Posted by Fanofmodi
http://www.engadget.com/2008/[....]ola-may-exit-handset-business/
Posted by goldenface
Although, they still have a lot to lose in the US it would be a sad thing for all.
Less choice isn't good for the consumer.
Posted by whizkidd
If not handsets what will they do? They're exiting their main field. Motorola is synonymous with Mobile Phones.Is this what too much competition does?
Posted by jcwhite_uk
Phones is only a part of their business. They are quite big in semiconductors too afaik
I think Moto's downfall was relying to heavily on the V3 RAZR. They kept it going for so long without developing anything as good to replace it.
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Posted by Fanofmodi
Any one thinks its possible ? I dont think so from no2 to 0
Posted by whizkidd
I am aware of he semi conductors part. What I meant was if you think motorola, the first thing that comes to your mind is the Mobilephone. Btw, this sounds a tad far fetched at this moment. But who knows..
Posted by NightBlade
But motorola has even more market share than SE!
Posted by gola
Ouch!
Posted by QVGA
On 2008-01-29 14:57:30, NightBlade wrote:
But motorola has even more market share than SE!
which isnt a lot to say
but they are going down and down year after year
Posted by DragonEye
On 2008-01-29 14:57:30, NightBlade wrote:
But motorola has even more market share than SE!
being profitable and marketshare don't always go hand in hand...
Posted by bart
if you say motorola the first thing that comes in mind is 2way radio, not cell phones.
In europe motorola has lost most of its poplairty, the V3 series is to old, their new phones aren't special appart from those expencive UIQ phones, and the F3 made many people angry.
I think motorola might quite providing phones to some parts of the world.
If they would stop it completly, it would open up the eyes of many americans, and many company's would battle to win the lost motorola fans/users.
Posted by *Jojo*
Americans should start embracing
handsets if Motorola will really QUIT the mobile-phone-market . . .
Posted by GUCCI.011
After those disappointing 2007 results im not realy suprised,although it would be sad to see them go. Moto seem to be one of the only manufacturers implementing the LINUX OS in to their phones, would have been interesting to see how the new Linux OS in Z6 would have done in newer Motos etc. . .
Moto realy have slowed down though, after the E398,V360 and V3 RAZR there was nothing amazing from them, they have only NOW put in a 3mp camera, and most if not all their phones don't have WiFi.
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Posted by whizkidd
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I guess that depends on which part of the world you are as well. Ask anyone here what a two way radio is and you'll get lots of blank faces. In the US for sure - its the two way radio.
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-01-29 16:02:28, DragonEye wrote:
On 2008-01-29 14:57:30, NightBlade wrote:
But motorola has even more market share than SE!
being profitable and marketshare don't always go hand in hand...
Yeah, but it's fairly proportional...
Posted by DragonEye
On 2008-01-29 16:58:31, NightBlade wrote:
On 2008-01-29 16:02:28, DragonEye wrote:
On 2008-01-29 14:57:30, NightBlade wrote:
But motorola has even more market share than SE!
being profitable and marketshare don't always go hand in hand...
Yeah, but it's fairly proportional...
if you are maintaining marketshare probably.. but when you are losing marketshare it means you are not selling any new porducts...your marketshare is based on old legacy products that don't bring in any income...
Posted by AbuBasim
Motorola would leave the non-smartphone market and focus where their business is good?
Motorola and Samsung steal Smartphone market from HTC?
Posted by Hobbs
Its that damn UI they stuck with all these years.A different UI in some of those models could have been another prospect altogether.
Posted by Miss UK
things may change as im sure there bringing out a 8MP phone later this year so I read somewhere in the other topics
btw they do need to make something abit different instead of staying with the same boring design!
Posted by Hobbs
I quite fancy the design of Motorola phones.Its the UI I've always hated.
Posted by RudioX
Motorola to Exit Cellphone Manufacturing!
Motorola cellphone industryAccording to Nomura International’s Richard Windsor, Motorola may be leaving the handset industry to concentrate on being and enterprise and government company. Moto announced a $388 million operating loss last year. According to Windsor, the problem is non-hardware but the software and platform on which Motorola phones operate.
It’s also unlikely a Chinese outfit will buy out Motorola’s handset division as no one has an idea how to bring it up to the time when Moto RAZR ruled.
Posted by RoKeC
didn't SE wanted to buy Motorola last year or 2 years back?
i think there were some rummores.
Posted by c96sthl
This is what extracted from Motorola homepage. The way they explaining didn't mean they want to exit...they are looking into ways like spin it off or maybe merge it with someone.... (moto samsung? moto LG? moto ???? just kidding since I donno what's the detail plan)
It is sad to see the pioneer of mobile phone business ends up this way but hey i guess this is the reality of mobile phone business....Ericsson gone thru it by ends up partner with Sony. Of course the shadow of the failure of Benq siemens still haunt us ...BUT in that case...siemens actually sold everything off and allow Benq to use the name Siemens which is totally different scenario compare to SE which suceed.
So I will say all the best to Moto....hope we still see the M logo around on mobile phone instead of just on cell station or walkie talkie.
SCHAUMBURG, Ill., – January 31, 2008 – Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT) today announced it is exploring the structural and strategic realignment of its businesses to better equip its Mobile Devices business to recapture global market leadership and to enhance shareholder value. The company’s alternatives may include the separation of Mobile Devices from its other businesses in order to permit each business to grow and better serve its customers.
“All of our businesses have exceptional people, products and intellectual property and the ability to achieve category leadership in their markets,” said Greg Brown, President and Chief Executive Officer. “We are exploring ways in which our Mobile Devices Business can accelerate its recovery and retain and attract talent while enabling our shareholders to realize the value of this great franchise.”
The company does not intend to discuss developments with respect to the exploration of strategic alternatives unless or until its Board of Directors has approved a definitive transaction or the process is otherwise complete. There can be no assurance that any transaction will occur or, if one is undertaken, its terms or timing.
Posted by BobaFett
http://www.unwiredview.com/20[....]dumping-mobile-phone-division/
Posted by lhaizza
Motorola SE combination, this would be great
Posted by BobaFett
and moto combination would have been more interesting imo...
Posted by belialwafu
style of moto and function of
cool!
Posted by Brightspark
On 2008-01-30 21:38:56, HOBBS wrote:
I quite fancy the design of Motorola phones.Its the UI I've always hated.
the UI that you're referring to is called synergy. you do know that that platform is only used in 1 or 2 of their phones now don't you? obviously not. you should try the LJ platform - even many SE fans prefer it oiver A100/A200.
Posted by razec
On 2008-02-02 02:47:51, Brightspark wrote:
On 2008-01-30 21:38:56, HOBBS wrote:
I quite fancy the design of Motorola phones.Its the UI I've always hated.
the UI that you're referring to is called synergy. you do know that that platform is only used in 1 or 2 of their phones now don't you? obviously not. you should try the LJ platform - even many SE fans prefer it oiver A100/A200.
i felt bored of the LJ UI, i prefer S40 5th and A200 the most when it comes to User Experience
Posted by kenoby
How many ppl here really used Moto phone except V3?
Talking about GUI, ones I have used were powered with Linux and surprisingly good, stable and reliable, you could even find various blends of fw, one with better cam driver, one a bit overclocked, one stripped for more speed, etc... And all of them mostly done by Chinese people, with few respected exceptions, but also them building on existing Chinese versions. I have never liked Motorola, until I faced A1200. Then I discovered other Linux OS Motos and found so many good places and people with lots of experience in coding and programming.
I would be really sad if Moto goes down. They do produce good mobiles, but most are without personality. Here in China they did some good moves but now they're stagnating. Except they released V8, nothing much happened in past year. And first thought about Moto is a two way radio. Somewhat Police and Army
Posted by Janbobejan
Let's not forget, Motorola was the company which had around 23% market share while Nokia had 29% a few years ago (2-3).Nokia realized Moto is a treath to their leadership and dealt with them accordingly ! Now Nokia has 40% and Moto has about 40-29
Lets hope that other companies don't venture too close to Nokia's empire otherwise they may go Moto's way I remember the time SE was created - everyone said Nokia will be 'dethroned' as market leader within a few years. Now we have 2008 and . . . Actually it might be good this way. If SE remains below 10% Nokia won't bother, but samsung is another story. GO SAMSUNG GO
Posted by carkitter
On 2008-02-03 17:10:44, Janbobejan wrote:
If SE remains below 10% Nokia won't bother...
But you forget, SE's average selling price is 1.5 times that of Nokia, therefore SE need less sales to make the similar profits. It's all about the money after all.
Most people agree Moto's problems are because of Moto's decisions not Nokia's. That's probably why the changed CEO.
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Posted by amawanqa
On 2008-02-03 17:10:44, Janbobejan wrote:
Nokia realized Moto is a treath to their leadership and dealt with them accordingly ! Now Nokia has 40% and Moto has about 40-29
Lets hope that other companies don't venture too close to Nokia's empire otherwise they may go Moto's way
@ Mario,
Exactly how many Nokia shares do you have?
Posted by Janbobejan
I have mentioned already in your 'local tread', I have sold all of them last month and made a nice profit in less then a year. The bastards made lot's of money out of me before that. Is nice to have 'turned the table' for a change
I can't believe you've missed that post of mine - judging by the nr of hours/day you spend in here
And yes, I believe the Moto boss pretty much runned out of options because of stiff competition from the 'Bastards', and I also believe, while SE, Alcatel, LG etc etc are too small to cause a concern, Samsung is 'another story'. Actually is all what stands between the 'Bastards' and total marked domination ala Microsoft
GO Samsung GO
Posted by bart
@Janbobejan: you shouldn't praise 1 of the most "evil" brands in the world here. Keep in mind that you live in a country where people die everyday for a small price. Go praise sucksum on mobile review
Posted by Janbobejan
Huh, @Bart, does it sound to you like I am praising the BASTARDS ??? Which words do (even remotely) imply praise - I shall remove them at once
. And yeah, unfortunately you are right about 'my country'
GO SAMSUNG GO
Posted by BobaFett
Motorola CEO Greg Brown takes personal control of phone division
"The drama at Motorola just keeps coming -- apparently CEO Greg Brown has now taken direct personal control of the mobile phone division in an effort to turn it around. Of course, this move -- announced in an internal email leaked to Reuters -- comes in the wake of buyout rumors and Motorola's own admission that it might spin the handset unit off. We're not certain what steps Greg plans to take now that's he holding the reins, but we might know some people who might have some ideas."
http://www.engadgetmobile.com[....]nal-control-of-phone-division/
Posted by BobaFett
Samsung not eyeing Motorola mobile ops
"Samsung Electronics Co. remains optimistic about its handset sales business in 2008 and is not interested in Motorola's mobile unit, a top Samsung executive said Tuesday.
Choi Gee-sung, president of Samsung's telecommunications division, said during an interview with CNBC that Samsung was not interested in acquiring Motorola's handset business because the South Korean company's handset division already has a strong presence in the United States.
"Our market share in the States represents around 20 percent to 25 percent," Choi said. "We don't need to consider acquisition of any others."
Choi also said the company expects strong handset sales in 2008 despite growing fears of an economic slowdown.
Consumers in emerging markets like the Middle East and Eastern Europe, as well as in Korea, China and India, have not been as worried about a recession as people in the U.S. and developed European markets, he said."
http://www.slashphone.com/70/9335.html
Posted by varu23
eh...nike said the same thing some years ago,that they are going to stop making shoes and focus only on making ads,commercials and stuff...that offcorce didn't happen...soo i think moto will get over this
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Posted by amawanqa
On 2008-02-05 02:30:05, Janbobejan wrote:
I can't believe you've missed that post of mine - judging by the nr of hours/day you spend in here
Nah Mario; like most of your phone-related posts, I just didn't bother paying much attention to it.
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Posted by BobaFett
http://www.engadgetmobile.com[....]ff-yet-another-couple-hundred/
Posted by masseur
latest news from Reuters
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Motorola Inc said on Wednesday it would split into two publicly traded entities to separate its loss-making handset division from its other businesses, sending its shares up more than 10 percent.
Posted by BobaFett
and here the official one
Motorola Commences Process to Create Two Independent, Industry-Leading Companies
http://www.motorola.com/media[....]9430_9359_23&pageLocaleId=2026
Posted by deepsme
Here we go again..
India’s Videocon “likely” to buy Motorola’s handset division..