable. 2. as secure. 3. as scaleable. 4. as customiseable. 5. as efficient. and 6. as developer- friendly (and then I don't mean for hackers, but for actual developers)."

Just how much of that can actually be applied to SE/UIQ then seeing as every UIQ Device so far up to and including the P1 and W960 has carried forward known bugs.

Relatively speaking, they are still the best in the market on everything but volume. That's not plugging SE - I would have sold the phone long ago if there was a better alternative - it's simply how it is.

Oh, and.. do I hear about the "occasional disappearing keyboard character" bug on the n95, that wasn't fixed until a year after release? Anyone better than that one - what about guaranteed hang within the week if you use more than one program at a time? What about the "out of memory", when there's no programs to close? Or do we hear about Nokia "abandoning fifty models of s60 without any bug- fixes at all", telling all the customers to go fark themselves? Strangely, we don't.

And that's before going at the hardware- defects.

..In any case - we were discussing the platform, not Nokia or SE's attempts with symbian platforms.

You are right it is far to early to judge S60 Touch UI one way or the other as it has not been seen properly yet, but what we do know is that most if not all existing S60 apps will work on it so that completely removes the question point 6 makes.

..No. Specifically on input: the idea behind having multiple input- methods in UIQ is to allow distribution of applications to as many different devices as possible, without changing the code too much, if at all. That is a good thing when you're a developer.

What s60 touch would do is to offer s60, to the same amount of units - with another option for input if someone would care to implement it specifically - for perhaps even just one model. That is not enticing to a developer, unless you're the kind that makes a "lightsaber" application for the motion- detector.

But that is why s60 touch would be doomed to be only a gimmick. And just be honest: would you flip your finger away from the d-pad, just to scroll through the phone- book with your finger?

This announcement can only be seen as a positive as at least it show progress but if the rumors are true and SE announce devices with greatly improved processors, HSDPA and all round better spec's in May. Just when does anyone think we will actually see these devices launched late this year or early next year?

Doesn't have OMAP, can't burn the battery in two hours, ergo it can't make an impact in the market. Yeah, I know... And again with the argument that "future" units would be a threat to current and woefully obsolete SE phones. It's such a strange thing to say.

Of course - I agree that unless SE starts to ship their phones with hsdpa by next year - that won't be a good thing. Because there should be a push on the telecoms to develop and build out quicker and cheaper packet- switched data transfer. That's going to be really useful soon, and could be already.

Nevertheless, none of that will be much of a point, unless the battery- life is kept at the same level as now. And on the other hand, unless the software to make use of the services has a good platform to work on. Because there's no need to look any further than the units at the market now to see loads of problems that no amount of high- speed downlink packet access could possibly fix.

Seriously - we have a powerVr instruction set on the p1 - it's not used. That's how woefully lacking the software- development is now. And that's how it will be, until effective ways to use the new mobile tech will be figured out. And for that, battery- life, size - and unfortunately for SE - software, is the most essential thing.

And trust me on this - no telecom or company insisting on trying to cash in their investment by advertisements, or through content- portals are ever going to develop any programs that use this technology to it's full potential. I guarantee you that. And do you know why? It's because I've been following the development of wap, xml's bastard child. I've been following the development of countless "content- portals" that would "make the internet obsolete". And I've seen myself how internet TV again and again fails because of greedy CEOs f**ked up from sniffing velvet cloth insists that just "giving away" something isn't going to pay off.

And that's how it takes fifteen years before certain telecoms start to actually offer - on their own volition - free content to their subscribers, in order to capture larger parts of the market, and to sell more phones. And even then, they keep holding on to the idea that - unless it's at least a little bit irritating to use the device. I mean, it at least has to say THIS IS YOUR OPERATOR SPEAKING, at least every time you open the browser. Then things are really going to hell.

But that's what I'm talking about, you see. For ONCE, a platform that isn't dependent on one single operator, or one goddamned licensed tele- operator with small- minded gnomes sitting in a cave eating gold, while planning their next "venture".

But no - UIQ is dayeing!!!!elevenses!! No OMAP LULZOMFG!!!

Just imagine - one UIQ provider competing with another on their solutions? I know you think the concept would make the earth implode - but just imagine it for one second, before going on with the rant. Ok? Good.

Posted by malinda
NO GPS/HSDPA support yet!

Posted by ADOX2525
i take it's not coming to P1i etc. then, that sucks, i wish GW1 would get the latest firmware back.

Posted by Vipera ammodytes

On 2008-03-27 17:51:06, malinda wrote:
NO GPS/HSDPA support yet!

sucks!

Posted by ares
no hsdpa...lol...care to read this???

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/4062_Symbian_OS_93.php

(uiq 3.3 is based on symbian 9.3)

regarding gps...its not a problem with UIQ version...if they want, they put it on devices (and will)

Posted by JAGUY85
Oh wow, yet another UIQ will live/die thread. LOL. Anyway, the official link:

http://uiq.com/uiq_3_3.html

I do like the improvements and it (hopefully) bodes well for the future.

I really didn't know what else to say, you guys are baffling me. LOL.

I am going to a S60 device soon after my UIQ P1 but not because I don't like UIQ, but because the W960 is still overpriced and I sold the P1 in my country while it's still hot anticipating the G series in the summer. So, I will be off to a Samsung i550w ($407 shipped) soon for the time being (those Nokias are also overpriced and oftentimes bulky).

I must say though...I do prefer the implementation of UIQ vs S60. I just wish I could've found as much software as I did last night for UIQ like I did for S60.

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Posted by londonlad123
Uiq3 is as good as dead at the moment. Everyones been waiting for a super uiq3 phone for a long time now, we'll see if p5 delivers if it ever arrives.

With the mobile phone market high end slowing down its not exactly the best time to release it. Personally, I wouldnt be interested if Se release a p1 with omap3, hsdpa, 5mpix and gps etc and they use the same uiq3 layout as g900.

Hopefully the uiq3 we've seen in spy pics on a 3" screen phone is not out of Se's reach.

The most interesting news from from the uiq3.3 info is the screenshot of the menu.
Coreplayer is there, May on the calender, gps icon and a silver and black looking slide phone with a square dpad. Interesting.

Posted by hgautam

On 2008-03-27 15:12:26, ares wrote:
When there is plenty of RAM, there are no RAM issues, be it on uiq3.0 or uiq 3.3

Well symbian 9.3 is somewhat mpre memory efficient meaning better startup times, using contacts and messaging will be faster, plus the overall navigation of the UI, etc...

Posted by hgautam

On 2008-03-27 22:11:05, londonlad123 wrote:
Uiq3 is as good as dead at the moment.

P1 is still selling well and more than previous UIQ phones... And wait till G700 and G900 arrives... The sales are gonna be really good... The reasons being price and features... How many times do I need to mention this??????

Posted by razec
One interesting feature(at least for me) is the implementation of JSR-248 MSA API which was seen on

A200 platform. which speaks to the integration of A200 features to UIQ 3.3 and higher. and will also mean that K850 successor would likely be UIQ and at the same time will bear all the software goodies of it's predecessor without issues/incompatibility.

Posted by BoyBawang
Does this automaticaly support Demand Paging when paired with Symbian 9.5? Or more code rework is needed?

Posted by Nipsen
No, it'll be integrated in the OS from v9.3. So any program running on it will benefit to some extent. (But it won't automatically fix any memory- issues with programs that don't destroy the objects it uses when it's done with them, and so on. And a program would need the same amount of memory when it's picked up all the resources it references. So.. more ram at startup? And more ram for apps. Some performance- hit because of overhead, but not much... I think, anyway.

)

Posted by aksd
I thought Demand Paging is basically a Symbian v9.3 and above feature.

Posted by Dogmann
@Nipsen

I really don't know where you are getting your information from as it is wholly inaccurate and if even if half of what you spout was true. That makes it really amazing that a device with so many problems has managed to capture the imagination of so many and sell 1 million plus units per month for so long then isn't it.

@hgatum

Well no one yet knows just how well the G series will sell but for many in mid 2008 a smart phone without HSDPA really isn't that great. It may well attract previous non smart phone users from SE but then that will be at the expense of other SE Series phones as for current smart phones users i would imagine a large proportion will want HSDPA in their smart phone and taht may rule it out for many.

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Posted by hgautam
@Nipsen

Yeah only a little difference in performance is what I expect from Symbian 9.3 and not much... But atleast some improvement is better than nothing...

Posted by hgautam

On 2008-03-28 07:05:01, Dogmann wrote:
@hgatum

Well no one yet knows just how well the G series will sell but for many in mid 2008 a smart phone without HSDPA really isn't that great. It may well attract previous non smart phone users from SE but then that will be at the expense of other SE Series phones as for current smart phones users i would imagine a large proportion will want HSDPA in their smart phone and taht may rule it out for many.

Marc

You are right Marc... We will have to wait and see how well G series sell... But Marc not everyone is a techie like you, me and many others and the g series is more focused towards an average consumer... The lack of HSDPA is not such a huge problem for G700 as you think... Please try to understand what I mean...

Also why don't you read the mobile review's G700 review Marc??? Even if you read the positioning, design and conclusion part that will be enough... May be then you will have a better idea about the G700...

Posted by aksd
@hgautam

Consider that by the time the G700 releases the N82 would have dropped by about 20-40$ at least in India making it about 20$ more than the G700 and similarly priced or even cheaper than the G900, if I were buying a phone at that time and had to choose between these I'd buy the N82 hand down, I like getting value for my money and so does everybody else, unless they're fanboys. Just because eldar says something that maybe valid for the Russian market does'nt mean that it the same worldwide.

Also he forgets that if somebody wants a cheap touch screen you;ve got the Motorola ROKR E6 and MING which sells in quite large numbers in India and its over 100$ cheaper than the expected release price of the G700, also the P1i is at that price point at the moment, people would rather buy an AF camera rather than the non AF camera, the screen on the P1i is bigger as well, I agree they're aimed at different segments but they;re going to have an overlap here.

Eldar also forgets that the HTC TOuch is in a similar price range and is commanding reasonable sales. If somebody wanted to buy a touch screen, and since its riding o nthe iPhone wave it might even tempt people from buying the G700 with its keypad. And people want stylish phones as well, the G700 is quite plain in my opinion.

I'm not saying the G700 will fail, in all probability it wont, but you're looking at things through rose tinted glasses.

And regarding UIQ to be dead thats a load of rubbish, I know of a lot of work going on at Moto with regards to UIQ, a lot of teh work force has been diverted from LJ to UIQ.

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Posted by bavlondon2
Knowing SE we wont see any devices announced with 3.3 until at least Q2 09.

Posted by iPhine
i think symbian UIQ 3.3 more stable than basic symbian 9.3 ... for the example symbian UIQ 3.0 based (W950i) is much stable than symbian 9.0 (nokia 5700)... i have experience on that both phones..

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Posted by ares

On 2008-03-28 10:20:32, bavlondon2 wrote:
Knowing SE we wont see any devices announced with 3.3 until at least Q2 09.

What a joke...how about next announcement??? Do you remember Mizzle´s screenshots of Beibei firmware??? Go and tell me what you see there...

Next SE UIQ phones, to be announced soon, will bring UIQ 3.3

Meanwhile, we got some more details:

http://www.uiqblog.com/2008/03/28/some-cool-uiq-33-screenshots/

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Posted by BoyBawang
Its nice that i need not wait for UIQ4 inorder to experience the performance gains from Demand Paging

The screenshots didn't give clues for threaded SMS.. But it's up to SE if they wanna include it right??

Posted by bavlondon2
Ares I thought BeiBei was supposed to be 3.2? Anyway why would they skip a whole possible year of using 3.2 and go right to 3.3?

Posted by Nipsen
..if not, it'll make for a good programming project, maybe?

Posted by ares
bav, SE won´t use 3.2...on beibei firmware you see widgets all over the place, opera 9.5 stuff, etc - all this is what we see on UIQ 3.3

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Posted by bavlondon2
Interesting indeed. So is it pretty much a given then that BeiBei will be UIQ 3.3?

Posted by Mizzle
I've just tried UIQ 3.3 earlier today and it is much like what I've seen of BeiBei!

Posted by bavlondon2
How does it compare to S60 Mizz?

Posted by Mizzle
It's very hard to say anything at this point. It was a beta version of UIQ 3.3, and some areas didn't feel any stable at all. Opera Mobile was extremely buggy and crashed almost every time I tried loading a web page.

The web widgets are fun, though. Very nice idea.