Posted by razec
Having seen the Samsung Soul, XPERIA X1, G900's updated UIQ, C902, N96's S60 3.2, ASUS ZX1. all those phones have a very capable and cool looking User interface much more intriguing when we talk about their fancy animations in the interface. does this mean 2008 will be also a user interface war?
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Posted by himlims_nl
don't want to spoil your fun, but android os will win
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
Isn't android, just the core system though? basically any UI could be implemented on top of that.
Posted by QVGA
I think only samsung and SE are fighting over this at the moment. Samsung with their U900, F480. And SE with their Gxxx and XPERIA
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Posted by jemuel
the way i see it, there has always been war on any electronic products. windows vs. mac os, S60 vs. WM vs UIQ, blu ray vs. HDDVD. MS vs(other memory cards). there would always be that war unless there would be monopoly in a certain area.
Posted by Mizzle
On 2008-03-07 14:41:03, whentheleveebreaks wrote:
Isn't android, just the core system though? basically any UI could be implemented on top of that.
Indeed, that's correct.
However, we haven't seen nothing yet
UIQ will soon be much updated, and I guess S60 would be as well at some point.
Posted by Dogmann
@Razec
You left out S60 Touch UI.
@all
I actually think you are right but i think this has more to do with the change we are seeing in smart phone ownership. Whilst once smart phones where the preserve of the Buisness user or techno geek smart phones have gone more mainstream and Multimedia smart phones are going to be the biggest sellers and largest market IMO.
Really this is due to few things that have changed the first being the rise in availability of fixed price data plans meaning using large amounts of data is possible at a reasonable cost, add to this the greatly improved data speeds that allow the user to get rich content on thier device and fast, and lastly the great improvements in both processors, graphics and the actual screens themselves all leading to a better quality user experience.
All the above mean the end user can get virtually anything he does on his main PC whilst mobile all these new UI's have far greater use and implications for the Multimedia user. Especially when you look at the rise of Social Networking and IM, even Blackberry have diversified into covering Multimedia as well as just Buisness apps.
If you think of it what a Buisness user really needs is E-Mail usually of the push variety and good document viewers and editors, some business's ban any device with a Camera. While it may be nice to have a good Music and Video player they can hardly be considered killer apps or must haves on a business device. Eye candy is not really that important to a business user functionallity and reliability is.
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Posted by whentheleveebreaks
I am bias, but as an interface i haven't used one better than that on the iPhone
Posted by jemuel
@marc
while good GUI or "eye candy" as you may call it may not be that important, it's still a nice touch and one may feel a phone's "personality". in one way or another, it may be relaxing to a user considering business users are mostly stressed out, and they deserve something good to look at.
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Posted by aksd
On 2008-03-07 16:36:25, QVGA wrote:
I think only samsung and SE are fighting over this at the moment. Samsung with their U900, F480. And SE with their Gxxx and XPERIA
We'll you're greatly mistaken there. the SE UI is nothing but a tiny app, something like your HTC cube. Nothing specatcular or ground breaking like the iPhone UI. IN reality the Asus UI is far more impressive than SE's panels.
The G900 again, is very cosmetic, not far reaching into the user interface. So its ruled out as well.
What will be interesting to look at will be:
1. Google Android(check out the latest SDK to feel the UI, it'll be far more advanced when it launches for sure)
2. S60 Touch
3. WIndows Mobile 7(early 2009)
4. Apples new 3G iPhone, they might change some things there.
Posted by Dogmann
@jemuel
While you may well be right for individual users that purchase there devcies on a one by one basis either via there company or by themselves. At Corporate level where buying decisions are made for a whole company i promise you eye candy counts for very little compared to functionallity and stability. But as i said the Buisness sector isn't going to be the dominant force for smart phones much longer anyway IMO.
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Posted by jemuel
@jemuel
At Corporate level where buying decisions are made for a whole company i promise you eye candy counts for very little compared to functionallity and stability. But as i said the Buisness sector isn't going to be the dominant force for smart phones much longer anyway IMO.
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totally agree with you on that... but what's gonna be the dominant force for smartphones then? considering you meant average users are gonna be the next big market for smartphones, then eye candy's gonna be much more important. example is the iphone. despite its very restricted functions(no bluetooth file transfer, no mms, can't have mp3s as ringtones), pepole still buy that stuff, mostly because of the UI.
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Posted by BobaFett
yeah, but those ppl doesnt have many expectations imo. they take it cos its sg different or cos they like ipods, o whatever, but thats it imo.
symbian os and wm system are the 2 ones, which has real support and good feedbeack. uiq fans are in the second place, se has got still good chances in this "war". any other os else doesnt count for me, samsung and any other toy factories arent worth to mention imo
Posted by jemuel
On 2008-03-08 03:20:41, BobaFett wrote:
samsung and any other toy factories arent worth to mention imo
never liked samsung either. they concentrate the looks on the outside but not on the inside. their OS is crap. ULTRA's UI hasn't change a lot since the first samsung color screen phone IMO.
Posted by DarkKrypt
your forgetting openmoko
which i think will be the most impressive of them all - espcially since its opensource too,,, LINUX FOR THE WIN!:D
view the link below started by axxxr
and ended by me with additional new links to openmoko
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=140002#post2245184
Posted by QVGA
On 2008-03-08 03:20:41, BobaFett wrote:
samsung and any other toy factories arent worth to mention imo
toy factories? you know there are other platforms than smartphones. calling the 2nd largest manufacturer a toy factory, there must be a good reason for that.
Posted by Dogmann
@jemuel
I have mentioned many times before the shift in usage of smart phones IMO is going to be for Multimedia use, with the rise of Social Networking, IM, and Music and Video and all that Web 2.0 will deliver.
If you look at Nokia the N series Multimedia smart phones are alreday outselling the E Series, i am pretty sure the S60 Touch UI is going to be seen on Multimedia smart phones and am not even sure it will ever expand to to the Buisness devices. This doesn't mean that these devices will be devoid of all and any Buisness functionality as obviously they won't. They will all still have E-Mail capability and Document readers but they will geared and much more entertainment focused.
By the end of this year we will see if i am right or not, but for those that don't get the iPhone it is not a business device and IMO was never meant to be one. Love it or hate no one can really disagree that what it does it does very well, possibly the best Web and Video experience currently available.
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Posted by jemuel
On 2008-03-08 16:16:38, Dogmann wrote:
@jemuel
but for those that don't get the iPhone it is not a business device and IMO was never meant to be one. Love it or hate no one can really disagree that what it does it does very well, possibly the best Web and Video experience currently available.
Marc
true.... BIG misconception about phones: if it's touchscreen, it's a smartphone.
aside from it being from apple, the touchscreen concept raised consumer's expectations much higher. hardwarewise, iphone has a potential on being a smartphone considering its high processor speed and high ram.
Posted by mib1800
In terms of "attractiveness" (which may not mean functional or ease of use
) Iphone UI just cannot be beaten at the moment or in 2008. Certainly not by the X1 with its frankenstein-type screwed on panels or S60 Touch which has to carry the "backward compatible to S60 one hand use" baggage.
Android may have a chance to upstage Iphone but I doubt WM70 will due to fact it has to cater to many device configurations (like the S60 Touch). Android and WM7 will also be at a disadvantage as the one who made the OS does not make the hardware like Apple Iphone.
Posted by razec
On 2008-03-09 05:14:00, mib1800 wrote:
In terms of "attractiveness" (which may not mean functional or ease of use
) Iphone UI just cannot be beaten at the moment or in 2008. Certainly not by the X1 with its frankenstein-type screwed on panels or S60 Touch which has to carry the "backward compatible to S60 one hand use" baggage.
Too early to judge X1's UI imo
You have just seen a little portion of X1's entire UI. X1's UI has yet another UI design which is called the carousel interface (you saw it on ASUS ZX1 don't you? ) and i don't think SE UI division won't touch the it's Windows OS so as to have the same level of user experience as with their Updated UIQ 3/A200 UI. And you may call it frankenstein but i wonder what would you say if you have used the UI(that's when if ever you would dare to try and use it
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Posted by Brightspark
On 2008-03-07 16:58:34, Dogmann wrote:
Eye candy is not really that important to a business user functionallity and reliability is.
i agree very much with that. too much eye candy gets in the way of the user experience IMO. it's the reason why i run (say) a plain gnome interface on my linux desktop and have no time for using compiz-fusion with all it's 3D windows and silly effects.
it's also the reason why a website with good use of colour and layout will always be more preferable to a flash based website.
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