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US$1125..hmm..
Posted by jazzywheelz
On 2008-11-02 13:57:04, the_mont wrote:
On 2008-11-02 13:44:59, jazzywheelz wrote:
I've been finding my way around my X1 for 24 hours now and I absolutely love it. Just one problem so far... I can't seem to receive anything by bluetooth. I have tried sending files from three different phones but it fails every time. Sending files from the X1 to another phone worked fine, but I can't receive anything. Any ideas anyone?
Goto start->settings/connections/bluetooth. Then click on "Mode" tab, select "Make this device visable to other devices".
Once the device has been paired, you can uncheck the box, if you like.
Chris.
Already did that before I tried, but no joy. Any other ideas?
Posted by the_mont
TouchFlow 3D Review update for those interested:
==================================
The Good:
- excellent look and feel
- increased font size and buttons (one for you Marc 
)
- full customisable options and settings
- weather panel that links to a website to give you information on the sky
above in your area, for the next 5 days. It also can retain information for
upto 6 other cities around the world
- excellent music player with clean interface (better than WMA player & SE
own) Album art is also displayed. "Audio Boost" for those who wish to add
Bass and dilute perfectly well recorded music
- excellent "people" panel, where you can put your favourite contacts, so
you can easily phone/text/email them. It can also show an enlarged
picture of your favourite contact
- fast panel response for message/emails
The Bad:
- slow to install
- bit slow to load panels with lots of information, like the Music panel.
However this improves when cached, and album art retrieved (so be
patience 
)
Others have reported X1 crashing, but that has not happened to me. I think that'll be more to do with memory management - basically too many apps installed or running at the same time. To preserve battery and memory I always close down running apps that I'm not using. Why wouldn't you?
Any questions about it, feel free to ask, and I'll do my best to answer.
Regards,
Chris
Posted by MYB87
On 2008-11-02 14:10:09, gforce23 wrote:
US$1125..hmm..
OH! its Canadian $
Posted by the_mont
Goto start->settings/connections/bluetooth. Then click on "Mode" tab, select "Make this device visable to other devices".
Once the device has been paired, you can uncheck the box, if you like.
Chris.
Already did that before I tried, but no joy. Any other ideas?
Hmmm, never had any problems with it, switch if off and back on again, don't try to connect to anything for about a minute (I've noticed Bluetooth takes time, active on phone sometimes). Then try re-pairing devices, from the X1 to the other device. I use passkey security.
Chris
Posted by d-southwest
To The_Mont
How did you get tha TouchFlow 3D?
Does that X1 only have one speaker or 2 speakers?
Posted by the_mont
On 2008-11-02 15:08:32, d-southwest wrote:
To The_Mont
How did you get tha TouchFlow 3D?
Does that X1 only have one speaker or 2 speakers?
Touchflow:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ytzjazmmwyi/TF3D_HD.CAB
Download .cab file to your X1 and click on it, it will self-install. N.B. Do it when you have some downtime (takes 30-40 mins to install!) so don't interrupt it, to prevent problems.
It has one speaker phone, which is standard.
Chris
Posted by Tigershark42
Here are some questions for X1 owners: when playing music with the X1, can you go to another panel or any other part of the phone and continue listening? Can you use hardware keys to control the player? How do you go about changing music, and locking the phone if its in your pocket?
Also, is it true that everyone can hear a call when the call speaker is on?
What about regular Java based software (games and apps) that A1 and A2 can run? Can the X1 run those (allbeit in a smaller area of the screen)?
[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-11-02 15:12 ]
Posted by MyP910
After about 24 hrs using the phone, I'm getting used to windows mobile OS (this is my first winmo device). I'm happy that the phone is fast because this is the main reason I hate P990.
Since using P800, I'm used to handwriting recognition using stylus.... and quite scared if the handwriting recognition of X1 is not as good as the P series.... Luckily, after trying several handwriting options in the Xperia, I found out that `letter recognizer' format is most similar to P series handwriting recognition where you have three separate area for capital letters, numbers and small letters... and it works nicely. Well done !
[ This Message was edited by: MyP910 on 2008-11-02 15:24 ]
[ This Message was edited by: MyP910 on 2008-11-02 16:12 ]
Posted by Mizzle
Hopefully some of you have been using WM devices for a long time, so here's a quick question. On X1, you can use your finger to scroll through menus and lists in the WM interface. For how long has that been possible with WM?
Posted by pinguino1
WOW! What a gang! It was just a comment.
I wasn’t expecting so many helping hands
Thank you guys
@Masseurvery strange, I find it almost impossible to type the wrong
key due to the error correction, and everyone I know with the iphone, and
those who have posted here on Esato in the iphone discussion have
aclaimed the error correction on the keyboard as near perfect
Hi Masseur,
I’m listening to you man. I’ll pay attention to virtual keyboards. The iPhone
was my first experience. It felt I have to pay attention to too many little
things (key pops, little boxes etc) instead of just typing. Perhaps I’m bias
against iphone. (half phone). With respect to iPhone owners, I call my
brother an idiot for buying that stuff)
@Myth®I don't know, if SE have added a Keyboard which provides
a similar onscreen typing experience to that of the iphone, but if you
believe that it is not the best but closest match for your needs, you may try
Resco Keyboard:
http://www.resco.net
Looks great maybe better than the IPhone it seems to have more options:
Stylus, different layouts, skins, math. I have only one question, will it work
on WVGA? Landscape?
@The_montI've had the X1 for 5 days now, and whilst I used to
type extremely quickly with one hand, using T9, I'm now happily typing
quite fast using the keyboard.
Obviously some people love virtual keyboards, but personally I like to feel
keys. I think the keyboard is good, and keys travel sufficiently to know
you've press them.
Only thing missing is a bunch of smiley's, lol.
Chris
I’m happy for you Chris,
It’s always feels good when someone reassures what we believe. When I
get my Xperia the very first thing I will do is put my fingers on it and feel
that keyboard.
Thanks.
Posted by myth®
@pinguino
Yes, it works in both modes and I have no idea how it will look on a VGA or WVGA screen, but it should work.
Maybe someone here can try it out and tell us how it looks on a X1.
Posted by ramintop
On 2008-11-02 13:49:34, Mizzle wrote:
X1 display compared to K850 display. Picture was shot in RAW for optimal colour reproduction and with manual settings (1/60 sec, f/4 and ISO 200).
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[ This Message was edited by: Mizzle on 2008-11-02 12:52 ]
that is absolutely gorgeous! 
can you post the full sized picture plz? and also that photo of the silver x1 you posted a while back, that everyone said it was the best pic of the x1. thanks in advance.
Posted by pinguino1
On 2008-11-02 16:23:32, MyP910 wrote:
After about 24 hrs using the phone, I'm getting used to windows mobile OS
(this is my first winmo device). I'm happy that the phone is fast because
this is the main reason I hate P990.
Since using P800, I'm used to handwriting recognition using stylus.... and
quite scared if the handwriting recognition of X1 is not as good as the P
series.... Luckily, after trying several handwriting options in the Xperia, I
found out that `letter recognizer' format is most similar to P series
handwriting recognition where you have three separate area for capital
letters, numbers and small letters... and it works nicely. Well done !
Hi MyP910,
Thanks for mentioning "letter reconizer". I was discussing above virtual
keyboards. I remember now when i had a Palm Pilot similar to what you
mention. It was fantastic I was able to write down a conversation or
conference without ever looking at the device without missing a word.
Thank you for let it me know, there more typing options in the Xperia.
Posted by McKinley
I have been travelling around in Sweden and Germany this week and have finally been able to try its reception.
My verdict: Sony Ericsson definitely need to sort the problems.
While my Nokia N82 remain connected with my operator did X1 lose it way too many times to find it unacceptable.
WiFi as I have mentioned before is not particularly good and it's also slower than than all phones I have tried.
Other issues worth to mention are the Opera browser which is very sluggish from time to time and occasionally gives me error messages.
SMS typing is slow and with any media player activated, it's a pain to use.
Some received MMS just wont open unless I change to portrait mode.
One can guess my dissatisfaction about this product which I consider not being fully completed.
I don't know who to blame in this case? Is it Windows or is it Sony Ericsson?
I hope any Sony Ericsson or Windows representative is reading this.
Posted by Mizzle
sorry, ramintop, I've deleted that pretty pic, but here's the display comparison one. I'll have plenty more in my upcoming review of X1.
http://rapidshare.com/files/160005906/_DSC1258.jpg.html
Posted by SE-Naz
On the X1 are you able to choose your own ringtone???
Cheers
ENJOY
Posted by Tigershark42
On 2008-11-02 15:31:40, Tigershark42 wrote:
Here are some questions for X1 owners: when playing music with the X1, can you go to another panel or any other part of the phone and continue listening? Can you use hardware keys to control the player? How do you go about changing music, and locking the phone if its in your pocket?
Also, is it true that everyone can hear a call when the call speaker is on?
What about regular Java based software (games and apps) that A1 and A2 can run? Can the X1 run those (albeit in a smaller area of the screen)?
Could someone please answer any of these?
Posted by d-southwest
On 2008-11-02 15:14:21, the_mont wrote:
On 2008-11-02 15:08:32, d-southwest wrote:
To The_Mont
How did you get tha TouchFlow 3D?
Does that X1 only have one speaker or 2 speakers?
Touchflow:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ytzjazmmwyi/TF3D_HD.CAB
Download .cab file to your X1 and click on it, it will self-install. N.B. Do it when you have some downtime (takes 30-40 mins to install!) so don't interrupt it, to prevent problems.
It has one speaker phone, which is standard.
Chris
Thanks Chris for a fast respone
I dont have tha phone yet
But i was hopin that tha media player will improve with a new software or FW
But im still gonna get one!!
To All
is playing music by the speaker hard enough for everyone?
Peace
Posted by d-southwest
To Chris
I downloaded the TF3D on my pc , but I dont what to do next 
?
Can you help?
Peace
Posted by McKinley
On 2008-11-02 15:31:40, Tigershark42 wrote:
Here are some questions for X1 owners: when playing music with the X1, can you go to another panel or any other part of the phone and continue listening?
No not with the including media player.
The music stops immediately when you press the panel button and only continues until you select the media panel.
@d-southwest.
You will not be able to do anything with the cab file until you get your Xperia. Once you get it, transfer it to your phone and find your cab file through your file explorer (I don't know what it calls in English) found by pressing Windows logo > programme > file explorer
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2008-11-02 18:20 ]
Posted by ramintop
thanks mizzle! wow its amazing how sharp x1's screen is!
Posted by jazzywheelz
@ the_mont
I've managed to get my bluetooth working now. I've no idea why it wouldn't work before but it's working now. Many thanks.
Posted by d-southwest
On 2008-11-02 19:08:44, McKinley wrote:
On 2008-11-02 15:31:40, Tigershark42 wrote:
Here are some questions for X1 owners: when playing music with the X1, can you go to another panel or any other part of the phone and continue listening?
@d-southwest.
You will not be able to do anything with the cab file until you get your Xperia. Once you get it, transfer it to your phone and find your cab file through your file explorer (I don't know what it calls in English) found by pressing Windows logo > programme > file explorer
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2008-11-02 18:20 ]
Thanks McKinley for your help
Posted by MYB87
On 2008-11-02 16:50:14, Mizzle wrote:
Hopefully some of you have been using WM devices for a long time, so here's a quick question. On X1, you can use your finger to scroll through menus and lists in the WM interface. For how long has that been possible with WM?
i believe HTC introduced the kinetic scrolling in their first Touch series little after the iphone
Posted by Mizzle
So, it's not WM 6.1 standard?
Posted by MYB87
umm not sure if they implemented it as part of the OS after HTC introduced it
Posted by Krzysiecw
I`m afraid that only HTC made it for now in their touch flo ... In next WM 7 this will be avaliable ...
Posted by d-southwest
To all
How is the sound quality with music playing through speakers?
Posted by Mizzle
You can use your finger to swipe through all menus on the X1.
Posted by Supa_Fly
Screw TouchFlo 3D.
Check out the SBP Shell on 's site. This is incredible! Navigate to anywhere on the phone without looking at Windows Mobile horrible UI.
OK now I'm interested in what the Xperia X1 has got to offer. Still would be stoked at SE's rendition of a Symbian Foundation TouchUI device though.
* How good is the 3.2MP Quality pics - and no fanboy bull of wool that dude pulled over our eyes with the K850i please. Is the pics better than all the previous or current SE A2 phones?
* what is the video recording resolution; QVGA or VGA and at what speeds 15/24/30fps?
I must say that the form factor design - curved slide has the Nokia E90 beat in terms of size - but how slippery is that keyboard for rapid typing on??
Thanks.
Posted by bider
Here's nice review from pocketnow.com:
http://www.pocketnow.com/inde[....]ortal_detail&t=reviews&id=1107
and nice comparison pics (also from pocketnow.com):
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Posted by MyP910
On 2008-11-02 21:07:40, Krzysiecw wrote:
I`m afraid that only HTC made it for now in their touch flo ... In next WM 7 this will be avaliable ...
I think the finger touch scrolling is already embedded in WM 6.1. in the Xperia, you can use your finger to scroll all the programs, the media and some other places including the web browser.
Posted by the_mont
On 2008-11-02 19:08:44, McKinley wrote:
On 2008-11-02 15:31:40, Tigershark42 wrote:
Here are some questions for X1 owners: when playing music with the X1, can you go to another panel or any other part of the phone and continue listening?
No not with the including media player.
The music stops immediately when you press the panel button and only continues until you select the media panel.
Actually the music still plays - when using the Touchflow player .
It also works through the Windows Media Player, without problems (don't use it but just tested it).
Obviously incoming calls/text interrupt music, but it will restart playing when the call is ended.
Chris
Posted by d-southwest
To Chris
Does tha Touchflow Player has an equalizer?
Peace and thanks
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
I'm interested in seeing photo's the 3.2mp camera has taken. If anyone can help with any links or upload some then that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Posted by the_mont
On 2008-11-02 23:49:38, d-southwest wrote:
To Chris
Does tha Touchflow Player has an equalizer?
Peace and thanks
No fraid not - I don't agree with them personally. Music is extensively mixed by professional when the original recordings are made, so why change it?
BTW - Volume level is very good. There is a bass boost of sorts, called "Audio Booster".
Chris
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-11-03 00:32:24, the_mont wrote:
On 2008-11-02 23:49:38, d-southwest wrote:
To Chris
Does tha Touchflow Player has an equalizer?
Peace and thanks
No fraid not - I don't agree with them personally. Music is extensively mixed by professional when the original recordings are made, so why change it?
BTW - Volume level is very good. There is a bass boost of sorts, called "Audio Booster".
Chris
@the_mont:
Actually, professionals mix music "flat", meaning it is mixed full well knowing listeners are going to manipulate it with their equalizers or tone controls (Bass and Treble). Mixing flat ensures that their recording will sound best on the broadest range of playback systems (from iPods to Big stereo systems to car stereos). Listening to music with no equalization is like eating food with no seasoning...you can do it, but most people like to personalize it to their taste. I believe D-Southwest wants to add tons of bass (like me ). And no recording is going to give that sound without using an equalizer.
@D-Southwest:
Here are some applications listed on Handango that feature equalizers:
LCG Jukebox
Pocket Player
VITO Sound Explorer
I'm sure there are plenty others.
Posted by driftmania
Is the touchscreen on this capacitive or resistive and is the touchscreen as responsive/fluid as the one on the iPhone and G1?
[ This Message was edited by: driftmania on 2008-11-03 01:16 ]
[ This Message was edited by: driftmania on 2008-11-03 01:23 ]
Posted by Dogmann
@WhyBe
I really don't know where you have gotten this idea from about Music being mixed flat and you are meant to use EQ as basically that's the biggest load of BS i've read for a long time.
Whilst we may all have slightly different preferences of how we like our Music to sound EQ's in most devices are there to help hide the hardwares deficiencies and boost the frequencies they are incapable of reproducing clearly.
The other time when EQ's are necessary is when people encode their music at low bit rates and their isn't sufficient information to be decoded and give good results.
Recording Artists and Producers most certainly do not spend hours and huge amounts of money mixing their Music flat for the user to then use EQ on. So i totally agree with what the_mont has said as that is right and how it is.
I listen to all my Music @256 AAC and never use any EQ settings and that is how the Music sounds best as the Artist and Producer wanted it to sound. Well encoded Music and a good set of Head/ear phones is far more important then some pseudo performance improving EQ that tries to improve the sound artificially.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-11-03 01:15 ]
Posted by WhyBe
@Dogmann:
I mix music professionally. I won't argue with you.
Posted by Dogmann
@WhyBe
OK so please explain why if as you claim Music is mixed flat that different artist's use different producers to have different sounds and all these producers get paid large fees and or points for there work then? If after all you claim Music is mixed flat and is left for the user to adjust via EQ then how come records all sound exactly the same when played by different Radio stations all across the world? or do they all just manage to choose the same EQ settings and this happens by magic then?
I have been around people in the Music industry for many years when i was younger and everything from people working in publishing through to artists i have also spent plenty of time in recording studios to whilst final mixes take place. Not once have i ever come across anyone doing a final mix and making it flat for the user to use EQ on to get the desired sound.
So if you are working in the Music industry and really believe that artists and producers mix Music flat for people to then use EQ to get the best sound well I'm stunned and would love to know just what you do?unless of course your Dr Dre!!!
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-11-03 01:56 ]
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-11-03 02:55:53, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe
OK so please explain why if as you claim Music is mixed flat that different artist's use different producers to have different sounds and all these producers get paid large fees and or points for there work then? If after all you claim Music is mixed flat and is left for the user to adjust via EQ then how come records all sound exactly the same when played by different Radio stations all across the world? or do they all just manage to choose the same EQ settings and this happens by magic then?
I have been around people in the Music industry for many years when i was younger and everything from people working in publishing through to artists i have also spent plenty of time in recording studios to whilst final mixes take place. Not once have i ever come across anyone doing a final mix and making it flat for the user to use EQ on to get the desired sound.
So if you are working in the Music industry and really believe that artists and producers mix Music flat for people to then use EQ to get the best sound well I'm stunned and would love to know just what you do?unless of course your Dr Dre!!!
Flat means an even frequency response across the audio spectrum (from 20Hz to 20000Hz). If you were to look at a "flat" mix on a spectrum analyzer, you would see a relatively flat line going across (not completely flat but relatively). This ensures proper Signal to Noise ratio and RMS levels on the recording medium. It also allows cheap consumer equipment (stuff most people listen to music on) to faithfully reproduce the mix. In the professional world "flat" is not a bad word.
The reason you think all radio stations sound the same is because your ears are not trained Different radio stations sound differently to me. I can probably tell you what type of EQ curve each station is using just by listening. If you listen closely to two stations playing the same song, and switch back and forth, you would hear that they actually sound different. One may sound warmer or clearer than the other (assuming clear reception).
There is the recording , the mixing, the mastering and the playback stages. All of these stages use EQ. EQ is used to get the best sound for THAT particular stage in the process.
I'm trying to keep it simple. This could get really technical and lengthy.
Posted by l337h1um
@Doggman,
WhyBe is right. You want everything as flat as possible. This gives the truest reproduction of the original source.
Wikipedia wrote:
The goal of equalization is to correct, or make equal, the frequency response of a signal
...
Ideally, a sound system would produce a flat frequency response. The frequency response of a room is examined with a Spectrum analyzer and usually a graphic equalizer, with matching frequency bands, is used to compensate for the room acoustics. This is standard practice for sound recording studios, live sound reinforcement systems and some High fidelity sound systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalization
[ This Message was edited by: l337h1um on 2008-11-03 02:36 ]
Posted by WhyBe
On 2008-11-03 03:30:27, l337h1um wrote:
Wikipedia wrote:
The goal of equalization is to correct, or make equal, the frequency response of a signal.
That's correct but misleading because it only states one use of an EQ. EQ's have many uses. On the professional side it is also used to shape the tonality of a sound...making the sound incorrect, so to speak! This (along with other tools) is what gives different sounds and instruments their "personality".
Posted by l337h1um
Sorry WhyBe, I wasn't finished. I have a nasty habit of posting stuff I'm not finished with and editing it two minutes later.
Posted by WhyBe
^^ Me too
I just read the entire Wiki article. They eventually stated the point I was making. My response was based just on the first line you had quoted.
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-11-03 02:51 ]
Posted by Creid
anyone got a link to themes ?
doesn't seem to be many WVGA themes, cheers
Posted by max_wedge
On 2008-11-01 01:05:02, Tigershark42 wrote:
Ive seen extreme contrasts with what people think of WinMo handsets. The one who doesnt bother to see what it can really do and just uses it as it comes, he says its slow, dated, boring etc etc etc. The one who downloads new software, takes an interest and knows what he is doing says it is brilliant and it can do anything he wants. So it just depends what you're looking for. If its not the latter, then its not WinMo you want.
Spot on.
Legend
On 2008-11-01 13:40:59, the_mont wrote:
I'm also on Vodafone, and I've already had a conversation with Sony Ericsson and Vodafone about the Wi-Fi issue. Wi-Fi does not work, even though you can connect to it, it won't use that connection. Both sets of developers are working to find a solution, so you can bear with it, or move networks where phones are unbranded if it's important to you.
Personally I'm not too bothered as the non-Wi Fi connection is fast enough for me at the moment.
In short - Vodafone reprogrammed and made a mess of it, BTW if anyone has the new C905, the same problem exists.
f%&$ me, they are completely useless!!! In their eagerness to ensure you never accidently manage to NOT USE VODAFONE when accessing the net, they actually kill of wifi altogether! 
Not unlike Vodafone to consider their right to make money off you stronger then your right to get the product you asked for.
Posted by Merlyn101
Hi All.
Can you use the X1 without a simcard as is possible with most Winmob. phones?
Thanks in advance!
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