Posted by niverin
On 2008-02-12 13:31:42, number1 wrote:
the betas are there to test compression (file sizes without crashing).
also i can read/mod any .dat file,
cam_fw_upgrade.dat is very it's like a unfinished camdriver missing loads of properties,
every seq_set_prop_ is blank but it has a power on sequence, buffer sizes sup_properties, and macros, the rest of it looks like code to upgrade a previous camdriver or something it's very very werid i've never seen it before.
camdriver01 still exits in some situations but I think it is not as often as with the 4.7 driver. I will also try camdriver02 and write here.
Posted by jigonx
night photos sample with Number1 4.75 camdriver01
bye-bye noise..
Posted by jigonx
On 2008-02-12 12:05:26, nebraska wrote:
here is my video test of the 4.75 driver (version #)
I made videos in good climatic conditions:
outdoor with much sun face to me (13 fps...), bad quality, strange:
Don't know why there is such a difference between quality, maybe the sun face to the cam in first case.
that was strange, coz i made video recording in bright sunlight too and i can get more frame rate than you..the sun also face to the cam too.
this is my first sample --> daylight, focus = infinity
minimum = 10 fps
maximum = 22,78 fps
average = 20,98 fps
download here
2nd sample --> daylight, focus = macro
minimum = 10 fps
maximum = 27,78 fps
average = 20,98 fps
download here
i'm using K770 R8BA + Number1 4.75 camdriver01
Posted by k770
Jigonx have you used photoshop to edit your photos ?Because the exif is a bit strange.
# Camera Make = Sony Ericsson
# Camera Model = K770i
# Picture Orientation = normal (1)
# X-Resolution = 72/1 = 72
# Y-Resolution = 72/1 = 72
# X/Y-Resolution Unit = inch (2)
# Software/Firmware Version = Adobe Photoshop 7.0
# Last Modified Date/Time = 2008:02:13 11:56:30
# Y/Cb/Cr Positioning (Subsampling) = co-sited / datum point (2)
Posted by jigonx
yes, but only for resizing the picture to 800x600. i'm not applying any modification on image quality.
Posted by feek81
2 pics with the 4.75 no1 driver:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/448/dsc00464wk4.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6293/dsc00469pt9.jpg
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[ This Message was edited by: feek81 on 2008-02-13 10:44 ]
Posted by nebraska
I used version2 of the camdriver01... According to everybody here version1 seems to give better results (videos, nightshots,..).
So I will test version1
Posted by feek81
1 pic with the 4.75 no2 driver:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5273/dsc00471qg5.jpg
Posted by number1
most important do any of the betas crash????.
Posted by nebraska
On 2008-02-13 11:53:54, feek81 wrote:
1 pic with the 4.75 no2 driver:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5273/dsc00471qg5.jpg
little bit noisy?
Posted by feek81
Driver 1 crashed once, driver 2 didn't crash YET... I'll test some more.
Posted by nebraska
On 2008-02-13 11:54:18, number1 wrote:
most important do any of the betas crash????.
vers2 doesn't seem to crash
Posted by niverin
On 2008-02-13 11:54:18, number1 wrote:
most important do any of the betas crash????.
camdriver01 crashes always when shooting bad comprimable scenes (structures as grass, wall etc).
I will try 02 today or tommorrow.
On 2008-02-13 12:04:29, nebraska wrote:
On 2008-02-13 11:53:54, feek81 wrote:
1 pic with the 4.75 no2 driver:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5273/dsc00471qg5.jpg
little bit noisy?
I very appreciate this "noise" because it preserves much more details in photos than if destructive noise reduction is applied and photos then also looks more "natural" for me. This is important advantage for me against K800i which I used to have too.
See grass photo with noise reduction applied
taken with N95 (extreme example)
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]to/photo/photo/08042007063.jpg
k800i
http://madhyena.nilpo.com/Stuffs/landscape.jpg
And a grass with K770i (Number1 4.7 camdriver)
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1193/dsc00615kd7.jpg
ehm, and i-mobile 902
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1255/img01110yh6.jpg
NUMBER1, it is possible to add contrast to photos? They are very better when I use auto contrast in some graphic editor...
[ This Message was edited by: niverin on 2008-02-13 12:21 ]
Posted by number1
yes i can add contrast but i'm sure what effect it will have on the k800 it gives real colours but causes overexposure, the k800i problem isn't anything to do with noise reduction it's that the bilinear filter is on all the time.
Posted by nebraska
wow k800 make beautifull photos
Posted by niverin
On 2008-02-13 13:55:16, number1 wrote:
yes i can add contrast but i'm sure what effect it will have on the k800 it gives real colours but causes overexposure, the k800i problem isn't anything to do with noise reduction it's that the bilinear filter is on all the time.
That is interesting for me - I thought it is a noise reduction because it is more noticeable in worse light conditions. Can you please tell me what is this "bilinear filter" for?
This is photo from K770i taken with your camdriver01 (4.75)
And this is the same photo with auto contrast
Maybe I can try to set some -EV
[ This Message was edited by: niverin on 2008-02-13 13:18 ]
Posted by nebraska
autocontrast is cool
Posted by momoki
On 2008-02-13 14:21:20, nebraska wrote:
autocontrast is cool
yeah...
Posted by feek81
Is autocontrast used in the driver? or with a program?? Tnx!
Posted by niverin
On 2008-02-13 16:57:24, feek81 wrote:
Is autocontrast used in the driver? or with a program?? Tnx!
I wish this could be done via driver
I used XnView software.
Posted by number1
new beta 4.75
added more contrast
video 22-26fps
new compression
http://www.mediafire.com/?cmdkzuynzzt
Xilisoft Video Converter gives the most accurate video fps readings.
Posted by jigonx
camdriver01 and camdriver02 always crash when taking picture with document mode at very close distance (10-15 cm) where the object is very bright.. e.g. taking photo of picture on LCD monitor.
Posted by nebraska
On 2008-02-13 18:03:03, jigonx wrote:
camdriver01 and camdriver02 always crash when taking picture with document mode at very close distance (10-15 cm) where the object is very bright.. e.g. taking photo of picture on LCD monitor.
I made a test just after reading your post, no crash with mine (camrdiver02) I took many pics of my pc lcd screen, document mode, 10cm from the screen
Posted by nebraska
lcd test, mode doc
http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00764qj4.jpg
Posted by nebraska
Number1:
Test of your new beta driver (increasing contrast)
- before (with 4.75 camdriver02)
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00765jh8.jpg
-after (new 4.75 beta driver)
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00769op0.jpg
Do you see any difference between the 2 pics? me no... the contrast of the apple seems to be the same
Posted by nebraska
contrast is even better before..
can anyone confirm?
Posted by interloper
yup, i think the 1st one is better, too
Posted by jigonx
hmm..strange, mine always crash until now. or may be it depends on fimware version? i'm using K770 with R8BA024.
Posted by nebraska
On 2008-02-13 19:06:52, jigonx wrote:
hmm..strange, mine always crash until now. or may be it depends on fimware version? i'm using K770 with R8BA024.
mmmm maybe
I have the fw R7AA024
Posted by niverin
This new driver does not crash yet! But I will try to take some photos of nature in daylight.
For now, I post 2 indoor photos in full-size:
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9936/dsc00854ng7.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/216/dsc00846fz2.jpg
Posted by jigonx
i've tried your new beta too.. n i think it has more noise compared with camdriver01.
camdriver01 -- indoor, low light
new beta 4.75 -- indoor low light
i tried with my best steady hand for both picture
actual size (3Mpx) here
sample video with new beta here
how do u think..?
Posted by nebraska
I agree with that, I made other tests to compare, there is more noise.
jigonx __ I like your videos of your moving phone, they make me laugh
Posted by nebraska
On 2008-02-13 19:20:22, niverin wrote:
This new driver does not crash yet! But I will try to take some photos of nature in daylight.
For now, I post 2 indoor photos in full-size:
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9936/dsc00854ng7.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/216/dsc00846fz2.jpg
good photos
Which version of the camdriver did you use?
Posted by niverin
The last from Number1, but photos are not always as good as these. I am interested in daylight photos with more contrast that should this camdriver produce. I will try in morning and post some samples.
[ This Message was edited by: niverin on 2008-02-13 21:32 ]
Posted by jigonx
another sample, daylight
camdriver01 4.75
New beta 4.75
i lamost can't see the difference.. but if we look closer, i think the white colour of the wall with new beta is brighter than with camdriver01.
outdoor picture with new beta
Posted by number1
i increased the contrast from 00 to 01 only very small change, the contrast increase is what causes all the noise i can increase it more, also most important does my new beta crash and what file sizes to you get?????.
Posted by nebraska
new beta doesn't seem to crash...
file size is about 50% bigger. For ex if you take my pics of the apple above, before we have 408ko and after we have 679ko (I precise that I shoot in 1Mp)
Posted by brazuka
What is the maximum rate of jpeg compression buffer of k770, can may have over 1000kb photos in high resolution?
[ This Message was edited by: brazuka on 2008-02-14 14:59 ]
Posted by niverin
Hi Number1,
thanks for working on your camdriver!
I have 3 notices:
1) Your last camdriver hasn't crashed yet.
2) I didn't noticed any visible changes in contrast.
3) I really doesn't like this strange thing - sometimes the phone applies some smashing filter (maybe "your" bilinear filter?) to photo and then the output looks like from N93 (something like "watercolour effect").
I believe you don't like this post-processing too, so if you could be able to turn it completely off, I would be very thankful!
These photos are taken with your newest camdriver.
Crops 1:1
Very OK
OMG!
[ This Message was edited by: niverin on 2008-02-14 14:52 ]
Posted by brazuka
How many frames per second that the video recording in the high-resolution k770? someone knows?
Posted by number1
On 2008-02-14 15:49:20, niverin wrote:
Hi Number1,
thanks for working on your camdriver!
I have 3 notices:
1) Your last camdriver hasn't crashed yet.
2) I didn't noticed any visible changes in contrast.
3) I really doesn't like this strange thing - sometimes the phone applies some smashing filter (maybe "your" bilinear filter?) to photo and then the output looks like from N93 (something like "watercolour effect").
I believe you don't like this post-processing too, so if you could be able to turn it completely off, I would be very thankful!
These photos are taken with your newest camdriver.
Crops 1:1
i'm pretty sure this driver doesn't have a biliner filter it's very different from the k800i driver the biliner filter is meant for use with digital zoom since you don't really have any digital zoom, that photo above just looks like the autofocus messing about .the path on the second photo is alot clearer than the path in the first photo, but the bush on the first photo is alot clearer than the bush on the second photo. also what file sizes are both the full photos???.
Posted by niverin
On 2008-02-14 16:05:24, number1 wrote:
On 2008-02-14 15:49:20, niverin wrote:
Hi Number1,
thanks for working on your camdriver!
I have 3 notices:
1) Your last camdriver hasn't crashed yet.
2) I didn't noticed any visible changes in contrast.
3) I really doesn't like this strange thing - sometimes the phone applies some smashing filter (maybe "your" bilinear filter?) to photo and then the output looks like from N93 (something like "watercolour effect").
I believe you don't like this post-processing too, so if you could be able to turn it completely off, I would be very thankful!
These photos are taken with your newest camdriver.
Crops 1:1
i'm pretty sure this driver doesn't have a biliner filter it's very different from the k800i driver the biliner filter is meant for use with digital zoom since you don't really have any digital zoom, that photo above just looks like the autofocus messing about .the path on the second photo is alot clearer than the path in the first photo, but the bush on the first photo is alot clearer than the bush on the second photo. also what file sizes are both the full photos???.
The first is 890kB, the second 802kB, but these photos are not absolutely identical.
I took both with the same camera settings and with infinity focus.
So is this a noise reduction?
Do you agree with me that it is an unwanted effect?
Thanks.
[ This Message was edited by: niverin on 2008-02-14 15:44 ]
Posted by number1
i'm pretty sure the k770i & t650 don't have this noise reduction it looks like you moved when taking the picture and blurred it a bit or the noise reduction thing has been applyed in the new firmware it's not in the driver, in the driver there is nothing to do with noise reduction.
Posted by jigonx
number1, i think your new_update 4.75 is very good.
look at this picture, i still can see the tiny white dot at the blue raincoat. good detail..
indoor low light at night
croped from actual size
using macro
Posted by jigonx
oh yes, i always taking pic with full size (3Mpx) and but there is no big difference in file size between your new_update and previous camdriver.
Posted by nebraska
wanna rectify, the new beta camdrv crashes some times when taking photos outdoor in the night (about 1 time/4).
Does someone noticed that?
Posted by nebraska
picture taken at night, in movement, with new beta camdrv (before it crashes)
Posted by nebraska
the biggest inconvenient with this phone is that if you move a little little little little little little little bit your hand while taking a pic, the photo is blurry... they should have put a stabilizator inside
Posted by nebraska
On 2008-02-14 15:55:26, brazuka wrote:
How many frames per second that the video recording in the high-resolution k770? someone knows?
I think 27,77fps is the max with new camdrv?
Posted by momoki
using the newest 4.75 beta..wit macro
http://i112.photobucket.com/a[....]199/chunlianghere/b6308871.jpg
original size : 890kb
[ This Message was edited by: momoki on 2008-02-15 09:58 ]