Posted by tranced
yep
Posted by nk126
On 2008-02-11 01:09:35, alrodlop35 wrote:
Is this the first phone ever to support the 1700 HSPDA band?
No
http://209.85.173.104/search?[....]nk&cd=5&gl=us&client=firefox-a
Posted by tranced
i guess he was asking from
. though he never mentioned from what brand.
Posted by abinge05
"It's all powered by a 520-MHz ARM11 processor running Windows Mobile 6. In short, this thing screams."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2258979,00.asp
Posted by amnesia
this is indeed a very beautiful phone, if the build quality is what SE used to give us then that'll give it great points, however there are things that concern me.
Why isn't it 5mp (seems windows mobile devices always have low mp counts).
Why is 64k.... I can't wrap my head around this.
And how fast is it going to be. Is it going to just be another 'htc shell'?
I remember giving wm a million chances but kept ending up with devices that I had to reset 5 times a day.
Posted by >500
@amnesia
for some odd reason, WM doesnt support over 65k colours
Hmm, well, i had a couple imate jasjams, with wm 5, they were quite stable!
Though i am yet to try WM6!
Posted by technical-expert
Does windows mobile have more applications than uiq
Posted by BobaFett
yes, there are tons of apps for windows mobiles... far more then uiq. maybe noki symbian has got more then wm or almost the same quantity
Posted by tranced
i would say winmo got more apps, followed by uiq.
Posted by alrodlop35
This thing better be packin' at least a 1500 mAh battery with that kind of screen and processor.
Posted by jcwhite_uk
On 2008-02-11 01:10:55, my ninja wrote:
ne is a bit of a disappointment ... ;( but, ill wait on the P5 to see what SE has in store. that and the phone is nice hideous, someone was huffing glue watching that nokia prism and decided to shit on the keypad. screens nice if WM6 didnt cut it down.
bring on somthing original.
has some nice radios in it though. still missing GPS.
It has GPS (asisted GPS actually to help it get a signal quicker).
Posted by rambo47
Let's hope they get the firmware right, straight out of the gate. If we get an unstable device with this much promise and beauty, that will really piss in my cheerios.
Posted by tonchy
On 2008-02-11 01:30:25, >500 wrote:
@amnesia
for some odd reason, WM doesnt support over 65k colours
Hmm, well, i had a couple imate jasjams, with wm 5, they were quite stable!
Though i am yet to try WM6!
Stop blaming windows mobile for the shortage in hardware specs our dear x1 has. windows mobile is capable of displaying more than 65k colours. it is probably too hardware demanding for the x1 to do it.
Posted by BobaFett
nobody is blaming here anything, more sharing opinions... thats sg different...
Posted by sudsnz
Pnext with 5mp camera......in a couple of days or maybe tomorrow.
Posted by tonchy
On 2008-02-11 02:55:56, BobaFett wrote:
nobody is blaming here anything, more sharing opinions... thats sg different...
sorry but stating "Windows Mobile does not support more than 65k colors" and being disapointed by it. is a form of blaming, don't you think?
i am really looking forward to the rest of the announcements
Posted by kennieteo
I love this phone! I love SE! Finally, SE has something different from Nokia and the rest. I will get Xperia once it's out! kiss kiss kiss..SE Hurray!
Posted by tonchy
On 2008-02-11 03:15:54, kennieteo wrote:
I love this phone! I love SE! Finally, SE has something different from Nokia and the rest. I will get Xperia once it's out! kiss kiss kiss..SE Hurray!
still at least 6 months to wait according to peterkay
Posted by borg_
Nice job
Great phone
Posted by nk126
On 2008-02-11 03:18:22, tonchy wrote:
On 2008-02-11 03:15:54, kennieteo wrote:
I love this phone! I love SE! Finally, SE has something different from Nokia and the rest. I will get Xperia once it's out! kiss kiss kiss..SE Hurray!
still at least 6 months to wait according to peterkay
not according to peterkay - according to SE. all of their materials say X1 ships second half of 2008. sigh.
Posted by Supa_Fly
Man some ppl are never happy. I couldn't even read post page 4 when someone complained that it doesn't have WiMax. WiMax in a cellular phone platform is feasible but if you think WiFi google electro Juice ... just wait until you have WiMax in the mix. Wi-Max is FAR FAR away from being ubiquitous in the USA let alone the rest of the world. Sprint USA is still trialling in the market of Chicago with Motorola; still months away from full roll out. However, finding WiFi is easy as pie. You can STILL find more open-access WiFi HotSpots than WiMax anywhere in the world, and it seems that most WiMax implementations across the world are STILL not fulfilling their original promise: To enable a Highspeed wireless LAN connection over narrow field width, 30miles away from the base station.
Great Job SE on this product.
PS is anyone else bothered that someone from the Windows Mobile fan camp just begun posting about hwo HTC is making this for SE ... just to steal SE's glory?! IF HTC is I still say this is an SE product because their design an innovation went into this. It screams SE heart & soul.
Posted by tonchy
On 2008-02-11 03:32:45, nk126 wrote:
On 2008-02-11 03:18:22, tonchy wrote:
On 2008-02-11 03:15:54, kennieteo wrote:
I love this phone! I love SE! Finally, SE has something different from Nokia and the rest. I will get Xperia once it's out! kiss kiss kiss..SE Hurray!
still at least 6 months to wait according to peterkay
not according to peterkay - according to SE. all of their materials say X1 ships second half of 2008. sigh.
says second half 2008 and that starts in 4.7 months, peterkay mentioned a few posts ago we'll have to wait at least 6 months,
from what i have seen from
in the past i am guessing it will hit the shelves at the beginning fo Q4. anyone else wants to wildly guess?
Posted by BobaFett
guess u are right, se usually delays when it comes to release a fone
Posted by abinge05
PK has stated before that most of what he says this far in advance is an estimate. However, that seems like a very good estimate when comparing the time spans from announcements to releases for high profile devices such as this. Even the iPhone had a six month wait. It's normal.
Posted by tonchy
On 2008-02-11 03:57:27, abinge05 wrote:
PK has stated before that most of what he says this far in advance is an estimate. However, that seems like a very good estimate when comparing the time spans from announcements to releases for high profile devices such as this. Even the iPhone had a six month wait. It's normal.
i wonder what the time span will be for the n96 i read somewhere it will pack 16gb.
hurry up
!!!!!
Posted by Miss UK
Great another Samsung F700 look-alike lol
Posted by drgopoos
On 2008-02-11 01:32:51, itouch wrote:
Does windows mobile have more applications than uiq
tons more than symbian
the best things about windows mobile 6 over symbian are
1. OS is more open and hence more options at customisation
2. brilliant third party applications. For eg: see http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/
They have the best application list, but this is just a miniscule of what is available
3. PC sync is amazing ( via usb. Bluetooth still buggy)
issues i have seen
1. stability wise , wm6 still lags a long way behind symbian and even the uiq3 is better
2. requires faster processor and hence more battery usage
3. interface is not great but can me molded
4. OS is much slower than symbian
MOST OF THE ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED IN WM6.1 and an announcement in this regard is expected in this congress
the leaked images of wm6.1 looks amazing
Posted by BobaFett
i didnt recognized, that wm os is slower then symbian os... also very satisfied withh battery standby time ( htc trinity compared with e60 for example or e61i or n95 )
Posted by abinge05
This may spark a debate...
http://www.engadget.com/2008/[....]ia-x1-is-so-good-htc-makes-it/
Posted by mode
I'm quite impressed with this one, 3" screen, have always loved QWERTY sliders, and I do understand the implementation of WM6 instead of UIQ4, probably to balance out new hardware with a tested OS. Connectivity is great with microSD, mini usb and 3.5mm jack that's been here for a while already though, just something SE finally picked up. Quite curious how the panels work, coz it might just make all the difference and put SE up there again in innovation. Feedback on processor and RAM seems promising. But I guess G900 really surprised me, a full touchscreen candybar, I'm sure no one saw that coming and if it's stable and affordable enough, it'll be a sure hit without a doubt. All that being said, I'm just happy the P-series is here to stay
Posted by abinge05
I'm not sure if anyone knows that the 3.5mm jack is official yet. If everyone believes this based on the picture of the hole at the end of the phone, that may be the port for the stylus. I am getting my hopes up for 3.5mm, but I have a feeling that is what the slot is for. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Posted by my ninja
abinge, WoW!!!
i mean that was announced a few months ago that they would do that, but man im happy about that this phone has NO SE design language on it at all, its seems to me that i was justified in thinking it was ugly, now its stands to reason that it was HTC ... and WM6 hmmm.
bring on the P5 ... watch that announcement be in december, knowing esatos luck with predicting announcements HAHAHAHA, amirght!?
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2008-02-10 21:34:56, macwilmore wrote:
too solid & boxy looking. no iphone like design inspiration at work here. p990i was my last ever SE phone, still getting over that experience.
IF you want an iPhone then just buy that crap! You want an iPhone with SE branding; keep dreaming. But if you must have it, then buy and iPhone and put a BIG SE sticker over Apple's iPhone.
And unlike many OTHER Disbelievers; this following message is to Peter Kay.
Peter Kay; I doubted you! And I was wrong and you were VERY spot on with accurate information. Hoping that you understand with such VAGUE posts and keeping us to believe you had inside information - its VERY hard to believe you in that regard since you never mentioned that you were bounded by NDA disclosure. Furthermore; I then began to believe that it WAS possible you had inside information because on an older thread I had the VERY last post to the effect saying "All SE needs to do is check the blgos and fan sites of informational posts leaking details and then check the location of said posters and BOOM they can pretty much deduce the source of their leak. At that time you barely posted ANY info in such an abrupt manner. So my apologies for calling you out.
Now ppl is this model OS Agnostic? I recall reading something to this affect over the web but cannot recall a link to it.
Posted by shyam335
On 2008-02-11 04:47:05, abinge05 wrote:
This may spark a debate...
http://www.engadget.com/2008/[....]ia-x1-is-so-good-htc-makes-it/
I was wondering why no one bought that one up.
Posted by abinge05
I guess SE has a pretty bad reputation here in the US, wondering how they could make such a good device.
Posted by tonchy
@ prom1
what do you mean by OS Agnostic?
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2008-02-11 05:19:24, tonchy wrote:
@ prom1
what do you mean by OS Agnostic?
I mean the hardware can run just about ANY OS ....
On 2008-02-10 22:37:30, razec wrote:
On 2008-02-10 22:34:21, milan91 wrote:
And what is processor?? And free RAM??
X1 looks similar to the snapdragon prototype shown on engadget months ago. i suspect this phone has 620Mhz CPU and is based on Qualcomm Snapdragon processor(anyway snapdragon CPU utilizes Ati imageon graphics! )
On 2008-02-11 01:22:09, abinge05 wrote:
"It's all powered by a 520-MHz ARM11 processor running Windows Mobile 6. In short, this thing screams."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2258979,00.asp
A little birdy pointed me to the following link and its the ONLY logical explanation for all the features this X1 has.
PS: Courtesy of link goes to "bodeh6" of Howardforums.com site;
http://www.ericsson.com/erics[....]eleases/20080208-1189711.shtml
[Color=red]Ericsson announces one-chip HSPA solution for Open OS enabled mobile devices
February 8, 2008, 09:00 (CET)
Ericsson (NASDAQ:ERIC) today announced the U380 mobile platform delivering a true mobile Internet experience and empowering consumers with advanced multimedia features. The U380 is an integrated and verified one-chip HSPA platform, supporting all major Open Operating Systems on the market and the first product based on the recently announced Open OS collaboration with Texas Instruments (TI) (NYSE:TXN).
By integrating Ericsson's HSPA modem with TI's high performance OMAP3430 applications processor into a one-chip solution, the U380 is among the smallest and most powerful multimedia platforms on the market in this category.
With support for all major Open OSs, the U380 will provide mobile device manufacturers with a robust and flexible architecture for applications and services deployment, enabling easier delivery and management of services and content. This enables handset manufacturers and mobile operators to differentiate their products through rich, easy-to-use and customizable user interfaces. The extensive verification and IOT testing performed by Ericsson will also enable manufacturers to rapidly bring highly advanced mobile devices to the mass market while reducing risk and lowering development costs.
Robert Puskaric, head of Ericsson's mobile platforms business, says: "This is truly a next generation platform for the rapidly growing Open OS market. The combination of powerful multimedia performance and Open OS capabilities in an extremely small package makes the U380 platform hard to match."
Richard Kerslake, general manager for the TI-Ericsson business, TI's Wireless Terminals Business Unit, says "The combination of Texas Instruments' and Ericsson's key competences has really paid off. TI's OMAP3430 processing power, coupled with Ericsson's HSPA access technology in a pre-verified and tested platform supporting all major open operating systems will provide great opportunities for device manufacturers worldwide."
The U380 platform is expected to be commercially available in the first half of 2009.[/color]
Now the U380 Platform "may" be available in the first half of 2009 - but that is making it available to OTHER manufacturers; remember Ericsson makes platforms for many other providers ... including the U600 which will feature MIDP3.0 with the ability for Java Apps to startup upon a fresh bootup (MIDP3.0 is still being ratified, but also allows for multiple midlets to run on 1 VM just 1 ppl co-existing and EVEN sharing data amongst one another and ALSO for midlets to run without a GUI ... so one midlet can get network information and input it into a calendar running another midlet. S60 platform has some competition from SE's future feature phones - but THIS is for another thread.)
Posted by armani-ax
you guys treat PeterKay as if he/she is the god of esato lol
@ famous12
PeterKay still hasnt answered your question yet, and i dont think he/she will.. i mean its easy to play along, he/she hasnt answered a single question accordingly.. i know he/she has to keep his mouth shut but everything he/she has told us can be found by juz googling it lol
im juz saying we wont know if he/she can be trusted til the announcement of the Pxi in the NEXT 3 DAYS !!
[ This Message was edited by: armani-ax on 2008-02-11 05:15 ]
Posted by >500
On 2008-02-11 02:53:10, tonchy wrote:
On 2008-02-11 01:30:25, >500 wrote:
@amnesia
for some odd reason, WM doesnt support over 65k colours
Hmm, well, i had a couple imate jasjams, with wm 5, they were quite stable!
Though i am yet to try WM6!
Stop blaming windows mobile for the shortage in hardware specs our dear x1 has. windows mobile is capable of displaying more than 65k colours. it is probably too hardware demanding for the x1 to do it.
wtf, you feeling ok? Why you jumping down my throat?
I was under the impression WM didnt allow for/handle more more than 65k. Im happy for you to prove me wrong, that way i can give the right answer next time
I wasnt aware of the change in WM support!
Instead of jumping down my throat, how bout next time, you post me a link, stating that WM does indeed support more than 65k, and a reason as to why no WM phone has more than 65k colour screens?
@All
fingers crossed
change the black version so that it comes in 'all black', i dont like the black and silver mix (black front and silver keyboard) I want full black i tell ya, 'full black'!!!!!!!!!! 
_________________
May the
be with you!
http://www.modmymobile.net/forum/index.php
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2008-02-11 05:16 ]
Posted by armani-ax
ohh one more thing
once you go SONY ERICCSON you'll never go back.. TRUST ME !!
Posted by mervy
On 2008-02-11 06:13:23, armani-ax wrote:
ohh one more thing
once you go SONY ERICCSON you'll never go back.. TRUST ME !!
Yup....he's right!
Posted by BobaFett
On 2008-02-11 06:08:56, armani-ax wrote:
you guys treat PeterKay as if he/she is the god of esato lol
@ famous12
PeterKay still hasnt answered your question yet, and i dont think he/she will.. i mean its easy to play along, he/she hasnt answered a single question accordingly.. i know he/she has to keep his mouth shut but everything he/she has told us can be found by juz googling it lol
im juz saying we wont know if he/she can be trusted til the announcement of the Pxi in the NEXT 3 DAYS !!
[ This Message was edited by: armani-ax on 2008-02-11 05:15 ]
every comment is more then welcome here, aslong its respectful and not very personal... imo u are right from a certain point of view, but that doesnt mean u have the right to judge... he isnt a godness, more a respected member...
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2008-02-11 07:03:52, tonchy wrote:
@ Prom1
i created your thread
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=164768
Thanks Tonchy.
[ This Message was edited by: Prom1 on 2008-02-11 06:09 ]
Posted by Residentevil
Gimme, gimme, gimme - Now.
Posted by famous12
On 2008-02-11 06:18:33, BobaFett wrote:
On 2008-02-11 06:08:56, armani-ax wrote:
you guys treat PeterKay as if he/she is the god of esato lol
@ famous12
PeterKay still hasnt answered your question yet, and i dont think he/she will.. i mean its easy to play along, he/she hasnt answered a single question accordingly.. i know he/she has to keep his mouth shut but everything he/she has told us can be found by juz googling it lol
im juz saying we wont know if he/she can be trusted til the announcement of the Pxi in the NEXT 3 DAYS !!
[ This Message was edited by: armani-ax on 2008-02-11 05:15 ]
every comment is more then welcome here, aslong its respectful and not very personal... imo u are right from a certain point of view, but that doesnt mean u have the right to judge... he isnt a godness, more a respected member...
I know.I wonder why he is avoiding this simple question.Anyways he is playing his part
. I trust him though
Posted by tonchy
On 2008-02-11 06:11:11, >500 wrote:
On 2008-02-11 02:53:10, tonchy wrote:
On 2008-02-11 01:30:25, >500 wrote:
@amnesia
for some odd reason, WM doesnt support over 65k colours
Hmm, well, i had a couple imate jasjams, with wm 5, they were quite stable!
Though i am yet to try WM6!
Stop blaming windows mobile for the shortage in hardware specs our dear x1 has. windows mobile is capable of displaying more than 65k colours. it is probably too hardware demanding for the x1 to do it.
wtf, you feeling ok? Why you jumping down my throat?
I was under the impression WM didnt allow for/handle more more than 65k. Im happy for you to prove me wrong, that way i can give the right answer next time
I wasnt aware of the change in WM support!
Instead of jumping down my throat, how bout next time, you post me a link, stating that WM does indeed support more than 65k, and a reason as to why no WM phone has more than 65k colour screens?
@All
fingers crossed
change the black version so that it comes in 'all black', i dont like the black and silver mix (black front and silver keyboard) I want full black i tell ya, 'full black'!!!!!!!!!!
_________________
May the
be with you!
http://www.modmymobile.net/forum/index.php
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2008-02-11 05:16 ]
chill dude, sorry if i sounded to abrupt with my reply. that was not the intention. it is just that so many people were saying it without knowing and that was getting on my nerves.
here is the official microsof info on palette support of windows mobile it supports up to 32 bits:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa931973.aspx
here is an article written back in 2005 that better explains the reasons why many manufacturers don't go thru the trouble of making their WM devices capable of handling 18 bit (252k colors) as opose to 16 bit (65k colors), it states the difference is almost unnoticeable and not worth the hardware sacrifices (memory).
http://blogs.msdn.com/windows[....]archive/2005/09/07/462187.aspx
I would have expected at least 24 bit (16M colors) from what
calls "the ultimate media experiance" device. That would have been a smart move, coz frankly having a wvga with 16bit color is abit of a waste.
i also searched at PDADB.net for devices with the following search criteria: windows mobile 6 and 18 bit (252144 colors) here are the results:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=[....]753&id17=934&id18=722&id19=723
hope my post makes more sense to you now. cheers
Posted by BobaFett
good point actually... i am also wondering, why se cant or wont release 16m colour screens...
Posted by tonchy
@ Prom1
i created your thread
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=164768
now why don't you delete your post about LTE or somebody with rights does.
Posted by >500
@tonchy
well, now i know!
Posted by abinge05
On 2008-02-11 06:46:59, BobaFett wrote:
good point actually... i am also wondering, why se cant or wont release 16m colour screens...