Posted by borisisinvin
On 2008-12-12 19:22:31, WhyBe wrote:
@borisisinvin
Well the old adage rings true here: RTFM!
If you are new to WM then you should study it, learn it, THEN decide whether it's for you or not. It is not as intuitive as iPhone or other phones but is every bit as functional and quick once you have learned and optimized it. All of your problems seem to stem from lack of knowledge rather than flat out being WM fault. We can all agree WM needs work, but, it is a very competent phone OS. If your crashing all the time, then get rid of the garbage software you installed, stop doing tweaks, and just stick to the basics until you become more proficient with it.
I enjoy media on the X1 (both audio and video) media playerS, I don't use stylus with contacts nor is it required. Yes, there are certain segments of the OS that calls for the stylus, but that is few and far between (try using the OK button).
Alot of the WM bitching is over the top (as max says). Just take a few moments and learn what can be done, and not be done, and what shortcuts can be set up. It is not difficult riding a bike once you've learned how to balance.
I wish I could RTFM, but mine didn't come with one...
You are obviously right about me not studying up on WM enough and doing enough research about this OS before hand. I definitely needed to play with it a little more at the Sony Style store the day I checked it out, but I can't help but feel like a lot of the stuff I've now encountered I wouldn't have learned about until after I had been forced to use it for a while or "learned to use it" with every day use like I have. Is there a place that I can rent a WM device for the week that I don't know about? I'm sure with time I'll learn to live with it, but that doesn't that mean that I'll like or love it. As it now stands I feel like I'm settling.
I don't believe I've ever needed to know EVERYTHING about anything, before making what i believed to be a informed purchase, with the obvious exception of WM (which has it own special purchasing rules apparently)... I did a fair amount of research like I do with any other major electronics purchase before buying it, and had modest expectations about this phone that it honestly hasn't lived up to AS IS. I haven't done many performance tweaks like I mentioned countless times before (unless hiding the keyboard with ACT or changing Opera to my default browser using Xperia Tweak counts) and have only installed all of the panels and several programs that everyone else seems to be using with no problems (ie: .NETCF 3.5, Advanced Configuration Tool, Advanced Task manager, WVGAFIX2, HTC Diamond keyboards, HTC enlarge Start menu, Flash Lite 3.1, and Batti).
I guess my real problem is that I only wanted a touch screen Multimedia Smart phone with a keyboard that I could install some software on (like Sling which doesn't work yet
) that worked. I'm not a OS tweaker and kind of like to leave things stock for fear of screwing things up. I now think this really is your problem with my complaints here, which is what WM is REALLY about at this moment and time, right? And this is my main complaint with WM, sure it can be good, but only after you tweak it to high hell. I somehow missed this aspect of the OS while researching it. It seems no one sent me that memo....[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-12 19:36 ]
Posted by borisisinvin
p.s. this dead horse has been beat to heck and back...
Posted by WhyBe
Is there a place that I can rent a WM device for the week that I don't know about?
A little Windows for Desktop experience should go a long way. Windows Mobile is very similar.
I haven't done many performance tweaks like I mentioned countless times before (unless hiding the keyboard with ACT or changing Opera to my default browser using Xperia Tweak counts) and have only installed all of the panels and several programs that everyone else seems to be using with no problems (ie: .NETCF 3.5, Advanced Configuration Tool, Advanced Task manager, WVGAFIX2, HTC Diamond keyboards, HTC enlarge Start menu, Flash Lite 3.1, and Batti).
The source of your "bugs" may very well lie in here somewhere...not WM.
And this is my main complaint with WM, sure it can be good, but only after you tweak it to high hell. I somehow missed this aspect of the OS while researching it. It seems no one sent me that memo....
You shouldn't have to download tweaks, but, there are enough parameters and options available in WM alone to get things the way you like it. The third party stuff is just icing on the cake. But, yes, you should spend a little time customizing WM to how YOU like it.
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-12-12 20:02 ]
Posted by borisisinvin
All fair stuff tbh, but I never said I had a bug on my phone, you keep insisting that there is one. Like I mentioned several times before it has locked up several times with nothing installed after a factory reset... It was up for a extended amount of up time (about a day and a half) while I was trying to navigate from one panel to another when the freezes always happened. Maybe the "bug" is with the panels? o_O Anyone else want to chime in with their X1 experiences so far? Any freezes or lock-ups like I'm experiencing? I'm surprised it's so quiet with so many content X1 users out there...I also don't own a PC btw, yuck (I'm an artist, not a programmer). I thought I could just get by with this thing as is, and as far as my MAC syncs go, all is kosher (thank god) with the exception of my itunes playlists not syncing correctly.
[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-12 20:30 ]
Posted by WhyBe
^^^ Sounds like you have a lemon...
Posted by MyP910
@borisisinvin
1. As I said earlier, I've never experienced any lock-ups or freeze even one.
2. and... I rarely use the stylus. My default panel is the sony ericsson panel. I can access calendar, contacts, time, sms/email, task list, appointment with one finger touch only.
3. with the sony ericsson panel, you can set shorcuts... and I set youtube, opera, palringo (for YM and MSN), contacts as the shortcuts. So all of these can be accessed with only one finger touch.
4. As you can see, I don't have to use the stylus.
5. I think your phone is faulty with all the lock-ups and freezes. I'm surprised to hear that you have to do soft reset everyday...
Posted by Tigershark42
max_wedge:
But your rant was excellent, though
All you said is very true. I think the slightly confusing thing is they throw in excellent hardware, give the device a premium feel (in this case) and then charge £500. I would expect a phone to do way more than that if it cost £500. It is overpriced, and intentionally so, since it isnt for the mass-market as such. The flaw is when people pay so much, get the phone and then they dont like it. Its really just a lack of common sense. If its so expensive, else if it is so important to you, then read reveiws and do your research and find out about it, otherwise you could just be throwing money away. Noone bought it without knowing it runs on WM. If you dont like WM, dont buy it. If youre not sure, its too expensive a gamble, so dont buy it- at least not straight away. If you like WM and youre one of the ones who actually knows what theyre doing, THEN by all means enjoy. But dont make the wrong decision and then blame it on someone else.
Posted by _vAmpiRe_
@borisisinvin
I got my X1 allmost three weeks ago, and I, like MyP910, haven't had any freezes or lockups yet...
Being an UIQ user since the P800, WM felt a bit strange at first... It didn't feel as streamlined and intuitive as UIQ, but it grew an me... (infact, the UIQ to WM transition wasn't any different than going from my old "dumbphone" to the P800, pretty the same experience..)
All in all, I really like the X1 (though writing textmessages while driving is a real PITA!), and compared to my late p990i, it's really fast and reliable.... (although an old Lada is probably more reliable than the p990i)
Posted by WhyBe
@borisisinvin
The moral of the story is...
If you buy a pig with lipstick, keep the receipt!
Posted by l337h1um
Max. That was an excellent rant. Enjoyed every word of it.
Gizmondo wrote:
I'm sorry, but at this point, any apologist left defending Windows Mobile is either delusional or full of crap—either way, not worth listening to.
Well, shit. Did you read that? He said that anyone defending Windows Mobile is either delusional or full of crap and not worth listing to.
I guess he's got us there. He said that now. There's no changing it boys, we're delusional. If we say we're not, it doesn't matter because he said we are so if we say anything to the contrary, it doesn't count because we're delusional.
So I guess... we're screwed.
Wait! I know! I can get my sister to say that everything that guy says is complete and utter bullcrap! I can't say that because he's already said I'm delusional. But he never said that my sister is! So now he's full of utter crap! Which abolishes our delusion! So you know what else? Windows 3.1 is awesome and anyone who says otherwise is delusional. There! It's set in stone now! Or does this only work for Gizmondo reviewer morons? Look, I'm a reviewer, I've reviewed stuff before and this gay website pays me! That means my opinion is correct!
[ This Message was edited by: l337h1um on 2008-12-13 03:30 ]
Posted by borisisinvin
On 2008-12-13 01:22:13, WhyBe wrote:
@borisisinvin
The moral of the story is...
If you buy a pig with lipstick, keep the receipt!
I bought it on eBay, so I'm stuck with it, receipt or no receipt. Whatever the case I won't inconvenience myself anymore by sending it back to the retailer in HK in exchange for another one that I'm sure will behave exactly the same way. I honestly don't think it's just my phone, I now honestly think it's both a combination of WM and SE's panel implementation. At this point it is what it is... I'm stuck with it, and I'll deal with it until something better comes along, which hopefully is soon. I just hope that someone out there benefits from our dialogue, whatever way they decide to go with their purchase. Whatever the case, I now DEFINITELY know that WM is not for me and never will be, it's as simple as that. To everyone else who is fine with what they got and happy with their purchase, more power to you!
Posted by lakeside01
hey, has anyone tried installing the srs wow hd cab on their p1..nd does it work...
Posted by max_wedge
@boris, please don't believe that crashing is a daily occurance of WM or X1. It simply isn't true, and if your phone is experiencing this don't let it colour your perception of X1 or WM. Perhaps it was put on ebay BECAUSE someone else got stuck with your lemon and passed it on to you. Those are the risks of buying on ebay.
You may be jumping to the conclusion that the crashing is due to it being WM because of the myth sprouted by many non-wm users about WM being crashworthy - but the fact is that ever since PPC2003 or so, and especially WM5, the windows mobile platforms have been quite stable. It's only those with no real world experience of WM who keep spreading this myth around (you get it a lot from s60 users with secret envy of touchscreens
....)
btw, have you done a firmware reset? this might help with your handset.
Regarding the contacts, you can actually do all that via the ok button and dpad, it's really only in third party applications you should need resort to stylus use. It's just a matter of getting to know the OS. You are gonna need to do this anytime you start using a new phone os. WM IS more complicated and takes more time to get to know it's idiosyncracies, however it's far more functional than you give it credit for.
If it's too complicated and you don't like it fair enough, but be careful you don't let your inexperience colour you perception of a device you may actualy end up liking a lot if you give it a chance to become familiar with it.
Posted by Osmano
On 2008-12-13 01:09:54, _vAmpiRe_ wrote:
writing textmessages while driving
er ulovlig og farlig.....illegal and dangerous.....
Posted by myth®
Just got my X1 guys.
Playing with it, installing apps, customizing, etc etc.
Extremely fast and no lags, no freezes, nothing.
I had to decide between the Touch HD (+100 USD) and X1 and it was not a hard decision for me
The HD is nice but too plastic + no keyboard...
Posted by doministry
On 2008-12-13 18:09:35, myth® wrote:
Just got my X1 guys.
Playing with it, installing apps, customizing, etc etc.
Extremely fast and no lags, no freezes, nothing.
I had to decide between the Touch HD (+100 USD) and X1 and it was not a hard decision for me.
The HD is nice but too plastic + no keyboard...
Great, keep us informed,
What I'm interested in is how it will behave after few weeks.
As Michal from MySymbian pointed, his X1 slowed down after some time and many installments/uninstallments.
Posted by myth®
Thanks dominik.
And ok, I'll revert with my thoughts after a few weeks, while I'm almost sure, that it'll be in the same condition.
Posted by doministry
On 2008-12-13 19:17:37, myth® wrote:
Thanks dominik.
And ok, I'll revert with my thoughts after a few weeks, while I'm almost sure, that it'll be in the same condition.
Let's hope so!
Posted by WhyBe
Great, keep us informed,
What I'm interested in is how it will behave after few weeks.
As Michal from MySymbian pointed, his X1 slowed down after some time and many installments/uninstallments.
You have to consider whether it was the third-party apps or WM itself that slowed things down.
Posted by myth®
@boris
What's your SPL & ROM version ?
Posted by borisisinvin
On 2008-12-13 15:18:19, max_wedge wrote:
@boris, please don't believe that crashing is a daily occurance of WM or X1. It simply isn't true, and if your phone is experiencing this don't let it colour your perception of X1 or WM. Perhaps it was put on ebay BECAUSE someone else got stuck with your lemon and passed it on to you. Those are the risks of buying on ebay.
You may be jumping to the conclusion that the crashing is due to it being WM because of the myth sprouted by many non-wm users about WM being crashworthy - but the fact is that ever since PPC2003 or so, and especially WM5, the windows mobile platforms have been quite stable. It's only those with no real world experience of WM who keep spreading this myth around (you get it a lot from s60 users with secret envy of touchscreens
....)
btw, have you done a firmware reset? this might help with your handset.
Regarding the contacts, you can actually do all that via the ok button and dpad, it's really only in third party applications you should need resort to stylus use. It's just a matter of getting to know the OS. You are gonna need to do this anytime you start using a new phone os. WM IS more complicated and takes more time to get to know it's idiosyncracies, however it's far more functional than you give it credit for.
If it's too complicated and you don't like it fair enough, but be careful you don't let your inexperience colour you perception of a device you may actualy end up liking a lot if you give it a chance to become familiar with it.
The seller who sold me my phone is great, he has a online store that sells nothing but new unlocked phones. I've bought with him before, so I have no reason to think that he would have intentionally sold me a lemon, if a lemon at all. I'm pretty familiar with the X1 now after close to 2 weeks of use, and honestly still don't like it. My battery hardly last a day, and I don't use it much differently than I did my N95 (actually I use it less since I haven't been able to use any of the software that I used on my N95). I guess what I'm most caught off guard by is the abysmal battery life. Every where I read everybody said it was great and would last a day easily. I've yet to get a full days worth of use from it where I don't have to plug it in to make it through a day. I had no idea that WM was THIS power hungry btw. What do you do with your phone through out the day? Does it last you a full day? I did a firmware reset a couple of days after purchasing it because of the freezes and lock-ups, and thought it had something to do with the software I had downloaded like I've mentioned countless times.... It still locked up several times after that with nothing installed while just navigating from one panel to another..... Like I said, it only does it if I leave it on and running for an extended mount of time, like over a day, with out turning it off or soft reseting it. I personally have big fingers and can NOT navigate the phone with one hand. I can not move up and down on the contact list using the alphabetical list on the side of the screen (I hate on screen keyboards btw). This phone requires two handed operation to fully operate, or a stylus if you dive deeper than the exterior candy coating. For instance, I often have a hard time opening the task panel (you know to multitask and what not) when in the Media Experience Panel and using only one hand. I also have a hard time opening the connection manager (if I mange to hit a active connection in the task bar at the top the first time) with in the dialogue bubble that opens so I can activate my bluetooth connection. I often have to use both hands, or the stylus to do these things. While you can get around using just one panel, I kind of bought this phone to use the Media Experience Panel too, and use it often even though it's broken.
@ Malkmus, after your post yesterday I decided to try WMP with my car deck, and the AVCRP controls do work like others have reported, however it kept screwing up! After a while some songs would unexpectedly start playing a loud screeching static! It didn't happen all of the time while using it with my car deck, however it happened enough that it became annoying enough to me to make close WMP and disconnect my X1 from my car deck during my 45 minute commute to Pasadena.
Also, I hadn't noticed it until someone said it, but my phone has slowed down considerably switching task and opening windows since first using it. This however is to be expected with WM as you add apps, this much I knew and read about extensively while doing research on the phone before purchasing it.
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Posted by borisisinvin
On 2008-12-13 20:01:47, myth® wrote:
@boris
What's your SPL & ROM version ?
What is the SPL?
My ROM number is:
1.02.931.3
Date is
08/29/08
Posted by myth®
On 2008-12-13 21:14:08, borisisinvin wrote:
What is the SPL?
It's the bootloader.
You can check it by pressing the volume down button and powering your X1 on while keeping it pressed.
Posted by borisisinvin
My SPL is:
KOVS110
SPL-0.72.0000
MicroP1-787
MicroP2-707
Ok, now how do I make it go away?... lol
Posted by myth®
So your SPL & ROM is ok (same as mine).
I asked because I was suspecting a custom SPL + ROM, as one or both of these can often be the reason(s) for freezes.
Now you have to soft reset your device or remove & reinsert the battery
Posted by max_wedge
Using wifi or gprs suck s juice just like on any phone. gprs or wifi uses as much juice as talking so if you are using a combination of all three then you will only get standard talk time of 10 hours (less if using talk and wifi or gprs concurrently) (x1 talktime is 10hours).
Infact I think wifi and gprs actually use a fair bit more juice than talk, so I'd say you wouldn't get much better than 5-6hrs of internet on the handset (maybe less), and that's assuming you only make a few short calls duing the day.
If you talk for a couple of hours, make that even less internet time.
How much time exactly do you use of talk/wifi/gprs during the day? I'm not talking X1 specifically, but this is just my general experience of any handset (regardless of whether it's WM or any other OS)
wifi and gprs sucks juice - this is normal. Other people on this thread have stated similiar experience as I have stated above, for x1. I don't think you can expect miracles. You won't be able to use the internet all day. This is true of any phone. You'll have to recharge at some stage during the day.
On the other hand, if you only use a couple of hours internet and a hour or so of total talktime during the day, you should get through the day no worries.
The fact that your phone is locking up when not used for a period of time IS NOT NORMAL. For WM OR for X1. Fair enough your ebay guy may be legit, but that doesn't eliminate the possibility that he unknowingly provided you with a dodgy handset.
If the handsets are new and unlcocked when he gets them, that means he ought to be prepared to provide you a new handset, since he can have that one replaced under warranty. Read through some of the other comments and replies to your posts: other people aren't complaining about the extent of instability and battery life that you are experiencing. Many people have replied that they don't have battery life problems and that the phone is rock solid.
Posted by BIG-Stan
Hey guys and girls,
I finally decided to pick the x1, in black...I tried it out in a store and fell in love with that. Great size and keyboard. I was going to get the touch hd first but then I just got sick of just a touchscreen (currently a touch owner) I need some buttons to press and I dont want to look at the screen the whole time to see where I'm pressing... It's just driving me crazy
Next week I'll order it...it got A LOT cheaper in the last 6 days!
Now I'm really looking forward to it. I, myself LOVe wm. THis os is not for everybody but I just like to tweak my stuff and try different things out. Many people expect the same experience as with an iphone. Turn it on and dont think about anything, for that you also cant do that much on it as on wm.
Anyways, cant wait to order it!
@borisisinvin
I'm an artist too and creativity doesnt need a mac or an apple
Posted by borisisinvin
On 2008-12-14 16:26:04, BIG-Stan wrote:
I'm an artist too and creativity doesnt need a mac or an apple
I think it does if you're using an industry standard like Final Cut Pro...
Posted by number2
Hi,
slightly off thread, has anyone managed to get a black X1 from o2? they seem to stock silver.
Sorry to sound so petty, if they say they only do silver im sure ill still buy the damned thing, its become a must have!
Posted by max_wedge
On 2008-12-14 20:57:22, borisisinvin wrote:
On 2008-12-14 16:26:04, BIG-Stan wrote:
I'm an artist too and creativity doesnt need a mac or an apple
I think it does if you're using an industry standard like Final Cut Pro...
Actual industry standards don't rely on a specific OEM. For example PDF became an industry standard and ADOBE was pressured into opening the licensing of PDF so that they couldn't monopolise the "industry standard" and control it for their own needs.
No one product is an industry standard of itself. Competition will always ensure their are other products that do the job as well, or atleast well enough that a person's creativity can shine on whatever platform they choose to use.
If you think Final Cut Pro is so good that a person can not achieve industry leading results on a Windows video editing package then you are underselling the importance of the human creativity. Final Cut Pro cannot make a person creative - creativity can not be manufactured
Posted by borisisinvin
On 2008-12-14 22:07:27, number2 wrote:
Hi,
slightly off thread, has anyone managed to get a black X1 from o2? they seem to stock silver.
Sorry to sound so petty, if they say they only do silver im sure ill still buy the damned thing, its become a must have!
Oh, don't worry this thread has been off topic for a while now... It's starting to turn into a trash thread.
@ max, certainly, like you said creativity isn't created or determined by any sort of computer or software, but in stop motion (and live action film to a larger extent along with their whole production) and the music industry the long reigning tools of these particular trades have been Final Cut Pro and Pro Tools running on Macs. If you want to have a long healthy career in any field, then you should definitely become intimately familiar with the tools and machines the people of whatever that perspective trade or field use (they are just tools btw, the particular T-O-O-L-S we use), and that's a fact kids across the board. Now, maybe like you said creativity is being hampered by this. "Oh noz, you mean we HAVE to use Final Cut to work in Hollywood?!?" Now understand that to be a "creative type" (read:artist) in MY field you HAVE to be intimately familiar with these tools and machines of my particular field of design (which might I add I PERSONALLY prefer over the alternative...), argument over... Now, can we please get back on topic?
More of an aside to myself: I'm seriously tired and fatigued of having to talk in circles around the points I'm trying to make or discuss to people on here about things beside the point I'm making, that might I also add they obviously don't comprehend and understand, or even care to comprehend and understand to begin with....
P.S. not all "artist" are necessarily Graphic Designers or Illustrators FYI, mentioning Adobe's PDF standard...
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Posted by molecule
I have been using the X1 for about 15 days now. Quite happy with it excepts a few issues.
I have suddenly started facing this issue since yesterday evening. I am using a short mp3 tone as a message tone. This was working fine all these days. But suddenly the message tone does not ring. I mean the phone just vibrates. did a soft reset but still the same. Tries using the default SE tone but the same. The call ringtones and all work great. Dunno whats the issue with the SMS tone!
Any clue whats happening?
Posted by WhyBe
Maybe the alarm isn't pointing to the mp3 file anymore?
On the screen where you set the tone, there is also an option to turn it on or off.
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Posted by rustam07
Turbo Speed X1 - Up to 8 X faster Performance than standard setup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459328
Navigation Panel for Xperia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457211
Posted by abdo
Hi gays .I'm morrocan .my operator(maroc telecom) work for free on mobile phone & pc .But, it open few links : wap.esato.com , wap.mobilezone.ma & http://www.menara.ma/portal/site/mobile thats all .do you have some solution to open other links like the old one : www.imps.ma:@+link ? help me plz .
This message was posted from a 5300
Posted by myth®
On 2008-12-15 21:49:15, abdo wrote:
But, it open few links : wap.esato.com , wap.a site.ma & http://www.menara.ma/portal/site/mobile thats all .do you have some solution to open other links like the old one : http://www.imps.ma:@+link ?
You might be using the 'wap' access point of your operator instead of 'internet'.
Check your internet account settings.
Btw, I'm sure you meant to say 'guys'
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Posted by abdo
I wan to say "friends" but i think i dont speak good english but i'll try to learn it i'm sorry & thnk u .
This message was posted from a 5300
Posted by JiSm
On 2008-12-15 21:56:21, myth® wrote:
Btw, I'm sure you meant to say 'guys'
Haha Awesome. Wish I could get away with that stuff!
Posted by tonyitalian
hahahahhaa tats funny now hilarious
Posted by l337h1um
On 2008-12-15 10:52:58, molecule wrote:
I have been using the X1 for about 15 days now. Quite happy with it excepts a few issues.
I have suddenly started facing this issue since yesterday evening. I am using a short mp3 tone as a message tone. This was working fine all these days. But suddenly the message tone does not ring. I mean the phone just vibrates. did a soft reset but still the same. Tries using the default SE tone but the same. The call ringtones and all work great. Dunno whats the issue with the SMS tone!
Any clue whats happening?
I had this problem, but with calls. Try going into the sounds and notifications settings, and select messages. Is it set to Vibrate? Change it to Vibrate and Ring. I dunno how mine got set to Vibrate, but if I adjusted the volume using the rocker on the side of the phone, it would indicate it had changed the volume, but when the volume bubble disappeared and I changed volume again, it would be set as silent again. It was pissing me off for days until I thought maybe the setting in sounds and notifications wasn't being changed by the volume keys!
Posted by Golgo
Does anyone have any good info on when a firmware update is coming out?
Last I heard from SE support was "at the latest two weeks before xmas"... yeah.. right.
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Posted by Mizzle
I was told it's out a few days ago.
Posted by borisisinvin
Ok all, I've mentioned several times on this forum the problems I've had both getting the Sling Mobile Player and a NES emulator to work on the X1 with out much help from anyone here. Left to my own devices, I found solutions to both, and want to share them with anyone else who maybe having the same problems I had without much help. I am now happy to report that Sling DOES in fact work on the X1 (although it is kind of buggy and a major battery drainer...) and also managed to find a working NES emulator, after many many hours on my own Googling and experimenting....
Any who, if you need to get Sling Player working on your X1 then make sure you download it from Sling's site using either IE or by manually entering their mobile site in Opera, since using Opera alone sends you to their desktop site with the desktop download (spent about 30 minutes on that one with Sling customer Service trying to figure it out, and a lot of help they were btw...)! After you've started the download open/install the CAB like you would any other piece of software on WM, then open the Sling Mobile Player App in your application folder like you would any other app. To set up your Sling player press the bottom left corner and a (invisible) menu should pop up! Viola, do what you do to set up your sling box settings, and you should be ready to go! BTW, if you all already have a software license from another Sling Mobile Player that you may have purchased in the past (for a Symbian S60 or UIQ version), then just enter that one!!! I was about to purchase a PPC license when I figured I'd try my old Symbian S60 one first, and wouldn't you know it worked! So, there is no need to buy another license if you already have a license for a different Sling Mobile Player!
As for the emulator I found that works, the only one that properly worked and supported full screen resolution at WVGA (along with the ability to fully map keyboard buttons and screen presses) was SmartGear which has worked flawlessly so far and supports not only NES ROMs; but GBC, Game Gear, Master System, Turbo Grafix-16, and Genisis/MegaDrive ROMs! All in all it's pretty cool piece of software that I'd highly recommend if you're hankering for some game emulation on your X1 and don't mind paying a little for it! The author of the software has the full download available on his website that you can download as a demo that initially plays for about 2 minutes at a time, so you can make sure your ROMs work, before it quits. The guy that created SmartGear is constantly upgrading it with new features, and has some pretty cool stuff planned for it with future revisions (of which all are free after buying the initial license. This means you constantly have a updated version that supports new devices and features, unlike some of the other older freeware solutions found around online that may not even work and can be up to 5 years old in some cases)! If you're satisfied with locked version you can then buy a license for the full version at the price of $10.00 via PayPal.
Check it out at:
http://www.bitbanksoftware.com/SmartGear.html
Hope this helps anyone having issues with these particular things like I was!
-mike
[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-17 00:25 ]
Posted by doministry
I don't have Xperia yet,
but I must say I really appreciate when somebody shares with others....
Posted by borisisinvin
On 2008-12-16 23:30:24, doministry wrote:
I don't have Xperia yet,
but I must say I really appreciate when somebody shares with others....
No problem, me too.... I wish someone could have pointed me to this stuff in the beginning, it would have saved me countless hours. On that note, I haven't had the easiest time so far finding all of the software I wanted that I thought I easily would online like most people said I would, in part thanks to the X1's unconventional screen size... It's been a real nightmare so far. It's almost usable as a every day phone now, however I've never EVER had to download this much software or do this much tweaking and servicing just to get a phone this close to useable... I have not enjoyed this part of it so far, but hopefully it's smooth sailing from here on out (provided the bugs that came with all of the software compromises don't get to me that is) since I've finally managed to get everything I need on it. Good luck on your purchasing decision!
Posted by max_wedge
On 2008-12-15 06:08:05, borisisinvin wrote:
@ max, certainly, like you said creativity isn't created or determined by any sort of computer or software, but in stop motion (and live action film to a larger extent along with their whole production) and the music industry the long reigning tools of these particular trades have been Final Cut Pro and Pro Tools running on Macs. If you want to have a long healthy career in any field, then you should definitely become intimately familiar with the tools and machines the people of whatever that perspective trade or field use (they are just tools btw, the particular T-O-O-L-S we use), and that's a fact kids across the board. Now, maybe like you said creativity is being hampered by this. "Oh noz, you mean we HAVE to use Final Cut to work in Hollywood?!?" Now understand that to be a "creative type" (read:artist) in MY field you HAVE to be intimately familiar with these tools and machines of my particular field of design (which might I add I PERSONALLY prefer over the alternative...), argument over...
Okay you may have me there, I'm not an expert (or even an ameteur) in the field of video production. Though I'm pretty sure I've heard of production houses that DO use Windows tools. btw, Pro Tools is available for windows, and I believe AVID is widely used in the industry?
Just because MOST of the industry uses MAC, doesn't mean you MUST use MAC to achieve world class results.
BTW, when did I say creativity was being hampered?? Don't put words in my mouth. All I argue with is your premise that someone NEEDS MAC tools to be creative, I'm not arguing with you that MAC hasn't established a strong dominance in the field. Of course they have. And they are good tools. But I say again, it's not the TOOLS that produce the end result, it's the skills and creativity of the engineer using them.
I've seen many many situations in my job as a computer consultant where people have claimed superiority because of their MAC infrastructure, then seen smaller windows based companies perform just as well or better, partly because they are not fixated on the equipment.
Sorry, but that's a fact, argument over...
(Admitedly this has been in the field of audio and desktop publishing, not video.)
I'm not going to recommend equipment that's 50% more expensive unless there is a good reason for it. And in my experience it's rarely so advantageous to use MAC systems that it justifies the extra cost (and this is the decision my customers come to when I give them the pros and cons, I don't make the decision for them).
I've never quoted for a video production environment so I've never looked into the tools of that field. So I'm prepared to cede for now that an artist may need to use Final Cut Pro (and therefore MAC) to work in the most demanding areas of the video industry such as Hollywood.
But I also wouldn't be surprised if there are some Windows based production houses doing very good work out there.
P.S. not all "artist" are necessarily Graphic Designers or Illustrators FYI, mentioning Adobe's PDF standard...
I just mentioned this as one example... I am quite aware of the different artistic fields...
Posted by bider
I've bought black Xperia last thursday. I've been using this fantastic piece of hardware for almost a week. All I can say is that I'm really impressed. I have been a hardcore UIQ user (a great fan also) since the announcement of P910i - after that it was P990 and finally P1i (I've almost started crying when I gave it away). Xperia is my 1st WM device - and the 1st thought was - will I be able to switch from UIQ to WM?. The answer is - with ease! It's absolutly true, that you have to tweak the phone to fit your needs, but after that I can say it's even more than just "usable"... On the other hand after reading this thread I was aware what I'm buying.
Doministry - sell your P1i! X1 is available in ERA - without simlock, or you can buy it on allegro for even 1500pln. It's worth this money! The only disadvantage (for some people) is english menu. It's generic UK version.
Posted by borisisinvin
On 2008-12-17 02:57:18, max_wedge wrote:
On 2008-12-15 06:08:05, borisisinvin wrote:
@ max, certainly, like you said creativity isn't created or determined by any sort of computer or software, but in stop motion (and live action film to a larger extent along with their whole production) and the music industry the long reigning tools of these particular trades have been Final Cut Pro and Pro Tools running on Macs. If you want to have a long healthy career in any field, then you should definitely become intimately familiar with the tools and machines the people of whatever that perspective trade or field use (they are just tools btw, the particular T-O-O-L-S we use), and that's a fact kids across the board. Now, maybe like you said creativity is being hampered by this. "Oh noz, you mean we HAVE to use Final Cut to work in Hollywood?!?" Now understand that to be a "creative type" (read:artist) in MY field you HAVE to be intimately familiar with these tools and machines of my particular field of design (which might I add I PERSONALLY prefer over the alternative...), argument over...
Okay you may have me there, I'm not an expert (or even an ameteur) in the field of video production. Though I'm pretty sure I've heard of production houses that DO use Windows tools. btw, Pro Tools is available for windows, and I believe AVID is widely used in the industry?
Just because MOST of the industry uses MAC, doesn't mean you MUST use MAC to achieve world class results.
BTW, when did I say creativity was being hampered?? Don't put words in my mouth. All I argue with is your premise that someone NEEDS MAC tools to be creative, I'm not arguing with you that MAC hasn't established a strong dominance in the field. Of course they have. And they are good tools. But I say again, it's not the TOOLS that produce the end result, it's the skills and creativity of the engineer using them.
I've seen many many situations in my job as a computer consultant where people have claimed superiority because of their MAC infrastructure, then seen smaller windows based companies perform just as well or better, partly because they are not fixated on the equipment.
Sorry, but that's a fact, argument over...
(Admitedly this has been in the field of audio and desktop publishing, not video.)
I'm not going to recommend equipment that's 50% more expensive unless there is a good reason for it. And in my experience it's rarely so advantageous to use MAC systems that it justifies the extra cost (and this is the decision my customers come to when I give them the pros and cons, I don't make the decision for them).
I've never quoted for a video production environment so I've never looked into the tools of that field. So I'm prepared to cede for now that an artist may need to use Final Cut Pro (and therefore MAC) to work in the most demanding areas of the video industry such as Hollywood.
But I also wouldn't be surprised if there are some Windows based production houses doing very good work out there.
P.S. not all "artist" are necessarily Graphic Designers or Illustrators FYI, mentioning Adobe's PDF standard...
I just mentioned this as one example... I am quite aware of the different artistic fields...
I'm done with you. I wash my hands of you sir. I'm sick of talking in circles with you. You win.... Now moving on to ON TOPIC stuff, because I obviously didn't come HERE of all places to talk shop about something you obviously don't know a thing about.
@ bider, glad to hear that what I posted was helpful to you in some way. I have super high standards for my mobile devices, and just haven't been that impressed with this device. It's JUST ok IMO for the $750.00 I paid for it out of pocket, I'll learn to live with it for the time being at that price. You definitely have to be a tweaker (that sounds way worse than I meant it to be) to get the most out of any WM device, which like I've mentioned several times I just now realized after purchasing the X1, and don't really like about it tbw. I just want my smartphone to work well at what it says it does out of the box, like a S60 based device or iPhone, but to each there own. Mine is still locking up btw, but like I said only if I don't turn it off or reset it everyday or so... Anyone know when that software update someone else on here mentioned is coming out?
Thanks!
Posted by WhyBe
@borisisinvin:
Why don't you make an attempt to return or exchange it with the guy you bought it from? Obviously, no one is sharing your crash-a-day experiences.
Posted by max_wedge
@borisisinvin, if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. If you think you are right, then stand like a man and make your argument, or just don't say anything, but don't get shitty like a little child just because I don't take every word you say as the unquestionable gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ Almighty...
Sheesh mate, wash your hands of me if you like, see if I care. why the f would I care what you think when you take an attitude like that?