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Posted by Leks

On 2008-10-14 00:48:38, Turboguard wrote:

On 2008-10-13 22:26:27, waibun_lee wrote:
Ahhh well, still a fancy piece of hardware. Some people want a 5MP camera on this thing and I only want to use the LED as a torch



Hahaha! You just made my day!

And again another question (thanks you all btw for answering my earlier ones);

Am I just confused, why does it cost money to use the gps on the X1 and not on the Iphone 3G?
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[ This Message was edited by: Turboguard on 2008-10-13 23:51 ]


Ehm , it do cost 3g/edge traffic on Iphone aswell.


Posted by Rodin69

On 2008-10-13 13:28:15, mattiL wrote:

Hi Rodin69

Which brand/model of headset did you use ?



Hi! I used a HBH-PV705. It has been working quite well with my P990 for two years.

Posted by max_wedge

On 2008-10-14 09:30:51, Leks wrote:

On 2008-10-14 00:48:38, Turboguard wrote:

On 2008-10-13 22:26:27, waibun_lee wrote:
Ahhh well, still a fancy piece of hardware. Some people want a 5MP camera on this thing and I only want to use the LED as a torch



Hahaha! You just made my day!

And again another question (thanks you all btw for answering my earlier ones);

Am I just confused, why does it cost money to use the gps on the X1 and not on the Iphone 3G?
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[ This Message was edited by: Turboguard on 2008-10-13 23:51 ]


Ehm , it do cost 3g/edge traffic on Iphone aswell.


it cost money to download maps but if you have them saved on your memory card then it's free. I have copilot navigation software on my WM ipaq and it works off the memory card. GPS itself doesn't cost anything - it pics up signals direct from the GPS satelittes - you don't need an internet connection to get a gps lock.

Posted by joel80
Gah!
Found one very irritaing thing with the WIFI-settings. Confirmed it with XP-support as well.

There is no way to set different settings for diffrent networks other then password and so..

This mean that everyime you change network to another network that doesn't have DHCP you have to change the network settings with IP-adress and router and so on. There is no way to have diffrent places set as I have found out.. and the support didn't know a way as well.

Maby there is a third party software for this? Anyone who got any idéa, please let me/us know!


//Joel




Posted by se-fan
I will get two X1 Silver tomorrow:) my lucky day!

Cheers

Posted by Cyber.bee

On 2008-10-14 12:50:48, joel80 wrote:
Gah!
Found one very irritaing thing with the WIFI-settings. Confirmed it with XP-support as well.

There is no way to set different settings for diffrent networks other then password and so..

This mean that everyime you change network to another network that doesn't have DHCP you have to change the network settings with IP-adress and router and so on. There is no way to have diffrent places set as I have found out.. and the support didn't know a way as well.

Maby there is a third party software for this? Anyone who got any idéa, please let me/us know!


//Joel




How about trying this software... http://www.freewarepocketpc.n[....]load-wifi-profiles-v0-0-2.html

Posted by gotanyglazby
Anyone know which uk provider has dibs on the x1?...
I'm on vodafone at the minute and is on their site coming soon.. wouldnt mind changing network though!

cheers

Posted by gotanyglazby
edit - just found it on the 02 site.

http://mobilereviews.o2.co.uk[....]/device.jsp?deviceId=522&tab=1



Posted by Cyber.bee
I called in O2 Germany today and I was told they have it currently available! So all germans here on Esato: go get it... I will go for my upgrade the next days!

Posted by joel80

On 2008-10-14 13:07:58, Cyber.bee wrote:

How about trying this software... http://www.freewarepocketpc.n[....]load-wifi-profiles-v0-0-2.html


Thanks! You are a Saviour!

//Joel

Posted by masseur
...and thats what I really like about WM.

No manufacturer can give you all that you want so its down to the community support and development, and WM has just about everything you could wish for out there!

Posted by joel80
ohny wanted a picture of the swedish keyboard layout.. maby other people are intrested.. most pics are without åäö..
So here is one with the swedish keyboard-layout:





Posted by Cyber.bee


Thanks! You are a Saviour!

//Joel

Glad I could help. Hopefully it is what you need and works nice.


Posted by Indrawan
iam still confused...

tracy and matt said that x1 128MB RAM of 384MB RAM is for 3D chip...how did they know about that ? i think x1 RAM is DDr SDRAM not VRAM...i means if x1 ram is 384MB DDR SDRAM so it doesnt mean it is VRAM...can you explain it ?

Posted by mobman
Quote:

On 2008-10-14 13:51:55, Cyber.bee wrote:
I called in O2 Germany today and I was told they have it currently available! So all germans here on Esato: go get it... I will go for my upgrade the next days!



anybody else confirm this? surely o2 uk cant be too far behind...

Posted by Minshelin
o2 are stocking w/c 20th of October

Posted by goldenface

On 2008-10-14 13:31:38, gotanyglazby wrote:
edit - just found it on the 02 site.

http://mobilereviews.o2.co.uk[....]/device.jsp?deviceId=522&tab=1



O2 and Orange UK Take On The X1

Posted by mobman
i dont think that orange are taking the x1. thought it was just o2 and voda?

Posted by goldenface
Sorry, it seems to be on part of their website:

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/a[....]t_sony_ericsson_xperia_x1.html



Posted by mobman
obviously i might be wrong. in fact i'd be supprised if all the uk operators didn't end up taking it sooner or later. but i think o2 and voda are the only ones to officially confirm...
plus, alot can happen in the 4months since that news story was written.

[ This Message was edited by: mobman on 2008-10-14 16:20 ]

Posted by Nitro Fan

On 2008-10-14 15:37:51, Indrawan wrote:
iam still confused...

tracy and matt said that x1 128MB RAM of 384MB RAM is for 3D chip...how did they know about that ? i think x1 RAM is DDr SDRAM not VRAM...i means if x1 ram is 384MB DDR SDRAM so it doesnt mean it is VRAM...can you explain it ?


I was looking at the X1 blog this morning to see if have stepped up to the plate and come clean on the RAM situation and they STILL haven't!

Posted by ares

On 2008-10-14 02:25:16, NimmyxHuynh wrote:

On 2008-10-14 00:32:10, joel80 wrote:

On 2008-10-13 20:23:24, waibun_lee wrote:
To the X1 owners can you use the photo LED as a torch?

Cheers



Yes.. if u use it from the camera app. when switched on its on for a good while. No need of holding down a button like on P1i.




Oh? so there's no option like on the K750i where you can just use the light as a flashlight?
Bummers but it's still groovy though.
Just two more weeks!!! *twitches eyes*



err...you don´t need to hold any button at all on the P1...just install the torch app from the G900, and its done...no need to use the camera app at all

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[ This Message was edited by: ares on 2008-10-14 18:33 ]

Posted by tranced

On 2008-10-14 19:32:53, ares wrote:
err...you don´t need to hold any button at all on the P1...just install the torch app from the G900, and its done...no need to use the camera app at all

ditto



though it is in my p990

Posted by joel80

On 2008-10-14 19:32:53, ares wrote:
err...you don´t need to hold any button at all on the P1...just install the torch app from the G900, and its done...no need to use the camera app at all



My girlfriend got my P1 now.. where can I find the torch-app? Did a google-search but got to many hits. Anyone have a link? Or more info on to what to look for.



Posted by mobman

On 2008-10-14 17:36:21, Nitro Fan wrote:

On 2008-10-14 15:37:51, Indrawan wrote:
iam still confused...

tracy and matt said that x1 128MB RAM of 384MB RAM is for 3D chip...how did they know about that ? i think x1 RAM is DDr SDRAM not VRAM...i means if x1 ram is 384MB DDR SDRAM so it doesnt mean it is VRAM...can you explain it ?


I was looking at the X1 blog this morning to see if have stepped up to the plate and come clean on the RAM situation and they STILL haven't!



An interesting twist in the story...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436214

Posted by joel80
Another "Need to have"...

I want to be able to use my phone as a modem.. either via bluetooth or, if possible via Wifi..

That is, charing the 3g-connection with my laptop (macbook pro, and in second hand a PC with win XP pro. But there I guess I can use whatever software came with the phone?).

Suggestions?





Posted by the_mont

On 2008-10-14 20:03:48, mobman wrote:

On 2008-10-14 17:36:21, Nitro Fan wrote:

On 2008-10-14 15:37:51, Indrawan wrote:
iam still confused...

tracy and matt said that x1 128MB RAM of 384MB RAM is for 3D chip...how did they know about that ? i think x1 RAM is DDr SDRAM not VRAM...i means if x1 ram is 384MB DDR SDRAM so it doesnt mean it is VRAM...can you explain it ?


I was looking at the X1 blog this morning to see if have stepped up to the plate and come clean on the RAM situation and they STILL haven't!



An interesting twist in the story...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436214


Hi all,

Been awhile since I've been on here, so hi again all. In fact been a while since SE have come up with something great... til now . This is my next phone, and I'll already have my upgrade ordered with Vodafone (virtually free for my tariff ) out for those who don't know around 25th on Vodafone.

Right now to explain how the memory works....
Quote from review below: "The gadget is equipped with a 256 Mb of RAM and 512 Mb of Rom, of which about 400 Mb is available to the user."

If you want it in full read this X1 review:
http://www.smape.com/en/revie[....]y_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1-prev.html

Chris

Posted by masseur
@joel80, you can do it as standard using bluetooth or cable connection or (and I prefer this) you can buy wm wifi router as that does a good job.

I've connected my iphone and pc through wifi to my WM 3g connection with great results and will continue to do so on the X1

Posted by PeterKay
Smapes Opinion of the X1:

Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 is a very specific, yet an efficient PDA. It would make a great choice for those looking for a WM PDA sporting just as much computing power and versatility as fashionable looks, equipped with a QWERTY keyboard (yet not the handiest around). All in all, the product appears to be a balanced solution, on of the best in its class. Final conclusions will be drawn upon testing a next-to-final sample later in autumn. The currently available sample makes a great Christmas gift provided that SE fixes the spotted weaknesses on time, without pushing the release date into the next year.

+ Stylish design, original form factor
+ High quality of materials and assembly
+ Large high-definition screen
+ Long battery life
+ 3.5 mm audio jack
+ XPERIA panels firmware launcher
+ Powerful CPU, 256 Mb of RAM
+ Wi-Fi and GPS, as well as an FM tuner
- High price
- Challengeable keyboard ergonomics
- Non-canon screen resolution
- No TV-out
- No hardware 3D acceleration



Posted by JD4341

On 2008-10-14 17:18:00, mobman wrote:
obviously i might be wrong. in fact i'd be supprised if all the uk operators didn't end up taking it sooner or later. but i think o2 and voda are the only ones to officially confirm...

plus, alot can happen in the 4months since that news story was written.

[ This Message was edited by: mobman on 2008-10-14 16:20 ]


I went into an Orange shop a few days ago and was told that Orange will be doing the X1.

Posted by bider
Strange... I thought that X1 has hardware 3d acceleration.

Posted by Osmano

On 2008-10-14 20:25:38, the_mont wrote:

On 2008-10-14 20:03:48, mobman wrote:

On 2008-10-14 17:36:21, Nitro Fan wrote:

On 2008-10-14 15:37:51, Indrawan wrote:
iam still confused...

tracy and matt said that x1 128MB RAM of 384MB RAM is for 3D chip...how did they know about that ? i think x1 RAM is DDr SDRAM not VRAM...i means if x1 ram is 384MB DDR SDRAM so it doesnt mean it is VRAM...can you explain it ?


I was looking at the X1 blog this morning to see if have stepped up to the plate and come clean on the RAM situation and they STILL haven't!



An interesting twist in the story...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436214


Hi all,

Been awhile since I've been on here, so hi again all. In fact been a while since SE have come up with something great... til now . This is my next phone, and I'll already have my upgrade ordered with Vodafone (virtually free for my tariff ) out for those who don't know around 25th on Vodafone.

Right now to explain how the memory works....
Quote from review below: "The gadget is equipped with a 256 Mb of RAM and 512 Mb of Rom, of which about 400 Mb is available to the user."

If you want it in full read this X1 review:
http://www.smape.com/en/revie[....]y_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1-prev.html

Chris


This is an old test. Maybe a month ago.

Posted by Jah
Xperia X1 on Voda and O2 and Orange: http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/[....]csson_X1_Xperia_available.html

Posted by MyP910

On 2008-10-14 21:16:37, bider wrote:
Strange... I thought that X1 has hardware 3d acceleration.



That is an old article. The writer even didn't know the release date at that time.

Posted by bider

On 2008-10-14 22:37:18, MyP910 wrote:

On 2008-10-14 21:16:37, bider wrote:
Strange... I thought that X1 has hardware 3d acceleration.



That is an old article. The writer even didn't know the release date at that time.


Yes I know. It's been posted here more than 10 times, but I haven't seen this info about acceleration before.

Posted by djin

On 2008-10-14 00:36:33, l337h1um wrote:

On 2008-10-13 10:53:22, djin wrote:
hey killer master, get bose IE3(inner ear) headphones, they got high bass, so you wont miss out mega bass.
I did that for my n96, since i was missing mega bass too.



Bose. Meh. Killer Master, what you want is some of these. Or perhaps these. You've never heard of them before? Just because you've never heard of them it doesn't mean that Sony, or even Bose, are better. You have probably never heard of them before because they are usually used by professional musicians. But that doesn't mean that people like us can't have the absolute best sound there is.

Oh, and ignore the Logitech logo. It means nothing. Logitech bought them recently, but Logitech won't be influencing the quality of UE's products at all (unless they are REALLY dumb).


I would personally go with shure, UE are good and coslty as well. Bose is in an ok range with higher bass(in that range), so bass lovers usually like bose sound, and he missed mega bass, and yeah elite,
You should as well know that sony and UE cannot be compared as their target and price are totally different.


Sorry guys for going OT.

Posted by pmcg
On 2008-10-14 17:36:21, Nitro Fan wrote:I was looking at the X1 blog this morning to see if have stepped up to the plate and come clean on the RAM situation and they STILL haven't!


They are getting ready for a big launch of the product on 30 September as per their announcement.

Maybe they are busy building a time machine too.

Posted by WhyBe
128MB for CPU/3D doesn't make any technical sense whatsoever.

Posted by tERRiON

Maybe they are busy building a time machine too.

LOL

I hope so, and I hope I can join them because I can't wait to get my hands on the X1, eventhough I'm not a Windows-fanboy...

But what about that 128MB graphics memory!? Why would a phone use this amount of memory just for graphics?
My computer is having a 64MB 3D-graphicscard. Okay, according to today's standards it isn't something you will win the newest games with, but it's good enough to play i.e. Max Payn, Far Cry or Battlefield with an acceptable quality at 1024x768/24bit. Why would somebody put 128MB in a device with 'only' 800x480/16bit!?

In my opinion it doesn't make any sense, only if it is a device made to be played with like a PSP.

Posted by shamuloco



But what about that 128MB graphics memory!? Why would a phone use this amount of memory just for graphics?

In my opinion it doesn't make any sense, only if it is a device made to be played with like a PSP.



Maybe they have in minda releasing some "excelent" games for this X1... you never know ...

That could be an excelent reason and a great excuse ...

Posted by max_wedge
the 128MB RAM argument is just pure speculation by those who don't really understand the hardware architecture.

Either X1 has 384MB or 256MB as the total RAM pool, it certainly doesn't have any main RAM dedicated to video. It may or may not have dedicated vram but if it does it will be in a different pool to that of RAM.

Posted by netnerd
have any1 open up their X1 to find the 128mb ram chip for GPU?
or it just he said, she said?

Posted by l337h1um

On 2008-10-15 08:04:23, netnerd wrote:
just he said, she said?


Posted by max_wedge

On 2008-10-15 08:04:23, netnerd wrote:
have any1 open up their X1 to find the 128mb ram chip for GPU?
or it just he said, she said?

the thread at xda developers a guy had opened it up and can find only one chip.

Actually on that thread quite a few posters are saying that the X1 is very fast in normal operation (ie: not using panels) and that most of the panels aren't too bad with only one or two being real slow.

I'm liking the X1 more and more, I can defo see this being my nextr WM device.

Posted by mode

On 2008-10-15 08:20:00, max_wedge wrote:

On 2008-10-15 08:04:23, netnerd wrote:
have any1 open up their X1 to find the 128mb ram chip for GPU?
or it just he said, she said?

the thread at xda developers a guy had opened it up and can find only one chip.

Actually on that thread quite a few posters are saying that the X1 is very fast in normal operation (ie: not using panels) and that most of the panels aren't too bad with only one or two being real slow.

I'm liking the X1 more and more, I can defo see this being my nextr WM device.



Which leaves another question, when did the dissection take place?

Posted by Qramohn
Anyone know how to get rid of the panels completely? Uninstall is enough?
The panels sucks compared to running Xperia with "spb mobile shell" and "spb pocket plus". And the X-panel button could be mapped for better use..

It's a remarkable difference in response time when not running panels.

Gotta love the phone and all it features, but the panels are poorly implemented and doing more harm than use for users and SE.

Posted by WhyBe
Why get an X1 then?

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-10-15 08:31 ]

Posted by Qramohn

On 2008-10-15 09:19:43, WhyBe wrote:
Why get an X1 then?



Well. You don't know before you try and find out yourself, or?
Rest of the phone is just amazing.

Posted by max_wedge
because of the design, form factor (the curved slide is pretty cool and useful), good specs (okay okay so it doesn't have VGA video, who freakin' cares.... ), 3.5mm jack (many WM have usb mini or 2.5mm), fast processor.

Apparently the orientation change is fast (most WM in my experience are a it laggy at this), and running shells faster than touch Flo I've also heard.

Even the design alone is enough given that the phone is generally on par (or better) with other WM phones spec-wise. If you like the design of the handset (looks and ergonomics) then why not the X1?

Posted by Maggah

On 2008-10-15 09:19:43, WhyBe wrote:
Why get an X1 then?

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-10-15 08:31 ]


Cause it's the best looking, smallest, and fastest WM6.1 device with a keyboard.


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