Posted by Malkmus
accidentally posted this as a new topic:
Anyway, I'm getting closer to buying the X1 but need to know does it support push e-mail for gmail, and if so is it free? This is something I can't live without on my N95. Thanks!
Posted by MyP910
On 2008-12-04 10:15:40, Malkmus wrote:
accidentally posted this as a new topic:
Anyway, I'm getting closer to buying the X1 but need to know does it support push e-mail for gmail, and if so is it free? This is something I can't live without on my N95. Thanks!
1. I don't really understand about push email. Currently I'm using my X1 for my gmail, I like the way I receive the email just like sms. (I've stopped using my pc except for downloading big attachement). Is this call push email
2. Is it free ? I think you still have to pay for the internet connection (either wi-fi, hsdpa, 3G, Edge...).
3. can some one explain about push email.
Posted by max_wedge
push email: you get the email as soon as it reaches your mail provider ie: they "push it to you", rather than you having to click "send/receive" on your email client (or check on a schedule every 30 minutes or whatever) to get it.
Posted by WhyBe
I'm not sure if Gmail is push capable--it may be.
Windows Live, however, is free push email. All of my Live mail is pushed immediately to my X1. I have all of my Gmail set to automatically forward to my Live account. So, I have push Gmail too
Posted by Nitro Fan
On 2008-12-03 16:33:25, netnerd wrote:
some people will buy anything from nokia! i bet you people are all over it with Nokia N98 with 480x240 resolutions! just like Nokia N97 with that garbage 640x360 resolutions!
Wow that must be the first review! how did you get your hands on the thing?
Posted by l337h1um
On 2008-12-03 19:52:10, Dogmann wrote:
the E90 is still king of the smart phones
Rubbish. Utter rubbish. The E90 is only the king of the smartphones if you like to carry your phone in a backpack.
Edit:
The E90 is so fat, other phones make "yo mama's so fat" jokes about it to its kids.
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Posted by Dogmann
@1337h1um
Well maybe were not all feeble and are prepared to take a bigger heavier device if it gives us a 4" screen that is 25% larger than the X1's.
Along with a full QWERTY keyboard with symbols already on it, not to mention a faster OS from a less powerful but better Processor that doesn't need as much Ram either.
That supports Flash without the need for adding tweaks has better Video recording and playback as well as a better Camera to.
That doesn't suffer from cracks, scratches and battery covers that don't stay on all within weeks of release.
Oh and that is nearing the end of it's life cycle yet is still one of the best and most powerful smart phones available. Just wait until it's replacement arrives and see what that will bring.
As for this comment
" Edit:
The E90 is so fat, other phones make "yo mama's so fat" jokes about it to its kids."
What are you like 12 or something? get a life and grow up.
No one says you have to like it or use it but to deny what it is just because it isn't from SE is just downright pathetic.
Marc
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Posted by bytes
@dogmann, what would you chose between X1, Bold and storm. I have played with X1 several times but still not totally convinced that X1 is for me.
Thanks in advance for your feedback
Posted by WhyBe
@Dogmann
What will the E90 successor have that the N97 won't ?
Posted by l337h1um
Dogmann,
I wasn't attacking you.
Wait. Actually, yeah I was.
But I think you took my post too seriously. I was just stirrin' 
And as a matter of fact, I am in no way a Sony Ericsson fan. My first SE phone was my P1i, and now I have the X1. I am not one of those 
-worshippers. Take the badge of the X1 and put HTC's on it and I couldn't care less (as long as it didn't affect the build quality or software of the device in any way....). In fact, put a keyboard on the Touch HD and I probly woulda got one of those.
You must admit though, the E90 is pretty damn huge. All Nokia's Communicator series phones have been. It's far too big to carry around in your trouser pocket. Well, MY trouser pocket... I dunno maybe you have foot-deep pockets or something. "Denying it what it is" - well, you can put a Core 2 Duo and six gig of RAM in a phone as big as a laptop, and then that would be the king of smart phones, wouldn't it. But a laptop-sized phone is not practical for anyone. Obviously comparing the E90 to a laptop is a bit excessive, but the E90 is still not practical for many people, myself included.
As for your comment about my joke... No I'm not 12. As for getting a life, well I probably do play Call of Duty 4 too much but I still have a life. You just need to get a sense of humour
That joke was not particularly funny, actually it wasn't funny at all really. But still. I respect your opinion, and I actually found your comments about the X1 useful and I agree with most of them. I think you just took me a little too seriously.[ This Message was edited by: l337h1um on 2008-12-05 06:44 ]
Posted by molecule
Guys what does the box of a silver and a back experia read?
Please reply soon. Someone who has bought the phone or cared enough to go through the box.
I am getting a phone where the box reads Black Silver. The dealer says the black ones just read BLACK whereas this one "might" be silver. Once i open the open the box i wont be able to return it.
Posted by mrmilo69
If he wants your business make him find out!
Posted by molecule
In here in India there is not even a single "silver" x1 available. I have been waiting for the silver for more than a month. And if this is the first one which has come down i certainly dont wanna miss.
Posted by Dogmann
@bytes
For me and for now the Bold is my device of choice but that doesn't mean it has to be for anyone else. It really is virtually impossible for any of us to say what is best for someone else without knowing them and what their needs and wants are. Really we can only ever judge what the best device for us is.
@WhyBe
Of course i don't know and can't be certain about what the E90 successor will or will not have. But it's a fairly safe bet as a E class flagship device it will be built from premium materials, it will have a full QWERTY and not the cut down version found in the N97, it will most probably still have a 4" @800x352, i also expect it will have a more powerful processor and I'm not sure it will be a Touchscreen device.
The only thing i am positive of though is that the N97 is NOT the E90 successor and never will be.
@1337h1um
Sorry maybe i did take your comments to seriously but if you have read enough of mine you would know even i don't think the E90 is small or for everyone. But that doesn't stop it being as good and as powerful as it is how can it. As for carrying it around in my trouser pockets well i have never done that with any phone not even a Moto V3 as i have always used leather cases for my phones and worn them on the waist.
Maybe also as i have been around since Cellular first launched and the first portables like the Motorola 8000s even a E90 is tiny by comparison. Once again just because you wouldn't carry and use an E90 because it's to large doesn't mean no one else can or wants to. But how can you make a device smaller and still give it a 4" screen and full QWERTY and i am happy to have a bigger, heavier device for the advantages the larger screen and keyboard give. As although the X1 is small you pay for that with a although wide narrow screen and a less then full QWERTY.
Now some may prefer that to have a smaller lighter phone but not all do or will which is why you have those that love their X1's and then others like me that have sold them. But just because i sold mine doesn't mean i hate it or think it's rubbish or can't understand why for some people it's perfect either.
Marc
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Posted by lakeside01
hey guys what settings are best to be used to convert videos for the x1, and what software is best
Posted by anonymuser
On 2008-12-03 19:52:10, Dogmann wrote:
As despite what you were so happy to say even now so long after release the E90 is still king of the smart phones
Marc, please. The E90 was never king of anything, it was an utter failure, and there's a big questionmark over whether they'll even be a replacement for it, at least in this current generation. Who bought it, apart from you and that guy at AAS?
The Communicator line may have had a long and profitable following amongst business types, but the E90 with its rubbish S60 UI did not. It may have served adequately as a "look at me" flagship for five minutes, but it didn't sell.
If their is a replacement for the E90 in the works, you can guarantee it will be doing things plenty differently - for starters it will be touchscreen whether you like it or not, and it will most probably be made down to a more justifiable price too. Think N97 with less widgets and perhaps a slightly improved keyboard, and you'll be starting to wonder if they'll even bother. E97 anyone?
We're in a global downturn, and Nokia are under pressure from greater competition than they've ever faced - they can't afford to churn out another blog-pleasing, Dogmann-friendly, unsellable fail like the E90.
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-12-05 10:36:16, molecule wrote:
Guys what does the box of a silver and a back experia read?
Please reply soon. Someone who has bought the phone or cared enough to go through the box.
I am getting a phone where the box reads Black Silver. The dealer says the black ones just read BLACK whereas this one "might" be silver. Once i open the open the box i wont be able to return it.
I have a Silver X1i.
There is a sticker on the side of my box that says "X1 Steel Silver".
Other than the picture of a silver X1 on the box there is no indication of what color Xperia is inside.
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Posted by tai020381
On 2008-12-05 12:32:02, lakeside01 wrote:
hey guys what settings are best to be used to convert videos for the x1, and what software is best
Posted by Dogmann
@Boinng,
You really do continue to spout some truly unbelievable rubbish of course not forgetting that just coincidentally which ever OS and device you use is of course always best at the time. First it was UIQ then it was WM and now its Apple wow it must be great to be as on the pulse and insightful as you think you are.
Firstly the E90 was and is no more expensive than any other top end smart phone and was around £500 off contract at launch. It may be a failure for you but isn't and wasn't for lots of very happy users that are still happily using them now. Just because you don't like certain things about it doesn't mean no one else can and to deny the power and usability of it is well just absurd unless it's smarter then you are.
As for what Nokia will or will not do i doubt you know more than most and in fact you most probably less far less in fact. I suggest you just stay happy using your iPhone and worry less about Nokia because i seriously doubt they value your opinions and knowledge at all.
Marc
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Posted by anonymuser
On 2008-12-05 15:04:10, Dogmann wrote:
@Boinng,
You really do continue to spout some truly unbelievable rubbish of course not forgetting that just coincidentally which ever OS and device you use is of course always best at the time. First it was UIQ then it was WM and now its Apple wow it must be great to be as on the pulse and insightful as you think you are.
Eh? I haven't said a word about UIQ, WM, or Apple. I didn't mention the E90 until you declared it "king of smartphones", in this thread about the Xperia X1.
Thanks for the compliment though. I do seem to be fairly "on trend" at the moment. It's not intentional, but not too much of a bad thing either (I certainly dumped UIQ at the right time).
Firstly the E90 was and is no more expensive than any other top end smart phone and was around £500 off contract at launch. It may be a failure for you but isn't and wasn't for lots of very happy users that are still happily using them now. Just because you don't like certain things about it doesn't mean no one else can
Doesn't mean anyone else did, either. The E90 did not sell particularly well, and received VERY mixed reviews with some significant complaints from the very business market it was targetting; these are facts, not my opinion.
and to deny the power and usability of it is well just absurd unless it's smarter then you are.
Plenty of the target market did deny the "power and usability", since in many ways it was less powerful and less usable than the model it replaced. The Register didn't famously label it the "cargo cult communicator" for nothing.
As for what Nokia will or will not do i doubt you know more than most and in fact you most probably less far less in fact. I suggest you just stay happy using your iPhone and worry less about Nokia because i seriously doubt they value your opinions and knowledge at all.
You may well be right, but I wouldn't swear to it. Nokia have made mistakes, and they've moved far too slowly in the face of competition - they may well still be as arrogant and blinkered as you suggest, but they can't afford to stay like that for much longer.
Posted by Hobbs
The Dogmann and Boinng thread.Come on guys.If there was one thread I was looking forward to it was this one.I imagined people informing me about what the X1 was all about,good or bad,a couple of nice short and sweet reviews,what it can do and cant,a couple of cool screenshots for me to see it in action ect
unfortunitely its turned foul and gone a bit pear-shaped.Tell me about the X1 and not everything but.Im happy for Sony Ericsson and there release of the X1.I hope it sells BIG.Ive got a sweet spot for Nokia and SE.I love them both.I just wish there were more people like me.There is some amazing technology out there at the moment and each manufacturer need to get the credit they deserve.Its a real mixed bag out there and we are very fortunate for that.Some like touchscreen,some dont.Some like 4" screens,some say you need a rucksack to carry it in ect ect.Theres so much for us to choose from Apples Iphone,Google Android,Nokia,HTC,Sony Ericsson,Samsung,LG,Motorola.We are spoilt for choice.Find the manufacturer,OS,and spec combination that fits your needs
and enjoy.
Ok,back to the amazing world of the X1.Cmon guys and gals who own one,bedazzle me.
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Posted by Malkmus
On 2008-12-05 16:49:51, HOBBS wrote:
The Dogmann and Boinng thread.Come on guys.If there was one thread I was looking forward to it was this one.I imagined people informing me about what the X1 was all about,good or bad,a couple of nice short and sweet reviews,what it can do and cant,a couple of cool screenshots for me to see it in action ect
unfortunitely its turned foul and gone a bit pear-shaped.Tell me about the X1 and not everything but.Im happy for Sony Ericsson and there release of the X1.I hope it sells BIG.Ive got a sweet spot for Nokia and SE.I love them both.I just wish there were more people like me.There is some amazing technology out there at the moment and each manufacturer need to get the credit they deserve.Its a real mixed bag out there and we are very fortunate for that.Some like touchscreen,some dont.Some like 4" screens,some say you need a rucksack to carry it in ect ect.Theres so much for us to choose from Apples Iphone,Google Android,Nokia,HTC,Sony Ericsson,Samsung,LG,Motorola.We are spoilt for choice.Find the manufacturer,OS,and spec combination that fits your needs
and enjoy.
Ok,back to the amazing world of the X1.Cmon guys and gals who own one,bedazzle me.
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Kudos to that
Posted by borisisinvin
On 2008-12-05 12:32:02, lakeside01 wrote:
hey guys what settings are best to be used to convert videos for the x1, and what software is best
Hey, I have a Mac and use Handbrake. It is the best video ripping and converting software available on a Mac PERIOD. I initially made the mistake of ripping my first video at DVD like quality (the setting I used in Handbrake was the "Normal" setting which rips videos at a average bitrate of 1500, did two pass encoding, and maintained the film's aspect ratio) resulting in a 2GB video file, and then transferred it over to my phone. I think the resolution and bit rate was way too big for the phone, because all it did after I tried to play it on the media panel was hiss and show a blank black screen. So I copied the Bond Trailer over to my computers desktop and looked at it's info. Needless to say I now use the "iPhone & iPod Touch" setting while preserving the intended films aspect ratio and let it rip the video to whatever screen size the program wants (which is usually more or less about the screens size depending on the aspect ratio of the film) ending up with a bit rate of about 128 kbps. It's worked like a charm so far!
@Malkmus, yeah, the speaker on the X1 sounds TINY. It's no where near as loud as my N95 8GB's speakers were.
But, tbh I knew this before buying it, and also knew I was compromising on this feature of the phone when I got it. The N97 speakers (it has STEREO SPEAKERS btw) should be as loud as any other N series phone like you mentioned, which is a good thing if you ask me. I also feel like the the screen on the X1 is a little bit on the tiny side after using it for a few days (it's longer than my N95's screen, but thinner than it). While I know that the resolution on the N97 is less than that of the X1, the larger screen would definitely be better on the eyes for extended viewing sessions and general use (like a long commute). I also can't help but notice quite a bit of motion blur and video stuttering while watching videos on the X1 btw (it's even noticeable on the Bond trailer that comes pre-installed on it, a high quality LCD HDTV this is not). Has anyone else experienced this?
I also have to admit that this is my first WonMob phone, and more than likely my last. I knew what I was getting myself into, but didn't expect anything this bad. It's definitely not the most finger friendly phone out there (stylus use for navigating is so 2000)... It took me about 2 days to come to grips with the OS and learn it's ins and outs (which wasn't expected), in which time I seriously considered selling it and buying something else (this I didn't expect). I'm OK with it now, but definitely have my eyes on the N97, which I'm of the opinion should work better as a everyday phone for me. You have got to love those giant finger friendly widgets shown in the video!
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Posted by Malkmus
Boris, thanks for the info. BTW I just bit the bullet and ordered the X1 through Expansys-Usa under their discounted ATT contract for $575. I figure if I hate the phone I can sell it to someone else and actually make a profit. To anyone else that has ordered from them, maybe you can clarify something. When I placed the order the advertised page said available within 5 days, but my order after purchasing says within 32 DAYS! I hope this is wrong or I will be canceling my order.
Oh,and Boris, I appreciate the negatives you brought up, but since I just purchased it is there anything positive you did like about specifically in contrast to the N95? It would be reassuring.
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Posted by borisisinvin
On 2008-12-06 00:06:35, Malkmus wrote:
Boris, thanks for the info. BTW I just bit the bullet and ordered the X1 through Expansys-Usa under their discounted ATT contract for $575. I figure if I hate the phone I can sell it to someone else and actually make a profit. To anyone else that has ordered from them, maybe you can clarify something. When I placed the order the advertised page said available within 5 days, but my order after purchasing says within 32 DAYS! I hope this is wrong or I will be canceling my order.
Oh,and Boris, I appreciate the negatives you brought up, but since I just purchased it is there anything positive you did like about specifically in contrast to the N95? It would be reassuring.
[ This Message was edited by: Malkmus on 2008-12-05 23:10 ]
Sure, the web browsing experience on this thing is sweet! It's probably the best you can get (using Opera 9.5) on any mobile device (with copy and paste it beats Safari on the iphone IMO). It only took me about 5 minutes to figure out all of the navigation features (opening new tabs and navigating between them is a breeze and great btw), so browsing the web should be a breeze for you. It's just one itsy bitsy step below a actual computer and web browser experience, or if you like about as close to a actual desktop browser as you can get at the moment. This by the way, is the feature you're going to appreciate that extra wide WVGA screen the most on. I also really like the standard 3.5 headphone jack. The qwerty keypad on the phone, contrary to what other people say is pretty damn good. I have no problems typing on it with my sausage fingers. Though, sometimes the letters on the keys are hard to see with the illumination. When the illumination starts to dim while your typing, sometimes the light will dim just sooo that you can't tell the letters from the keys. I also really really REALLY like the optical mouse. It's a little finicky at first, but the sensitivity on it can be adjusted to you liking, so don't sweat that too much. The optical mouse takes a little bit of time to get used to, so give it some time after you get your phone to become accustomed to it. Now, once Sling gets their Slingplayer working on this phone, and I figure out how to put a emulator or two on here it should be perfect. Hope this helps!
-mike
Posted by Malkmus
On 2008-12-06 00:29:56, borisisinvin wrote:
On 2008-12-06 00:06:35, Malkmus wrote:
Boris, thanks for the info. BTW I just bit the bullet and ordered the X1 through Expansys-Usa under their discounted ATT contract for $575. I figure if I hate the phone I can sell it to someone else and actually make a profit. To anyone else that has ordered from them, maybe you can clarify something. When I placed the order the advertised page said available within 5 days, but my order after purchasing says within 32 DAYS! I hope this is wrong or I will be canceling my order.
Oh,and Boris, I appreciate the negatives you brought up, but since I just purchased it is there anything positive you did like about specifically in contrast to the N95? It would be reassuring.
[ This Message was edited by: Malkmus on 2008-12-05 23:10 ]
Sure, the web browsing experience on this thing is sweet! It's probably the best you can get (using Opera 9.5) on any mobile device (with copy and paste it beats Safari on the iphone IMO). It only took me about 5 minutes to figure out all of the navigation features (opening new tabs and navigating between them is a breeze and great btw), so browsing the web should be a breeze for you. It's just one itsy bitsy step below a actual computer and web browser experience, or if you like about as close to a actual desktop browser as you can get at the moment. This by the way, is the feature you're going to appreciate that extra wide WVGA screen the most on. I also really like the standard 3.5 headphone jack. The qwerty keypad on the phone, contrary to what other people say is pretty damn good. I have no problems typing on it with my sausage fingers. Though, sometimes the letters on the keys are hard to see with the illumination. When the illumination starts to dim while your typing, sometimes the light will dim just sooo that you can't tell the letters from the keys. I also really really REALLY like the optical mouse. It's a little finicky at first, but the sensitivity on it can be adjusted to you liking, so don't sweat that too much. The optical mouse takes a little bit of time to get used to, so give it some time after you get your phone to become accustomed to it. Now, once Sling gets their Slingplayer working on this phone, and I figure out how to put a emulator or two on here it should be perfect. Hope this helps!
-mike
Great thanks! That makes me feel a bit better. One more question since you're in LA. Do you have the X1a or X1i. If you have the X1i, what has reception been like? 3g, edge, dropped calls, etc.,
Posted by borisisinvin
@ malkmus, actually I have the X1i with Tmob service. I spent about 2 hours yesterday Googling until I found a site that explained how to configure a PocketPC to T-MobileWeb (the new name for what used to be Tzones) on the phone. At $5.99 a month for unlimited internet and IMAP4 support for my email, it's a hard deal to beat, even if it's JUST at Edge speeds. I almost went with AT&T (or The Devil as I fondly refer to them) like you, but decided against it considering how much I'd end up paying for the phone with a subsidy from Exspasys with a AT&T contract over the 2 years they require at the time of the phones purchase. It would have cost way more in the long run go that route rather than just keeping my existing contract on Tmob (with what I feel to be superior service in LA) and buying the phone outright unsubsidized, $2,000 total with the unsub phone over 2 years with my current Tmob service vs $2,800 for the phone sub with a 2 year with a AT&T contract with less minutes per month... I now pay $39.99 a month for 1,000 anywhere minutes with free nights and weekends, another $3.99 for 400 text messages, and $5.99 for T-MobileWeb a month which totals out to be about $54 a month give or take a dollar or two!
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Posted by borisisinvin
oh, and I forgot to mention I've yet to have a missed call, and the call quality is excellent over GSM and Edge as mentioned in many many reviews. I was at dinner with a friend who owns a iPhone 3G yesterday in Northridge, and had 3 bars and great reception where as he had no coverage!
Posted by l337h1um
Marc,
Yeah the keyboard is a little lacking on the X1, but I prefer it how it is rather than have SE make the phone really wide. Personally, I think the device should have been 7.5 to 12 millimetres wider, but we must remember that this phone was designed to have more mass appeal than WM phones are traditionally known for. Size is everything to some people, and perception doesn't help... My sister thinks my P1 is a brick which is LOLerskates because her V3x is actually 0.5cm taller and 0.2cm deeper, the P1 only being 1cm wider.
There's really only one thing I don't like about the keyboard and that is that there aren't enough symbols on it. I mean the A to G and Z to V keys have no blue Fn on them, and I think we can all agree that was a bit silly of
. Whether the other letter keys had symbols on them or they added a number row and put the symbols there doesn't matter to me, just that I have to open up the OSK just to get a dollar sign...
I can see how many people would have liked the keys to have more feedback or "travel", but personally I have no problem with it.
While
thinking? I mean even if it had 8gb I still would have bought a memory card, but this would be a deal breaker for many consumers.
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-12-05 22:45:19, borisisinvin wrote:
On 2008-12-05 12:32:02, lakeside01 wrote:
hey guys what settings are best to be used to convert videos for the x1, and what software is best
Hey, I have a Mac and use Handbrake. It is the best video ripping and converting software available on a Mac PERIOD. I initially made the mistake of ripping my first video at DVD like quality (the setting I used in Handbrake was the "Normal" setting which rips videos at a average bitrate of 1500, did two pass encoding, and maintained the film's aspect ratio) resulting in a 2GB video file, and then transferred it over to my phone. I think the resolution and bit rate was way too big for the phone, because all it did after I tried to play it on the media panel was hiss and show a blank black screen. So I copied the Bond Trailer over to my computers desktop and looked at it's info. Needless to say I now use the "iPhone & iPod Touch" setting while preserving the intended films aspect ratio and let it rip the video to whatever screen size the program wants (which is usually more or less about the screens size depending on the aspect ratio of the film) ending up with a bit rate of about 128 kbps. It's worked like a charm so far!
I went through this too. Then I realized that I have to significantly lower the bitrate, so the X1 could handle it. Through trial and error, I managed to get it down to 384Kps and now plays videos fine at that rate. I used Sony Vegas 7.0 (original videos) and also Prism video convertor (for DVD's).
I loaded the Bond Trailer into Sony Vegas then realized that SE cheated when rendering that vid. It is only 480 x 260 in resolution at 24fps. "Jazz by the Beach" is reported as 640 x 384 at a frame rate of 100fps ! But it isn't really video, it's just animated jpegs. Both videos DO look good though.
I don't know if this underperformance is due to the unoptimized nature of the X1 or the normal order of things (I'm leaning toward the latter). But when
said "DVD quality video", I was expecting 720x480 / 30fps (or at least VGA/30fps). I haven't had the oppurtunity to try rendering an h.264 video for the X1.[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-12-06 07:08 ]
Posted by tai020381
Try Super converter from erightsoft.com??? But I thin it only works with XP rather thn Vista.
Posted by max_wedge
On 2008-12-06 08:05:23, WhyBe wrote:
But when
said "DVD quality video", I was expecting 720x480 / 30fps (or at least VGA/30fps). Whybe, you should realise by now, when OEM's say "DVD Quality" they really mean VGA resolution and just about the shittiest mp4 h.263 or 3gp codec they can find
They don't even consider framrate part of the equation... 
What about Nokia N95 and it's DVD Quality video recording
They laughed all the way to the bank with that one...
Posted by WhyBe
^^^ OK...we live and we learn
I should know better, because the term CD quality is used to mislead people in the same way
Posted by Jah
@Boinng
I have had 2 E90s and 2 X1s and I don't recognise your views on the E90. After a number of FW upgrades its a wonderfuly quick device and much stable then the WM6.1 X1. I like both devices but I can't concur with you about the E90 being a failure. Please back-up your points with some reported figures please. As far my business colleagues are concerned the E90 is a device for business, no contest from any other Communicator.
Posted by borisisinvin
Hey all, is anyone else having problems with the media panel?... It's buggy as hell on my phone. I have a little over 1400 songs (about 6.7GB's of music) on a 8GB card, and 3 movies (2 short films on the phone's internal memory and one full feature film on the memory card at about 500MB). When I go to the movie panel only the 2 short films show up! If I go through the file explorer on the phone I can find it there and play it using WMP, but who wants to do that when the panel is supposed to do that. Anyone have any suggestions?
Also none of my photos that I transfered to the memory card in the My Pictures file show up in the slide show panel I downloadedl...
I'm beginning to think that the music player in the media panel pretty much has a mind of it's own. I bought this phone because I wanted to use it with my Sony Xplode car deck which has Stereo Bluetooth support built in to connect a stereo bluetooth featured phones or MP3 players. I've been using this same car deck for close to year now with my Nokia N95 8GB before this with NO PROBLEMS. When I now use it with my X1, the phone pretty much freaks out. Sometimes when I select a song and hit play it won't play the song I selected and instead goes straight to the Artist selection menu with a artist I was playing before high lighted and plays nothing, or sometimes it'll start playing a totally different song... The controls on the car deck which worked flawlessly on my N95 do not work at all on the X1, so I can't skip forward or backwards on/through songs or pause a song using the car deck's controls like I could on my N95! Sometimes the music is choppy, and once so far it just messed up and started playing a song in what sounded fast forward loudly! I had to grab the phone and skip the track, and when I got out of the car I found the tack and replayed it, only the file when played over my headphones sounded fine and was definitely encoded and transferred correctly to the phone. Sometimes songs sound super quiet, like the volume just went down. When I turn my car off and disconnect the car deck songs will start to play again on the phone over the speaker! All in all I kind of hate the Media panel and bluetooth implementation on the X1, and am annoyed I can't use it all the way I want to and thought it would function. The Bluetooth is seriously broken on this phone IMHO.
Also, why don't my playlist show up on the phone when I do a itunes transfer using the missing sync? Using Nokia's proprietary media transfer application with my N95 worked flawlessly and even gave me the playlist I had all of the songs in, is this the same with any of you Microsoft computer using owners that use active sync to transfer music?... About the problem with songs not playing right, does anyone think this may have something to do with the amount of songs I have installed on the memory card?... What happens when I put a 16GB card in it or a 32GB when those come out, which I plan on doing in the future, and put more of my music and videos on it?... It's already super slow switching songs as it is... Will this be worse with more of everything on a larger card?... I figured that the media player would be as good as Sony's Proprietary Walkman music playing software on any of their other phones, boy was I wrong.
Does anyone know where I can get a NES and GBA emulator cab file?....
-thanks
mike
[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-07 18:19 ]
Posted by borisisinvin
Oh, and why do songs stop when I exit the media panel, lame and frustrating....
Posted by Dogmann
@Max
Oh well at least it's not just me that gets misquoted then even the great Nokia do as if you check you will find no where did they say DVD quality. It was always and is near DVD quality and that was when they were talking about Video recording to @640x480 30fps all that time ago now on the N93.
@WhyBe
I really don't want to be a i told you so sort of person but think it would be very interesting if you re read some of the earlier posts on this thread. Where despite what i tried to explain you did insist the X1 was going to be the best at Video Playback and much better than the E90 which i believe you have now discovered isn't quite true. Again the Qualcomm processor may have a higher clock speed but when it counts the OMAP2420 with Power VR MBX graphics chip really is if not the best one of the best chips still currently used. Although i do wish they would hurry up and release some OMAP3 powered devices which IMO is well overdue.
But having said that i did convert quite a few things for the X1 using Movavi Video Converter 6 and the settings it gives are posted in this thread. The only setting i had to enter was the 800x480 and choose MPEG4 as file type the program generated the rest. As i have said previously i found the full screen results excellent with no lag or stutter or out of sync problems at all. This wasn't an area that i wasn't happy with the X1 far from it is true.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-12-06 19:11 ]
Posted by molecule
Guys can someone tell me how to change the SMS tone on the X1? I know its somewhere on this thread but I cant find it.
Posted by masseur
in WM go to settings -> personal -> sounds and notifications -> notifications tab
from the event drop down select Messaging: New Text message
in the drop down box underneath that choose your sound
Posted by WhyBe
@Dogmann
My only complaint is that I have to use such a low bitrate (384kbps) which is definitely not DVD level. The X1 video quality IS good at 384kbps though.
Anyways, I doubt if the E90 can play a 1500kbps 30fps VGA video either
In my earlier posts, I was trying to get the point across to you that the E90 doesn't encode h.264 @ 30fps / VGA...you insisted it did. Whether the e90 plays video better than the X1 or not, I don't know but I'm quite pleased with the X1 video. I've never looked at an E90 playing video to compare. So the jury is still out on that one
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-12-06 19:52 ]
Posted by max_wedge
On 2008-12-06 20:03:11, Dogmann wrote:
@Max
Oh well at least it's not just me that gets misquoted then even the great Nokia do as if you check you will find no where did they say DVD quality. It was always and is near DVD quality and that was when they were talking about Video recording to @640x480 30fps all that time ago now on the N93.
Who cares, it's still a lie. They know that whether they say "near" or not the average punter just reads "DVD Quality". Fact is vga mp4 is no where near DVD quality. An average DVD runs at about 6MBps (and can run up to 10) and 720 x 576 resolution.
It's the same thing calling 128Kbps mp3 "near cd quality". What a joke.
Next time you watch a N93 video stream really ask yourself - "if I was watching this on a professionally recorded DVD, would I consider it "near DVD quality"? Wouldn't you feel just a little ripped of if you bought a movie on DVD and it had the quality of N93 recorded video?
N93 video can't even be compared favourably to a poor quality VCD let alone a fulll quality DVD. I don't understand how people can propogate, let alone believe, these marketing lies.
Posted by molecule
masseur
I am not able to find my desired tone in that folder. I tried to copy the desired tone to the my doecuments my ringtones section as well as windows/rings foler but the drop down menu just does not shows the tone. Its a mp3 tone.
Please help.
Posted by tegera
I've just bought and installd Garmin mobil Xt, but i cant get any gps signal. any one that knows how or what i've done wrong?. garmin is set up to use seriell gps unit is it right?
Posted by Osmano
On 2008-12-07 07:24:43, molecule wrote:
masseur
I am not able to find my desired tone in that folder. I tried to copy the desired tone to the my doecuments my ringtones section as well as windows/rings foler but the drop down menu just does not shows the tone. Its a mp3 tone.
Please help.
HI! Put your tones in the big windowsfile (root of it) Not in rings. It worked for me. Then you will find your tones for sms.
Posted by molecule
Osmano thanks it worked!
I am getting used to the WM. Started liking the X1 even more.
Posted by molecule
Guys annyways to have a full sceen picture of the caller when the call comes in. the display pic looked awesome when i was using UIQ. In WM the picture is so small it remind me of symbian old times.
Posted by borisisinvin
Ok, the movie I transfered over to the memory card showed up in the My Media Panel after I soft reset the phone, still learning Win Mob.... The music player in the Media Panel on the other hand is just broken by the way... The stuff I talked about it doing, it does ALL of the time, not just when it's hooked up to my car deck through bluetooth. I hadn't noticed it until now, because I mostly use it in conjunction with my car deck. It's definitely a broken beta piece of software, so buyers should definitely beware if they're planning on buying this thing to replace another phone that serves this function, or plan on using this thing exclusively as their MP3 player.... When does SE plan on giving us a software update for this thing btw?...
Posted by tai020381
I also think the media player has its flaws. Theres no equalizer and you cannot skip songs using bluetooth. When I play music, I use its Windows Media Player using another software to create playlist. It did not provide equalizer too, but sound quality is good enough for X1. Good thing is that I can skip songs and adjust volume using my bluetooth headset ^^
Posted by bloob
This is what I have reported to X1 support last month...
Media Xperiance Panel - only A2DP support, no AVRCP support, music stops playing when you leave the panel for another panel, music continues to play when you move to another application via Start menu
Media Player - A2DP support, limited AVRCP support (play/stop, previous/next track, volum up/down), no track information displayed
Bluetooth - does not accurately show all the services available in the connected device, stops/skips when phone switches between 2G/3G/HSPA, general performance issues during audio playback 96kbps and above.
BUT despite these issues, the sound quality from X1 is very very good.
Posted by borisisinvin
Ok, glad to hear that I'm not the only one experiencing all of these problems with the Media Panel! I was starting to get worried that it was just me. Sure the sound is good, but it's not THAT good to have to deal with all of this bullshit. I wish I had waited a little longer to buy this thing at Best Buy so I could return it for a full refund, because as it now stands the more I use it the more I want to return it. Also, this phone has locked up on me HARD about 3 times so far in about 5 days of use (and while doing nothing special or taxing at that), and SO hard that I had to remove the battery each time, which wouldn't be a big deal if I didn't have to struggle sooo hard to remove the damn battery cover tbw. I think my phone is the only phone produced out of the whole production line that the customer doesn't have to worry about their battery cover accidentally popping off like other users have mentioned theirs doing on their X1's...
[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2008-12-08 08:01 ]