Posted by Geezay
Having read a review/preview of the upcoming release of the Nokia S60 3rd Edition Feature Pack 2 on Mobile-review http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-s60-fp2-full-en.shtml) , I am being swayed towards getting a Nokia running this as my next smartphone. I have been a loyal SE user for the last decade, having used phones like the GH388, the T series (T10, 18, 28 ,39 & 610), the P Series (P910, P990 and P1). I have been drawn towards SE due to their fresh, cutting edge designs (T610), innovativeness and stability. However, of late, the stability of their UIQ smartphones has been somewhat of an issue, and their designs are no longer that cutting edge or innovative. SE has been lagging behind in areas such as including GPS modules in their hardware, and navigation maps (Nokia Maps). Barely a handfull of SE models have resolutions above 3MP on their cameras while other manufacturers are far ahead (Need I mention the green tint on the P1?). Why did Samsung beat SE to Optical Zoom when Sony is major player in the digital camera arena? 16m colour screens are commonplace among other manufacturers now but where is SE? Now Nokia will be including FM transmitters in their handset hardware and who knows when SE will be doing that? The FM transmitter accessories are not even available in all parts of the world yet. Nokia's will still have their flaws, but the out of box package is going to be hard to beat!
I won't even go into P990 saga...
I certainly hope SE get their act together with the coming G-series and the Xperia because they may be well on their way to losing a customer to their bitter rivals.
And how exciting is the S60 Touch going to be? Videos on YouTube suggest something special!
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Posted by Geezay
Are we all so fed up with SE that noone will try to convince me to stay? Well then!
Posted by BobaFett
and which fone will u take?
Posted by hgautam
Atleast I don't wanna convince you. You wanna go for S60 then go ahead. My next phone is P-Next no matter what.
As for Radio transmitter, the W980 has it and was announced a bit earlier than Nokia did.
Posted by QVGA
Good move. I'm not buying any Nokia right now because i want to wait for more options with Feature Pack 2.
Posted by Adz21
have to admit ive jumped ship after using the p series since the p800 and got an n95-2 today! love it already. i had no interest what so ever in the p1. sony need to pull it together imo!
Posted by Geezay
@ BobaFett - I don't know which model I will go for, maybe the coming N96? Something high spec, high camera res, quality large screen, music features, GPS, basically a phone which SE refuse to give us! I would have loved a touchscreen but may have to forgo that for the moment. I am blown away by the N96 specs - check it out http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4835651
@ hgautam - the FM transmitter is but one of the features that Nokia will have in a wider range of phones. I'm sure SE will limit it to the higher end Walkman phones, which is cool, but for someone like me who wants to use their flagship phone which they then deliberately go thin on some of the features, it won't work for me!
@ QVGA - good move, waiting for more features. The current offering of feature pack 2 though for me is more than what I am getting from SE and if I am to chose, MORE is MORE for me!
@ Adz21 - well done! Does the N95-2 (I assume 8GB?) run the feature pack 2? Should be an interesting experience!
As much as I want to stay with SE, I have been asking myself why when I can get a somewhat better service elsewhere...
Posted by frank2345babies
having been a huge supporter of sony ericsson and having converted all my friends to them. I decided to get a nokia n73 about 2 years ago. My main reason for this was that sony ericsson split there range. I wanted my phone to be as good as possible at as many things as possible. You just dont get this with sony ericsson. I now have the n95-2 and after5 months still love it and haven even thought about replacing it. The range of features and applications for the n95 is unbelievable. And has become my main form of entertainment even in the house. Being used for internet, audio books, ebooks, videos, gaming(ngage is really great well the trials on first access showed alot ofpromise) and messaging it really is great and i dont believe any of the current or recently announced s.e. Phones could replace it (xperia) comes close. So anyway i am sure you wont regret your decision and when you change let me know i will give you a website to find free applications etc
Posted by bearcub24
Does the Nokia E51 have feature pack 2?
Posted by frank2345babies
none of the current range of nokia phones have run feature pack 2 and are unlikely to. Although theoretically possible through firmware updates nokia will want customers to buy a new phone to get the benefits of feature pack 2. Although feature pack1 phones are good to use for phone savvy people i can see why nokia would want to make it easier for the average phone user especially after there prediction about the popularity of smart phones over the next few years rising
Posted by hgautam
@Geezay
My only point was to inform you that SE does have a phone with FM transmitter as you said SE don't have one yet...
I too would like to see in-built FM plus FM transmitter in as many SE phones as possible... I also think SE will keep it to their high end walkmans, atleast initially but will put in their mid range later on...
Posted by themarques
Forget S60 come on the blackberry bandwagon I was an avid preacher of S60 (still love it) but you have to love the back to simplicity of blackberry, but at the same time it has power apps incorporated. I shunned it for many years but finally glad I took the plunge.
On a side note are you in Harare now, whats the situation looking like for Saturday?
Posted by Geezay
@ themarques - I certainly have not considered joining the blackberry bandwagon, but I will check it out. I am looking for a high end device that does everything!
Yes, I am in Harare. The mood is one of hope, excitement but one can't help but feel that not a whole lot is going to change after Saturday!
Posted by themarques
So have any of the networks econet, netone etc setup GPRS or 3G?
Posted by BobaFett
@geezay i would rather go for the n95 8gb, instead of n96 and its joke battery... i have n95 8gb atm, not that bad, at least it survives 24h, at my usage thats an ok result.
or any interest for the e series?
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Posted by makbil
@Geezay, good choice. This is definitely not the time to buy a UIQ3 phone yet, especially not from SE.
I'm also considering N95 8 GB but I'll wait for a while longer, I'd like to see the time frame for their touch screen devices.
Posted by Geezay
On 2008-03-26 22:41:32, themarques wrote:
So have any of the networks econet, netone etc setup GPRS or 3G?
Econet is waiting for their application for a 3G license to be approved - been pending for about a year now. GPRS is up and running "in trial mode" pending approval of the application. Now here is the good part - trial is open to clienta who apply and it is free! Been enjoying it for over 6 months now!
Posted by aaarkhipov
I have both N95 (the original) and P1i and both have their +'s and -'s (for me, of course).
Nokia has good VoIP client built-in and its e-mail client works fine and it supports HSDPA (or whatever it is 3.5G with data transfer speed of several Mb/sec) but its battery does not lasts for even a couple of hours if you want to use these nice features (and it is really hot under such load). You cannot charge it through USB also (I know there is a cable but it is a separate story why it does not work).
P1i has touch screen and normal keyboard and its battery life is much better but it has no internal VoIP client (there's fring but it's not the same as native support) and its e-mail client gives me a headache.
So, there's no "perfect phone", probably.
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Posted by themarques
Correct me if I am wrong but voip is not allowed in Zim yet? So that will be one function on the S60 that you might not utilize. I am glad to hear about the trial GPRS as I will be visiting there soon so thats great news. I am guessing there is no protocol in place though for MMS.
Have you tried to see how FRING or any other chat clients handles the gprs service and if you get a couple of minutes could I possibly ask you for the GPRS APN and the telephone number of who you rang to activate the trial GPRS. Many Thanks.
Posted by Geezay
@ aaarkhipov - I hear you about the N95. I know Nokia addressed some of the issues with future releases and on the N95 8GB. I hope they are more responsive to customers complaints/suggestions/needs and have further addressed the issues in the N96. There is no perfect phone but some come closer than others!
@ themarques - there is no legislation against VOIP as far as I know and quite a number of organisations and individuals with broadband use it. I haven't tried it over GPRS because the speeds a bit on the slow side. Will give it a try though, definitely. I will send you a PM regarding who to contact to get your GPRS account activated.
Posted by themarques
@Geezay I look forward to hearing back from you many Thanks
Posted by aaarkhipov
If you are not going to use 3G on these phones (and Nokia VoIP client will not work without 3G coverage at all) then I'd stay with SE. The reasons are:
- it is not the first Nokia I see with terrible battery life, so, I presume, that's Nokia's "feature"
- P1's keyboard is a definitive advantage for SMS'ing and e-mailing (just like on a laptop!)
Posted by GUCCI.011
I was a SE user till late last year when i got an N80, then got a N81 (FP-1) which ive now had for 4months,and still enjoying it, TONS of apps,and i also use my N81 for everything, Internet, Music, Videos, Movies sometimes, TV shows, SMS, MXit chatting to friends etc. . . Im up for an upgrade in July and i was thinking of getting W960 but then a fellow member of Esato reminded of the N78 with its Symbian s60 FP-2, AND Built-in FM Transmitter SO im staying with NOKIA, im going after that N78, it already has everything i want: a good enough Camera, GPS, HSDPA, WiFi, Symbian s60 FP-2, a 369mhz CPU like my current N81 which is lightening fast, a nice screen, a great 1200mAh battery,nice design and 3.5mm headphones jack.
The current Nokia FP-2 phones are:
N96
N78
6210-Navigator and
6220c.
Geezay
If you want a great battery life in your FP-2 phone i suggest going for the N78, i can just see every N78 owner praising this for great battery life in the near future.
Posted by Geezay
@ GUCCI.011, thanks for the advice. I had not in all honesty even considered the N78.I will definitely check out it's reviews.
Any idea when S60 Touch will be first implemented in a device?