Welcome to Esato.com


Pages: 1 2

Why oh Why (ericsson's stupid "fastport"(Fast to brake that is!))

Click to view updated thread with images


Posted by PhR34k
Im a electrcian and i use my phone from 6am to 4pm with radio on all time. My handsfree work up to 3 months then they start to bugg, like the latest one i have now. Its the stereo handsfree with in ear plugs and display. When i connect it sometimes my phone reboots other times only one "plug" works and other times it doesnt work at all. Its the stupid connector that ericsson uses, i would like to talk with the guy that thought it would be a good idea to use them. I mean its obious after sometime of usage it till disable. Cause you have to bend it up and down and its very easy that when you have it in your pocket the connector slipps off! I thought it was a bad idea already on the k750 and that they would fix it, i had to buy 4 handsfree during 1 year til the joystick broke wich is another story but atleast that is fixed, but what about the god damn handsfree. Is it only me and my friends that has this problem or is ericsson aware of this and likes it cause people have to buy new handsfrees? From now on im saving my recipets I aint buying any more. Here in sweden it costs about 7-80 $ or 50€.

Ericsson please fix this if you read this or ill have to start buying nokia wich i dont want to do.

[ This Message was edited by: PhR34k on 2008-03-24 20:31 ]


Posted by NightBlade
It's SONY Ericsson.

BTW, I find the fastport quite reliable.

[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2008-03-23 20:49 ]

Posted by PhR34k
Nooooooo? reaaaallyy?

Posted by bart
easy now.
you're quite new here. no need to act like a smart ass.

Posted by skblakee
The man has a point. The silly port is stupid. The person that came up with the idea is about as smart as the port itself.



Posted by PhR34k
Hehe thank you! Thought i was the only one..

Posted by skblakee
The fast port on my P990 broke the day I got it. from then on I was never ever able to enjoy the radio or adequately listen to music using the cheap head set that came with the phone.
Worse you can't keep your phone in some cases (the one I had) and use the fast port.
Overall the fast port just looks stupid when one has to plug in the head sets.

Posted by paul101
my fastport has never broke, exept when i got a dodgey set from a voda store

Posted by bart
The fast port is a good thing. it was build on the old fast port from ericsson. Is a typical swedish thing. they always try something new.
In this case it was a good thing, atleast in my eyes. Still i myselve preferd the older ericsson fast port system.

Posted by skblakee
The male plug into the fast port is too big and lends itself to being bent and broken to easily.

I am trying to put a picture of the fast port on here but can't get it on. However the male end is just too big and clumsy. One should not have to access the music and radio via it. If anything it should be left to recharging and updating via the DCU cable.

Posted by bart
SE should've used splash power technology along time ago. then the fastport could've had a totally diffirent design.
i've seen a few borken ones in my life. no offence but the ones that broke them just aren't causius enough.

Posted by theos
have two broken chargers ATM ...
and I am not buying any of SE accesories for sure, just because of dodgy quality/design of fastport ...

Posted by deluded
Well, I'd be more than happy if they could put a mini-usb port and a 3.5mm jack on it instead of the fastport. Or if they had to use the mini-usb for their headsets as well, I wouldn't mind getting a mini-usb to 3.5mm adaptor.

Posted by skblakee
I really liked but this is just another failure of theirs. The fast port should not be the universal port for all of its attachments. :se; really needs to update to having the mini USB,3.5mm port and or fast port.

Fast port smarceport

Posted by PhR34k
I bought a nokia n95 for my gf and it has a 3.5mm jack from wich you can use handsfree, connect to tv or some media dock. Thats the perfect solution!

Posted by lazeeboy
Never liked the fastport too. That's why i use a stereo bt headset when i listen to my music with my k610.


Posted by Lunion
use a bluetooth headset then...




Posted by Mizzle
Well, both K750 and P990 are old phones and their fastport connector was a bit on/off.... However, if you've tried all the latest phones, they're rock solid!

Posted by gola
Totally agree with the first post,it becomes even more worse in w900i's...

Posted by PhR34k
First of all, if I use the bt hf i cant use the radio. And then the battery only goes for 6 hours with S.E bt stereo hf and no i dont want to bring the charger to a contruction site so i can recharge it every 6 hours .

And second of all I have a k850 about the newer fastport i hope that my 850 counts as a new phone still..

And my boss has a P1 and after 3 months his handsfree broke too..

[ This Message was edited by: PhR34k on 2008-03-24 11:58 ]

Posted by skblakee
I was flat broke after I got my p990 but still found the money to go and get Ds970 BT headset just so that I could listen to my music which I could not do reliably within two days of getting my phone due to the silly fast port.

Then,you have the Radio that becomes no use because the fast port broke.
On top of that though it is just too big to have that male end of the plug sticking out of the phone. It is highly unfashionable even if it works properly.

Why not just go back to the 3.5 like on the 910i.

fast port

Posted by matthew23
hi men....on my K810i i have on fastport on contacts (on four) some foulness but i dont know everything i connect to phone works....but-when im calling i hear terrible buzz....its not by operator because my friend have same phone and operator and absolute clear calling...hearing aid is good because in service menu when i do test it play clear and nice....the buzz is in headset when i call too...i dont know what to do help please...sry for bad english and BTW my firmware is R8BA024...audio driver Peters HiFi v2...thx for answer


[ This Message was edited by: matthew23 on 2008-03-24 14:10 ]

Posted by Mizzle
It is then obvious that you people don't know how to plug accessories in and out of the connector port. You will of course break it if you simply pull it out and thereby are ruining the "lock mechanism" in the connector.

Posted by skblakee

On 2008-03-24 15:15:13, Mizzle wrote:
It is then obvious that you people don't know how to plug accessories in and out of the connector port. You will of course break it if you simply pull it out and thereby are ruining the "lock mechanism" in the connector.


Are you joking or what? You are talking to people who have been fans of
Sir,when I sold my p990 after having it for almost one year it did not have one single scratch on it. Not on the screen,not on the body. The only thing wrong with it were the bugs and the fast port which was gave trouble the first day I had it and tried updating it on the stand. I say that to let you know that I take very very good care of my loved ones.

You are justifying an ugly looking thing. Even if it was a good move it is highly unfashionable to have such a big plug for radio and music. No two ways about that.

fast port

Posted by PhR34k

On 2008-03-24 15:15:13, Mizzle wrote:
It is then obvious that you people don't know how to plug accessories in and out of the connector port. You will of course break it if you simply pull it out and thereby are ruining the "lock mechanism" in the connector.



I have had about a new SE mobile every year, K850, k770, k750, P990 and they have all had the same problem with the "fastport" and i know how to use it, its not a damn NASA Ship we are talking about its just a handsfree.

Posted by londonlad123
Have to agree that fastport is one of the worse connector solutions on the mobile phone market today. The connector is just too big for connecting a few wires to the metal contacts, as Ive said in the w890 thread. Its too fragile and then Se had the genius idea to put such a big connector on the side of the phone. on the w890 the connector is thicker than the phone! And a third of the width of the phone.

Its time for SE to replace fast port.


Posted by Mizzle
I am not joking at all.

I'd bet 90% of the users here are plugging cables out their phones in a wrong way..

Posted by skblakee

On 2008-03-24 17:23:10, Mizzle wrote:
I am not joking at all.

I'd bet 90% of the users here are plugging cables out their phones in a wrong way..



I'd bet you would lose.

Come on. Admit that the fast port is too big and highly unfashionable in addition to being easily damaged. It has little to do with how individuals plus in or out their apparatus.
Stop making broad statements and address the specifics mentioned here like having to plug in the fast port to get radio and too listen music. These would have been much off done through a 3.5mm jack.

Posted by number1
i hate the fast port just because it gives up after a while on my old k750i it started to give up, now on my k800i it's starting to give up i have to connect things a couple of times before the phone reconises them, the fast-port on my w300i is fine but's that because i don't use it much.

Posted by PhR34k

On 2008-03-24 17:23:10, Mizzle wrote:
I am not joking at all.

I'd bet 90% of the users here are plugging cables out their phones in a wrong way..



Ok then SE expert, make a guide for 10% of the people that dont know how to disconnect a handsfree from a phone..
Maybe it will be a best seller "Mizzle's how to disconnect handsfree for dummies"


Posted by lazeeboy
the fastport's ok for plugging your phone to a pc or charging it. but it definitely sucks as a headset connector. guaranteed to wear out in a few months' time, even if you're careful with it.

i still use a wired headset once in a while but only when i'm at home and in bed. saves batteries that way.


Posted by Mizzle
PhR34k,


I could do that, but I wouldn't get any fun out of it, now would I? It is obvious to me that you simply pull out the headset and alike when you're done. If you didn't, then you wouldn't be complaining about it here. Complaining about something you're doing wrong isn't exactly the smartest thing, you know.

Posted by skblakee

On 2008-03-24 23:43:15, lazeeboy wrote:
the fastport's ok for plugging your phone to a pc or charging it. but it definitely sucks as a headset connector. guaranteed to wear out in a few months' time, even if you're careful with it.

i still use a wired headset once in a while but only when i'm at home and in bed. saves batteries that way.




Mizzle please read the above quote and stop trying to justify the silly fast port. It makes little sense if any.
Put it up against any on a Nokia and you would lose.

fast port

Posted by Coquito
i had t610,k700, k300,k750,w800,w810, k790, k550, w580, k850, z520,w300 and other SE phones and I never had any problems with the fastport.

I think I'm very lucky

Posted by skblakee
I had the Y637,p900,and p910i and never had trouble with the fast port until the p990i.
:

Posted by Residentevil
My fast port is still working after four years. But I have not been using it very much with a handsfree.

Posted by lazeeboy
Problems with the fastport are normally experienced by those who use their phone as their primary music player(me included). Hopefully a 3.5mm audio input jack would be integrated into future phones, particularly walkman phones.


Posted by altemyr
I can't do anything else than agree with you. The fastport connector is not really good. Even the older Ericsson plugs were better, when it was possible to connect the earplug and the charger separately, since they only occupied half of the socket each. An on newer models, it gets even worse, when the connector is located at the side of the phone. This design makes it very difficult to put the phone with the connector still in place in a pocket, not to mention the car holder for older fastport models that is totally incompatible for these phones. And when we are at it, why are some fastport connectors designed in a way that it is impossible to connect to the back connector of the cst-75 charger while some, like the earplugs hpm-70, are possible to connect? For example, the FM radio transmitter mmr-70 or the external speakers mps-70 cannot be connected through the charger, which is especially irritating since these accessories consume some extra power.

Let's hope for the new micro USB plug that is to become a standard, or, meanwhile, that a decent 3.5 mm jack becomes available on coming models.

Posted by max_wedge
The fastport doesn't "break".

I've used the fast port since K750 and the only problem I've had with it is the contacts on the phone get dirty easily because they are so exposed.

The solution is simple, clean them regularly with isopropyl alcohol or some other contact cleaner solution, and the connection stays good as gold. Literally - it's gold plated

I've used the same HPM-70 across two phones for nearly 3 years. I use it everyday, on the train, riding bike and walking. I use it with a case, but you have make sure the case isn't jammed between the phone and the fasport plug when you plug it in. Or just cut the hole bigger so it fits properly. The case problem with fastport is the design of the case not SE's fault.

In my car I use an mmc-60 plugged into my generic fm transmitter, with the SE fast port car charger (which has pass through, as do all new AC chargers), so you certainly can charge and listen to music at the same time.

So you reckon it's ugly? Well to each their own but personally I think you are over reacting a little, or rather too pre-occupied with your appearance if it's size embarrases you.

When it's on the side I agree it's a stupid place, but not all new SE phjones have it on the side. I think SE are dropping this convention (hopefully) as G900, W960 and other new phones all seem to have it on the bottom again. Actually notice the N95 has the 3.5mm on the side, this is even more stupid since lateral flexing of 3.5mm sockets causes them to fail very quickly. N95 is a phone I would not be putting on my pocket with headset plugged in - it will damage the socket. Fastport on the side however, may pull the plug out, but won't damage the plug and definitely won't damage the fastport contacts on the phone.

The fastport is actually a very damage resistant connector, but you have to keep it clean if you want good performance. Simple as that.

You have the solutions to your problems, but you have been over-reacting to the problems and getting frustrated and missing the actual solution.

Relax a little, keep your fastport clean, and you should have a lot less problems.



Posted by PhR34k
Geez, everyone here thinks they are SE guru's. I am not doing anything wrong i have read the manual and they explain how to pull it out! If you still insist that im doing wrong take it with sony ericsson and tell them to rewrite their manual!

And my port doesnt get dirty cause i have the like 3 unused handsfrees that i have got with diffrent SE phone and i dont use them cus they arent "in ear", anyhow when i connect them it works fine but as soon as i connect the "old" handsfree i cant use it to talk (people cant hear me), sometimes i cant even hear music til i pull it in and out like 10 times, other times it makes the phone to reboot. That are some of the bugs! And it has nothing todo with it being dirty. The fastport is a bad idea. If you have a brand new SE and connect the handsfree to it, if you feel on the connected hf on the phones fastport it feels firm but after a couple of days in the pocket you can feel that it isnt as firm anymore. It's obvious that it bends back and forword in the pocket and the connector on the handsfree is made in plastic its too fragile and if you cant understand that after some "real" usage it will brake then you dont know what your talking about! I dont have the phone on the side fixed on the belt like oldie, it looks rediculous i have it in my front pocket! The fastport is crap just admit it you cant compare it to a 3.5mm!

Posted by max_wedge
Please don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. If you didn't hear me the first time, I've used ONE HPM-70 for 3 years with NO problems. I also have two standard headsets (that come with the phone) that I also use regularly and no problems with them either. I'm an extensive user of SE phones and fastport products including use in all kinds of environments and situations. So I DO have the experience to back up what I'm saying.

I've never had a fastport accessory restart a phone. It's your flipping phone that's faulty, it's a lemon. It's not a fastport problem.

Your pocket is the wrong place to keep your phone if you want to use a headset. It's true a usb miniplug or 3.5mm will be more secure against being loosened, but the forces that pop the fastport off or loosen it in your pocket will actually damage the usb-mini or 3.5mm socket over time. Better to damage the accessory than the phone itself don't you think?

If your fastport accessories become damaged in short time, then you must be doing something wrong.

There is a possible reason not keeping the contacts clean could cause you to have to replace headsets sooner than normal. If the headset becomes looser, it will still make a good contact if the contacts are clean. I have had this happen on occasion (new headsets worked when old one's didn't, until I clean the contacts then the old one works again). But though the fastport loses some of it's rigidity in the first three months, it doesn't get any worse, and from then on all you need to do is keep the contacts clean.



_________________
File System Tweaks for the K750 K750 Tricks
K800 Tips and Themes
Max's K800 Page

[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2008-03-26 15:16 ]

Posted by NightBlade
I've used my K810 for 10 months now and I've got no problems with the fastport. Same goes for my best friend. She's had a K750 for about 2 years now and she rarely has any problems with it.

Posted by Lo-couk
I've been using my headphones I got with my first W550i on my k750i and K800i for years and their still working fine. So far, the female connectors on all my phones have been fine, they've just needed a clean with a fine fibreglass stick occasionally, and the male connector is still as good as new.
Maybe your female connectors needs a clean, it van get crap in there quite easily.

Posted by skblakee
My fast port broke the same day I got a p990 and then I let off a few colorful words about how smart it is.
That fast port is a disadvantage to phones.

fast port

Posted by bearcub24
It will be good when all manufacturers come to their senses and just use a 3.5mm jack for headphones and mini/micro USB for power/data. Not singling SE out, Nokia, Samsung are all the same. My work phone, a BB pearl just has a mini USB and a 3.5mm jack, make life easier.

Posted by Mizzle

On 2008-03-26 06:07:32, PhR34k wrote:
The fastport is crap just admit it you cant compare it to a 3.5mm!


I'm quite sick of replying to your posts, so I'll leave you with a last one...

I've got years of experience with phones so please don't think that I don't know what I am talking about. Oh - will a 3.5 mm jack connector work with USB 2.0 cables? Or with any of the other non-music related accessories from

Posted by goldenface
The fastport broke on my W900i but that was my own fault. I tend to find that its the connector on the accessories that I have any problems with, not on the phone itself.

Posted by kenoby
I have K850i and P1i and no problems whatsoever with their fastports. Mini usb and a 3.5 mm jack are just pockets for dust. And as few have already said, 3.5 mm jack on Nokia N95 is just inviting to be broken, it is even hard to place it properly in the pocket with the headphones plugged in. Anyways, to each its own, Imo the whole thing about this subject is over reacted.

Posted by bearcub24
It is handy knowing you can charge via mini USB using just the one cable, although I've heard that some manufacturers are moving to micro USB as their standard.

Posted by arien617
Honestly if there were an industry standard things would be simple!
The FastPort does work well, although in my old V600i it has rusted :s
Usually the problem lies with the actual connector bit, don't know the name, the one that goes into the phone.
Seriously phones would be perfect if they just stuck a nice 3.5mm jack on the top of the phone for sound only. No video. No data. Just sound.
Using a normal set of earphones would be so much easier and plugging into a larger output. If you want wired handsfree, simple. Keep using the current method. just needs to butch up the connectors a bit.


Pages: 1 2
Click to view updated thread with images


© Esato.com - From the Esato mobile phone discussion forum