Posted by Orka
I am not trying to be offensive to anyone. I hope this is clear. However, many people are saying that in someway they have seen a "new T68". To be honest I believe that these are rumors. I am participating in this forum for more than 3 months and I can say that is among the best on the net. A lot of my questions found a good answer from people here in esato and I want to thank you for this. However, many time people are saying different things such as: new t68i, new t68m, new t68 with this or that color... and so on. I would like to ask you to be more accurate in things like the above described because the only thing we are doing by discussing these rumors it to spread them! Sometimes also we confuse people. Thank you for your understanding.
[ This Message was edited by: Orka on 2002-02-12 22:23 ]
Posted by john74
I agree with Orka to many people are posting bullshit and previous topics can those people read the previous posts before posting NEW topics???
Posted by mpakakos
...no guys... sorry but you are wrong, the T68i is true!
I can guarranty you that!
I work for a chain store here in Greece (in Germanos, you guys know that better!) and I asked the sales manager from Ericsson that came 10 days ago (very good friend of mine) and he told me that a new T68 version is going to come up on the selves in about 2 months from now.
It's name will be T68i!!!!
Posted by john74
No i know about the T68i release but the other issues about Metallic silver,blue T68,and a lot of i heard storys
Posted by mpakakos
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Yes, I totally agree with you!
Posted by Orka
The problem is not the existance of T68i. Obviously you didn't catch the meaning of my post... Anyway, doens't matter.
Anyway, we'll see about t68i ...
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Posted by mpakakos
Orka! ...wait a minute!
Don't shot!
You probably didn't catch the meaning of my post too!
I didn't tell you that the guys in Germanos know anything about the T68!
They don't know anything!!!
I guarranty you that.
I'm searching and know some thing about the T68.
And I remind you that a Sales Manager from ericsson told me about the T68i, not the others in Germanos!
...And I don't like either the Germanos stores!
p.s. I work in Germanos monastiraki.
...if you want please come by anytime to know each other!
I will be glad to see you!
Posted by Von Space
you guys aren't very smart are you?...the t68i isn't 'new' as it could be defined...it is just a t68m with a new software version ....it will have the mms software edition with all the nice stuff ericsson could not put in it when they launched the phone,because many operators weren't ready for them.For example....i live in italy and here one of the major mobile phone operators is named Omnitel,which has recently been bought by Vodafone (the enormous british phone company) and vodafone has recently choosed ericsson for the first launch of the mms service here in italy...so...this means that when the new software release will be ready the ericsson service points will make us pay to make our t68m become a t68i (this is proved by the fact that here in italy the price of a t68m has already starded getting lower...because the shop owners know that a new model is coming up next...so...do not worry...our t68m won't be old,....because a simple software update will solve all problems.
Posted by Orka
You are too fast ...
I didn't understand your message correctly, sorry for this. I read it once more and then I withdraw the "Germanos" story. Sorry for this. I didn't say though, that I don't like Germanos stores. I said they lack information.
Posted by Orka
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Ok. We have discussed all these things extensively in previous posts. The purpose of the post is not the existance of t68i, but the rumors spreading around...
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...and I said that I agree with you about the luck of information in these stores!
...and sth else, my T68 was one of the first 50 pieces that came in Greece when it was firts released in 1st of November
...so I think that I knw some thing about that mobel as I was searching for it from July!
...but... thank God I don't want to be offencive with you,
ok?
...everything cool!!!
(den sta leo afta gia na se prosvalo orka, pros theou! Ok? Aplos dieykriniseis kano! lol
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Posted by mfo
I have not heard of any "new" T68 from my contacts in Ericsson, but there is a new version of the firmware available that implements MMS support and a few other things.
Whether they decide to rename the phone based on that I don't know, but it surely seems unlikely. The cost of new advertising materials, and assorted other required things would seem to cost more than it was worth.
Ericsson has never done this in the past with new Firmware, even when new functionality was introduced (such as the POP Email client on the R520).
-Michael
http://www.sonyericzone.com/
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Posted by mpakakos
has done that before mfo with T20e,
T20s --> T20e
Posted by jh67
A ORKA are saying,..its all more or less different rumours.
NO One can say these things for sure.
NO One can confirm anything.
its always : "I've heard from a friends friend inside .........."
I agree with you Orka. A lot of these sorts of posts should be in the rumours-section.
And yes, we've discussed the "letters" in the T-68 a million times,..why keep on doing it,..when no one can confirm anything anyway.
Jan
Posted by Von Space
ok...sorry for not being very clear before....here is more info: The Ericsson T68 will soon have another feature added to its already-formidable arsenal--Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS).
A Sony Ericsson Singapore official revealed to CNETAsia that the widely anticipated MMS software upgrade for the T68 will arrive in March. The upgraded version, called the T68i, could turn existing T68 handsets into the first MMS-capable phones in Singapore. The mobile already sports a color display, triple band technology, General Packet Radio Services (GPRS) and Bluetooth.
MMS, a standard evolved from SMS (Short Messaging Service) and EMS (Enhanced Messaging Service), allows formatted text, images, audio and video clips to be exchanged between compatible handsets.
When first announced, the T68 was intended to be MMS-capable but the feature was withdrawn prior to its late 2001 release. This was due in part to a lack of network support then, said the spokesperson.
This time, he believes M1, SingTel and StarHub will be ready soon for MMS roll-outs.
"We are currently working closely with the network operators in testing MMS and the applications," he said. "We expect the service to be ready by Q2 2002."
The upgrade will add several other enhancements, including some that leverage on the phone's 256-color LCD. For instance, there will be an image browser for viewing JPEG, GIF and WBMP files. Users can also attach the Ericsson CommuniCam camera accessory, which is currently available, and use the T68i's screen as a viewfinder.
Another significant improvement is the addition of User Memory. With this feature, various forms of user data, such as downloaded emails, background pictures and ringtones, will make use of the same memory space. Therefore, when a user has fewer downloaded emails, he can store more background pictures in the phone.
The upgrade will also allow much of the phone data, such as voice memo and user notes, to be sent to other devices via infrared, Bluetooth or MMS.
At press time, Sony Ericsson was unable to confirm the price of the upgrading, which will be available at the company's service centers and service points.
I love you guys..heeheh.....you're so funny..and this site and all the people in it are great....god save the queen..and may the queen save my t68m from being considerated 'old' by a t68i....
eheheh
Posted by jh67
Von Space : You're reading to fast,..read this part from the post again :
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"software upgrade for the T68 will arrive in March. The upgraded version, called the T68i, could turn existing T68 handsets into the first MMS-capable phones in Singapore."
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READ THIS PART: "could turn EXISTING T68 handsets into the first MMS-............."
Meaning that the "i" is just the software, not the phone itself.
They're talking about turning OUR (the existing) handsets into the first mms-handsets.
It actually says pretty clearly, doesnt it
Jan
Posted by Npalamidis
I think we've talked about this many times in this forum.
Any way, last week when I got my phone upgraded to R2B, I talked with a Venezuelan Sonyericsson Representative (he works at SE) and he told me that the T68i is the phone that will have the MMS software installed from Factory. No new HARDWARE, at all, Just MMS software factory installed. Maybe it will have the Sonyericsson logo instead the Ericsson Logo, and will say T68i at the bottom instead T68.
The hardware (Memory, Procesor, Buttons, Screen,etc) all is the same that the actual T68.
at this visit to the SE representative I was able to see and use the T66 & T65 phones. Also the T60d.
Posted by jh67
Npalamidis : Yes we have discussed this before, and even the same article,..and I said the same last time
The "i" is only the software,..people tend to read to fast
And the only difference will be a cover saying T68i and Sonyericsson instead of Ericsson,..nothing else, hehe.
Jan
Posted by arroyootje
Man, even if ALL these rumours are true, will we be able to get them any faster by writing them down here?
I think probably in the future, you'll be able to change the colour of your T68...and if you can't, then you just wait for your year's warranty to expire and then you can paint it or do whatever you want
There will ALWAYS be a better phone coming out sooner or later, at the moment we all have the BEST phone in the world! BE HAPPY ABOUT IT!!!!!
Now stop complaining and enjoy your T68a,b,c,d,.... or whatever other symbol you want to put behind it....
c u
Posted by Raptor
Ok
Lets start the countdown to March the 4. (Week 10) and the BIG MMS update! Let's hope the rumors is true!
19 Days left now!!
Posted by Orka
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Ok, don't worry! No hard feelings, just to discuss few things!
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Thank you for your opinion and your support! I am "watching" you since I joined this forum and I have to say honestly that you always have good positioning and sharp answers to any matters came up! Keep up the good work matte! Congratulations also for your site, but it would be better to give us an English version!
Posted by Dark
They released T68i in Hungary. I've seen it. The design is different, it is nacreous, the keyboard is different, the sign is SonyEricsson instead of Ericsson, it has screen-saver and more background pictures, bigger voice memo, MMS, CommunyCam menu, it has 8 games,2 old ones (Erix, Q) and 6 new ones and Picture Phonebook. That' all I know about it, because it's not mine.
So this is an existing phone!
Now I'm curious if the T68 will know all of these new features with a software upgrade????????????Is it possible to make bigger memory by upgrading T68 with a new software?
Posted by allexdos
Are you sure? I would not have that ericsson would brand their phone with a sonyericsson badge as its an ericsson and production.
I think T68i is an imode phone....
MMS will be called T68
The whole idea of sonyericsson is a joint venture in phone design/production. Its not right to say that sony helped ericsson in the final product of the T68
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Posted by follalapadoo
Hi
I have been observing this site ad the forum fo a log time and I find it very successfull. The reson that I am joiing to forums so late is because I might be working for a compaany that did not make it possible for me to make comments on T68. Bad guess, it doesn't have to be SonyEricsson.
Answers to end all of your concerns:
There are no T68 "i" "m" or whatevers, there is and will be only one T68. More colors (one or two) will come out but later. Those letters might exist but they will only serve the purpose of marketing mambo jambo for different markets such as the far east, indicating different standards other than GSM or other languages.
The phone was soley developed by Ericsson R&D guys, so it will never carry the logo of SonyEricsson on the hard case. New coming other phones will do. Software logos will all be SonyEricsson.
Coming to the software: The new phones that will come out in a month will carry the new MMS software, but they will look exactly the same as your current T68.
Your phones wll be upgraded free of charge at SonyEricsson servie centers. The new software will have an animation of SonyEricsson at start instead of the rising sun. It will support picture phonebook, a picture manager that will allow you to store more than one background. You will also be able to set one of the pictures or Gif animations as screensaver. You will have approximtely 800kB of space to allocte to your pictures, better themes, GIF animations and MMS messages. An average quality picture takes about 3-5kB of space, animations about 8-11kB of space nd an MMS around 30kB of space, you do the math. Jpeg viweing is possible but at 256 colors and small screen size, trust me Gif format has a much better performance
New camera for T68 is also on the way, called MCA-20. Expect to hear about this officially in about a little more than a month. With this, the screen of T68 will become a real time visor, you will be able to shoot photos and see them instantly on screen, save them and send them as e-mail or MMS. The picture quality is also a litle better than the MCA-10. This camera will lso be able store 20 pctures in its own memory.
Trust me I know what I am talking about... Your phones are as good as the coming ones. Just wait and see... But I can not give you more informtion right know.
All of this informtion is correct although can not be considered official.
Have a nice day folks
Follapadoo
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Well how would you confirm it on a bulletin board? I don't necessarily agree with you guys. If you have a good source in the company(Ericsson or
) and you get first-hand information on the T68 for instance, I consider that more than a rumour. However, I wouldn't consider a friend's friend's, or a friend's dad's friend's(or... you get the point) word-of-mouth, anything but a rumour(gossip, really).
I could add quite a lot to what this discussion started, but I have already done so, and also since it wasn't the intention from the original poster I won't go there.
Posted by Orka
To follalapadoo
Hey, my friend thank you for your information. It is very helpful and I hope you will discourage some people from spreading ruomors. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge with us.
Posted by Orka
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I believe that the problem is not the source.It is far more important to consider: what are the purposes of spreading a rumor and not a fact? I mean, one guys saw a T68 brushed silver! Ok fine. No problem. We saw also some pictures of it. At the end we learned that this cover was the original one but someone stained it silver. The meaning was not that one changed the cover's colour. The meaning was that Ericsson offers T68 silver. The same story also applies for the blue T68.
I am a bit reluctant to these "news". I tend to believe only what I see with my own eyes.
Posted by Mastercomilao
Thanks mate! Every day I īm more excitted about the MMS upgrade, especially about the 800k , I already considered the 600k a very good memory!
Forgive but can you also confirme when are we getting our hands on that BOMB! 4th of March was a already said here in Esato, true?
Many thanks again and greetings from Portugal
Posted by Orka
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Can you please give us some photos or an evidence that this phone exists? How do you explain that this phone is beeing sold already only in Hungary and not in any other European country?
Posted by jh67
Hey ORKA
Thank you very much. I try to be as honest as possible,..and dont get to much "carried away". I would like too, that many of the things were true,..but I'll rather wait and see for myself,..or at least have some sort of proof.
As you say too,..I cant really see the point in going on and on with the same thing, when one doesnt know if stories are true or not.
I couldnt aggree more with You on this subject
When its a reliable source that tells the story,..then its a different thing,..then I would believe it.
But I find it specially hard to believe, when someone states something, and cant show some sort of info,..it could be anything for that matter.
Especially the stories like : I've heard from a friends friend.....
I usually "go" with the facts,..and tell/reply/post things I know about,...not things I've heard somewhere else. When I've "seen" something, I try to post it together with some info/link or picture.
I believe that You are pretty much the same kind of person as me, when it comes to this.
And I always enjoy reading your posts too
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Its okay with me to have rumours and thoughts, and people hearing about things from sources and "non-sources".
We all hear/see "something" from different sources,..e.g. websites.
The funny thing is though, when people read an article,..they tend to read the part that interest them,..meaning a lot of times, they will miss something obvious.
E.g. the article about the T-68 and mms:
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"T-68i will turn existing handsets into the first mms-handsets"
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This text means that OUR handsets will get the mms,...nothing else.
It was misunderstood many times, as: "there will be a new T-68 called i".
People focused on the T68i, and didnt read the rest, hehe.
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I am considering making my website in english, adding new pictures.
When I'm going to update it, I will do this too.
I hope I'll have the time, to do this soon.
Thanks again, Orka
Jan
Posted by Dark
To follalapadoo
What you wrote sounds great and I believe you but how can it be that you can buy T68i with SonyEricsson logo in GSM shops. Is it possible that this phone was released by SonyEricsson inofficially?
To Orka
That T68i which I've seen is not mine (unfortunately) but you can buy it GSM shops which are not official SonyEricsson centers.I'll try to get some pictures for you.
I do not lie I saw this T68i one week after I bought my T68m I1m really upset about this and I hope that T68m will know all these new features by software upgrading !!!!!
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OK, I am not implaying that you lie! I am saying that I cannot understand you. Your country is probably the first and only which has unnoficial ericsson service centers and of course the "new"
phone, as oy said. I am just curious to see it!
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Posted by Orka
Thanx a lot Jan. It seems finally that more or less we both share the same thoughts and thinking.
I don't ask you to put on your site more background images like the ones we can found around. Just put some, like these you already have! I mean, that you have the best images I've ever seen. Few, but with high quality and selected by someone with good taste!
Looking forward for the English version!
Posted by jucame
Thanks follalapadoo great article on this subject I believe you more than 100%, please Ericsson give us the new MMS software as soon as posible, canīt wait longer.
Posted by john74
So whats this about a new communicam camera so the few of us who bought the first model have obviously wasted our money!!!Any official releases on a web site yet??Will the present model be able to view on the T68 screen the photos taken??
Posted by jh67
ORKA >
Thanks
Well, I might not move the current pictures from the website,..but I do have some more pics, which I'll put up anyway, when I'm gonna "redo" the site
Jan
Posted by fatbastard
Believe it or not the T68i exists (It's not rumour, because I tried it for some hours:).
Why can you buy it in Hungary? It's not final, arrived in a white box labelled NOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE or sg like that. So I think it's in beta stage. The phone itself is not a good looking one, light silver color, with metallic blue top, with no metal-like Yes/No buttons, and a white painted! sony-ericsson text. It's not so elegant like T68m, and the back of the phone is hard coated. It has 56 background images, and you can delete them (one of my friends tried a phone with just 12 backgrounds, so I think it's really a beta), it has 4 predefined styles like summer, autumn, ..., but you can download new ones instead. The games were not so many like Dark said, because the solitaire like games were in the main game menu, there was Naval, but no GAME etc, had MMS ofcourse, and all memory was counted together, there was ~540k of ram, which I could use for backgrounds, themes, etc. The switch on/off logo was the green sonyericsson one, not earth. Finally my conclusion was the software is really good (except for the long waitings with a Windows style hour-glass), but I didn't like the cheap young-looking hardware design. And one more thing for the beta thing: the sw version was r1a.
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Posted by Dark
To fatbastard
Yeeeeeeeeeeeees!!!!Now they don't think any longer that T68i exists only in my mind!It looked the same as you wrote but there was no "this is not for commercial use" (or something like that) sign on the white box. I could not examine the phone (because i only saw it in a GSM shop, they did not give it to my hands) so that's why i was
wrong with the games. You can buy T68i in Hungary in GSM shops (they sell used phones too) which are not official service centers. Is it possible that they got the phone not in a very "official" way from somewhere, maybe from SonyEricsson???????????
I'll try to get some pictzures of T68i.
I'd like to know if my T68m will know all these new features (like T68i especially 540k of ram) by software upgrading or not?????????????????????Do you something about this?
Posted by fatbastard
And 3 more things for T68i; the earpiece's hole is not 3s verically as in T68m, it's like a single horizontal Oakley sign, and the buttons backlight is lightblue, more readable in dark as T68m's. The melody composer is graphical, too.
Posted by john74
How come only you guys got it in Hungary and we havent even seen a demo version not even a single photo on the web site???I believe there will be a T68i but how did you guys view it??
Posted by fatbastard
Who is producing the Ericsson phones, Flextronics? I don't know the exact name, but they have a plant here in Hungary
Maybe that's the solution, and these phones are stolen from the factory, or betas like I said before, I really don't know, but the fact is fact, it exists.
Posted by Orka
What can I say now? My topic was about stop spreading rumors and we did the best possible way we could! Even I did it... Anyway, its a little bit controversial that this phone exists only in Hungary. Maybe that country is choosen by
as beta tester... I don't know what elese to say.
Posted by mikaalto
Only 12 days left.
Posted by Golden Boy
show me the money
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Posted by arroyootje
Dark---> how much does it cost there? Would it be possible to buy it and have it sent out of the country?
Posted by apaman
I got this from another forum
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Nokia the Past, Ericsson the Future!!
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Posted by Dark
Hello everybody!
I just got this message from Ericsson-Hungary
"We do not have any information about T9 but we looking forward to its release.The new T68i will have MMS function which is under testing.Unfortunately T68m is not suitable to all these new T68i functions."
The sofware upgrading won't solve memory problems:(
I really thinking about selling my T68m and buy T68i but I'm afraid that there is still no official T68i.
Posted by Harleydog
Dark, and everyone else,
I have a T68m like everyone else that was flashed with a beta version of the MMS software and I can tell you it has the following features
MMS of Course
Picturebook-50 Pics
Composer-Animated
Screensaver
Sony/// on start-up and shut-donwn
Games-All Card, plus game and Q; no naval and no Tetris
Hour glass/windows function
quicker T9 input
GPRS quicker
Theme editor
Again this is a beta version and its still has some problems, sometimes it hangs, inadvertently freezes, not really a problem.
SO bottom line is that the current t68m will support all of these functions. This is not to say that a new T68i with all of this already programmed will not be released.. who really knows except Sony/// :/
Posted by Dark
To Harleydog
Please give me some more information about this beta version.
How many background pictures can be stored?
Is the Voice memo bigger?
Number of SMS?
Bigger User Memory?