Posted by tranced
man, cant stop seeing this thread and look what page it is in.
Posted by laurenke01
On 2008-02-11 18:55:23, Nanu wrote:
He is referring to the imaging phone not the X1, and aGPS is assistedGPS if there is no GPS built in what exactly is it assisting???
Precisely my thinking. You can't have aGPS without having GPS of some kind.
It's kind like of like HSUPA. If you have that, the assumption is that you also have HSDPA.
Posted by thefalken
Nice'n'all, and I'd buy it rather than the P5 I'm planning, except it runs Windows.
Posted by tonyitalian
wowww! I was on vocation for 3 days and when I return SE has done a lot of good things! cant wait for more on the X1 - MY NEXT BUY! yayyyy!
Posted by tonif430
On 2008-02-11 18:46:49, henkeee wrote:
I think alot of people tend to see Windows Mobile as a operative system primarily for business purposes, which is why I'm currently _really_ interested in seeing their strategy with the X1's marketing in relation to the launch of the "P5i"-handset.
Imo:
X series to compete against all WM devices
P series to compete against Iphone and Nokia N95 or Prada's stuff...
I crazily wait for new P5i!!!!!!
Posted by Coxy
On 2008-02-11 18:46:49, henkeee wrote:
I have problems seeing alot of "serious" users using the X1, I think they'll find this phone to have too much of a bling-bling character.
Don't forget the HTC "Touch" devices. They are Windows Mobile but include "iPhone" style features.
I think major functionality (Windows Mobile) coupled with great multimedia skills (Xperia) will result in an awesome device.
I really like this sort of package in my Touch Dual.
Posted by foreign nois
Guys, the GPS is listed under the "connections" tab on the spec sheet. In combination with the fact that the GPS headset is listed under compatible accessories, I would assume this means there is no build in GPS?
Posted by famous12
On 2008-02-11 19:25:22, tonif430 wrote:
On 2008-02-11 18:46:49, henkeee wrote:
I think alot of people tend to see Windows Mobile as a operative system primarily for business purposes, which is why I'm currently _really_ interested in seeing their strategy with the X1's marketing in relation to the launch of the "P5i"-handset.
Imo:
X series to compete against all WM devices
P series to compete against Iphone and Nokia N95 or Prada's stuff...
I crazily wait for new P5i!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZJlrO37zXs
X-series doesnt necessarily mean WM
Posted by hgautam
Phone and Screen Size Comparison:
X1,P990 and P1
Left Side:
Posted by MWEB
On 2008-02-11 19:33:55, Coxy wrote:
On 2008-02-11 18:46:49, henkeee wrote:
I have problems seeing alot of "serious" users using the X1, I think they'll find this phone to have too much of a bling-bling character.
Don't forget the HTC "Touch" devices. They are Windows Mobile but include "iPhone" style features.
I think major functionality (Windows Mobile) coupled with great multimedia skills (Xperia) will result in an awesome device.
I really like this sort of package in my Touch Dual.
Quite right Coxy, this is a great device for sure, but TBH it is a HTC device with an SE badge stuck on the front
Posted by burmistrz
On 2008-02-11 14:30:38, XPHCTOC wrote:
There are some differences between the device shown in this thread and the "official" pictures
instead of blue rectangle we can see on X1 mini website "fn"
instead of smiley there is a "ctrl" button
last instead of windows button there is an "esc"...
*-)
It´s one more button, between "caps" and "z". Looks like "@"
Posted by laurenke01
I like the keyboard in the promo shots better. Looks more professional.
Posted by Lemmin
On 2008-02-11 19:14:53, laurenke01 wrote:
On 2008-02-11 18:55:23, Nanu wrote:
He is referring to the imaging phone not the X1, and aGPS is assistedGPS if there is no GPS built in what exactly is it assisting???
Precisely my thinking. You can't have aGPS without having GPS of some kind.
It's kind like of like HSUPA. If you have that, the assumption is that you also have HSDPA.
I'm thinking... the phone handset can assist a seperate GPS receiver by giving it cell-based positioning information from an aGPS server, thus reducing computation, and speeding up time-to-fix. I think it will also help in partial-signal situations.
I'd love to believe that the X1 has built in hardware GPS, but I find it too good to be true, especially given the compact size of the unit, the other functions they've squeezed in, and the fact they have been very quiet about GPS.
Until I hear from someone who has used the phone that it has a built in GPS, and that they've seen it running, then I'm going to assume it requires an external GPS receiver
LEM
Posted by abinge05
Beats the N96, LG's new QWERTY, and Samgung's G810 in terms of consumer appeal. Very exciting week for SE, and there's still more to come!
Posted by crossmatched
there is still indeed a second wave of announcements
it is a week of BIG ideas for
Posted by MWEB
On 2008-02-11 20:06:05, abinge05 wrote:
Beats the N96, LG's new QWERTY, and Samgung's G810 in terms of consumer appeal. Very exciting week for SE, and there's still more to come!
Does it?, in which way exactly.
Posted by laurenke01
On 2008-02-11 20:03:33, Lemmin wrote:
Until I hear from someone who has used the phone that it has a built in GPS, and that they've seen it running, then I'm going to assume it requires an external GPS receiver
Indeed, we shall see.
However, ever since the first N95 FW update, it has been largely advertised as "only" having aGPS.
Another point is that the W760's specs page on SE.com doesn't even mention GPS. So I think it's too early to draw conclusions of any kind given it's just syntax at this point.
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Posted by jack00
so this is what engadget says about the X1, after a short hands on
When we saw the XPERIA X1 announced yesterday we pretty much flipped our collective geeky lids, this handset is the stuff mobile dreams are made of. There is nothing to gripe about here and while our play date was short-lived -- and very supervised -- we did get a chance to peek at the rather unfinished UI, fit and finish, and did we mention the frickin' screen on this phone? Wah! It's like paper. This handset just can't come soon enough -- for those of you not listening earlier, that'll be late Q2 -- but until then you'll just have to live with pics.
Posted by dr.W
On 2008-02-11 19:53:58, mweb6161 wrote:
On 2008-02-11 19:33:55, Coxy wrote:
On 2008-02-11 18:46:49, henkeee wrote:
I have problems seeing alot of "serious" users using the X1, I think they'll find this phone to have too much of a bling-bling character.
Don't forget the HTC "Touch" devices. They are Windows Mobile but include "iPhone" style features.
I think major functionality (Windows Mobile) coupled with great multimedia skills (Xperia) will result in an awesome device.
I really like this sort of package in my Touch Dual.
Quite right Coxy, this is a great device for sure, but TBH it is a HTC device with an SE badge stuck on the front
I'm not sure what you mean by that. HTC made Treos for Palm and many other phones for various companies before selling there own branded phones-did anyone ever call a Treo an HTC device? This is not a TyTNII rebranded by SE with some new software on it. The X1 is an entirely new phone designed by SE and manufactured for them by HTC (perhaps). Many companies, including Apple and Dell, use contractors to manufacture their products based on their own specifications. Does that mean that your PowerBook is actually a Quanta? No, of course not, so why would you make such a blatantly untrue statement here?
If SE chooses to let HTC use their own production criteria and tolerances when manufacturing the X1 then that is their own fault and they will have to live with the consequences. However, if they treat HTC like the contract manufacturer they are, then they will impose their own standards and tolerances on this phone which HTC must match. Don't forget, HTC makes their phones the way they do not because they are incapable of making them better but because that is the decision they made to balance cost and profits. If someone else is paying them to make the phones then they are obligated to meet those standards.
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Posted by MWEB
The HW is all HTC, that's a plus in my book, smart move by SE to get HTC to do all the hard work and allow themselves to take all the plaudits.
Come on, an SE with WM on board, hardly takes hercule poirot to suss out it's origins!!
Posted by abinge05
On 2008-02-11 20:12:08, mweb6161 wrote:
On 2008-02-11 20:06:05, abinge05 wrote:
Beats the N96, LG's new QWERTY, and Samgung's G810 in terms of consumer appeal. Very exciting week for SE, and there's still more to come!
Does it?, in which way exactly.
Posted by sosojerk
I am looking at this X1 more and ...hmmm.. don't know what to say.
I mean the nice animation that SE was showing is fine but I am afraid that nehind that, 1 or 2 menus deeper the WM6 user interface is there....
And oh boy....WM6 UI sucks so much these days.
I have a Fujitsu Siemens Loox N560 with a VGA display which is a beauty...for 2006...but now it is 2008 and I am afraid about that behind the nice animations the shitty WM6 UI will be seen.
I've seen already the "Start" button in the pictures taken by esato which is bad bad. No one should use that WM6 UI anymore...it is simply obsolete.
Look at HTC...they built the startup screen on top of WM6 one...because the WM6 is simply ugly
Posted by hgautam
What are the small, wide, dark spaces on both sided of the phone??? Stereo Speaker may be???
PK, can you please answer???
Posted by willo
by the look of these pics, is there no fastport?
Posted by jalf
On 2008-02-11 20:55:00, willo wrote:
by the look of these pics, is there no fastport?
mini usb
Posted by laurenke01
As far as I know, there have been no shots of the bottom....
Posted by jack00
as engadget writes, in the last 6 months 14millione WMphones have been sold - so the cake is large enought to be shared
Posted by hgautam
Yes there are pics of the phone from bottom... only a place use a wrist strap...
[ This Message was edited by: hgautam on 2008-02-11 20:07 ]
Posted by DragonEye
On 2008-02-11 20:29:35, mweb6161 wrote:
The HW is all HTC, that's a plus in my book, smart move by SE to get HTC to do all the hard work and allow themselves to take all the plaudits.
Come on, an SE with WM on board, hardly takes hercule poirot to suss out it's origins!!
except if it's using the same terrible camera from the tytn 2 or kaiser lol
Posted by MWEB
HaHa trust you to look at the black side, Monk my friend
Posted by my ninja
PK will we see a 3" WVGA screen on Pari5 as well?
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2008-02-11 20:17 ]
Posted by xenia
Nope. Eldar said this is NOT HTC device. It was disigned by SE from first to last details.
HTC is only produced this phone on its factory. SFMBE
Posted by bavlondon2
Anyone know what the hardware specs are on this? OMAP?
Posted by PeterKay
Nice Video here showing a few glimpses on the X1.
Posted by bavlondon2
PK Do you know what processor this is based on? Is is the quallcomm snapdragon ?
Posted by hgautam
From SE developers site:
Memory:
RAM Memory: 128MB
Flash Memory: 512MB
Windows Mobile Technology:
Windows Mobile® 6
Java Technology:
Java™ Platform Micro Edition,
CLDC 1.1 (JSR 139)
Java MIDP 2.0 (JSR 118)
PDA Optional Packages (JSR 75)
Wireless Messaging API (JSR 120)
Mobile Media API (JSR 135)
Browser:
WAP 1.2.1, 2.0
HTML 4.01, XHTML1.1
XML
Internet Explorer® Mobile
Messaging:
SMS, MMS
POP3, IMAP, SMTP and MIME
Push e-mail (Direct Push)
Microsoft Outlook Mobile
Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync®
Digital Rights Mgmt.:
OMA DRM v1.0 and WMDRM 10
Multimedia Support:
Audio: MP3, AAC, AAC+, EACC+, WMA v9, WB-AMR, MIDI
Video: MPEG4, H263, H264, WMV
Image: BMP, GIF, JPEG, PNG
Animations: GIF
Streaming: RTSP according to 3GPP™
Local Connectivity:
Bluetooth™ 2.0 EDR
USB 2.0
miniUSB
WiFi (802.11b/g)
A-GPS
PC software
Extra features:
3.2 Megapixel camera, x3 digital zoom, autofocus
XPERIA panel user experience
QWERTY keyboard, 4-way key, optical joystick
Microsoft Office Mobile (Word, Excel, Powerpoint)
Microsoft Media™ Player Mobile
Windows Live™
WiFi connectivity
A-GPS
Streaming audio/video
Video telephony
Handwriting recognition
RSS feed support
FM radio with RDS
Flight mode
http://developer.sonyericsson[....]ducts/phonegallery/x1/p_x1.jsp
Posted by tranced
i'll be missing the opera browser
Posted by bavlondon2
We knew all those specs before, its nothing new.
Does no one at all know what processor this thing is running on?
Posted by MYB87
eeh 128mb ram is that enough :/
Posted by bavlondon2
Yeah it should be but I want to know the processor. I remember people saying its running on some quallcomm spandragon but no one seems to have a clue now.
Posted by fatreg
what's this i hear about it being made by HTC!?
although, that does mean it shouldn't have any bugs at roll out, if HTC have coded it...
hehe
Posted by bavlondon2
Look at this tool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOW_pyzcH9g
Posted by Turboguard
I seriously don't understand why all the new SE never feels up to date.
It's so stupid. Can't they just make a good phone. Let's say X1 for example.
The design, it's so ugly, and why add a bunch of shit that is just useless like those buttons on the front. Why not have them in the screen, as thouch. And the keyboard, yeah, it's handy but it could have been optimized for it's size.
The outlay is awfull. The OS is ugly.
It feels like something SE could have made around the the time they released the k800.
I'm seriously dissapointed and I hope they really have some mayor news that will blow this world with the P5.
Posted by anonymuser
On 2008-02-11 18:36:01, Lemmin wrote:
Um. The X1 is clearly a consumer device, not a business one. All the X1 information is about how it is a "premium multimedia device" and all about "the experience". Its clearly being aimed at the iPhone, not as a business phone. Theres little mention of business features for the X1.
No, i think you misunderstand. The X1 is a Windows Mobile Professional device. That means, by default, that it's perfectly set up for business & enterprise use - it has Exchange support, it has Mobile Office, it has every productivity feature you can dream of. It also has a good size qwerty keyboard to drive it all, and every kind of connectivity on board, including Activesync, through a no-nonsense mini USB port rather than a propietary connector. Rather than being an Iphone killer, it's very firmly in the HTC Tytn/Toshiba Portege class of pro device. How do they differentiate it from the established competition? By extolling its multimedia credentials, sony style etc. The business side sells itself anyway
The serious business user looking to SE for a phone will buy the X1. It's a no-brainer - it's got the style, quality and individuality of an SE but with total compatibility with all their office systems and everything they might want or need to run on it. In truth, the P series has never really had that. UIQ2 got close, but UIQ3 lost them too ruch traction - it's a little late to be pushing it as a serious enterprise platform now.
Where does that leave the P5? As an entertainment powerhouse with 16m colour screen, longer battery life, 5mp cam, a groovier more consumer-friendly UI, etc etc. That's my take on it anyway.
Incidentally, aGPS just means the gps reciever is assisted by downloaded data on satellite positions, enabling it to get a faster lock on. The Tytn II (based on a similar Qualcomm integrated chip) is the same - a Quick GPS applet periodically downloads satellite data. The GPS works without it, but takes longer to find enough sat signals.
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t28s -> t39m -> t68i -> P800 -> P910i -> M600i -> HTC Kaiser (Tytn II)
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Posted by sdsviet
On 2008-02-11 22:30:44, bavlondon2 wrote:
Look at this tool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOW_pyzcH9g
what kind of product manager is this. he doesnt even know squat about the product.
[ This Message was edited by: sdsviet on 2008-02-11 21:56 ]
Posted by mobman
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i seriously couldn't disagree more with any of what you just said!
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-02-11 22:46:21, Turboguard wrote:
I seriously don't understand why all the new SE never feels up to date.
It's so stupid. Can't they just make a good phone. Let's say X1 for example.
The design, it's so ugly, and why add a bunch of shit that is just useless like those buttons on the front. Why not have them in the screen, as thouch. And the keyboard, yeah, it's handy but it could have been optimized for it's size.
The outlay is awfull. The OS is ugly.
It feels like something SE could have made around the the time they released the k800.
I'm seriously dissapointed and I hope they really have some mayor news that will blow this world with the P5.
Ok, I thought and thought and what I made up was this question:
Are you human?
Posted by not_me
On 2008-02-11 22:54:17, sdsviet wrote:
what kind of product manager is this. he doesnt even know squat about the product.
[ This Message was edited by: sdsviet on 2008-02-11 21:56 ]
well, maybe he works for se and they just got it from HTC, a few days before the announcement and he hadn't any time for learning about it's features and functions !
I didn't watch the whole video, but I read somewhere they don't show more of the ui than those 9 screens panel, probably there software isn't ready yet, and that's all which is working right now !
Posted by XPHCTOC
seen on myphone.gr lol
X1 aka the "untouchable": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-JaxMutdps
hahaha
[ This Message was edited by: XPHCTOC on 2008-02-11 22:13 ]
Posted by bavlondon2
OK so I think ive found some info on the procesor.
Its Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM7200a - 520Mhz