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Posted by max_wedge

On 2008-12-17 10:02:57, WhyBe wrote:
@borisisinvin:
Why don't you make an attempt to return or exchange it with the guy you bought it from? Obviously, no one is sharing your crash-a-day experiences.

He won't do that because then he won't be able to bitch on adn on about it....

Anyway OBVIOUSLY, it's WINDOWS, so the crashes must be Bill Gates fault. Steve Jobs wouldn't do that to us....

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[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2008-12-17 13:32 ]


Posted by doministry
@bider

Thanks! Good to hear. I also think of it but I'd rather have a generic X1, not branded, and in Era it's branded right?

@borisisinvin

Just to point out - if you compare X1 out-of-the box to iPhone, you make a horrible mistake - iPhone has to be tweaked to make even basic things like MMS or copy/paste...

Posted by max_wedge
@dogmann, haha! You can buy me one if you want

Yes, I'm keen to get a good close look at one before deciding. So far I'm impressed with the camera (for what it is), and it's general performance as a WM phone seems as good as any. Panels don't excite me at all, but then I'm not expecting (or looking for) X1 to be anything other than a current iteration of the WM platform.

I like the idea of the tilted slide, and expect this will make viewing the screen substantially more comfortable than the standard flat slide. I also like the combo optical AND dpad controller (my i780 can operate as an optical mouse, or dpad style controller - but it's either/or, not both)

I also like the screen, and don't mind the small font in as I'm always trying to make fonts as small as possible to increase screen real estate. I like the resolution of the screen. I am keen to see how the optical controller and dpad and soft keys work when it comes to clicking ok, and navigating around the screen.

With WM, you don't actually need to use the stylus that often, however it's not like an iphone - you can use the stylus or dpad/softkeys efficiently for navigation but it's finger touch that is deficient. And we all know that there is no real finger touch interface available for WM yet (even touch flo is just an overlay) so I can't really hold this against X1 itself.

Don't worry as soon as I get a chance to have a good play I'll be posting my thoughts here!

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[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2008-12-17 14:08 ]

Posted by max_wedge

On 2008-12-17 15:05:43, doministry wrote:

@borisisinvin

Just to point out - if you compare X1 out-of-the box to iPhone, you make a horrible mistake - iPhone has to be tweaked to make even basic things like MMS or copy/paste...



Good point!

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[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2008-12-17 14:33 ]

Posted by Clubber
[quote]
On 2008-12-17 15:07:35, max_wedge wrote:

Yes, I'm keen to get a good close look at one before deciding. So far I'm impressed with the camera (for what it is), and it's general performance as a WM phone seems as good as any.

Max_wedge, i`m very curious how are the pics made with X1. Can u post some? Or e-mail them?
I still oscillate between C905 and X1, not only in camera but in many aspects (videocall front camera, OS, screen etc)

Thx!

Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-17 15:05:43, doministry wrote:
@bider

Thanks! Good to hear. I also think of it but I'd rather have a generic X1, not branded, and in Era it's branded right?

@borisisinvin

Just to point out - if you compare X1 out-of-the box to iPhone, you make a horrible mistake - iPhone has to be tweaked to make even basic things like MMS or copy/paste...



True that, however I know that the iPhone doesn't support MMS or copy and paste (things I personally hardly use, so it wouldn't be a big deal for me or something I'd feel the need to change), and like I said I hate messing with a phone's software, or having to tweak it like I have my X1's. It's just not my thing. However, and it's a big however (disclaimer), just so you ALL know I don't own a iPhone and never have. I don't intend on getting one until certain things are fixed (like stereo bluetooth, video recording, and AT&T's exclusivity deal here in the US). With all of that in mind I can however appreciate it's ease of use with ONE or two hands, provided to it by it's awesome software and capacitive screen, as well as it's great capabilities as a media player (since it's essentially a iPod too)! I can guarantee you that you don't have to tweak these things or download new software to make these aspects of that particular phone work any "better" than they already do, which is my big gripe with the X1 so far. As a media player, it sucks. The Media panel that SE included isn't even close to that of the iPhone's media player. The software isn't the most finger friendly to use either. I've needed to download 2 pieces of HTC software just to make it's tiny supermodel thin icon/stylus menus useable with my sausage fingers...

I find it funny that everyone here is avoiding the obvious elephant in the room. Sure i mentioned the iPhone, and got the typical responses from the usual suspects, however what about the fact that I also mentioned S60 powered devices in the same sentence?... I think Nokia has a touch based iteration of it out now, with lots of planned upgrades for it if memory serves me right?... What happens when SE goes to Android or touch based S60 for it's OS with it's next Xperia product in the immediate future? What then? I have an idea of how that conversation will go: "It's the greatest thing ever, and SE with *insert OS here* is the best ever! Who needs that horrible WM now?..." XD

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-17 19:55 ]

Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-17 10:02:57, WhyBe wrote:
@borisisinvin:
Why don't you make an attempt to return or exchange it with the guy you bought it from? Obviously, no one is sharing your crash-a-day experiences.


Like I said, I don't have another phone that I can use in the X1's absence, and can't be with out a phone for the several weeks it would probably take to get a replacement. I just don't want to be that inconvenienced right now. As long as I remember to reset it or turn it off every night I'm ok. It's a inconvenience, but something I'm going to have to live with for now. Honestly, I haven't heard enough of a convincing argument here to sway me otherwise into believing that it's something to do with my particular phone. I like to think that the anecdotal information that I've heard on the internet (like SE taking back ALL of the US X1's from Sony Style stores to fix them without a reason why they're being delayed, combined with SE recent track record) may have something to do with the problems I'm experiencing with my X1. Call me a skeptic or cynical (I am American after all), but I've learned after hanging around here for a while that a lot of the things most people say on here (a SE fan site btw incase you didn't know) should be taken with a grain of salt. I honestly think a lot of the users on here have lost their objectivity and perspective, you know the old saying "the forest for the trees"... I like to tell it how it is, hate me or love me for it I don't care, but I'm not that married to any one phone manufacturer... I want the best for my hard earned money and expect no less after spending it, and this phone is no exception.

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-17 17:27 ]

Posted by Wirral Bagpuss
I am thinking of getting the X1. What is the battery performance like on the phone. can you get through a whole day on the phone before the battery goes flat? How many days can you go without having to recharge???

Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-17 18:33:59, Wirral Bagpuss wrote:
I am thinking of getting the X1. What is the battery performance like on the phone. can you get through a whole day on the phone before the battery goes flat? How many days can you go without having to recharge???


Hey, I'm getting through about 3/4 of the (business) day with everyday use. I make a couple of calls through out the day; take and send several text messages; listen to music on the music player through Bluetooth at about 3/5 of the maximum volume setting for about 2 hours a day; sometimes I listen to music over the headphones from anywhere from 30 minutes to about an hour at the lowest volume setting; surf the internet over either wi-fi or EDGE depending on my location for about 20 minutes a day; have my emails pushed to me over a EDGE connection every four hours through out the day; and from time to time use Google maps with GPS enabled for driving directions, and quite can't make it through the day. I usually have to plug it in to my car charger on my way home. Mind you this is without any sort of extra (downloaded) app usage which will likely change now that I found a adequate NES emulator and just got Sling Player Mobile working, so half a day?... With my old N95 8GB I could get by all day with the same amount of usage (plus additional downloaded app usage) and was even able to play music at a moderate level over the speakers! l Hope that helps you out, or at the very least gives you an idea of what to expect from this thing battery wise. Whatever the case you'll more than likely have to charge it every night if your usage is anything like mine.

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-17 18:05 ]

Posted by Wirral Bagpuss
Ahh thank you for that. So your battery does not drain so quickly and is half empty by early afternoon? I have an XDA serra and battery life is bad. I have just got a new battery for it, will see how it goes over the next two days. If it doess drain again then i know it is a design fault and i will be swapping it for the X1 !!!!

Posted by bider
@doministry

Nope! X1 from era is clean from the carrier stuff! It's generic UK version so there is nothing (not even internet connection setting or omnix shortcut) added from them. It doesn't have simlock and of course it has 2y warranty. I have Plus simcard in it and it works like a charm. After the first start it automatically set up all the plus internet and mms settings.

Posted by Indiandawg

On 2008-12-17 19:18:41, Wirral Bagpuss wrote:
Ahh thank you for that. So your battery does not drain so quickly and is half empty by early afternoon? I have an XDA serra and battery life is bad. I have just got a new battery for it, will see how it goes over the next two days. If it doess drain again then i know it is a design fault and i will be swapping it for the X1 !!!!


Lower down the brightness upto 60% which is pretty decent. My p1i use to work for 2 days without re-charge with 60% brightness.
Peace

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[ This Message was edited by: Indiandawg on 2008-12-17 18:25 ]

Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-17 19:18:41, Wirral Bagpuss wrote:
Ahh thank you for that. So your battery does not drain so quickly and is half empty by early afternoon? I have an XDA serra and battery life is bad. I have just got a new battery for it, will see how it goes over the next two days. If it doess drain again then i know it is a design fault and i will be swapping it for the X1 !!!!


No, it's either completely empty or almost empty 3/4 of the way into my day. Figuring in the above mentioned use, plus the new apps I just got, I figure it'll last me half a day before it's completely empty now?... Not 100% sure tbh, but I'll report back here with what kind of an impact that software has on my X1's overall day to day battery life over the next couple of days K?

-mike

On 2008-12-17 19:24:38, Indiandawg wrote:

On 2008-12-17 19:18:41, Wirral Bagpuss wrote:
Ahh thank you for that. So your battery does not drain so quickly and is half empty by early afternoon? I have an XDA serra and battery life is bad. I have just got a new battery for it, will see how it goes over the next two days. If it doess drain again then i know it is a design fault and i will be swapping it for the X1 !!!!


Lower down the brightness upto 60% which is pretty decent. My p1i use to work for 2 days without re-charge with 60% brightness.
Peace

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[ This Message was edited by: Indiandawg on 2008-12-17 18:25 ]


You know what? I didn't figure in screen brightness... :/ I currently have mine set to auto-dim and auto adjust the backlight. Maybe I'll try lowering the brightness (but not by 60% like you mentioned) and see what that does for my battery life as well. Thanks for your now very obvious sounding suggestion...

Posted by borisisinvin
Wait, how do you adjust the screen bightness in WM again?... I looked under the Power management option and the only option for the screen is "auto adjust backlight", which I already had checked off... I also already had the phone itself set up to "turn off" after a minute of inactivity on battery power when left unattended. I have to say that I'm pretty diligent about "turning the phone off" with the power switch when not actively in use, or after just doing something with it... I also looked in the Advanced Configuration Tool for the option to dim the screen, but had no luck. @ Indiandawg you do know that this is a WM powered phone right, and not a UIQ powered phone, right?...

Posted by doministry

On 2008-12-17 19:24:36, bider wrote:
@doministry

Nope! X1 from era is clean from the carrier stuff! It's generic UK version so there is nothing (not even internet connection setting or omnix shortcut) added from them. It doesn't have simlock and of course it has 2y warranty. I have Plus simcard in it and it works like a charm. After the first start it automatically set up all the plus internet and mms settings.



WAIT, ARE YOU SURE????
If this is true, I get one soon!
January, my contract ends!
Wow!!!

Posted by doministry
bider

I owe you deep thanks!
I called my operator and yes, they give this machine for 100Euro.
It will be clean, no branding!!!

Posted by bider

On 2008-12-17 20:42:40, borisisinvin wrote:
Wait, how do you adjust the screen bightness in WM again?... I looked under the Power management option and the only option for the screen is "auto adjust backlight", which I already had checked off... I also already had the phone itself set up to "turn off" after a minute of inactivity on battery power when left unattended. I have to say that I'm pretty diligent about "turning the phone off" with the power switch when not actively in use, or after just doing something with it... I also looked in the Advanced Configuration Tool for the option to dim the screen, but had no luck. @ Indiandawg you do know that this is a WM powered phone right, and not a UIQ powered phone, right?...


If you go to settings -> power -> backlight tab and uncheck "auto adjust backlight" box - 2 sliders should appear: "on battery power" and "on external power" slider. That's how it's on my X1 - ROM: 1.02.931.3 - 08/29/08

Posted by WhyBe
^^^ But, under this setting, the screen never turns off automatically does it ?

Posted by bider

On 2008-12-17 22:42:28, WhyBe wrote:
^^^ But, under this setting, the screen never turns off automatically does it ?


It has nothing to do with the advanced tab. You can set up dim timer (1st option) - in my case 10 sec, and also screen shut off timer (in my case 40 sec). So basically in backlight tab you can set up constant backlight level and in the advanced tab you can set timers for dimming and complete screen shut off. After unchecking auto backlight option the device will not use ambient light sensor (saving energy when set to low values) and the screen will still go to sleep after previously set timers.

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[ This Message was edited by: bider on 2008-12-17 21:58 ]

Posted by WhyBe
I don't remember seeing these options. I'll check them out again...thanks.

Posted by borisisinvin
@ Whybe and Bider, all great stuff. Thanks! I'll check it first thing after my X1 is done charging! Thanks!

Posted by borisisinvin
Btw, I have to say that given all of the issues I've had with this phone, I have to give SE credit were credit is due in regards to this phones antenna and reception. I was worried after reading several reviews (while researching it) that plainly stated that reception in fringe areas was/is bad with this phone. Using this thing all day today while Christmas shopping, I was pleasantly surprised to note that I got great coverage at the mall in my town and relatively good reception at the school I'm currently going to all last week! These are both places that I either got a weak signal at, or no signal at all before using my old N95 8GB and current Tmob service! The sound quality is also superb using this handset. People sound crystal clear and loud over the earpiece. The sound and reception on this thing is the best I've ever heard, or had the fortune to use (respectively) out of ANY phone I've ever owned or used.

I am however having a problem from time to time answering the actual calls as they come in. Sometimes I'll push the send/recieve key when a call comes in while using the headset or car deck connected through bluetooth and notice a pause, or no sound at all. It's strange and feels like the phone is hiccuping. Anyone else experiencing something like this?... It only happens from time to time, but has me totally perplexed as to it's origin...

@ Wirral Bagpuss, while at the mall all day today I listened to music on the phone using the included headset (which wouldn't answer calls using the mics built in button oddly enough) for about 4 hours nonstop, the longest time so far using this particular phone btw. I also used to the phone this morning during my work out to listen to music over the speaker for about 45 minutes and used the phones stereo bluetooth connection with my car deck for about 30 minutes to listen to music in the car while driving around. I also made and received a few calls while at the mall today, and am sad to report that my X1 only made it to about 5 pm before crapping out on me, which in my opinion is never a good thing. At this point maybe I'll invest in a spare battery for it... It's currently charging, so I can have a full charge before hitting the bar tonight. Hope that helps. I'm going to adjust the screens brightness like others have mentioned to see what affect this has on my X1's battery life, though I don't think it'll do much since I always "shut off" the screen using the power button after each use. We'll see...

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-18 04:25 ]

Posted by max_wedge
@borisisinvin, okay I know you wiped your hands of me but just a question, did you use your N95 8GB for stereo bluetooth as much as you claim you do for your X1? All I know is that on my K800 and W910, using A2DP sucks quite alot of juice. 4 hours is a long time to run a continuous bluetooth connection if you think about it. That's not a "standby" bt cnnection as in the case of a bluetooth handsfree - that's a full time full bandwidth four hour bluetooth connection.

It actually sounds to me like you do quite a bit with your X1 and running out by 5pm doesn't surprise me given the usage you quote.



Posted by Indiandawg

You know what? I didn't figure in screen brightness... :/ I currently have mine set to auto-dim and auto adjust the backlight. Maybe I'll try lowering the brightness (but not by 60% like you mentioned) and see what that does for my battery life as well. Thanks for your now very obvious sounding suggestion...


It's all good

Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-18 05:29:15, max_wedge wrote:
@borisisinvin, okay I know you wiped your hands of me but just a question, did you use your N95 8GB for stereo bluetooth as much as you claim you do for your X1? All I know is that on my K800 and W910, using A2DP sucks quite alot of juice. 4 hours is a long time to run a continuous bluetooth connection if you think about it. That's not a "standby" bt cnnection as in the case of a bluetooth handsfree - that's a full time full bandwidth four hour bluetooth connection.

It actually sounds to me like you do quite a bit with your X1 and running out by 5pm doesn't surprise me given the usage you quote.




No, you misread my post. I used the included (in the box) wired headset all day today while at the mall (at the lowest volume setting on the side rocker), and only used the stereo bluetooth for about 30 minutes total (the time it took me to get to the mall and back in my car). With my Nokia I used it daily in conjunction with stereo bluetooth and my car deck for about a hour and a half total in my daily commute (both back and forth). Let me put it this way, even though I had a car adapter for the Nokia at hand in the car with me always, I rarely ever used it with that phone. It may have something to do with the larger screen and more power hungry OS?...

Posted by max_wedge
No worries. WM isn't that power hungry tbh. I don't know about X1, though I have seen many reports that it can easily last a day with normal use (bit of internet, bit of music, bit of talk etc).

But take my Samsung i780, it has phenomenal battery life. My ipaq is good but not as good as the samsung. So I think it's not WM that's hungry but maybe just some phones.

My i780 lasted over 6 weeks in flight mode (I haven't used it lately) before it died, that included about 4 hours of internet use here and there otherwise all radio was off. When I am using it regulary I can get through the day and more with the usage you describe.

Maybe you are right about the battery use of X1. I will certainly be reading the forums closely to see other people's experience.

Question: do you turn wifi off when not in use? I only turn it on when I'm actually using it and this seems to help the battery last longer.



Posted by myth®

On 2008-12-18 07:51:16, max_wedge wrote:

it's not WM that's hungry


I am not sure if it is due to optimization of power consumption of the OS or the radio, but 6.1 roms of the TyTN II for instance are known to provide a longer battery life than 6.0

Posted by MyP910
What I normally do is to tap the power button to switch off the screen. For example, after I switch on the media player to listen to the song in the car, I'll switch the screen off.

and whenever I dont' us the phone, I will switch the screen off without waiting for the auto screen off function to work. I found the battery life improve significantly. With my usage... (talk, internet, listen to the songs, voip, email push in every 15 minutes, tomtom) the battery can last more than 1 day. the battery left about 40% at night. However, I charge the phone before I go to sleep.

Posted by anonymuser

On 2008-12-18 09:37:32, myth® wrote:
I am not sure if it is due to optimization of power consumption of the OS or the radio, but 6.1 roms of the TyTN II for instance are known to provide a longer battery life than 6.0


That's true, the 6.1 upgrade did improve the battery a little on the Tytn II, but it was an incremental change, not a dramatic improvement. WM is quite power hungry in my experience, certainly the Tytn II on either ROM was quite thirsty.

Battery performance on the Tytn II was also worsened by a bug in the GPS which left something untraceable still running in the background even after you'd exited any GPS apps, and continued to drain the battery even in standby until you soft reset. Be interesting to hear whether HTC carried that one over in their current ROMs.

The obligatory iPhone/OSX comparison - it does just as well as the Tytn II, despite having a smaller (built in) battery and taking a lot less time to recharge.

Posted by MWEB

On 2008-12-18 10:51:09, Boinng wrote:

On 2008-12-18 09:37:32, myth® wrote:
I am not sure if it is due to optimization of power consumption of the OS or the radio, but 6.1 roms of the TyTN II for instance are known to provide a longer battery life than 6.0

The obligatory iPhone/OSX comparison - it does just as well as the Tytn II, despite having a smaller (built in) battery and taking a lot less time to recharge.


Obligatory, and tedious.

Posted by anonymuser

On 2008-12-18 11:17:34, MWEB wrote:
Obligatory, and tedious.


I know you are, but what am I? Seriously, if I hadn't mentioned it someone else would have leapt on it, it's one of the various elephants parading around this particular room.

Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-18 07:51:16, max_wedge wrote:
No worries. WM isn't that power hungry tbh. I don't know about X1, though I have seen many reports that it can easily last a day with normal use (bit of internet, bit of music, bit of talk etc).

But take my Samsung i780, it has phenomenal battery life. My ipaq is good but not as good as the samsung. So I think it's not WM that's hungry but maybe just some phones.

My i780 lasted over 6 weeks in flight mode (I haven't used it lately) before it died, that included about 4 hours of internet use here and there otherwise all radio was off. When I am using it regulary I can get through the day and more with the usage you describe.

Maybe you are right about the battery use of X1. I will certainly be reading the forums closely to see other people's experience.

Question: do you turn wifi off when not in use? I only turn it on when I'm actually using it and this seems to help the battery last longer.




Hey, first off let me apologize for the other day. It was a long week at school and work the week before that culminated that day, and I really didn't want to talk about work related stuff here of all places. I'm not normally that terse or short, and I apologize for my behavior, or if I offended you. I'm definitely not here to argue or get into a pissing match with anyone. I really just want to discuss and debate the finer points of mobile phones.

Honestly, the battery is poop on this phone imo. I definitely turn off the wi-fi after each use (I'm almost OCD about that sort of stuff), and like I've mentioned countless times (this is @ MyP910), I always turn off the screen by "turning off" the phone using a short press of the power button after each use (even while listening to music in the car) and still only get what I feel to be sub-par battery life from this thing. Like I mentioned yesterday, I'll be lowering the screen brightness to see what affect this has on my X1's overall battery life today (since I'm driving out to Pasadena for some appointments and paperwork) but don't expect much...

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-18 16:47 ]

Posted by doministry
Battery life cannot be really compared with individual usages.
My P1 sometimes lasts 24h although some people report 3 days etc.
It really depends on the pattern, not only on the numbers and minutes per action.

Posted by anonymuser
It's a hard thing to pin down and often unfairly judged, it's true. Deep down we all want our phones to go as long as the last good featurephone we owned (mine would have been the T68, which happily lasted 4-5 days on a charge) but of course the more these devices are capable of, the more we use them through the day, and the quicker that battery drains.

If we all turned off our email push/polling, stopped web surfing, stopped watching videos or listening to music, banned ourselves from all the other apps and games, and just used our phones for voice and text - we'd probably all get a week or more out of our smartphones, regardless of make or model. Of course when you turn it all back on that changes, and if we really make heavy use of all the features constantly then none of them - the X1, P1, iPhone, Blackberry, will last the full day. Which is better? In reality, none of them - they all have the same basic limitations, none of them have solved the basic riddle of how to expend the most amount of energy through the day while packing the slimmest battery possible.

Roll on the miniature Fusion reactor...

[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-12-18 17:53 ]

Posted by JiSm
Has anyone ever used a diamond or a pro here before? I have used MANY WM OS devices and I can swear to you that not a single one came within 50% of the standby of the X1. I cant get over how good the battery is in this device. I also use a C902 and this easily competes with it for standby. 2 -3 days I squeeze from it and I have bluetooth on 24-7 (actually stays on with Mortscript) for use with my MBW-100. I have tho changed all my stand-by settings and use the power button screen lock always but this is just normal use. I love this device!

Posted by Wirral Bagpuss
Yes i have the XDA Serra (touch pro) i have a replacement battery in it now. So far i come home with it at 50% and recharge it. Last battery drained to 20% Gulp ! I am hugely tempted to swap for the X1

Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-18 18:32:47, doministry wrote:
Battery life cannot be really compared with individual usages.
My P1 sometimes lasts 24h although some people report 3 days etc.
It really depends on the pattern, not only on the numbers and minutes per action.


Sure it can. I personally haven't changed my individual usage pattern that much since getting this phone (actually I find myself using it less than my old N95 8GB for fear that it'll die on me mid day) with the exception of a few more texts that I now send here and there (thanks to the X1's awesome keyboard), and that's fact in regards to my personal usage pattern comparing my old phone to this one.

With my old N95 8GB I could do everything I now do, and more, and easily make it all the way home after a busy day with anywhere from 15-20% of my battery left at the end of the day. Why, just this morning I made sure that the phone was fully charged before leaving the house and connecting it wirelessly (via stereo bluetooth) to my car deck. I used it like this with my car deck for about 50 minutes during my drive in, in which time the phones battery became depleted by 30%!!! There is no way that I could ever use this phone as much as I did my old N95 8GB and expect to get anywhere near the amount of battery up time that I did from that particular device (which also had a smaller battery and screen, yet that I could listen to music on almost ALL day using a pair of wired headphones )....

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-18 21:53 ]

Posted by max_wedge
okay, but I'm confused because you are comparing bt stereo 50mins on the X1 with wired stereo on the N95 of all day. BT stereo sucks juice. Did you use BT stereo on your N95?

I know I could run my W910 all day on wired headset without any problem but seriously dent my battery if I use BT stereo for an hour.

btw, no worries about the other day, I'm not that easily offended and I have a short memory I can be a pushy bastard too so it's not all your fault.

Posted by yyzxmn
FWIW, my battery life for today -

100% when I left for work this morning at 6:45am
2.5 hrs BT stereo use (HBH-DS220) to/from work
auto-chk my 2 email addresses at every 15 mins and hour all day
Spb Traveler is set to auto-update weather & currencies every 2 hrs
10 texts
15 mins of calls
1/2 hr of internet at lunch
right now, my battery is reading 60%

mobile is set to GSM/EDGE with auto band selection

Posted by JiSm
^Pretty good no? I know if I did that on my C902 it would be down around that mark - so getting this from a fully fledged Windows smartphone is pretty cool. Shame not all WM can compete in this league tho...

Posted by MyP910
My battery life is about the same (@yyzxmn). Every morning I start with 100% battery life...

-My Wifi is always ON
-My HSDPA is always ON
-My email check every 15 minutes
- Talk time about 30 minutes - 1 hour
- Internet surfing about 1 to 11/2 hour
- YM quite frequently
- BT headset connected for about 30 minutes

...and in the evening I will have about 40 - 50% left. And at night before sleep, I surf the internet for about 2 hours and still have 20 - 30% left before I charge my phone.

Posted by doministry

On 2008-12-19 11:01:32, MyP910 wrote:
My battery life is about the same (@yyzxmn). Every morning I start with 100% battery life...

-My Wifi is always ON
-My HSDPA is always ON
-My email check every 15 minutes
- Talk time about 30 minutes - 1 hour
- Internet surfing about 1 to 11/2 hour
- YM quite frequently
- BT headset connected for about 30 minutes

...and in the evening I will have about 40 - 50% left. And at night before sleep, I surf the internet for about 2 hours and still have 20 - 30% left before I charge my phone.

It all seems a good battery life!

Posted by masseur
I agree. my usage is very similar as is my remaining power at the end of the day. I also use the GPS a fair amount too.

Posted by max_wedge
I really think borisisinvin has a faulty unit. The frequent crashes and poor battery use don't seem to be borne out by other X1 users.



Posted by doministry
Very soon I'll join you guys,
hopefully around tuesday,
or around 27th Dec. the latest!

Posted by BIG-Stan
me too
But I have to wait 2 more weeks

Posted by borisisinvin

On 2008-12-19 13:45:01, max_wedge wrote:
I really think borisisinvin has a faulty unit. The frequent crashes and poor battery use don't seem to be borne out by other X1 users.




After reading the battery usage stuff on here I'm also starting to think that I may have a faulty battery after all... There is no way that I can squeeze even half of the usage that other users are claiming on here, and make it through a full day with my X1.... I screwed up yesterday after I got to school and didn't turn off my wi-fi (damn slow loading connection manager!!!). As a result I accidentally left it on and idling for about 4 hours while at school for the full duration, and after it was already depleted by 30% tbw thanks to using it's stereo bluetooth connection to stream music to my car deck for 50 minutes on my commute to school! When I got in my car to leave while trying to connect it to my stereo I noticed it was on and almost dead! I've been careful not to fully discharge the battery so far (I have it set to automatically shut off after it reaches the 5% mark) and gave it a full charge out of the box when I first got it... I don't know what to make of this all. As to your other post, I used the Stereo Bluetooth connection on my old N95 8GB to stream music to my car deck on average a hour and a half daily with my commute to either work or school (that's including going to and coming back btw) including all of the other usage I mentioned before, and still managed to make it home at the end of the day with about a 20% charge left.


As for the bug stuff you keep mentioning, I'm not quite ready to cede to you on that one. I just haven't heard enough of a convincing argument on here to convince me it's through some fault of my personal handset. I honestly think it's the fault of SE's panel software implementation on top of WM, as evidenced by the half assed buggy as hell Media Experience Panel, and other anecdotal information I've mentioned before that I've found online and experienced personally. I just don't have the confidence in SE's engineers and programmers I once had to unequivocally chalk it up to it being my handsets fault.

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-19 18:28 ]

Posted by Mizzle
As an experiment, I put the X1 aside while testing the C905. I left the X1 on a full battery in standby mode, and it almost lasted four weeks.

Posted by koto
@doministry
I eagerly wait your impression on X1 as I believe we have the same taste in smartphone area and very similar usage pattern

Posted by doministry

On 2008-12-19 21:19:22, koto wrote:
@doministry
I eagerly wait your impression on X1 as I believe we have the same taste in smartphone area and very similar usage pattern

Yeah, I'm also curious! I will share.
I'm also very very comfortable with P1 now.
But the offer which they gave me was good enough to try!
Thanks to bider for hint!
My worries are only - how much will I have to tweak it...
Looks like also people like bloob are content of it!
That's how it is, some UIQ users have choosen WM route, some S60...
But S60 puts me off...


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