Posted by djin
norbinw,
I bought mine from www.cellswholesale.com , and they ship it from honk kong(which i didnt know). They have it for 510$ now! I have flashed it with uk rom, and tried with some other roms as well using xda, and they work on x1i.
Posted by cedykman
Can anyone tell me why a X1i would not work in Canada or USA. I notice that one has 850 band and the other 900 - what does that really mean? Thanking you all in advance.
Posted by garfield88
I have a chinese rom. Whenever I use the keyboard, it will set chinese as default. I need to switch back to English everytime. Is there a way to set english input as default??
Posted by tai020381
Reflash using a UK ROM?
Posted by spine6
@tai
Is that ok to flash a UK rom in a chinese rom??
Posted by tai020381
I think shouldn't be a problem, but dun take my word for it. Go to xda-developers.com, log in as free member and ask the gurus there would be a better decision. There the ppl cook ROMs like, WOW~~~~ But I'm currently using official R3 ROM with some boosting softwares. Search back a few pages to see what I did to my phone, also gotten from that site.
Posted by Supa_Fly
My provider officially launched the X1 here in Canada. VERY late
- but its better late than never because the retail from them, slightly branded (firmware startup/shutdown screens) brings the street price down to $600 CAN which means BNIB or unlocked slightly used brings it further down 
I'm considering:
X1
the metal-silver walkman W705?
Nokia E72 (late September)
or do I wait all the way till December (NAM release of Satio or something better) ?? hmm.
Posted by se_dude
You also have the Xperia X2 for december.
Posted by WhyBe
On 2009-06-24 08:38:56, Prom1 wrote:
My provider officially launched the X1 here in Canada. VERY late
- but its better late than never because the retail from them, slightly branded (firmware startup/shutdown screens) brings the street price down to $600 CAN which means BNIB or unlocked slightly used brings it further down
I'm considering:
X1
the metal-silver walkman W705?
Nokia E72 (late September)
or do I wait all the way till December (NAM release of Satio or something better) ?? hmm.
Well, if you wait until December, certainly they'll have announced or rumoured something even better than the X2 and you'll be waiting all over again for THAT one. If you got the X1 late ,what makes you think you'll get the next high-end SE phone on time? Better enjoy the X1 now
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2009-06-24 16:02 ]
Posted by doministry
Especially when X1 is a great device man.
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2009-06-24 17:00:50, WhyBe wrote:
On 2009-06-24 08:38:56, Prom1 wrote:
My provider officially launched the X1 here in Canada. VERY late
- but its better late than never because the retail from them, slightly branded (firmware startup/shutdown screens) brings the street price down to $600 CAN which means BNIB or unlocked slightly used brings it further down
I'm considering:
X1
the metal-silver walkman W705?
Nokia E72 (late September)
or do I wait all the way till December (NAM release of Satio or something better) ?? hmm.
Well, if you wait until December, certainly they'll have announced or rumoured something even better than the X2 and you'll be waiting all over again for THAT one. If you got the X1 late ,what makes you think you'll get the next high-end SE phone on time? Better enjoy the X1 now
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2009-06-24 16:02 ]
I don't have the X1 - I'm considering it heavily since my provider offers it on subsidy but I'm not locking into another 3yr contract (I just started 3yr contract 4mths ago). More competition will have HSPA here in Canada late fall and better pricing in January next year so I've got to factor in contract cancellation fees before I port my number. Retail X1 is $600.
I chose this avatar to better reflect my use of a smartphone (former E71, current N85).
On 2009-06-24 17:00:50, diministry wrote:
Especially when X1 is a great device man.
I've been reading first hand reviews of slowness with operator (Rogers Wireless) branding. I'm aware WM6.5 ROM is available on some forum to load but I'm not experience enough to waist a $600 phone - or should I say I'm not rich enough to do that to waist a new $600 phone.
Posted by WhyBe
I wouldn't depend on running your X1 day-to-day with WM6.5. It's nice for previewing what is coming for Windows Mobile, but for me, it just wasn't reliable enough for day to day use. UI Response and messaging really suffered. I had to soft-reset my phone twice or more a day for it to behave correctly. With WM6.1 with r2a & r3a, I rarely have to soft-reset.
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2009-06-29 19:14 ]
Posted by nirave
On 2009-06-28 22:19:21, Prom1 wrote:
On 2009-06-24 17:00:50, WhyBe wrote:
On 2009-06-24 08:38:56, Prom1 wrote:
My provider officially launched the X1 here in Canada. VERY late
- but its better late than never because the retail from them, slightly branded (firmware startup/shutdown screens) brings the street price down to $600 CAN which means BNIB or unlocked slightly used brings it further down
I'm considering:
X1
the metal-silver walkman W705?
Nokia E72 (late September)
or do I wait all the way till December (NAM release of Satio or something better) ?? hmm.
Well, if you wait until December, certainly they'll have announced or rumoured something even better than the X2 and you'll be waiting all over again for THAT one. If you got the X1 late ,what makes you think you'll get the next high-end SE phone on time? Better enjoy the X1 now
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2009-06-24 16:02 ]
I don't have the X1 - I'm considering it heavily since my provider offers it on subsidy but I'm not locking into another 3yr contract (I just started 3yr contract 4mths ago). More competition will have HSPA here in Canada late fall and better pricing in January next year so I've got to factor in contract cancellation fees before I port my number. Retail X1 is $600.
I chose this avatar to better reflect my use of a smartphone (former E71, current N85).
On 2009-06-24 17:00:50, diministry wrote:
Especially when X1 is a great device man.
I've been reading first hand reviews of slowness with operator (Rogers Wireless) branding. I'm aware WM6.5 ROM is available on some forum to load but I'm not experience enough to waist a $600 phone - or should I say I'm not rich enough to do that to waist a new $600 phone.
You wouldn't be wasting $600 as whatever you do is fully reversible, AS LONG AS YOU FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES.
I have successfully switched between ROMs on my x1 LOADS of times (probably around 25+) and always been reversible
!
As one post above, check out xda-developers.com... they're the geniuses
Posted by Supa_Fly
@nv1286, thanks for the vote of confidence and reminder of XDA developers. I recall that Microsoft wanted to shut them down; or was it HTC and they backpedaled.
Your post doesn't ensure too much confidence to a newb an WMPro like me ... "AS LONG AS YOU FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES" means be very wary as a newb. IF I where to jump in the changing firmwares on a BB like I did back when I had the 8100 2yrs ago I'd brick it and still find a away to resolve it. Mind you it took me 3hrs to find a solution and waisted half a good futbol semi final game and lots of drinks
but I did get that slow blinking RED light resolved. Plus its backed by warranty. WM doesn't support this when upgrading & downloading - only upgrading by specific release by manufacturer that licensed it.
Posted by brix25
After much back and forth I've decided to make the X1i my next phone.
Posted by bider
I think that everyone who has X1 know, that earlier this year there was a leak of R3 firmware for xperia. It had new panel manager, "growing" panel, new Media Panel and some more new things. After short time Sony Ericsson have made R3 firmware available through SEUS, but there was only few bugs fixed and no sign of all the novelties from the leaked R3. How come the release name is the same? I think the answer is on the youtube video below... The quality is really poor, but I think it's "X2" Vulcan (i know it says so on the startup screen, but I'm speaking about the overal design of the handset). Wondering what is the firmware number? It's R3. I think that the ROM that has leaked earlier this year was just an early build for the Vulcan + WinMob 6.5. It's just an idea, but it might be the reason why the released R3 doesn't have all the novelties. The only problem is that the info tab still shows the old platform (MSM7200) I really hope they will use the hardware from the rumoured Rachael...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk329CfRCzw
Posted by MrMojo1
Just saw some online news reports that SE will officially release "Rachel" as the X3 when it debuts!
If Rachel is X3, what ever happened to the X2 model??
Darn SE for confusing people with their "leaked" publicity stunts... um....news reports!
Posted by doministry
On 2009-07-22 23:25:56, MrMojo1 wrote:
Just saw some online news reports that SE will officially release "Rachel" as the X3 when it debuts!
If Rachel is X3, what ever happened to the X2 model??
Darn SE for confusing people with their "leaked" publicity stunts... um....news reports!
Rachael is a Android device.
With new hardware. No keyboard.
X1 successor is "Vulcan", on WinMo.
Two different phones
Posted by anonymuser
Interestingly, "Rachel" has already appeared briefly for pre-order on Expansys - http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/07/22/android_expansys/ - Expansys have removed it now, but it does suggest that the Android handset may be making it to market sooner.
The Register are calling it the "X2" and inferring that Windows Mobile's been dropped for the Xperia line. Of course that may well be nonsense as we've all seen pictures of "Vulcan" in the wild, but then again, just because prototypes exist doesn't mean that an (as yet unnannounced) phone will actually be released. Just ask Paris.
Posted by 10123
Only £260 at the carphone warehouse
http://www.carphonewarehouse.[....]tyle=All&sortBy=Price&start=60[ This Message was edited by: 10123 on 2009-07-24 13:33 ]
Posted by nirave
Not anymore...
Gone to £500 now
Posted by >500
ok this phone can now be had for about $470usd brand new, sim free.
what are peoples opinions on the phone now that its been out for a while. how is the phones speed with current firmware?
is it worth getting it at this price?
i know the touch diamond 2 can be had for a similar price, i dont think it offers that much more than the x1, considering its a much newer phone, i mean, the processor is the same, is it not? and id much prefer a physical keypad rather than touch screen only...
thoughts please?
thanks in advanced
Posted by anonymuser
The Touch Diamond 2 is newer, will be supported for much longer and has been designed for WM6.5, for which it will definitely get a 100% legit upgrade from HTC shortly.
The X1 is effectively discontinued now, is widely regarded as a failure for SE (SE's boss described it as an "experiment" recently), and it's due to be quietly dropped or replaced very soon so won't be getting any official update to 6.5 - personally I'd steer well clear.
Posted by >500
discontinued?
not upgradeable to 6.5, where did you read this?
obviously
has bought the license for 6.5, so its definately possible. the hardware seems to be able to support it.
was the x1 really that bad? the one at work, even with old firmware, is definately better than all the other wm we have, omnia, diamond, touch pro etc. its just more stable imho
Posted by anonymuser
Well it's been withdrawn from Vodafone's lineup in the UK, that's not a good sign. I know it might not seem like the X1's been out very long, but this is a phone that was announced in February 2008 (when it seemed pretty cutting edge) and which should have really hit the market for last summer - in the end it barely made it to stores in time for Christmas, by which time the likes of HTC etc already had directly competing phones in place - like the Touch Pro for example, another qwerty device with essentially the same hardware. The Touch Pro 2 is already out now, the X2 (not to mention the X3) has been pictured in spy-shots, and the X1 (a phone we first saw 17 months ago now) is looking old.
I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed the X1 won't be getting 6.5 - just because they're putting it on the X2 doesn't mean they'll release it for the older model too, although of course "cooked" unofficial ROMs exist.
The X1 isn't "bad" per se, just not very successful. Personally I think they concentrated too much on getting it as small as it could be, while forgetting that actually WM6 is really not optimal for that size of screen, despite the high resolution. It needs to be bigger to be practical, and WM is a practical, not pretty OS.
Posted by snoFlake
Soooo my bro's X1 - bought in late Dec 2008, broke last week; no longer responding to the slider. No it isn't in a case but he never puts any in cases and tends to renew yearly but it's a pretty terrible performance for a +£500 phone. We're talking Sony fanboy here: Vaios (which actually have been v poor recently) the lot and he's been buying Ericsson and SE phones even longer than me - and that's another long term premium phone customer SE have lost. No workee no buyee.
Posted by >500
@boinng
what recent smartphones with large screen, and physical keyboard would you recommend then? for around the same price? (by price i mean prices from ebay, ive never had any problems buying from there) must have wifi and hsdpa
curious as to what you put well ahead of others?
Posted by anonymuser
Well I'm not sure how the prices compare these days, but if it had to be Qwerty winmo device (and last year's prices so to speak) I'd pick the Touch Pro over the X1. It's a little bigger, which gives you a better keyboard and more standard screen size/resolution, and as far as I know it's got a better build reputation than the X1 - no cracks that I've heard of. It's also got an accelerometer (which the X1 lacks) making it a little more compatible with some of the newer software available.
Posted by >500
doesnt have to be winmo but as i said, i prefer the x1 over the touch pro. its better all round imho going by the devices at work.
ok budget of no more than 300gbp then...
i like the e55, and the e52. e52 which is out already
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2009-07-27 13:55 ]
Posted by doministry
I would never put HTC Touch Pro in the same line as X1. I had both.
X1 is in fact - IMO - very good device. HTC has a shitty screen compared to SE,
I mean really worse.
Also TP is worse build than X1, especially slider mechanism which is much worse at HTC too.
In opposition what Boinng tries to suggest, X1 screen res.: 800 x 480
is a "normal" res of all new and upcoming WinMos.
I would also STRONGLY recommend X1 over TP 2 since
HTC has NO flash in camera at all (SIC!)
and NO headphone jack.
And NO hardware controls which is pain in the ass sometimes.
In reverse adds absolutely nothing over X1.
So for it's price now, X1 is great choice.
I use it for 7 months on R1 firmware and it's the best SE device I ever had.
>500, go for it.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2009-07-27 14:52 ]
Posted by Sammy_boy
Just a quick question as I'm getting one of these on Wednesday hopefully and have read slightly conflicting reports - how does the signal strength of the X1 compare to other mobiles? Where I work the buildings seem to block a lot of mobile signals, my current P1i is pretty good compared to my Touch Diamond and other phones, would the X1's signal strength/RF performance be similar to the P1i's?
Posted by >500
@sammy_boy
keep in mind metal tend to be worse with reception compared to plastic
Posted by Sammy_boy
Mind you the P1i has a metal front casing and does well with signal, though the X1 has more on it I believe?
Just hoping I get a similar reception on the X1 as I do on the P1i at work! Might have to have the P1 as my 'work' phone otherwise!
Posted by anonymuser
On 2009-07-27 15:50:42, doministry wrote:
X1 is in fact - IMO - very good device. HTC has a shitty screen compared to SE,
I mean really worse.
That's really subjective - the HTC's is arguably more readable since it's not trying to squeeze such high resolution into such a small space, and text and graphics etc are more appropriately sized (IMHO).
For the Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2 they've gone to the same resolution as the X1 it's true, but they've also upped the screen size to 3.2", making it a lot more usable.
Also TP is worse build than X1, especially slider mechanism which is much worse at HTC too.
Here's a Google on Xperia crack:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=xperia+crack&meta=
Here's a Google on Touch pro slider:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=touch+pro+slider&meta=
Judge for yourself..
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-07-27 15:36 ]
Posted by doministry
On 2009-07-27 16:24:33, Boinng wrote:
On 2009-07-27 15:50:42, doministry wrote:
X1 is in fact - IMO - very good device. HTC has a shitty screen compared to SE,
I mean really worse.
That's really subjective - the HTC's is arguably more readable since it's not trying to squeeze such high resolution into such a small space, and text and graphics etc are more appropriately sized (IMHO).
For the Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2 they've gone to the same resolution as the X1 it's true, but they've also upped the screen size to 3.2", making it a lot more usable.
Also TP is worse build than X1, especially slider mechanism which is much worse at HTC too.
Here's a Google on Xperia crack:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=xperia+crack&meta=
Here's a Google on Touch pro slider:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=xperia+crack&meta=
Judge for yourself..
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-07-27 15:26 ]
I agree some X1 had built problems.
Mine is from December 2008 (or even earlier), no cracks.
As for screen - well, ok, it is a preference thing.
I love the fact X1 shows so much txt on screen, I hate those oversized menus/letters,
covering the whole screen.
Posted by 10123
If you have an x1 can you upgrade it to the latest windows?
Posted by snoFlake
Apparently X1 build quality not quite so awesome as my brother's slider mech has broken after 7mths business use. In my personal view they're both WM so meh, get whichever cheaper - it's a generic platform basically.
Posted by krazyd007
i hopefully will be getting 1 of these
Posted by WhyBe
How does anyone distinguish from build quality issues and plain old poor phone care?
Posted by Osmano
Good point! I have a crack in my phone after several accidents.....No big deal....The phone works like a dream:-)
Posted by aps
is there firmware thread for x1?
Posted by number2
Can we get this right for once, the X1 is not such a great phone, ive read with interest Domistrys comments, but he is blinkered to its faults, there are so many better phones out there, although of course ''better'' is a matter of opinion, but, the X1 has issues that SE never seem to have got on top of, finding a quality multi-function, business phone, with camera, windows mobile, and all the other features we require, is no longer a matter of sticking with our favorite manufacturer, look at the alternatives, xda-developers are a good starting point, SE are not the STARS they once were.
GOOD LUCK.
Posted by doministry
On 2009-08-21 23:32:24, number2 wrote:
Can we get this right for once, the X1 is not such a great phone, ive read with interest Domistrys comments, but he is blinkered to its faults, there are so many better phones out there, although of course ''better'' is a matter of opinion, but, the X1 has issues that SE never seem to have got on top of, finding a quality multi-function, business phone, with camera, windows mobile, and all the other features we require, is no longer a matter of sticking with our favorite manufacturer, look at the alternatives, xda-developers are a good starting point, SE are not the STARS they once were.
GOOD LUCK.
Well but which are better for you?
Just say it.
I've chosen X1 and as I was really critical, I found it great.
Nothing new is making me get it ASAP. New devices do not perform a cruical change or jump,
no HTC which does really anything new.
As I wrote - we have requirements, personal,
so for what I do etc. it serves better than well.
And sure it has flaws, but there's nothing without it.
I read a lot of reviews and all the new "stars" also perform serious shotcomings.
That's it.
Posted by koto
Agree with Doministry, I don't see anything new that can replace my X1. And after 7-8 months of usage I am more and more satisfied, simply amazing phone with super apps. Probably X2 will be my next choice:-)
Posted by doministry
I'd say similar. X2 probably, however
it's to be seen what Windows 6.5 will show,
for now I have a really mixed emotions about it's UI.
Posted by waibun_lee
I personally agree with number2, these days you don't really get rewarded with brand loyalty. SE used to be a company in the forefront of innovation but now has slipped down the slope and is becoming struggling company. The xperia I thought was going to be great but it wasn't at all, the build quality is poor, the software unusable and a repair centre that seems to be run by idiots after I rang them about the chip on the side of my xperia which was no older than 2 months. Sure the software side maybe subjective to the user but even the most diehard users have to agree that hunting down cabs and transferring them over then installing them is a pain.
On a side note another issue with SE has always been release dates, they announce a phone and it’s not released for best part of half a year if not more. The fact they try to fill the time between handsets with the same old generic mid-end phones is awful. The X2? I think I’m gonna give that one a miss.
Posted by number2
Thanks Walbun Lee,
You have managed to put those points far more eloquently than me, the X1 has some good features, but build quality, late release, pointless panels and SEs usual poor support,to mention but a few things combined to give an Xperience that never lived up to my expectations, though some have allowed brand loyalty to blinker them to the X1s short comings, the phone will not be remembered as ground breaking, but a pretty flawed short term fix by SE, buying in HTCs expertise, whilst not ensuring that the software, and production were up to an acceptable standard.
Posted by doministry
On 2009-08-22 17:29:40, waibun_lee wrote:
I personally agree with number2, these days you don't really get rewarded with brand loyalty. SE used to be a company in the forefront of innovation but now has slipped down the slope and is becoming struggling company. The xperia I thought was going to be great but it wasn't at all, the build quality is poor, the software unusable and a repair centre that seems to be run by idiots after I rang them about the chip on the side of my xperia which was no older than 2 months. Sure the software side maybe subjective to the user but even the most diehard users have to agree that hunting down cabs and transferring them over then installing them is a pain.
On a side note another issue with SE has always been release dates, they announce a phone and it’s not released for best part of half a year if not more. The fact they try to fill the time between handsets with the same old generic mid-end phones is awful. The X2? I think I’m gonna give that one a miss.
Personally I don't care about any loyalty.
I buy what I like and keep what works well.
It's always like that: there are happy, whining and unhappy about anything.
That's how it goes.
Some of users like some features, some not.... Whatever.
My X1 is the best SE I had. Just like that.
Posted by doministry
On 2009-08-23 01:32:44, number2 wrote:
though some have allowed brand loyalty to blinker them to the X1s short comings, the phone will not be remembered as ground breaking, but a pretty flawed short term fix by SE
Sorry mate but this is a little bulls..t.
BTW X1 was the first smartphone with 480 x 800 screen
and with this quality.
"pretty flawed" that's funny indeed.
Can you show me really, obviously much greater, not flawed device around?
I'm curious.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2009-08-23 03:19 ]
Posted by koto
@doministry
I also had mixed emotions about windows mobile. At one point I was actually missing UIQ badly and even looked at the new Iphone- I simply can't stand poor software performance. Then I realised that core player, which I constantly use, is the big culprit-probably not fully optimised for xperia. It should be closed after usage. Also I found and start to use speed booster - I would call it windows mobile swiss pro:-) Finaly I found apps 'informant' and 'midomi'. The first is amazing pim apps - as I am a manager in a bank I needed something like that. The second is id track which is the single one app I missed from P1.
So I can understand those people who don't like xperia or winmo in general. It is rather strange operating system. But after one bring it to the desired state it becomes a killer machine. As you said, this is by far the best SE phone I had.